The far left and far right

[RationalThought110]

JDL4ever asked a question about them on the "Ask JTF".  Isn't the far left a much more active than the far right?

[RationalThought110]

I'm not sure about the far right but the far left likes to defend those like the president of Iran and claim how statements made by him get mistranslated. 

[MarZutra]

Well the far Left and Far Right usually are mistaken firstly.  Communists are always active as per their ideology while the far right; Anarchists are too active but sadly these two groups, both being inept, work to the same ends most of the time.  The Right wing, or lets say "right of center", is more concerned with earning a good wage, raising a good family and protecting what they have instead of working continually to undermine every one else to establish a NWO great "utopia"....  my two cents... 

Most ministers and Rabbis do not go out to or organize mass rallies or political/social movements while the Communists/Socialists/Fascists continually promulgate their rubbish.  This is one arguement I have is that Othodox Rabbi, for the vast major part, too sit idly by and are not active either speaking out or educating themselves to the realities of the world (much directly attacking Israel and Jews) outside of Torah/Talmud/Mishna education.  This is where I give Rabbi Kahane the highest respect imo

[Daniel]

The farther someone goes to the extremes in either direction, the more alike they become.

[MarZutra]

The farther someone goes to the extremes in either direction, the more alike they become.

Actually, the two are polar opposites to be factually correct.  Communists (far left) is total government while Anarchists (far right) stands for no government whatsoever but both do everything they can to disrupt and be a pain in the donkey.  One must too keep in mind that Anarchy doesn't always equate with chaos which is more or less the justification of a societal meltdown instigated by the communist movement to "progress" their 3 tier military dictatorship and total government onto the masses. 

Many of the traditional "Anarchist" groups of the early 30's-50's have been propagated as "Anarchists" but really they were Communist...in London's East End for example.  My inept father was a follower of Peter Kropoktin and now he's more or less a Socialist...sorry to say..   

[Daniel]

The farther someone goes to the extremes in either direction, the more alike they become.

Actually, the two are polar opposites to be factually correct.  Communists (far left) is total government while Anarchists (far right) stands for no government whatsoever but both do everything they can to disrupt and be a pain in the donkey.  One must too keep in mind that Anarchy doesn't always equate with chaos which is more or less the justification of a societal meltdown instigated by the communist movement to "progress" their 3 tier military dictatorship and total government onto the masses. 

Many of the traditional "Anarchist" groups of the early 30's-50's have been propagated as "Anarchists" but really they were Communist...in London's East End for example.  My inept father was a follower of Peter Kropoktin and now he's more or less a Socialist...sorry to say..   

So would that make your father morally vacuous as well?

[MarZutra]

My father is a nice but wholely closed minded and arrogant man....  Like most of those on the socio-policial Left..

[Ultra Requete]

After WWII the far left was more active; becouse the far right was asociated rightly or wrongly (thats topic for another thead) with nazism; But now when people from far left 1968 generation became fat and entranched on top the far right is become more and more active; espcialy on issues such as immigration; "gay rights", Israel, Islam; etc... 

[mord]

Some far far right are pro Israel but all far far left are anti Israel

[MarZutra]

After WWII the far left was more active; becouse the far right was asociated rightly or wrongly (thats topic for another thead) with nazism; But now when people from far left 1968 generation became fat and entranched on top the far right is become more and more active; espcialy on issues such as immigration; "gay rights", Israel, Islam; etc... 

The only reason why "Right Wing" was associated with Nazism, too a far Leftwing ideology, was due to the Communist need for an opposite enemy when Hitler invaded Russia.  Since that day the Communist propaganda machine world wide promulgated Nazism as "Right Wing".  This too was accepted and embraced by elitist run American media to paint over the former enemy Left Wing Communist Russia as a trusted "ally" agaisnt the "real" enemy Nazi Germany.  There is virtually, as you probably well know, next to no difference between Communism and Nazism aside from the pagan religious injections...  Antony Sutton is a very good author on this specific subject.  I don't know about the rest sorry...

[Ultra Requete]

Some far far right are pro Israel but all far far left are anti Israel

Those who're Anti Israeli and/or anti American are crypto-nazi or woud back the nazim.

[Ultra Requete]

After WWII the far left was more active; becouse the far right was asociated rightly or wrongly (thats topic for another thead) with nazism; But now when people from far left 1968 generation became fat and entranched on top the far right is become more and more active; espcialy on issues such as immigration; "gay rights", Israel, Islam; etc... 

The only reason why "Right Wing" was associated with Nazism was due to the Communist need for an opposite enemy when Hitler invaded Russia.  Since that day the Communist propaganda machine world wide promulgated Nazism as "Right Wing".  This too was accepted and embraced by elitist run American media to paint over the former enemy Left Wing Communist Russia as a trusted "ally" agaisnt the "real" enemy Nazi Germany.  There is virtually, as you probably well know, next to no difference between Communism and Nazism aside from the pagan religious injections...  Antony Sutton is a very good author on this specific subject.  I don't know about the rest sorry...

That's true; people are mixing all this names; especialy fascism which is just rule of corporetations (USA is heading this way); with Nazism which is national socialism with anty jewish and rascist twist. Any way all those ideologies are only tools of enlightened ones.   

[MarZutra]

Exactly, I couldn't agree with you more.  All replace HaShem with man or state as being the eternal law maker, established truths, cultural dictats etc.  We all know the outcome but sadly these "utopian" leftist ideologies are continually catered to and embraced by the academics that pass them onto benighted children going to school to learn how to think not indoctrinated in "what to think"..  Agreed brother...agreed

[RationalThought110]

Is it true that Nazis pretend to be "far-right"?

http://www.jtf.org/america/america.french.nazis.htm

[Ultra Requete]

 
It's 100% correct, Le Pen seems to be nationalalist in politics,socialist in economy and had probrem with Holocaust in the past=Nazi, although he apealed to French
Jewry to vothe him on last elections; and 90% of his voters are not nazi.   

[MarZutra]

This is a tough topic to answer.  If one has read Mein Kemf and too studied Hitler's deeds and words there was little "National" in his "National Socialism" with exception to his German racial laws.  His Nazi ideology was not solely meant for Germany but a global mentality shown by his desire to conquer others in the East and Russia.  That said, aside from the Germanic/Theosophy Paganism strewn within, there was nothing different between Stalin and Hitler or Nazism and Communism.  Most people don't know, because of the mass propaganda, but according to the Author of "The Rise of Radicalism", states as well as many autobiographies in brief that Adolf Hitler, before attending the Nazi Party and the Thule Society he attened and was expelled from the German Workers Party: Communist Party. 

So one can see the link between the Nazi Party and ideology with the Communist Party and that particular ideology.

[Ultra Requete]

This is a tough topic to answer.  If one has read Mein Kemf and too studied Hitler's deeds and words there was little "National" in his "National Socialism" with exception to his German racial laws.  His Nazi ideology was not solely meant for Germany but a global mentality shown by his desire to conquer others in the East and Russia.  That said, aside from the Germanic/Theosophy Paganism strewn within, there was nothing different between Stalin and Hitler or Nazism and Communism.  Most people don't know, because of the mass propaganda, but according to the Author of "The Rise of Radicalism", states as well as many autobiographies in brief that Adolf Hitler, before attending the Nazi Party and the Thule Society he attened and was expelled from the German Workers Party: Communist Party. 

So one can see the link between the Nazi Party and ideology with the Communist Party and that particular ideology.

He did had some strange moments in Munich 1919:

New research shows that from November 1918 to September 1919 Hitler did everything he could to stay in the army instead of being demobilized
Dec. 1918/Jan. 1919: works guarding Russian POWs at Traunstein camp northeast of Munich (with fellow former dispatch-bearer Ernst Schmidt)
Feb. 1919: back in Munich, elected regimental representative of soldier's council;
filmed in funeral procession of assassinated Jewish-communist leader Kurt Eisner
March-April: radical "red" councils rule Munich ("red terror")
May: Kaiser-loyalist "white" free corps troops conquer Munich, "bathe streets in blood"
In May 1919 Hitler works for the reactionary "white" troops interviewing soldiers who had remained in Munich to find out how much they had sympathized with the "reds."
He attends nationalist lectures in order to be able to convince them that communism is bad
He is assigned to report to the army (Reichswehr) leadership on various political groups
See the memoir by Karl Mayr, Hitler's Reichswehr supervisor, published in 1941
One of those groups is Anton Drexler's miniscule "German Workers Party" (Deutsche Arbeiter-Partei, DAP, a very socialist name)
At this time Hitler meets and is helped by a number of influential men who will later help him in his political career, including Ernst Röhm (whom Hitler has killed in June 1934)
Hitler also discovers his uncanny ability as a public speaker

http://www.history.ucsb.edu/faculty/marcuse/classes/33d/33d05/33d05L03Hitler.htm

So he was red. white, gey, and secret police informer in between; Very interestingly it was not pictured in latest film about him.

[MarZutra]

yup, as the book "The Hidden Hitler" and "Pink Swastika" state that Hitler liked the army.  You know, all those hairy asses around for him to admire not to mention have a romp in the hay with his "buddy"....

Funny how even today Nazis are violently anti-Homosexual while the all place postors up of Frauline Adofine Schickelgruber....