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Re: The Truth about chok haleom(Nationality Law)
« Reply #1 on: December 03, 2018, 10:53:26 AM »
Noahides are the only acceptable minority in the Land of Israel. Christians and muslims do not belong there. 

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Re: The Truth about chok haleom(Nationality Law)
« Reply #2 on: December 03, 2018, 12:24:37 PM »
I don't think so. We don't tell other people what to believe in. You could also say say only observant Jews are allowed in the land of Israel, same logic is it not? Just kick out everyone who don't believe in exactly you believe in?


Noahides are the only acceptable minority in the Land of Israel. Christians and muslims do not belong there.

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Re: The Truth about chok haleom(Nationality Law)
« Reply #3 on: December 03, 2018, 12:34:56 PM »
I don't think so. We don't tell other people what to believe in. You could also say say only observant Jews are allowed in the land of Israel, same logic is it not? Just kick out everyone who don't believe in exactly you believe in?

I did not write the Torah. For any Gentiles who do not accept and observe the Noahide Code, the Jews are commanded to expel them from the Land of Israel, and they are forbidden by Torah Law to dwell there (whether they are expelled or not).

By the way, your argument that Jews don't tell other people what to believe in is false because Jews are commanded to compel, teach and inform the Gentiles to accept the Seven Noahide Commandments. 
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Re: The Truth about chok haleom(Nationality Law)
« Reply #4 on: December 03, 2018, 03:31:29 PM »
I don't recall every hearing any rabbi telling gentiles what they have to believe in. I have listened to many interviews of rabbi Kahane and one of his major talking points for the gentiles is that we simply want to be left alone in our country, don't tell us what to do like we don't tell you.
I did not write the Torah. For any Gentiles who do not accept and observe the Noahide Code, the Jews are commanded to expel them from the Land of Israel, and they are forbidden by Torah Law to dwell there (whether they are expelled or not).

By the way, your argument that Jews don't tell other people what to believe in is false because Jews are commanded to compel, teach and inform the Gentiles to accept the Seven Noahide Commandments.

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Re: The Truth about chok haleom(Nationality Law)
« Reply #5 on: December 03, 2018, 04:01:43 PM »
I don't recall every hearing any rabbi telling gentiles what they have to believe in. I have listened to many interviews of rabbi Kahane and one of his major talking points for the gentiles is that we simply want to be left alone in our country, don't tell us what to do like we don't tell you.
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Re: The Truth about chok haleom(Nationality Law)
« Reply #6 on: December 03, 2018, 04:04:31 PM »
I don't recall every hearing any rabbi telling gentiles what they have to believe in. I have listened to many interviews of rabbi Kahane and one of his major talking points for the gentiles is that we simply want to be left alone in our country, don't tell us what to do like we don't tell you.

Tosafot, Tractate Hagigah 13a, states that it is an obligation for the Jews to teach and inform the Gentiles of the Seven Noahide Commandments. Likewise, Moses was also commanded by G-d to compel all nations of the world to accept the seven Noahide precepts that they had been commanded (Rambam, Laws of Kings 8:10).

See also Rambam's Sefer Ha'Mitzvot, Positive Commandment 3, that Jews are commanded to love G-d, and to therefore call out to the people of the world to believe in G-d and recognize Him, quoting Sifri (on Deuteronomy 6:5): "Bring love of Him to all people, like Abraham your father."   
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