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We need a militia for Jews

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newman:

--- Quote from: Boeregeneraal on September 25, 2007, 06:06:08 AM ---Newmna, seems like us in AU need to do something similiar eh? We've got about 5million square kilometers of potential ground to base our facilities. bloody gun regulation!

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The horse has already bolted in Australia on guns. Once they're taken/ given up, you NEVER get them back. A lesson to the US members here.

NEVER GIVE UP YOUR GUNS............EVER!!!

White Israelite:

--- Quote from: jdl4ever on September 25, 2007, 10:05:57 PM ---I like the idea as well.  I agree that you got to keep it secretive and only PM information to those you trust in real life and on the forum. I don't trust the gov't as they tend to close these Kahane following groups down and arrest all the members with trumped up charges like saying one of them was found having a KahaneChai flier from 17 years ago and was planning on remaking kahanechai or some nonsense like that.  Or they could just arrest you with fake charges and drop the fake charges a while later but in the mean time, you got to go to jail and bail yourself out and waste your time in court.  Or you were trespassing on some gov't owned property when you were shooting, you get the point, I don't trust them.  (And I agree that 2 JDL people were killed in prison and the gov't probably planned it).

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Yes I understand what you mean. It should probably be kept small and perhaps we could do recruiting to people we know or just those that share similar ideaology, gain trust, etc.

How do all these neo nazi and muslim camps survive without legal problems? Have you guys seen the Combat 18 neo nazi group videos? They are constantly training for war and haven't been shut down.

Wayne Jude:
Because their not Jewish or white.But the safest way is small independant cells.But I don't think any move like this is a good one.The Government will set you up like they did to destroy the militia movement of the 1980's.Remember Timothy Mcveigh.A set up.Ruby ridge ect.Words are much more powerful.

Maccabi:
I think a better route is this:

Simply encourage Jews to get involved in the martial arts for starters. 
Try to make your Yeshiva also a culture of MMA and share what knowledge you have with your fellow Jews.
(such as video tapes, techniques, split the costs of UFC fights on PPV etc...)

You may be surprised at what they have to offer!

Also go to your local Krav place and train.

The only thing that could cause problems is guns, so make that something separate and less frequent (maybe 5-10x per year at ranges).

I think MMA like Krav and BJJ are a good start.  Of course, they aren't perfect, but no one is going to get in trouble for being in top shape and learning lethal hand to hand.  Once you have that solid foundation in place, I think it would be much easier to add the more risky stuff in using less frequent weekend training.

I guess my point is a fundamental shift in thinking is a great start.  Associating your Jewish studies with various martial arts will be a great benefit.

Also I agree with whoever said that the neonazi culture trains harder and is more into muscle building.  It should scare you a little...but more importantly, it should motivate you.  Actually, fear can motivate you more than anything!

Remember, you are smarter than them...Their main edge is brute force criminal violence.  Take that away from them they are nothing but amoral, Jew-hating trailer trash. 

In the end, it may be cheaper, less risky, and more effective to simply do MMA training mixed with various weekend trainings like seminars and range shooting.

Wayne Jude:
Good advice!

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