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Joe Schmo:
Goodbye.

OdKahaneChai:

--- Quote from: newman on August 30, 2007, 07:17:05 PM ---See if you can guess what I'm being now:

I'm staring at the empty space in the middle of the living room and I'm fully expecting something to be created out of absolutely nothing without any divine help.


That's right!...................I'm being an atheist. ;D

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There's a great story about a Rabbi in Spain in the 1200's and his neighbor, Don Jose, who was an atheist:  So one day Don Jose says to the Rabbi "Why do you Jews believe G-d created the world?  I think it happened by itself."  And so they're arguing about the subject for a while - and then Don Jose is called away by his servant.  While his neighbor is gone the Rabbi paints a picture of a beautiful landscape with mountains, trees, etc, etc.  And then when Don Jose came back he spilled some ink in the corner and then exclaimed "Look!  I spilled some ink on this easel and this drawing appeared!"  Don Jose of course says "That's impossible.  This drawing must have had some sort of master creator."  And then the Rabbi said "Ah Ha!  And this is ever so much more true with the entire world."

newman:

--- Quote from: OdKahaneChai on August 30, 2007, 07:49:43 PM ---
--- Quote from: newman on August 30, 2007, 07:17:05 PM ---See if you can guess what I'm being now:

I'm staring at the empty space in the middle of the living room and I'm fully expecting something to be created out of absolutely nothing without any divine help.


That's right!...................I'm being an atheist. ;D

--- End quote ---
There's a great story about a Rabbi in Spain in the 1200's and his neighbor, Don Jose, who was an atheist:  So one day Don Jose says to the Rabbi "Why do you Jews believe G-d created the world?  I think it happened by itself."  And so they're arguing about the subject for a while - and then Don Jose is called away by his servant.  While his neighbor is gone the Rabbi paints a picture of a beautiful landscape with mountains, trees, etc, etc.  And then when Don Jose came back he spilled some ink in the corner and then exclaimed "Look!  I spilled some ink on this easel and this drawing appeared!"  Don Jose of course says "That's impossible.  This drawing must have had some sort of master creator."  And then the Rabbi said "Ah Ha!  And this is ever so much more true with the entire world."

--- End quote ---

I like the analogy of dumping a tip truck-load of sheet metal, paint, wires, vinyl, screws, bolts and rubber over the side of the Grand Canyon and guessing the odds of a fully assembled Buick landing at the bottom.

Shlomo:
lol

HiWarp:

--- Quote from: newman on August 30, 2007, 07:56:49 PM ---
--- Quote from: OdKahaneChai on August 30, 2007, 07:49:43 PM ---
--- Quote from: newman on August 30, 2007, 07:17:05 PM ---See if you can guess what I'm being now:

I'm staring at the empty space in the middle of the living room and I'm fully expecting something to be created out of absolutely nothing without any divine help.


That's right!...................I'm being an atheist. ;D

--- End quote ---
There's a great story about a Rabbi in Spain in the 1200's and his neighbor, Don Jose, who was an atheist:  So one day Don Jose says to the Rabbi "Why do you Jews believe G-d created the world?  I think it happened by itself."  And so they're arguing about the subject for a while - and then Don Jose is called away by his servant.  While his neighbor is gone the Rabbi paints a picture of a beautiful landscape with mountains, trees, etc, etc.  And then when Don Jose came back he spilled some ink in the corner and then exclaimed "Look!  I spilled some ink on this easel and this drawing appeared!"  Don Jose of course says "That's impossible.  This drawing must have had some sort of master creator."  And then the Rabbi said "Ah Ha!  And this is ever so much more true with the entire world."

--- End quote ---

I like the analogy of dumping a tip truck-load of sheet metal, paint, wires, vinyl, screws, bolts and rubber over the side of the Grand Canyon and guessing the odds of a fully assembled Buick landing at the bottom.

--- End quote ---
But the atheist won't argue that a fully assembled Buick will land at the bottom.  He will say that all the parts will land at the bottom just as they are dropped.  After millions of years sitting at the bottom of the Grand Canyon, a fully assembled Buick will appear.  Of course, he won't be able to answer where the original parts came from.

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