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« Reply #25 on: January 20, 2019, 09:35:15 PM »
Can there be a translation in today's English though? Like I had to keep my 18th century thesaurus too close for it to be an entertaining read.

Many men there ben that with eeres openly sprad so moche swalowen the deliciousnesse of jestes and of ryme by queynt knitting coloures that of the goodnesse or of the badnesse of the sentence take they litel hede or els non.

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« Reply #26 on: January 21, 2019, 05:13:51 PM »
Many men there ben that with eeres openly sprad so moche swalowen the deliciousnesse of jestes and of ryme by queynt knitting coloures that of the goodnesse or of the badnesse of the sentence take they litel hede or els non.

Yeah see I have to read all the sentences three times and kinda say them to understand and I'm used to reading extremely fast, gets frustrating.
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« Reply #27 on: January 21, 2019, 06:26:58 PM »
Yeah see I have to read all the sentences three times and kinda say them to understand and I'm used to reading extremely fast, gets frustrating.

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« Reply #28 on: March 02, 2019, 04:41:36 AM »
Gothic Literature/Gothic Books: https://youtu.be/_fSYYbe5S5U

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« Reply #29 on: March 04, 2019, 07:35:37 AM »
Gothic Literature/Gothic Books: https://youtu.be/_fSYYbe5S5U
There are some interesting novels here. Have you read some of them?

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« Reply #30 on: March 04, 2019, 01:04:12 PM »
There are some interesting novels here. Have you read some of them?

I have read Dracula, The Legend of Sleepy Hollow, Poe, Carmilla, The House of the Seven Gables, The Picture of Dorian Gray, The Vampyre, Lovecraft and Frankenstein.

In my school I learned American and British literature. Irving, Poe, Hawthorne, The Picture of Dorian Gray and Frankenstein were required reading.

Frankenstein may be the most frightening horror fiction I have ever read.

Composed in competition with her husband, Lord Byron, and Dr. John William Polidori in an effort to prove supremacy in horror-making, Mrs. Shelley's Frankenstein was the only one of the rival narratives to be brought to an elaborate completion; and criticism has failed to prove that the best parts are due to Shelley rather than to her. The novel, somewhat tinged but scarcely marred by moral didacticism, tells of the artificial human being moulded from charnel fragments by Victor Frankenstein, a young Swiss medical student. Created by its designer "in the mad pride of intellectuality", the monster possesses full intelligence but owns a hideously loathsome form. It is rejected by mankind, becomes embittered, and at length begins the successive murder of all whom young Frankenstein loves best, friends and family. It demands that Frankenstein create a wife for it; and when the student finally refuses in horror lest the world be populated with such monsters, it departs with a hideous threat 'to be with him on his wedding night'. Upon that night the bride is strangled, and from that time on Frankenstein hunts down the monster, even into the wastes of the Arctic. In the end, whilst seeking shelter on the ship of the man who tells the story, Frankenstein himself is killed by the shocking object of his search and creation of his presumptuous pride. https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Supernatural_Horror_in_Literature/The_Aftermath_of_Gothic_Fiction

The Penny Dreadful portrayal of Victor Frankenstein was excellent: https://youtu.be/e0yaib5orEA

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« Reply #31 on: March 04, 2019, 01:50:34 PM »
They are! Especially the black riders and the dead faces in the water.
Yes :o
i think when i will write a book many will consider it a horror one when i will write down all the persecutions i have been subjected i will revealed all the names family addresses where they live...these bastards currently reading this in some obscure place shitbetpolice facility are right now  frightened to death

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« Reply #32 on: March 05, 2019, 03:19:38 AM »
I have read Dracula, The Legend of Sleepy Hollow, Poe, Carmilla, The House of the Seven Gables, The Picture of Dorian Gray, The Vampyre, Lovecraft and Frankenstein.

In my school I learned American and British literature. Irving, Poe, Hawthorne, The Picture of Dorian Gray and Frankenstein were required reading.

Frankenstein may be the most frightening horror fiction I have ever read.

Composed in competition with her husband, Lord Byron, and Dr. John William Polidori in an effort to prove supremacy in horror-making, Mrs. Shelley's Frankenstein was the only one of the rival narratives to be brought to an elaborate completion; and criticism has failed to prove that the best parts are due to Shelley rather than to her. The novel, somewhat tinged but scarcely marred by moral didacticism, tells of the artificial human being moulded from charnel fragments by Victor Frankenstein, a young Swiss medical student. Created by its designer "in the mad pride of intellectuality", the monster possesses full intelligence but owns a hideously loathsome form. It is rejected by mankind, becomes embittered, and at length begins the successive murder of all whom young Frankenstein loves best, friends and family. It demands that Frankenstein create a wife for it; and when the student finally refuses in horror lest the world be populated with such monsters, it departs with a hideous threat 'to be with him on his wedding night'. Upon that night the bride is strangled, and from that time on Frankenstein hunts down the monster, even into the wastes of the Arctic. In the end, whilst seeking shelter on the ship of the man who tells the story, Frankenstein himself is killed by the shocking object of his search and creation of his presumptuous pride. https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Supernatural_Horror_in_Literature/The_Aftermath_of_Gothic_Fiction

The Penny Dreadful portrayal of Victor Frankenstein was excellent: https://youtu.be/e0yaib5orEA
In some cartoons this monster is portrayed like cool and friendly guy. I never knew the full plot of Frankenstein, it is so tragic.

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« Reply #33 on: March 05, 2019, 04:17:37 AM »
In some cartoons this monster is portrayed like cool and friendly guy. I never knew the full plot of Frankenstein, it is so tragic.

Frankenstein has some of the most tragic sentences in British literature:

"I feel exquisite pleasure in dwelling on the recollections of childhood, before misfortune had tainted my mind and changed its bright visions of extensive usefulness into gloomy and narrow reflections upon self. Besides, in drawing the picture of my early days, I also record those events which led, by insensible steps, to my after tale of misery, for when I would account to myself for the birth of that passion which afterwards ruled my destiny I find it arise, like a mountain river, from ignoble and almost forgotten sources; but, swelling as it proceeded, it became the torrent which, in its course, has swept away all my hopes and joys. 

Thus strangely are our souls constructed, and by such slight ligaments are we bound to prosperity or ruin. When I look back, it seems to me as if this almost miraculous change of inclination and will was the immediate suggestion of the guardian angel of my life --the last effort made by the spirit of preservation to avert the storm that was even then hanging in the stars and ready to envelop me. Her victory was announced by an unusual tranquillity and gladness of soul which followed the relinquishing of my ancient and latterly tormenting studies. It was thus that I was to be taught to associate evil with their prosecution, happiness with their disregard.

It was a strong effort of the spirit of good, but it was ineffectual. Destiny was too potent, and her immutable laws had decreed my utter and terrible destruction.

The human frame could no longer support the agonies that I endured, and I was carried out of the room in strong convulsions. A fever succeeded to this. I lay for two months on the point of death; my ravings, as I afterwards heard, were frightful; I called myself the murderer of William, of Justine, and of Clerval. Sometimes I entreated my attendants to assist me in the destruction of the fiend by whom I was tormented; and at others I felt the fingers of the monster already grasping my neck, and screamed aloud with agony and terror. Fortunately, as I spoke my native language, Mr. Kirwin alone understood me; but my gestures and bitter cries were sufficient to affright the other witnesses. Why did I not die? More miserable than man ever was before, why did I not sink into forgetfulness and rest? Death snatches away many blooming children, the only hopes of their doting parents; how many brides and youthful lovers have been one day in the bloom of health and hope, and the next a prey for worms and the decay of the tomb! Of what materials was I made that I could thus resist so many shocks, which, like the turning of the wheel, continually renewed the torture?

Alas! My father, said I, how little do you know me. Human beings, their feelings and passions, would indeed be degraded if such a wretch as I felt pride. Justine, poor unhappy Justine, was as innocent as I, and she suffered the same charge; she died for it; and I am the cause of this--I murdered her. William, Justine, and Henry--they all died by my hands.

I am not mad, I cried energetically; the sun and the heavens, who have viewed my operations, can bear witness of my truth. I am the assassin of those most innocent victims; they died by my machinations. A thousand times would I have shed my own blood, drop by drop, to have saved their lives; but I could not, my father, indeed I could not sacrifice the whole human race.

You have travelled; you have spent several years of your life at Ingolstadt; and I confess to you, my friend, that when I saw you last autumn so unhappy, flying to solitude from the society of every creature, I could not help supposing that you might regret our connection and believe yourself bound in honour to fulfil the wishes of your parents, although they opposed themselves to your inclinations. But this is false reasoning. I confess to you, my friend, that I love you and that in my airy dreams of futurity you have been my constant friend and companion. But it is your happiness I desire as well as my own when I declare to you that our marriage would render me eternally miserable unless it were the dictate of your own free choice. Even now I weep to think that, borne down as you are by the cruellest misfortunes, you may stifle, by the word "honour," all hope of that love and happiness which would alone restore you to yourself. I, who have so disinterested an affection for you, may increase your miseries tenfold by being an obstacle to your wishes. Ah! Victor, be assured that your cousin and playmate has too sincere a love for you not to be made miserable by this supposition. Be happy, my friend; and if you obey me in this one request, remain satisfied that nothing on earth will have the power to interrupt my tranquillity.

Do not let this letter disturb you; do not answer tomorrow, or the next day, or even until you come, if it will give you pain. My uncle will send me news of your health, and if I see but one smile on your lips when we meet, occasioned by this or any other exertion of mine, I shall need no other happiness.

This letter revived in my memory what I had before forgotten, the threat of the fiend--I WILL BE WITH YOU ON YOUR WEDDING-NIGHT! Such was my sentence, and on that night would the daemon employ every art to destroy me and tear me from the glimpse of happiness which promised partly to console my sufferings. On that night he had determined to consummate his crimes by my death. Well, be it so; a deadly struggle would then assuredly take place, in which if he were victorious I should be at peace and his power over me be at an end. If he were vanquished, I should be a free man. Alas! What freedom? Such as the peasant enjoys when his family have been massacred before his eyes, his cottage burnt, his lands laid waste, and he is turned adrift, homeless, penniless, and alone, but free. Such would be my liberty except that in my Elizabeth I possessed a treasure, alas, balanced by those horrors of remorse and guilt which would pursue me until death.

Sweet and beloved Elizabeth! I read and reread her letter, and some softened feelings stole into my heart and dared to whisper paradisiacal dreams of love and joy; but the apple was already eaten, and the angel's arm bared to drive me from all hope. Yet I would die to make her happy. If the monster executed his threat, death was inevitable; yet, again, I considered whether my marriage would hasten my fate. My destruction might indeed arrive a few months sooner, but if my torturer should suspect that I postponed it, influenced by his menaces, he would surely find other and perhaps more dreadful means of revenge.

In this state of mind I wrote to Elizabeth. My letter was calm and affectionate. I fear, my beloved girl, I said, little happiness remains for us on earth; yet all that I may one day enjoy is centred in you. Chase away your idle fears; to you alone do I consecrate my life and my endeavours for contentment. I have one secret, Elizabeth, a dreadful one; when revealed to you, it will chill your frame with horror, and then, far from being surprised at my misery, you will only wonder that I survive what I have endured. I will confide this tale of misery and terror to you the day after our marriage shall take place, for, my sweet cousin, there must be perfect confidence between us. But until then, I conjure you, do not mention or allude to it. This I most earnestly entreat, and I know you will comply.

Those were the last moments of my life during which I enjoyed the feeling of happiness.

The wind, which had hitherto carried us along with amazing rapidity, sank at sunset to a light breeze; the soft air just ruffled the water and caused a pleasant motion among the trees as we approached the shore, from which it wafted the most delightful scent of flowers and hay. The sun sank beneath the horizon as we landed, and as I touched the shore I felt those cares and fears revive which soon were to clasp me and cling to me forever."

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Re: Horror literature
« Reply #34 on: March 07, 2019, 04:57:49 AM »
Yes :o
i think when i will write a book many will consider it a horror one when i will write down all the persecutions i have been subjected i will revealed all the names family addresses where they live...these bastards currently reading this in some obscure place shitbetpolice facility are right now  frightened to death

Good luck with the book! You should publicize evil persons and their evil deeds.

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« Reply #35 on: January 07, 2020, 04:38:32 AM »
The Penny Dreadful portrayal of Victor Frankenstein was excellent: https://youtu.be/e0yaib5orEA

Penny Dreadful was a barbeque and sing along with every horror character they could find, and more Catholic propaganda than supernatural. Didn't even get a laugh, watched all three seasons, just really boring.
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« Reply #36 on: January 07, 2020, 05:04:58 AM »
Penny Dreadful was a barbeque and sing along with every horror character they could find, and more Catholic propaganda than supernatural. Didn't even get a laugh, watched all three seasons, just really boring.

It amuses me that you felt the need to comment just to tell me it's boring.

I find most women boring. I want a woman who dresses like Vanessa Ives, but who is a Noahide. I might be doomed to bachelorhood. 

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« Reply #37 on: January 07, 2020, 05:13:38 AM »
It amuses me that you felt the need to comment just to tell me it's boring.

I find most women boring. I want a woman who dresses like Vanessa Ives, but who is a Noahide. I might be doomed to bachelorhood.

Just saying, part of the reason why I refuse to pay for anything from hollywood. They took perfectly good horror stories and made it tame and cute. The best they got was the blood orgy and that wasn't scary.

I couldn't give a crap how a girl dresses for the amigos and homeboys on the street. What do you gain from that? I know guys who tell me things like her nails are important, and it's quite baffling to me, there are way more important areas on her.

I guess many girls will want to talk about fashion and other things you might not have a reason to care about, but guys aren't supposed to spend their days talking to girls either, they find us boring to a point too. What we have in common we talk about, for the rest they have friends. There are gender neutral topics that are of consequence in the world to speak of. Besides, half the time it's how you say what you say and the thousand implications and the colored flags they raise for mundane things, it's a fun challenge to communicate like that a bit.
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« Reply #38 on: January 07, 2020, 05:27:00 AM »
Just saying, part of the reason why I refuse to pay for anything from hollywood. They took perfectly good horror stories and made it tame and cute. The best they got was the blood orgy and that wasn't scary.

I couldn't give a crap how a girl dresses for the amigos and homeboys on the street. What do you gain from that? I know guys who tell me things like her nails are important, and it's quite baffling to me, there are way more important areas on her.

I guess many girls will want to talk about fashion and other things you might not have a reason to care about, but guys aren't supposed to spend their days talking to girls either, they find us boring to a point too. What we have in common we talk about, for the rest they have friends. There are gender neutral topics that are of consequence in the world to speak of. Besides, half the time it's how you say what you say and the thousand implications and the colored flags they raise for mundane things, it's a fun challenge to communicate like that a bit.

How a woman dresses is certainly important. I like gothic fashion and horror. It would kill me to have a wife who hates these things.   

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« Reply #39 on: January 07, 2020, 10:42:02 AM »
How a woman dresses is certainly important. I like gothic fashion and horror. It would kill me to have a wife who hates these things.   

And if she's the hottest girl ever and just wants to be super modest and covered outside? Say she doesn't like horror but doesn't care if you want to watch it?
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« Reply #40 on: January 07, 2020, 11:28:02 AM »
And if she's the hottest girl ever and just wants to be super modest and covered outside? Say she doesn't like horror but doesn't care if you want to watch it?

That's fine. My ex tried to change me and I will never let a woman do that.

It would be easier for me to marry a Jewish woman, but I know that is strictly forbidden and not an option. Like you said, Hashem never makes it easy.

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« Reply #41 on: January 07, 2020, 01:28:26 PM »
That's fine. My ex tried to change me and I will never let a woman do that.

It would be easier for me to marry a Jewish woman, but I know that is strictly forbidden and not an option. Like you said, Hashem never makes it easy.

There's a fine line between changing and nesting. On Rabbi recommends you use half of your stuff; fill all your drawers halfway, leave half of your bathroom stuff on one side, everything leave a space the same you give yourself so there's room for a woman in your life, and then when you get married, G-d willing it should be very very soon, you don't feel like anything changes. If a girl really loves to change people, then like tell her you want her to dress in full Ms. Ives at home and changes you want, she'll either realize changing people isn't fun or you have a tit-for-tat that is mutually acceptable.

There's a facebook group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/19240199247/ maybe invite your Noachide friends to join and get them to do the same so it's a bigger pool. There's literally no website devoted to it, I say there's a market opening there if you know an app developer. I think you're supposed to be Noachide for the laws and not the in-laws like Rav Kahane said about converts to Judaism, but if there were articles saying how great of a spouse a Noachide makes instead of like any idolater, maybe that'll grow the movement more. Probably tell your Rabbi to start publishing articles.
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« Reply #42 on: January 14, 2020, 08:40:15 PM »
There's a fine line between changing and nesting. On Rabbi recommends you use half of your stuff; fill all your drawers halfway, leave half of your bathroom stuff on one side, everything leave a space the same you give yourself so there's room for a woman in your life, and then when you get married, G-d willing it should be very very soon, you don't feel like anything changes. If a girl really loves to change people, then like tell her you want her to dress in full Ms. Ives at home and changes you want, she'll either realize changing people isn't fun or you have a tit-for-tat that is mutually acceptable.

There's a facebook group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/19240199247/ maybe invite your Noachide friends to join and get them to do the same so it's a bigger pool. There's literally no website devoted to it, I say there's a market opening there if you know an app developer. I think you're supposed to be Noachide for the laws and not the in-laws like Rav Kahane said about converts to Judaism, but if there were articles saying how great of a spouse a Noachide makes instead of like any idolater, maybe that'll grow the movement more. Probably tell your Rabbi to start publishing articles.

Thank you for the advice and the kind wishes, brother.

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« Reply #43 on: January 14, 2020, 09:46:09 PM »
Thank you for the advice and the kind wishes, brother.

Yeah I'm there too, like keep your advice and give a blessing somewhere it does something, I said it, I get it if you're doing it here.

I don't know a way out. Some people die alone. It's hard enough to find a girl that matches you just out of everyone, when you're narrowing it down to a subsection of people, ten thousand times harder. No idea what to do. I really want to be able to give advice that does something. I remember we talked on this before and I brought up the stupid facebook group with five people and your negative experience. I feel you, that's how hard it was for me too and I research things for money, really tough.

I wish I had the words to make everything all better, I would throw them around till my tongue fell out. Since I'm not there to like take you to club or hotel lobby and cruise as many as possible for you, all I have is these little letters in this stupid box, so I wish my strength on you to take the path you want and G-d willing you should be blessed with the best mazal (I want to translate it as flow) to fulfill all your needs and wants.
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« Reply #44 on: September 17, 2021, 09:20:12 PM »
The Nameless City by H. P. Lovecraft: https://www.hplovecraft.com/writings/texts/fiction/nc.aspx

The Nox Arcana music inspired by the story: https://youtu.be/RRWw7R_J3xM

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« Reply #45 on: September 18, 2021, 07:12:47 PM »
The Devil and Tom Walker by Washington Irving: https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Devil_Stories/The_Devil_and_Tom_Walker

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« Reply #46 on: September 19, 2021, 12:47:27 PM »
The Masque of the Red Death by Edgar Allan Poe: https://poestories.com/read/masque

Nox Arcana's music adaptation: https://youtu.be/HwieZqoWstM
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« Reply #47 on: October 02, 2021, 05:27:38 AM »
The Legend of Sleepy Hollow by Washington Irving: https://www.bartleby.com/310/2/2.html

Tim Burton's film adaptation: https://youtu.be/6RsKwn_Je1k

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« Reply #48 on: October 06, 2021, 06:07:31 AM »
The Fall of the House of Usher by Edgar Allan Poe: https://www.eapoe.org/works/tales/usherf.htm

Nox Arcana's music adaptation: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUaC2kDfMwo

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« Reply #49 on: October 07, 2021, 11:54:20 AM »
Samotna noć by Antun Gustav Matoš: https://www.knjizevnost.hr/samotna-noc/