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Italians and Other Mediterranean Racial Groups
EagleEye:
Anthropology is one of my hobbies. Here are some good websites.
http://racialreality.110mb.com/index.html
http://www.biodiversityforum.com/index.php
Ashkenazis are close to Sephardics, but different enough that they are two separate ethnicities. Khazar theory is bs though. Whatever khazars converted have been absorbed. Genetic testing disproves it.
EagleEye:
--- Quote from: Yacov Menashe Ben Rachamim on September 08, 2007, 11:00:29 PM ---
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--- Quote from: Yacov Menashe Ben Rachamim on September 08, 2007, 10:49:38 PM ---Ashkenazic Jews are also Mediterranean. Saying otherwise is racist and supports Arab Muslim Nazi claims of Ashkenazim of not being real Jews but rather "Khazars".
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That's not what I'm saying. I'm saying ashkenazi Jews are fairly similar to kurds and armenians, which makes them armenoid. Aremenoids are partially mediterranean.
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well according to nordic theory (I'm not necessarily a
So what are Persians and white Indians?
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I hate to use this term, but Persians and Indians were the original "aryans." The Germans liked to claim them as being German-like, however, I believe it is actually the slavs who most resemble the Indians. Hitler was wrong. Don't quote me on that though. Being south Asian, I would guess Persians, originally, were similar to Indians. Then they mixed with mongols.
Hail Columbia:
--- Quote from: Yacov Menashe Ben Rachamim on September 08, 2007, 10:31:34 PM ---What is the racial makeup of The Swiss? Specifically, can you break down the racial makeup of the French-speaking region, the German-speaking region, and the French-speaking region?
Would you call the Italian-speaking ones Italian?
BTW, I added to your question to Chaim something about Italian-speaking Swiss and if he thaught of them like he does Italians in Italy.
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The traditional ethnic composition of the territories of modern Switzerland includes the following components
* speakers of Swiss German, i.e. Alemannic German, historically amalgamated from the Gallo-Roman population and the Alemanni, including subgroups such as the Walser. "Swiss" from the 16th to 18th centuries referred to this group exclusively, and only with the expansion of the Swiss confederacy following the Congress of Vienna was the term applied to non-Alemannic territories. Closely related German-speaking peoples are the Alsatians, the Germans (especially the Swabians) and the Austrians (especially the Vorarlbergians).
* the Romands, traditionally speaking Franco-Provençal dialects, today largely assimilated to the standard French language (Swiss French), amalgamated from the Gallo-Roman population and Burgundians (the historical Upper Burgundy). They are closely related to the French (especially those of Franche-Comte).
* the Ticinesi, traditionally speakers of Lombardic dialects (Ticinese) today mostly assimilated to the standard Italian language, amalgamated from Raetians and Lombards. They are closely related to the Italians (especially Lombardians and Piedmontese).
* The Rumantsch, speakers of the Rumantsch language, settling in parts of the Grisons, historically of Raetic stock.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swiss_%28people%29
Ehud:
--- Quote from: EagleEye on September 08, 2007, 11:02:41 PM ---Anthropology is one of my hobbies. Here are some good websites.
http://racialreality.110mb.com/index.html
http://www.biodiversityforum.com/index.php
Ashkenazis are close to Sephardics, but different enough that they are two separate ethnicities. Khazar theory is bs though. Whatever khazars converted have been absorbed. Genetic testing disproves it.
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Yeah, actually EagleEye is pretty much on the ball here, at least according to all of the genetic studies I've seen. Ashkenazi Jews are racially more related to some other groups than to Sephardic Jews and the same is true for the Sepharadim. But they are much closer to each other than Ashkenazi Jews are related to Germans or Dutch, for example. There is no Jewish "race" but there are Jewish "ethnicities" with Jewish blood (however much) connecting all of the Jewish "ethnicities" together, excepting Ethiopian Jews.
EagleEye:
Correct, we are on the same page.
Armenoids are similar to Meds, they are partially Med, but they aren't fully Med.
Armenoids are a geographical variant of the Dinaric subtype, therefore, Romanians/Serbs/Bulgarians are fairly similar to ashkenazi Jews.
If you find this stuff interesting, I suggest you participate there.
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