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G-d, The Big Bang, non or both?
Ehud:
--- Quote from: OdKahaneChai on September 08, 2007, 10:05:12 PM ---Well, first of all, the Bang Theory says that the universe is billions and billions of years old. The universe is 5,767 (soon to be 5,768 - yesterday was the 5,768th anniversary of the first day of Creation) years old. There should be no dispute here as far as that.
Second of all, from solely a scientific standpoint I just don't think it makes sense. That much matter in such an infinitely small space would have such a strong gravitational pull that it would never just break apart like that. And then there are a lot of other things that just don't add up. See here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Bang#Horizon_problem
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The horizon problem is solved with HaShem having infinite power and being able to do that which would be impossible any other way.
OdKahaneChai:
Exactly! So then why would He have needed to use the "Big Bang" to create the world? And you still have the age problem...
Dexter:
--- Quote from: OdKahaneChai on September 08, 2007, 10:05:12 PM ---Well, first of all, the Bang Theory says that the universe is billions and billions of years old. The universe is 5,767 (soon to be 5,768 - yesterday was the 5,768th anniversary of the first day of Creation) years old. There should be no dispute here as far as that.
Second of all, from solely a scientific standpoint I just don't think it makes sense. That much matter in such an infinitely small space would have such a strong gravitational pull that it would never just break apart like that. And then there are a lot of other things that just don't add up. See here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Bang#Horizon_problem
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5,768 years have past since the creation was OVER, I think that the other 6 "days" were actually 15 bilion years .
You should read the book "The Science of God" (Gerald Schroeder) .
OdKahaneChai:
--- Quote from: Dexter on September 09, 2007, 08:44:22 AM ---
--- Quote from: OdKahaneChai on September 08, 2007, 10:05:12 PM ---Well, first of all, the Bang Theory says that the universe is billions and billions of years old. The universe is 5,767 (soon to be 5,768 - yesterday was the 5,768th anniversary of the first day of Creation) years old. There should be no dispute here as far as that.
Second of all, from solely a scientific standpoint I just don't think it makes sense. That much matter in such an infinitely small space would have such a strong gravitational pull that it would never just break apart like that. And then there are a lot of other things that just don't add up. See here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Bang#Horizon_problem
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5,768 years have past since the creation was OVER, I think that the other 6 "days" were actually 15 bilion years .
You should read the book "The Science of G-d" (Gerald Schroeder) .
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No - the second day of Rosh Hashanah will be 5,768 years since the end of creation. And yes I have heard of Gerald Schroeder and I respect his opinion but I simply disagree with him.
Dexter:
--- Quote from: OdKahaneChai on September 09, 2007, 11:58:16 AM ---
--- Quote from: Dexter on September 09, 2007, 08:44:22 AM ---
--- Quote from: OdKahaneChai on September 08, 2007, 10:05:12 PM ---Well, first of all, the Bang Theory says that the universe is billions and billions of years old. The universe is 5,767 (soon to be 5,768 - yesterday was the 5,768th anniversary of the first day of Creation) years old. There should be no dispute here as far as that.
Second of all, from solely a scientific standpoint I just don't think it makes sense. That much matter in such an infinitely small space would have such a strong gravitational pull that it would never just break apart like that. And then there are a lot of other things that just don't add up. See here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Bang#Horizon_problem
--- End quote ---
5,768 years have past since the creation was OVER, I think that the other 6 "days" were actually 15 bilion years .
You should read the book "The Science of G-d" (Gerald Schroeder) .
--- End quote ---
No - the second day of Rosh Hashanah will be 5,768 years since the end of creation. And yes I have heard of Gerald Schroeder and I respect his opinion but I simply disagree with him.
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