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Hello, I come from Germany.
White Israelite:
I am confused, yes the Germans did horrible things to the Jews, but what about the Soviets, Egypt, and the rest of Europe? Why is it only the Germans that must suffer?
MarZutra:
You are right. I feel that the Germans, or Nazi's rather, instigated and were the leading murderers but you are 100% correct the Soviet Communists were just as bad as were the Lithewanians, Latvians, Poles etc. The Muslims/Arabs go without saying... You raise a very good point..
Ultra Requete:
--- Quote from: Cohen on September 20, 2007, 01:33:47 PM ---I am confused, yes the Germans did horrible things to the Jews, but what about the Soviets, Egypt, and the rest of Europe? Why is it only the Germans that must suffer?
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Russians got 70 years of communism and 50 milions of its victims; Egypt got muslim overlords and was virtualy wiped out from nations;France lost colonial empire and got flooded by muslims; Europe got all of this plus two world war; The Germany started them and Holocaust and got the snap in in the wrist by Americans after WWII, plus USA were assisting them by Marshal Plan; its kinda unjust when nation who start all this mayhen lives well and profit from this.
White Israelite:
--- Quote from: Ultra Requete on September 20, 2007, 01:46:10 PM ---
--- Quote from: Cohen on September 20, 2007, 01:33:47 PM ---I am confused, yes the Germans did horrible things to the Jews, but what about the Soviets, Egypt, and the rest of Europe? Why is it only the Germans that must suffer?
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Russians got 70 years of communism and 50 milions of its victims; Egypt got muslim overlords and was virtualy wiped out from nations;France lost colonial empire and got flooded by muslims; Europe got all of this plus two world war; The Germany started them and Holocaust and got the snap in in the wrist by Americans after WWII, plus USA were assisting them by Marshal Plan; its kinda unjust when nation who start all this mayhen lives well and profit from this.
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I see, so esentially you are right to a degree, Egypt pretty much went to hell, Russia is pretty much like a 3rd world toilet at this point, but yet Germany is successful after the war. Germany got it's ass kicked by the Soviets when they invaded while Berlin was in ruins and East Berlin was taken over by the commies. The only reason I sympathize to a degree is that I have close relatives that lived in Germany during that period however at the same time, Germany did deserve it for what it did to the Jews. No matter how many German lives were taken in World War II or how many woman were raped in Germany by the Soviets, it will never make up for those killed in the holocaust I agree. To me, it's like a murderer who tortures their victims and ends up getting caught and tortured, I cannot feel sorry for that person because they committed the crime and now they get to learn what it's like. Germany does seem to have a flood of Russians and Turks however so it won't be long before it is overrun. On other hand, is there anything German has done or can do to try and make things right or will the Germans always pay for what they did including future generation that were not involved? It is completely understandable for those who support the idea of Nazism and those who were involved to be punished, but what about those that are righteous? It seems a bit unfair for those that sympathize with us to be punished as well as they had no choice to be born a German. While my mother would no longer be considered a German since she is now Jewish, her family and my relatives are still German and I cannot accept the idea of saying they should be punished or killed because of who they are. They support Israel and understand the suffering of the Jews.
Ultra Requete:
Well it's not only about Jews and Shoah you see; The Germany was repsonsible for two world wars (although I blame Rusia' ochrana machination in Balkans for direct cause for WWI), backed up the Turks and their Armenian holocaust 1915-16 helped Lenin to start communist revolution in Russia in 1917) and I don't have to say what "blesings" WWII had bring to entire wold; So although Germans are maybe not guilty as entire nations; and definatly not alone in their guilt; they're required of more by both Jews and their neighbors; than casual sorry and reperations; The German role in contruction of European superstate the EU, the reviving German militarism accented by German ship off the coast of Lebanon is quite alarming on its own; but when you read Goldfasent posts about ramapart leftism; nazi-muslim cooperation or Anti American and Pro Palestinian stance of German elites or German exiles demands for reperations from Poalnd and Check republic; you will understand that German state will be distrusted.
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