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Tzvi Ben Roshel1:

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--- Quote from: Tzvi Ben Roshel on September 24, 2007, 12:13:36 AM ---I was wondering are non-Jews supposed to keep kosher (dont jump on me right away), Im asking because killing an animal the kosher way is the least painfull way of dieng, and non-Jews except for muslims dont kill the animals by cutting its throat. I even heard that animals are electricuted, is that true? So with that said since the kosher or halal way is more human do non-Jews have to do it that way?

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Well, if you kill the animal by yourself, it is better that you cut it's neck, even if you do not do it in the Jewish ritual way. If you buy it in the butcher's, you can eat any meat, as far you are sure it was not torn from the animal still alive. I'd rather be carefull with blood. Gentiles are not bound to clean the meat from residual blood, but some say it's wrong to intentionally eat the blood that comes out of a dying animal, as it is still alive. So better avoid blood sausage and so on. And be carefull with some fast food. Some hamburguers are added plasma from blood extracted from a living animal.
And if you don't trust a Gentile butcher.....then you can buy kosher meat. There's no problem

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I personally only eat glatt kosher (im Jewish) but was just wondering about the noahide way.

Lubab:

--- Quote from: Raulmarrio2000 on September 23, 2007, 08:31:20 PM ---Does anyone know about traces of the Noahide Covenant among Peoples who have not received the word of the Torah given at Mount Sinai? The Noahide Covenant existed since 700 years before the Torah was given, but it was almost forgotten by most nations, and was only rediscovered when Moshe received the Torah. So all Noahides today derive their Commandments from the Torah. However, there are traces of the history of the Mabul in Peoples who do not know the Torah. Ancient Greeks knew a distorted version of the Flood, some African tribes too. Many other nations know at least some of the seven Laws.
And what about animals? They are suppossed to have no soul, and no free will, but what about these verses?

Bereshit 9:
(5) And surely your blood of your lives will I require; at the hand of every beast will I require it; and at the hand of man, even at the hand of every man's brother, will I require the life of man.

(12) And G-d said: 'This is the token of the covenant which I make between Me and you and every living creature that is with you, for perpetual generations:

(15) that I will remember My covenant, which is between Me and you and every living creature of all flesh; and the waters shall no more become a flood to destroy all flesh.

(16) And the bow shall be in the cloud; and I will look upon it, that I may remember the everlasting covenant between G-d and every living creature of all flesh that is upon the earth.'

(17) And G-d said unto Noah: 'This is the token of the covenant which I have established between Me and all flesh that is upon the earth.'

These verses seem to indicate that the Covenant includes animals, they will be pusnished in case of killing a man, and they are also promised that there will no more flood. Most Animals avoid eating flesh from another living animal, and kill it before eating. What do you think of it?

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Animals have souls. They are alive right?

They just have animal souls not human souls. They do not have free choice the way that people do.

But sometimes people start to act like animals and they start losing their free choice.

Gentiles should try to eat Kosher meat only because they can be assured that way that it is not meat torn from live flesh. Non-kosher butchers often use a shocking process that runs afoul of that.

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