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Tzvi Ben Roshel1:

--- Quote from: Tzvi Ben Roshel on October 10, 2007, 03:20:25 PM ---even option #1 is tricky (at least for the Syrian Sefardim as I have heard) someone who only has a Jewish mother I believe isnt necessarily encouraged to be Jewish and isnt accpeted in some schools (in order to show that the act his mother did was dispicable).

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May a Yeshiva Accept a Child Born to a Jewish Mother and Non-Jewish Father? 
   
The question was posed to Rabbi Moshe Feinstein (Russia-New York, 1895-1986) whether a Yeshiva may accept a child born to a mixed marriage, where the mother is Jewish but the father is not. According to Halacha, the child's status in such a case follows the mother, and therefore the child is a full-fledged Jew. But is there any reason for a Yeshiva to refuse to accept such a child, or for a congregation not to allow this child to observe his Bar Mitzva in their synagogue?

Rabbi Feinstein ruled (Iggerot Moshe, O.C. 2:73) that a Yeshiva should not accept a child born to a mixed marriage, and a congregation should not agree to host the Bar Mitzva celebration of such a child. Accepting the child in the Yeshiva or hosting his Bar Mitzva celebration may easily be misconstrued as implicit approval of his parents' lifestyle. In order to firmly establish the Torah's strict opposition to intermarriage, Yeshivot should not accept children from mixed marriages, and synagogues should not host Bar Mitzva celebrations of such children.

Needless to say, if the mother performs Teshuva, then clearly the Yeshiva or synagogue should welcome the child, even though he had been born to a non-jewish father. It should be noted that certain communities (for example the Syrian Sephardic Community in Brooklyn New York) are strict in all these situations no to accept.

http://dailyhalacha.com/displayRead.asp?readID=1355&txtSearch=non-jewish%20father

Mstislav:

--- Quote from: Tzvi Ben Roshel on October 10, 2007, 03:27:14 PM ---
--- Quote from: Tzvi Ben Roshel on October 10, 2007, 03:20:25 PM ---even option #1 is tricky (at least for the Syrian Sefardim as I have heard) someone who only has a Jewish mother I believe isnt necessarily encouraged to be Jewish and isnt accpeted in some schools (in order to show that the act his mother did was dispicable).

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May a Yeshiva Accept a Child Born to a Jewish Mother and Non-Jewish Father? 
   
The question was posed to Rabbi Moshe Feinstein (Russia-New York, 1895-1986) whether a Yeshiva may accept a child born to a mixed marriage, where the mother is Jewish but the father is not. According to Halacha, the child's status in such a case follows the mother, and therefore the child is a full-fledged Jew. But is there any reason for a Yeshiva to refuse to accept such a child, or for a congregation not to allow this child to observe his Bar Mitzva in their synagogue?

Rabbi Feinstein ruled (Iggerot Moshe, O.C. 2:73) that a Yeshiva should not accept a child born to a mixed marriage, and a congregation should not agree to host the Bar Mitzva celebration of such a child. Accepting the child in the Yeshiva or hosting his Bar Mitzva celebration may easily be misconstrued as implicit approval of his parents' lifestyle. In order to firmly establish the Torah's strict opposition to intermarriage, Yeshivot should not accept children from mixed marriages, and synagogues should not host Bar Mitzva celebrations of such children.

Needless to say, if the mother performs Teshuva, then clearly the Yeshiva or synagogue should welcome the child, even though he had been born to a non-jewish father. It should be noted that certain communities (for example the Syrian Sephardic Community in Brooklyn New York) are strict in all these situations not to accept.

http://dailyhalacha.com/displayRead.asp?readID=1355&txtSearch=non-jewish%20father


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What if the father makes a sincere conversion to Judaism either before or after marriage, before or after the birth of any children?

Tzvi Ben Roshel1:

--- Quote from: Mstislav on October 20, 2007, 08:20:13 PM ---
--- Quote from: Tzvi Ben Roshel on October 10, 2007, 03:27:14 PM ---
--- Quote from: Tzvi Ben Roshel on October 10, 2007, 03:20:25 PM ---even option #1 is tricky (at least for the Syrian Sefardim as I have heard) someone who only has a Jewish mother I believe isnt necessarily encouraged to be Jewish and isnt accpeted in some schools (in order to show that the act his mother did was dispicable).

--- End quote ---

May a Yeshiva Accept a Child Born to a Jewish Mother and Non-Jewish Father? 
   
The question was posed to Rabbi Moshe Feinstein (Russia-New York, 1895-1986) whether a Yeshiva may accept a child born to a mixed marriage, where the mother is Jewish but the father is not. According to Halacha, the child's status in such a case follows the mother, and therefore the child is a full-fledged Jew. But is there any reason for a Yeshiva to refuse to accept such a child, or for a congregation not to allow this child to observe his Bar Mitzva in their synagogue?

Rabbi Feinstein ruled (Iggerot Moshe, O.C. 2:73) that a Yeshiva should not accept a child born to a mixed marriage, and a congregation should not agree to host the Bar Mitzva celebration of such a child. Accepting the child in the Yeshiva or hosting his Bar Mitzva celebration may easily be misconstrued as implicit approval of his parents' lifestyle. In order to firmly establish the Torah's strict opposition to intermarriage, Yeshivot should not accept children from mixed marriages, and synagogues should not host Bar Mitzva celebrations of such children.

Needless to say, if the mother performs Teshuva, then clearly the Yeshiva or synagogue should welcome the child, even though he had been born to a non-jewish father. It should be noted that certain communities (for example the Syrian Sephardic Community in Brooklyn New York) are strict in all these situations not to accept.

http://dailyhalacha.com/displayRead.asp?readID=1355&txtSearch=non-jewish%20father


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What if the father makes a sincere conversion to Judaism either before or after marriage, before or after the birth of any children?

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I dont know, but its sad that it has come to this point where we are asking these questions.

Mstislav:

--- Quote from: Tzvi Ben Roshel on October 10, 2007, 03:20:25 PM ---I dont know, but its sad that it has come to this point where we are asking these questions.

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It is also sad that the child is shunned from the Jewish community although s/he is Jewish through the mother's side or by conversion. Is it not the goal to give the children Jewish upbringings?

q_q_:

--- Quote from: MarZutra on October 03, 2007, 09:19:12 AM ---Gen 17:13 my friend...  I'm not sure which comes first the "mother" or the Brit Milah. 
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fairly obvious!!
It`s not exactly chicken or egg!

Assuming his mother is jewish, then he is.   He should consult ****an orthodox rabbi***  chabad are a good idea they are all over the place.  Do not fall into the reform/liberal/conservative/reconstructionist trap.

I personally have a dozen rabbis that I like, and  one or two that I don`t like. You can "shop around", but stay within  Orthodox.  The rest are a scam, and do not believe the Torah is divinely revealed. One wonders why they the reform call themselves rabbis, but that`s another story. Any Orthodox rabbi, especially Rabbi Kahane was highly critical of reform/conservative/..


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