University of Florida student tasered arrested for questioning John Kerry

[New Yorker]

This is just to funny 

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Xzkd_m4ivmc

[RationalThought110]

Ann is right about most things but certainly not everything.

If she supports the tasering, which I doubt she will do, she is clearly in the wrong. Can you picture Chaim or David taking the side of the dyke police force?

Can you picture David or Chaim saying that the kid overstepped the line in asking Kerry some tough questions?

 

I don't think Chaim despises the police.  You think he takes Al Shartpon's or Jesse Jackson's side every time they make false accusations against the police?  I doubt it.

[MarZutra]

In my opinion, it was totally wrong what the police did.  The kid, even being a leftist, did take his time to ask questions that others often think about.  I may not agree with this fellows opinions but to be silenced via the same old tactics the communists used in the labor unions by unplugging the mic and being beaten for his voice.

It was police brutality, a violation of his constitutional rights to free speech.  More over, I do not side with this kid because he is a Jew (so I'm told) not because of his political opinions/views but because he has a right to free speech and voice his views like all others... 

He should sue the police and even John Kerry personally for standing idly by or even instigating the entire issue by his fraudulant actions, being a member of a highly questionable and even treasonous organization: skull and bones..

Theoretically, MassuhD would be right in always supporting a Jew: "Thou shalt not stand idly by thy brother's blood" - Lev 19:16 BUT in my opinion this does not pertain to anti-Jew leftists like soros... 

I fully support and back this kid on his constitutional rights alone...

I hope that this answers your quesitons and I posted a little something...

[MassuhDGoodName]

Marzutra:  "I hope that this answers your quesitons and I posted a little something..."

Marzutra, you have passed over the truly important questions!
Please answer the following:

Question: When it's time for their "come 'uppance", which mongrels should be bullwhipped first?

a) the two fat yellow skinned bulldykes?
b) the 7 ft. spook with 15 lbs. of black blubber growing on the back of his neck?
c) Goofus & Gumby, the frightened 6'2" whiteys afraid to be the first on their block to do anything?
d) Kerry's campaign manager?
e) The jigolo?

Question:  Once the bullwhip has "educated" the uneducated, which mutants should be tasered from 1" away from their butt?
a) everyone from the media in attendance?
b) everyone who laughed at the tasering?
c) the jackboot Fascists given dangerous weapons to compensate for their inferior minds?
d) all Mohammedans on the campus?
e) forget electricity...lock all of the above in a bamboo cage, packed so tight that any movement is impossible, suspend with a crane to "dry out" in the Florida sun, and come back in a year or two to view "The JTF exhibit of modern art".

Answer wisely, Marzutra!  This is your last chance!

[Joe Schmo]

DEATH TO FASCIST JACK-BOOTED NAZI THUGS!

Sickening!

Fat Ugly Mutant Bull-Dyke Whores, 7 ft tall rubberneck [censored], Hispanics, Stupid Dumb Whitey Flunkeys.

THIS IS NAZISM...PURE AND SIMPLE...COMING TO A NEIGHBORHOOD NEAR YOU...SOON!

DON'T GIVE UP YOUR GUNS.

STOCKPILE WEAPONS FOR YOUR OWN SURVIVAL.

LEAVE FOR ERETZ YISRAEL IF POSSIBLE.

yawn.

[dawntreader]

I was so pissed when I saw those cops/security guards/whatever tasering that guy! Whatever happened to the fourth amendment? I think the cops can legitimately be said to have "Seized" him. Further more, he spent the night in jail WITHOUT being arrested.

If I had been there I would have caused a riot. I would have been calling for the student body to join me in rushing those cops.

The Police in general have been steadily gaining powers, and now it seems, no matter what they do...well it's ok because well, they're the cops you see. They MUST be in the right. They've got a uniform, and a badge.

I happen to think they just lack a nice set of jack-boots and a little swastika arm band myself.

The Executive Branch of the U.S. government needs a major overhaul. From the top down, because those in high places, on down to the thugs hired off the streets who get to be legitimate thugs wearing uniforms, all seriously seem to act with impunity. They seem above the law.

(Have you noticed that the policeman's life is worth more than the average Joe?...just take a look at the immediate death penalty that's handed out to a "cop killer" as opposed to many different variations of sentences handed down to those who might just happen to murder a bum under a bridge.)

It sickens me. Especially so, when you know that these people are part of a branch of government that is systematically removing the individual freedoms of American Citizens. (Of course, the Legislative Branch members are all wuss's who jump on the coat-tails of their particular party leadership...regardless of what is REALLY right or wrong.)

[cjd]

I was so pissed when I saw those cops/security guards/whatever tasering that guy! Whatever happened to the fourth amendment? I think the cops can legitimately be said to have "Seized" him. Further more, he spent the night in jail WITHOUT being arrested.

If I had been there I would have caused a riot. I would have been calling for the student body to join me in rushing those cops.

The Police in general have been steadily gaining powers, and now it seems, no matter what they do...well it's ok because well, they're the cops you see. They MUST be in the right. They've got a uniform, and a badge.

I happen to think they just lack a nice set of jack-boots and a little swastika arm band myself.

The Executive Branch of the U.S. government needs a major overhaul. From the top down, because those in high places, on down to the thugs hired off the streets who get to be legitimate thugs wearing uniforms, all seriously seem to act with impunity. They seem above the law.

(Have you noticed that the policeman's life is worth more than the average Joe?...just take a look at the immediate death penalty that's handed out to a "cop killer" as opposed to many different variations of sentences handed down to those who might just happen to murder a bum under a bridge.)

It sickens me. Especially so, when you know that these people are part of a branch of government that is systematically removing the individual freedoms of American Citizens. (Of course, the Legislative Branch members are all wuss's who jump on the coat-tails of their particular party leadership...regardless of what is REALLY right or wrong.)

I dislike Kerry about as much as anyone else and possibly a bit more. The sad fact is when you have people assembled together like that there is only so much disruption you can allow before the situation starts to spiral out of control. This kid was there to create a incident and he was really very bad at disguising it. The fact you complain that policeman's like is worth more than the average Joe is not exactly the case. The fact is is that police respond to situations dealing with violent people every day. The laws on the books that make it a death penalty for killing an officer is a good one. People need to know that they can't  expect to take down a police officer and then walk away with 10 years jail time. They have to know that if they shoot and kill an officer that they will be put to death or at the least face life in prison. As bad as you think things have become here in the USA we are a long way from jackboots and swastikas.

[MarZutra]

Marzutra:  "I hope that this answers your quesitons and I posted a little something..."

Marzutra, you have passed over the truly important questions!
Please answer the following:

Question: When it's time for their "come 'uppance", which mongrels should be bullwhipped first?

a) the two fat yellow skinned bulldykes?
b) the 7 ft. spook with 15 lbs. of black blubber growing on the back of his neck?
c) Goofus & Gumby, the frightened 6'2" whiteys afraid to be the first on their block to do anything?
d) Kerry's campaign manager?
e) The jigolo?
f) All of the Above

Question:  Once the bullwhip has "educated" the uneducated, which mutants should be tasered from 1" away from their butt?
a) everyone from the media in attendance?
b) everyone who laughed at the tasering?
c) the jackboot Fascists given dangerous weapons to compensate for their inferior minds?
d) all Mohammedans on the campus?
e) forget electricity...lock all of the above in a bamboo cage, packed so tight that any movement is impossible, suspend with a crane to "dry out" in the Florida sun, and come back in a year or two to view "The JTF exhibit of modern art".
f) All of the above

Answer wisely, Marzutra!  This is your last chance!

From what I saw from watching the video, the guy did not do anything wrong as far as I could tell.  If it were me, you or most of the others on this forum we'd too have been tasered for asking any and all questions we'd like to have asked most especially if it was directly posed to Mr. Kerry and his connections to the Skull and Bones. 

What was done to this kid was pure fascism.  Sadly, this kid being of the left probably will not think twice that it was his own ideological cohorts that did it to him just as the Bolsheviks that run Israel can't seem to grasp that the anti-Jew hates the Jew no matter if the Jew is a Nazi like Fisher or a Communist like Marx....   my two cents.... 

[Daniel]

Jay Leno stated so eloquently, "This was the first time someone was electrified at a John Kerry speech!"

[Daniel]

I saw the youtube video of it and i was pretty confused of what was goign on, but someone explained it to me.

In my opinion, even though I hate Kerry with the passion, believe that this person who got tasered was heckeling Kerry inappropriately. It's not that he asked a simple question...he answered his own question...thereby wasn't addressing Kerry, but preventing Kerry from his own free speech.  Heckeling is not a good form of free speech since it disrupts someone else's. The exception to the rule is if the speech being heckled is a true hate speech, which Kerry wasn't doing.

Nevertheless, the appropriate thing to do with this heckler was to escort him out. THe tasering was over the top.

The issue was also that when security or law enforcement tells you to do something, you do it! This guy was refusing to comply with the security guards' orders and was resisting. That's why he got tasered and that's why it was justified.

[Daniel]

Why the kid needed and deserved to be tasered:

1.) The forum was at its end. This aggorant nutcase saved his questions for the end of the forum just so he could start trouble. He's a nutcase liberal, so he's going to do nutcase things.

2.) He resisted arrest. He clearly did not go quietly. I watched this first on MSNBC. Chris Matthews played this video and the audio was so loud, it seemed like the kid was being tortured. Matthews and company commented on the barbaricness of the security guards. When the video was aired on the O'Reilly Factor the audio was set to a normal level, and it was pretty apparent this kid was milking it. O'Reilly even called this kid "a wuss."

3.) This kid is notorious for creating trouble on campus. He has a reputation for being a world-class pain in the tush, and has been suspended before for his abnormal behavior.

4.) In Conclusion, the tasing wasn't so bad. They have him one little zap and that was that. They knew who this kid was, so they knew to act accordingly. This kid had it coming.

What? Kerry is a liberal, that doesn't even make sense how you could call the kid a liberal. If the kid was a liberal, then why did Kerry have him escorted?

Kerry didn't have him escorted. The kid was making a ruckus. He wouldn't calm down. The security guards started to remove him from the auditorium and he started flailing violently, so they had no choice but to take action.

Let me ask you this: Say you were attending a Broadway play. At the end of the show, you get up and start causing a commotion. Yelling at the actors and getting all nutty. You've lost control and aren't rational. What do you expect security to do, allow you to continue to disturb people with your outburst or do something about?

Like I said, if you read about this kid, you'll learn that he has a history of trouble-making.

Calling this Nazism is false. This is about maintaining decency in society.

You cannot let people do whatever they want.

And this kid wasn't a Kerry-supporter. He started to criticize him. He started hurling a barrage of questions at Kerry. So many, that there was no way Kerry could've possibly answered them all. Remember, the forum had just ended, too. He reminded me of that Arab Nazi who attends all of Bush's addresses and does the same thing.

I disagree that just because he was criticizing Kerry means that he didn't support him. A similar situation occurred when the Congressional Black Caucus was harassing Al Gore for accepting the Florida results and requested that the chair's decision should be appealed when Al Gore was the chair. So does this mean the Congressional Black Caucus didn't support Gore?

[MarZutra]

When was he "resisiting" arrest?  What did he do that was justifiable for arrest in the first place, state his views?  On the video one can clearly hear him say something to the affect "Leave me alone. I've done nothing wrong. I'll leave peacefully if you let me go"....  This kid was clearly no threat to anyone and didn't disserve what he got nor to be treated this way by fascist police officers....

Brother, I humbly disagree...

[Daniel]

When was he "resisiting" arrest?  What did he do that was justifiable for arrest in the first place, state his views?  On the video one can clearly hear him say something to the affect "Leave me alone. I've done nothing wrong. I'll leave peacefully if you let me go"....  This kid was clearly no threat to anyone and didn't disserve what he got nor to be treated this way by fascist police officers....

Brother, I humbly disagree...

His words and his actions contradicted each other. He wasn't leaving peacefully.

This isn't an issue of not being able to state his views. That's just fine. The problem was is that he just went on and on and on and refused to stop talking after it was requested again and again. Then he continued to yell and shout and disrupt as the security guards were removing him from the room.

I don't disagree with his viewpoints as much as I disagree with the way he went about causing a major disruption. These are two separate issues.

[MarZutra]

Well, IF, as i'm using capital letters because I personally didn't see it the way you state but IF he was doing what you say, there was no need for tasering of the fellow as he was already leaving when the security guards were pushing him to the back and he was already on the ground when they used the tasers. 

Sorry brother, I must disagree with you.  I happen, to agree with Michael Savage's view on this as well.  Even though he was a leftist... which begs the question as to why Leftists are allowed to dominate and act far worse than this fellow when a "right wing"/Conservative is speaking and the opposite when a Leftist anti-American like Kerry is up there?  He didn't disserve what he got.  Time will tell once all the law suits end....