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« on: September 18, 2007, 06:44:10 AM »
THE REPUBLIC OF SERBIAN KRAYINA
GOVERNMENT IN EXILE
11.080 Zemun, Magistratski trg No. 3, [email protected]
Tel. 011/3007-028, fax: 3077-247
No. 460/70 – August 29th 2007

The Government of the Republic of Serbian Krayina in exile is honored to welcome diplomatic-consular representatives in the Republic of Serbia and to notify them (the note No. 432/07 – June 28th 2007) about crimes of the Croatian State committed against children during WWII.
The RSK Government in Exile is reminding the diplomatic missions and consular posts to Belgrade that on August 29 this year there was presented a documentary film "Children in Wire", produced by the "Krajina" movie company. The film was presented on the Art TV from Belgrade. The film deals with the horrible crimes of the Croatian State committed against the Serbian, Jewish, and Roma children during WWII. The Independent State of Croatia was the only member state of the Axis Powers which founded concentration camps of death for children. This fact was concealed for sixty years in European countries, and even in Yugoslavia – by order of Josip Broz Tito, a Croat. The documentary directed by Dragoljub Bulat reveals the horrible criminal (European) legacy from which Europe has not distanced itself, and Croatia, due to such a benevolent attitude of Europe, denies the commission od the crimes. The surviving witnesses to the killings of 60 thousand children – from several months of age to 15 years – have testified that the Concetration Camp of Death for Children at Jastrebarsko was run by the nuns of the Roman Catholic Church. They tested deadly poisons of the German war criminal Dr Mengele on the Serbian, Jewish and Roma children. They made experiments on hundreds of children under 10 years of age – applying the deadly poison (in the form of a paste) onto their lips. They observed in how many hours the death would come and in what kind of pains children would die. Children were crying, yowling with pain, calling for help, but the Roman Catholic nuns were busy with the statistics of the children's pains and of the time of deaths. The witness of the Jewish nationality, Oskar Danon, witnessed the killing of a few hundred Serbian and Jewish children, from two to ten years of age. One of the Croatian soldiers kept striking at the back of children's heads with a metal hammer, and throwing the children into a pit 2 metres deep.
The RSK Government in Exile informs the diplomatic missions and consular posts that a number of children were spared (a few hundred) and consigned to the care of the childless Croatian families, of foreigners and diplomats in Zagreb. These children grew up and lived under other people's names, and they never learned that they were Serbs, Jews, or Roma. Europe owes us the answer to which families these children were given. This can be done in a great degree because the Croatian registrars entered the same date of birth for these children – April 10 1941, the day when Adolf Hitler and Benito Mussolini established tha Nazi Independent State of Croatia.
The RSK Government in Exle is obliged to ask from the diplomatic missions and consular posts to inform their governments of their duty to shed some light on the state strategy of Croatia against the Serbs, and to sak from His Holiness, Pope Benedict XVI to explain after which plan of the Roman Catholic Church the nuns arranged the terrible deaths of the Serbian, Jewish and Roma children. The govermnets are also obliged to ask from the Holy See to answer whether the Roman Catholic Church has given up the plans of the bilogical extermination of the Serbs in the Balkans – the plans that were carried out by the above mentioned nuns, and supported by bishops and cardinals of the Roman Catholic Church during WWII.
The RSK Government in Exile takes this opportunity to show high respect to the diplomatic missions and consular posts to the Republic of Serbia.

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Re: Croatian death camps for children
« Reply #1 on: September 19, 2007, 08:40:30 AM »
The croats (ym'shmam) are some of the most evil barbarians on earth. If I am not mistaken, at Jasenovac, they used to slit the throats of the Serbs and drink their blood. The country of croatia should not even exist today.
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« Reply #2 on: September 19, 2007, 08:53:02 AM »
Re:  "...The country of croatia should not even exist today..."

Let's rename it Cloaca & burn it with laser beams from space

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« Reply #3 on: September 19, 2007, 12:07:04 PM »
The country of croatia should not even exist today.

We Serbs (especially we the Serbs who lived in Croatia) were against the independence  of Croatia because of our bad history with them back in WW2.

We saw that those who wanted a independent Croatian state did not want us the Serbs living in it. We did not saw other ways besides those who separated us from that kind of politic/ policy.

We knew very good the meaning of an independent Croatian state.

The independent state of Croatia is a knife for the Serbs living in it. 

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« Reply #4 on: September 19, 2007, 05:06:42 PM »






Serb children after their rescue from the Ustashi camp.





1941: Children in the Stara Gradiska concentration camp dying of slow starvation. The government of the satellite state of Croatia ordered caustic soda to be added to their food in order to eliminate them.

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« Reply #5 on: September 19, 2007, 06:05:21 PM »
This is crazy..
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Re: Croatian death camps for children
« Reply #6 on: September 20, 2007, 07:29:56 AM »
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We saw that those who wanted a independent Croatian state did not want us the Serbs living in it.

Anyone whose not blind saw that the Serbs would be ethnically cleansed from Croatia and other parts of Serbia such as Kosovo.
The Serbs are unfortunate, surrounded by muslim murderers and catholics who by enlarge are not much better than the muslims. Many of the butchers at Jasenovac were members of the croatian catholic clergy! I wish you could just wipe croatia from the face of the earth for what they did to both the Serbs and the Jews.


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« Reply #7 on: September 20, 2007, 08:25:25 AM »
I remember reading that the Croats were so bad in WW2 they made the german SS men vomit when they saw what they did to the serbs!

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« Reply #8 on: September 20, 2007, 09:00:54 AM »
I remember reading that the Croats were so bad in WW2 they made the german SS men vomit when they saw what they did to the serbs!

Yes comrade,
that's true even the German Nazi soldiers were shocked to see the Croatian way of solving problems with the Serbs and the Jews.

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« Reply #9 on: September 20, 2007, 04:37:13 PM »
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and catholics who by enlarge are not much better than the muslims. Many of the butchers at Jasenovac were members of the croatian catholic clergy!

You got that right AussieJTFer.

http://philologos.org/bpr/files/Vatican/vs001a.htm
see Article 2 & 3 as well!
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« Reply #10 on: September 21, 2007, 02:17:39 AM »
FROM THE RECORD ...

Some Roman Catholic priests, especially Franciscans, who had become sworn members of the Ustashi, had taken an oath to fight with dagger and gun for the "triumph of Christ and Croatia." How some of these priests conducted themselves after Pavelic, in July, 1941, gave the signal that inaugurated the mass killings, may be illustrated by a few cases from the files of the Yugoslav State Commission for the Investigation of War Crimes. Out of hundreds of cases, mention is made here of only a few which are typical: Priest Bozo Simlesa in the village of Listani was one of the most active members of the Ustashi. He was entrusted with the post of chief in the District of Livno. During the slaughter of the Serbs in the county of Listani he told the people from the pulpit that the time had arrived to exterminate all Serbs living in Croatia. He personally organized the Ustashi militia and obtained arms for it. On July 27, 1941, he held a meeting in the village and when he was informed that all Serbian men had been murdered and that women and children were to be killed that night, he told them not to wait for the night, for 24 hours had already passed since the chief had issued his order that not a single Serb must be left alive in Croatia.

The first Ustashi confidante in the District of Udbina was the Franciscan priest Mate Mogus, who had organized the Ustashi militia and disarmed the Yugoslav troops. At a meeting in Udbina on June 13, 1941, he said:

"Look, people, at these 16 brave Ustashi, who have 16,000 bullets and who will kill 16,000 Serbs, after which we will divide among us in a brotherly manner the Mutilic and Krbava fields."

This speech was the signal for the beginning of the slaughter of the Serbian people in the District of Udbina.

In the village of Tramosnica, priest Ante Klaric became the first Ustashi commissar, and personally led Ustashi units in attacks on Serbian villages. He organized the Ustashi militia and, according to witnesses, spoke from the pulpit as follows :

"You are old women and you should put on skirts, you have not yet killed a single Serb. We have no weapons and no knives and we should forge them out of old scythes and sickles, so that you can cut the throats of Serbs whenever you see them."

One practice of Klaric and the Ustashi in Serbian villages was to line up the Serbs in two rows, face to face, and then order them to slap one another's faces and insult and curse one another. In one instance he kept the victims locked in a school house for several days without food or water. Then before his eyes, the Ustashi beat them with gun butts and whips, and, by prior agreement, beat them all the harder the more Klaric asked them not to. Relics plundered from Serbian churches later were found in his home in most unbecoming places.

Jesuit priest Dr. Dragutin Kamber, a sworn Ustashi before the collapse of Yugoslavia, was appointed Ustashi confidante for the District of Doboj. He ordered the killing of about 300 persons in Doboj, and had about 250 more court martialed, of whom most were shot.

Priest Ivan Raguz was in close contact with prominent Ustashi in Stolac. Two days before the slaughter he declared there would be "scrambled eggs" and that he would take care of all Serbs. He boasted openly in the cafes that all questions were being solved by him jointly with the Ustashi, and urged the killings of all Serbs, including children, so that "even the seed of these beasts is not left."

Slaughter of the Serbs in Bosanska Gradiska was organized by priest Dr. Branimir Zupanic. As an Ustashi before the fall of Yugoslavia and a personal friend of Ante Pavelic, his words were decisive at the meeting at which the decision was reached to kill the Serbs. By his command in the village of Ragolje alone, more than 400 men, women and children had their throats cut.

Fra Franjo Udovic, priest in the village of Koricane, organized and commanded the militia, which he personally led when it burned the property of the Serbian people in the villages of Koricane and Imljane. He personally divided cattle plundered from the victims among his Ustashi.

Chief organizer of massacres of the Serbs in Bosnia was curate Bozidar Brale from Sarajevo. He took part in the killings with gun in hand and advocated "liquidation of the Serbs without compromise." Archbishop Saric later named the same Brale to the presidency of the Spiritual Board of the Archbishopric of Sarajevo.

Priest Srecko Peric of the Gorica monastery near Livno declared in one of his sermons in the church in Gorica:

"Kill and massacre all Serbs. First of all, kill my sister, who is married to a Serb and then all Serbs. When you finish this work, come to me here in the church and I will confess you and free you from sin."

The massacre then began, and by August 10, 1941, 5,600 Serbs had been killed in the District of Livno alone.

Franciscan Miroslav Filipovic was a member of the illegal Ustashi organization before the war. After establishment of the Independent State of Croatia he participated in massacres in the villages of Drakulic, near Banjaluka. According to his own admission at a hearing his first victim was a child, whom he killed personally while telling the Ustashi:

"Ustashi, I re-christen these degenerates in the name of G-d and you follow my example."

That was in the village of Drakulic, where 1,500 Serbs were killed in one day. Ustashi authorities later made this Franciscan commandant of Jasenovac, an Ustashi concentration camp which equaled Dachau in horror. When captured, Filipovic admitted he had ordered the murder of 40,000 men, women and children in the camp. Besides Filipovic, the Catholic priests Zvonko Brekalo, Zvonko Lipovac, Franciscan Culina and others also worked at the Jasenovac camp.

In Dvor na Uni priest Anton Djuric kept a diary of his activities as an Ustashi functionary. The diary shows that at his order the Ustashi plundered and burned the village of Segestin, where 150 Serbs were murdered, and that in the village Goricka he arrested 117 people, who were sent to a concentration camp, where most of them were killed.

A group of Franciscan priests who tortured and finally killed 25 Serbs in the village of Kasle took pictures of the "execution."

In Hercegovina the center of the Ustashi movement was located in the Franciscan monastery and the high school of Siroki Brijeg. The Catholic Dean in Stolac in Hercegovina, priest Marko Zovko, was responsible for the murder of 200 persons, whose bodies were thrown into a ditch in a field in Vidovo. Curate Ilija Tomas from the village of Klepac was responsible for the death of many Serbs in that district. In order more easily to capture frightened victims who were fleeing to the mountains, he promised them that no harm would befall them if they would embrace the Catholic religion.

Many of them believed this and called on him, whereupon he turned them over to the Ustashi, who murdered them.

In the village of Stikade, in Lika, the Ustashi were under the leadership of the Catholic priest Morber. Morber invited the Serbs to be converted to the Catholic religion. Those of them who accepted in good faith his proposal to be converted the Ustashi surrounded and massacred with rifles and hammers and threw the bodies into a ditch. When the bodies were dug up later it was established that many had been alive when buried.

Franciscans from the monastery in Sinj, Ivan Hrstic, Stanko Litre and Joso Olujic, personally maltreated captured Partisan Serbs and Partisan Croats. Hrstic was a major and Litre a captain in the Ustashi army.

Franciscan Mijo Cujic of Duvno personally gave instructions regarding the massacre of Serbs in the villages of Prisoje and Vrila, where not one person was allowed to remain alive.

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Re: Croatian death camps for children
« Reply #11 on: September 22, 2007, 10:31:53 PM »
they should be wiped out to the last the croat beasts. Catholicism is not much better than islam in the hands of creatures such as croats.

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« Reply #12 on: September 23, 2007, 01:13:57 AM »










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« Reply #13 on: September 23, 2007, 03:03:05 AM »
they should be wiped out to the last the croat beasts. Catholicism is not much better than islam in the hands of creatures such as croats.

We have not experienced this kind of brutalities not even during the Turkish occupation. The only government who planned and organized death camps for children with the blessing of their religion institutions was the independent state of Croatia.

The most horrible atrocities committed against the Serbs were the Croatian’s, Albanian’s and the Bosnian’s.

A question to my Jewish comrades.
Did the Germans also had concentration camps specific for children?
Or were those concentration camps against the Jewish people in general including men, women and children?

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« Reply #14 on: September 23, 2007, 03:21:41 AM »
The liitle children were selected to gass chambers; with all others "unfit for work" by Nazi German SS camp doctors; or selected for "medicall" experiments. :(
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11 They dress the wound of my people as though it were not serious. Peace, peace, they say, when there is no peace.

12 Are they ashamed of their loathsome conduct? No, they have no shame at all; they do not even know how to blush. So they will fall among the fallen; they will be brought down when they are punished, says the LORD.

13 'I will take away their harvest, declares the LORD. There will be no grapes on the vine. There will be no figs on the tree, and their leaves will wither. What I have given them will be taken from them.'

14 Why are we sitting here? Gather together! Let us flee to the fortified cities and perish there! For the LORD our God has doomed us to perish and given us poisoned water to drink, because we have sinned against him.

15 We hoped for peace but no good has come, for a time of healing but there was only terror.

16 The snorting of the enemy's horses is heard from Dan; at the neighing of their stallions the whole land trembles. They have come to devour the land and everything in it, the city and all who live there.

17 See, I will send venomous snakes among you, vipers that cannot be charmed, and they will bite you, declares the LORD.

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« Reply #15 on: September 23, 2007, 05:50:42 AM »
No you are right, the croats were the only ones to establish a seperate sub-camp at Jasenovac just for children. The bosnian ss units inspired and established by yasser arafat's great uncle, haj-amin al husseini (ym'shmo) were notorious in their wholesale slaughter of entire villages, specifically the methods of torture inflicted on children, including beheadings and rapings.
One must also remember that the nazi party was established by hitler, a baptised catholic, in bavaria, a predominantly catholic area of germany. That is not to absolve the lutheran germans of their mass murder or the albanian/bosnian muslims who would have naturally taken to committing atrocities due to the nature of their evil religion, it just seems that the vatican has always had a hand in mankind's worst acts.

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« Reply #16 on: September 23, 2007, 05:06:32 PM »
2/3 of Germany was Lutheran; after this nice protestant guy who wanted to raise all sinagogues and burn Jews alive in their homes. ::)   
Jeremiah 8:11-17

11 They dress the wound of my people as though it were not serious. Peace, peace, they say, when there is no peace.

12 Are they ashamed of their loathsome conduct? No, they have no shame at all; they do not even know how to blush. So they will fall among the fallen; they will be brought down when they are punished, says the LORD.

13 'I will take away their harvest, declares the LORD. There will be no grapes on the vine. There will be no figs on the tree, and their leaves will wither. What I have given them will be taken from them.'

14 Why are we sitting here? Gather together! Let us flee to the fortified cities and perish there! For the LORD our God has doomed us to perish and given us poisoned water to drink, because we have sinned against him.

15 We hoped for peace but no good has come, for a time of healing but there was only terror.

16 The snorting of the enemy's horses is heard from Dan; at the neighing of their stallions the whole land trembles. They have come to devour the land and everything in it, the city and all who live there.

17 See, I will send venomous snakes among you, vipers that cannot be charmed, and they will bite you, declares the LORD.

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« Reply #17 on: September 23, 2007, 06:11:48 PM »
Every word I read about how my enemies killed my people with joy. Makes me wish for time to speed up and that I can start killing them back. And don't be mistaking, every last one of them will die.

In 20 years from now the croats,bosniaks,slovenes and albanians can write about me as a monster or a psychopath, But I will not regret a single thing, quoting the Punisher " This is not revenge, this is punishment".

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« Reply #18 on: September 24, 2007, 02:34:28 AM »
Every word I read about how my enemies killed my people with joy. Makes me wish for time to speed up and that I can start killing them back. And don't be mistaking, every last one of them will die.

In 20 years from now the croats,bosniaks,slovenes and albanians can write about me as a monster or a psychopath, But I will not regret a single thing, quoting the Punisher " This is not revenge, this is punishment".

We must blame our selves.
We know who our enemies are and we must know what they have done to us (and still doing it today).

If we had solved the Jasenovac case on time we would know today the exact total number of Serbian victims. The world would also know that Serbs were victims of genocide. But they do not know. If we can not tell it than it will be onknown.
We forgave the Croatians for genocide. That’s a knife in the hearts of our fallen martyrs. We the Serbs rewarded our enemies with pure Serbian ethnic territory. Of course the will stab us in the back after 45 years.

Not prosecuting your enemies is also a crime. That means you don not care about your own people.
If we did that in 1945 we would had a different situation in the begin of the 90. 
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« Reply #19 on: September 24, 2007, 02:45:11 AM »
We can not punish or kill people for the mistakes of their forefathers.
We can only capture those who have blood on their hands and sentenced them.

The descants of those criminals must face the consequence of the criminal behavior of their forefathers.
But they do not deserve the same punishment as the perpetrators. 

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« Reply #20 on: September 24, 2007, 05:12:58 AM »
Not talking about them, but as you may have seen yourself 200.000 give or take, Splicani showed their allegiance with Nazism. So those 200.000 are on my list. Amongst those who think that Ustashe did the right thing.

It's not always the one with the blood on his hands that's the real perpetrator.

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« Reply #21 on: September 24, 2007, 05:31:07 AM »
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The descants of those criminals must face the consequence of the criminal behavior of their forefathers.

The descendants seem pretty proud of their grandparents considering they still name major avenues after ustashe war criminals in croatian cities and buy mein kampf in extremely large numbers.

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« Reply #22 on: September 24, 2007, 05:34:05 AM »
we should learn from history, everytime Serbs forgive their neighbours tresspassing we get killed.

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« Reply #23 on: September 24, 2007, 08:46:05 AM »
Not talking about them, but as you may have seen yourself 200.000 give or take, Splicani showed their allegiance with Nazism. So those 200.000 are on my list. Amongst those who think that Ustashe did the right thing.

It's not always the one with the blood on his hands that's the real perpetrator.

Haha yes Splicani they are big nationalists and those from Zadar also bloodthirsy people.

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« Reply #24 on: September 24, 2007, 11:39:29 AM »
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The bosnian ss units inspired and established by yasser arafat's great uncle, haj-amin al husseini (ym'shmo) were notorious in their wholesale slaughter of entire villages, specifically the methods of torture inflicted on children, including beheadings and rapings.

You're right AussieJTFer.
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