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Re: It is ironic that Neturei Karta's hero/martyr was a homo
« Reply #1 on: April 29, 2020, 12:23:19 PM »
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacob_Israël_de_Haan

Imo we have it to do with a full grown homo rebellion against God.
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Re: It is ironic that Neturei Karta's hero/martyr was a homo
« Reply #2 on: April 29, 2020, 04:33:31 PM »
No NK library is complete without his books.

In 1904, while living in Amsterdam, he wrote the novel Pijpelijntjes ("Lines from De Pijp"), which pretends to be a thinly veiled version of his own gay life with Aletrino in Amsterdam's "Pijp" working-class district. The homo-eroticism of the book, shocking to readers in the early 20th century, led to his dismissal from his teaching job and social-democratic political circles. Aletrino and Johanna van Maarseveen, de Haan's fiancée, bought almost the entire print run of the book, to keep a lid on the scandal.[3]

In 1907 he married van Maarseveen, a non-Jewish doctor, but this marriage is likely to have been platonic; they separated in 1919 but never officially divorced. A second novel, Pathologieën (1908, "Pathologies"), again contrary to the mores of its day, described the sorrows and joys of a sadomasochist relationship. However, this book went largely unnoticed, as did De Haan's prose sketches. He published five volumes of poems between 1914 and 1921 that brought him some acclaim.
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Re: It is ironic that Neturei Karta's hero/martyr was a homo
« Reply #3 on: April 30, 2020, 01:38:25 AM »
No NK library is complete without his books.

In 1904, while living in Amsterdam, he wrote the novel Pijpelijntjes ("Lines from De Pijp"), which pretends to be a thinly veiled version of his own gay life with Aletrino in Amsterdam's "Pijp" working-class district. The homo-eroticism of the book, shocking to readers in the early 20th century, led to his dismissal from his teaching job and social-democratic political circles. Aletrino and Johanna van Maarseveen, de Haan's fiancée, bought almost the entire print run of the book, to keep a lid on the scandal.[3]

In 1907 he married van Maarseveen, a non-Jewish doctor, but this marriage is likely to have been platonic; they separated in 1919 but never officially divorced. A second novel, Pathologieën (1908, "Pathologies"), again contrary to the mores of its day, described the sorrows and joys of a sadomasochist relationship. However, this book went largely unnoticed, as did De Haan's prose sketches. He published five volumes of poems between 1914 and 1921 that brought him some acclaim.

This was somebody who was seriously corrupted and degenerated.

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In one of his poems he asks himself whether his visits to the Wailing Wall were motivated by a desire for God or for the Arab boys there.[8]
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Re: It is ironic that Neturei Karta's hero/martyr was a homo
« Reply #4 on: April 30, 2020, 06:29:49 PM »
They already break shabbat to protest Israel, supporting someone antithetical to Torah values to protest Israel is exactly what you expect them to do. Everyone's mad the Chabad guy had mixed dancing in this kiruv. NK would have naked fire and snake belly dancers and free cocaine if they could use it to encourage the murder of just one Jew.
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Re: It is ironic that Neturei Karta's hero/martyr was a homo
« Reply #5 on: April 30, 2020, 09:53:51 PM »
 :usa+israel:                                                                             :fist:

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Re: It is ironic that Neturei Karta's hero/martyr was a homo
« Reply #6 on: May 01, 2020, 12:13:46 AM »
LOL wow.  I had never heard of this guy before.  This is crazy!

He was literally made the spokesperson for pre-state Haredi antizionism and a leadership role within Aguda.  I guess if he's a depraved homosexual predator who wants to help the arabs destroy any hope of a Jewish homeland, but if he communicates well that qualifies for Haredi establishment leadership position.

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he became the political spokesman of the Haredim in Jerusalem and was elected political secretary of the Orthodox community council, Vaad Ha'ir...

The secular Zionist establishment would not allow the established Haredi community in Palestine to be represented in the Jewish Agency in the 1920s[citation needed]. In response, the Haredim founded an Agudat Israel branch in Jerusalem to represent their interests in Mandate Palestine. The leader of the Haredi Jews in Palestine at the time, Rabbi Yosef Chaim Sonnenfeld chose de Haan to organize and represent the Haredi position as their foreign minister,[10] on a diplomatic level equal to that of the secular Zionists.

Wow

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In Neturei Karta circles De Haan is considered a martyr,...

During the 1980s, the Neturei Karta community in Jerusalem tried to change the name of the Zupnik Garden to commemorate De Haan.

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Re: It is ironic that Neturei Karta's hero/martyr was a homo
« Reply #7 on: May 01, 2020, 05:33:20 AM »
They already break shabbat to protest Israel, supporting someone antithetical to Torah values to protest Israel is exactly what you expect them to do. Everyone's mad the Chabad guy had mixed dancing in this kiruv. NK would have naked fire and snake belly dancers and free cocaine if they could use it to encourage the murder of just one Jew.
If you mean Shlomo Carlebach he was no longer connected with Chabad when he was doing this

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Re: It is ironic that Neturei Karta's hero/martyr was a homo
« Reply #8 on: May 01, 2020, 02:53:33 PM »
If you mean Shlomo Carlebach he was no longer connected with Chabad when he was doing this

Well then even his whatever group of just him, he's not hiring Holland's red light district for kiruv, while NK would expel him if he could do that and hurt Israel and decided not to.
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