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ftf:

--- Quote from: kahaneloyalist on September 02, 2007, 04:03:18 PM ---I will only say this, when we come to power in Israel missionaries will be beheaded, and I am not being figurative.

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You would respond to words with death?

If you don't agree with what someone is saying, debate with them, if they are wrong prove it to them, if you would kill someone for talking about their beliefs, you are as bad as the muslims. My grandfather used to be a missionary, not in Israel, but he was a missionary, you have just told me you would aspire to murder my grandfather, all I can say is that I will pray that you cease to be the evil person that you appear to be.

OdKahaneChai:

--- Quote from: ftf on September 02, 2007, 04:18:54 PM ---
--- Quote from: kahaneloyalist on September 02, 2007, 04:03:18 PM ---I will only say this, when we come to power in Israel missionaries will be beheaded, and I am not being figurative.

--- End quote ---
You would respond to words with death?

If you don't agree with what someone is saying, debate with them, if they are wrong prove it to them, if you would kill someone for talking about their beliefs, you are as bad as the muslims. My grandfather used to be a missionary, not in Israel, but he was a missionary, you have just told me you would aspire to murder my grandfather, all I can say is that I will pray that you cease to be the evil person that you appear to be.

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As long as he's not missionizing (and no, I don't care if that's not a word) to Jews I could care less.  But missionaries in Israel, who do you think they're missionizing to?  And yes, they do deserve to die.

ftf:

--- Quote from: OdKahaneChai on September 02, 2007, 04:35:57 PM ---
--- Quote from: ftf on September 02, 2007, 04:18:54 PM ---
--- Quote from: kahaneloyalist on September 02, 2007, 04:03:18 PM ---I will only say this, when we come to power in Israel missionaries will be beheaded, and I am not being figurative.

--- End quote ---
You would respond to words with death?

If you don't agree with what someone is saying, debate with them, if they are wrong prove it to them, if you would kill someone for talking about their beliefs, you are as bad as the muslims. My grandfather used to be a missionary, not in Israel, but he was a missionary, you have just told me you would aspire to murder my grandfather, all I can say is that I will pray that you cease to be the evil person that you appear to be.

--- End quote ---
As long as he's not missionizing (and no, I don't care if that's not a word) to Jews I could care less.  But missionaries in Israel, who do you think they're missionizing to?  And yes, they do deserve to die.

--- End quote ---
Tell me, why do they deserve to die? If they are wrong in what they are saying prove them wrong and they will stop saying it, the idea of executing them seams to suggest that you are afraid of what they are saying.

OdKahaneChai:

--- Quote from: ftf on September 02, 2007, 04:39:35 PM ---
--- Quote from: OdKahaneChai on September 02, 2007, 04:35:57 PM ---
--- Quote from: ftf on September 02, 2007, 04:18:54 PM ---
--- Quote from: kahaneloyalist on September 02, 2007, 04:03:18 PM ---I will only say this, when we come to power in Israel missionaries will be beheaded, and I am not being figurative.

--- End quote ---
You would respond to words with death?

If you don't agree with what someone is saying, debate with them, if they are wrong prove it to them, if you would kill someone for talking about their beliefs, you are as bad as the muslims. My grandfather used to be a missionary, not in Israel, but he was a missionary, you have just told me you would aspire to murder my grandfather, all I can say is that I will pray that you cease to be the evil person that you appear to be.

--- End quote ---
As long as he's not missionizing (and no, I don't care if that's not a word) to Jews I could care less.  But missionaries in Israel, who do you think they're missionizing to?  And yes, they do deserve to die.

--- End quote ---
Tell me, why do they deserve to die? If they are wrong in what they are saying prove them wrong and they will stop saying it, the idea of executing them seams to suggest that you are afraid of what they are saying.

--- End quote ---
They're attempting (and often succeeding) to murder Jews spiritually.  Death is a reasonable punishment for murder, is it not?

ftf:
DanBenNoah: No christian will ever even suggest that any God exists but Hashem.

OdKahaneChai: If becoming a christian is spiritual death, it would mean that I am spiritually dead, last I checked I was still alive, well, happy, and in possession of a good relationship with God.

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