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davkakach:
I just remember what Jorge Wahabbi Bush said, "Family values don't stop at the Rio Grande."...   :-\

Hail Columbia:

--- Quote from: davkakach on October 17, 2006, 03:12:52 PM ---I just remember what Jorge Wahabbi Bush said, "Family values don't stop at the Rio Grande."...   :-\

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I wonder if it occoured to him that the Rio Grande is also where Homeland Security begins?

cjd:

--- Quote from: Hail Columbia on October 17, 2006, 05:39:40 PM ---
--- Quote from: davkakach on October 17, 2006, 03:12:52 PM ---I just remember what Jorge Wahabbi Bush said, "Family values don't stop at the Rio Grande."...   :-\

--- End quote ---

I wonder if it occoured to him that the Rio Grande is also where Homeland Security begins?

--- End quote ---
I don't think it has. As a card carrying Republican I have to say that this issue above all others has annoyed me more with the Republican party. President Bush is as bad or even worse on this  than congress. They allowed two terms to slip through their hands where Republicans held the majority and were able to do something about the illeagle  problem and did nothing. . Now they are trying to get some legislation through at the 11 hour but have no provisions to fund it. This isn't flying with right wing voters like me. I will not vote spitefully come election day but if an opposition candidate has a better position on border control he will get my vote. Party line voting is no longer an option.

davkakach:

--- Quote from: cjd on October 17, 2006, 06:48:47 PM ---
--- Quote from: Hail Columbia on October 17, 2006, 05:39:40 PM ---
--- Quote from: davkakach on October 17, 2006, 03:12:52 PM ---I just remember what Jorge Wahabbi Bush said, "Family values don't stop at the Rio Grande."...   :-\

--- End quote ---

I wonder if it occoured to him that the Rio Grande is also where Homeland Security begins?

--- End quote ---
I don't think it has. As a card carrying Republican I have to say that this issue above all others has annoyed me more with the Republican party. President Bush is as bad or even worse on this  than congress. They allowed two terms to slip through their hands where Republicans held the majority and were able to do something about the illeagle  problem and did nothing. . Now they are trying to get some legislation through at the 11 hour but have no provisions to fund it. This isn't flying with right wing voters like me. I will not vote spitefully come election day but if an opposition candidate has a better position on border control he will get my vote. Party line voting is no longer an option.

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I listened to C-SPAN this morning, and one of the callers (or was it a guest being interviewed?) said that the Republican Party had no idea about who Bush really was, and they were shocked, after he was elected, to discover his positions on illegal-immigration and foreign affairs.  Judging Bush Sr.'s crooked ways and Bush Jr.'s obvious intellectually-challenged demeanor, the Republican Party must have gotten an idea about Bush Jr.'s limitations (to put it mildly), but, I guess they didn't realize the extent of his ignorance and insistence to expand the authority of the Executive branch (at the expense of the Legislative branch).

The Republicans alienated many conservative libertarians, who are appalled by the current impossible national debt and the size of our government, both of which keep growing.  These same conservative libertarians always accepted reluctantly their tenuous alliance with the Christian Right, and the last 8 years give them a good reason to identify more with their libertarian side than conservative side.  The elections this November and in '08 will not be a walk in the park for any Republican candidate.  I bet there are quite a few Republicans who secretly wish the George Bush would just drop dead and stop screwing their political careers...   ::)

cjd:
President Bush is not the best president nore is he the worst. Sometimes half a loaf of bread is better than none and thats what Conservatives got with Bush 2. The dynamics of the country is such that getting a full Conservative in office would be very difficult. He has appointed two halfway decent judges to the supreme court and has somehow managed to avoid another major terrorist attack on our soil. As a Conservative I didn't get all I was hoping to get out of his presidency however as I have said before the alternatives would have been no better. I have come to see that he is trying to do what he can without starting civil war in a country that is very closely divided on important issues.

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