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Offline cjd

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Re: It ain't over yet - Cruz part 2?
« Reply #50 on: July 16, 2016, 06:29:42 PM »
If this was a candidate that JTF liked, then you guys would be up in arms if someone was suggesting ignoring the votes of the people.  Let's say Cruz was the presumptive nominee and there was a movement to get the delegates not to vote for Cruz because he was too extreme of a conservative or something along those lines. You would be really upset if someone was trying to do this.
This was the straw that broke the so called camels back for me with Cruz... He was playing Texas politics much like LBJ did over 50 years ago... He looks like a clone of LBJ and Lady Bird... A bit too much like Lady Bird for my likens... All well and fine but how was he going ever going to repay the delegates for their support for his second vote shenanigans and more over how was he ever going to get the people to vote for him in the generals... Despite all the positioning Cruz showed himself as willing to deal with the entrenched do nothing establishment... I'll go with Trump... So far he has run a good campaign and his choice of Pence is a good indicator he wants some conservative values to be in place... With Hillary we have no such hopes and more than likely things are only going to go further down hill from here. 
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Re: It ain't over yet - Cruz part 2?
« Reply #51 on: July 17, 2016, 10:10:05 AM »
After reading the following article one thing that comes to mind is : assuming Donald Trump will emerge as the Republican Nominee,  it will be interesting to see if he gets the usual bounce that a candidate gets following a convention. 


http://www.redstate.com/sweetie15/2016/07/17/never-trump-delegates-plan-convention-chaos/

“Never Trump” Delegates Plan Convention Chaos

Posted at 9:00 am on July 17, 2016 by Susan Wright

 

The anti-Trump delegates may have been tamped down last week in their bid to allow delegates to vote their conscience, but that doesn’t mean they’re giving up.

Good.

For his months of whining about the “GOP establishment” and their alleged vendetta against him, Trump and his people worked just fine with the establishment, in order to make sure dissenting voices had nowhere to go. They did this, then the Trump team and GOP Chairman Reince Priebus took a victory lap together.








 
 
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This victory didn’t come clean, however. There were reports of threats against anti-Trump delegates and even their families. These were thug tactics that give a disturbing glimpse into what a Trump administration would look like, and are all the more reason to oppose his candidacy, no matter who his VP is.

The Hill reported on the next move for the “Never Trump” group at the convention.


A group of delegates opposed to their party's presumptive nominee is plotting a variety of ways to upend the convention as the nation's focus turns to Cleveland on Monday.

One Louisiana delegate told the Post that some are preparing to bog down the convention with procedural maneuvers.

Others hope to force a roll call vote, a move that would drag out proceedings and give a spotlight to any delegates hoping to embarrass Trump by voting against him while the cameras are rolling.

Several "minority reports," which detail proposals that were rejected by committees, are reportedly in the works.

Will this keep Trump from securing the nomination? It’s highly unlikely, but that being said, what it will do is crack this façade of a unified party. Trump will emerge as the nominee, but he will be nominee with a dark cloud hanging over his head.

What’s more, Reince Priebus will have been exposed for the corrupt and despicable coward he is.


"To sound like Donald Trump – they rigged it," said Kendal Unruh, a delegate who has been a leader of the "Never Trump" movement within the convention. "The very thing they scream about is the very thing they did. I want to make this point extraordinarily clear: What a bunch of liars they revealed themselves to be."

They are liars. They are corrupt. They are the antithesis of everything the conservative movement embodies.

And they need to be dismissed.
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