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How the Mideast conflict is perceived in Saudi Arabia.
« on: May 09, 2020, 08:35:23 PM »
https://www.maariv.co.il/journalists/opinions/Article-764207
My country is the biggest supporter of the Palestinians, but they do not stop cursing it
The population of Palestine is an opportunistic minority, their leaders are ungrateful and ungrateful, and they end up falling. A Saudi scholar writes what the conflict looks like these days. Special for Maariv
Abdel Razak al-Qusi 05/09/2020

In the ancient world, Palestine was on a crossroads of trade routes. That is why kings and emperors coveted it, and therefore no independent state was established in its territory , except for the kingdoms of Judah. At the beginning of the 20th century, the struggle for control of Palestine began, which was then under British rule. The Arabs were the majority in these lands and beside them lived a Jewish minority, who lived there even before the Arabs. Increased immigration and settlement of Jews in the country intensified the confrontation.

The Jews had intentions of establishing a state. They were there, in Palestine, even before the new waves of immigration.The Canaanites came from the Arabian Peninsula to Palestine between 2500 and 3000 BC. In 1250 BCE, Israel took over parts of the land of Canaan. In 928 BC, King Solomon erected the temple in Jerusalem, and in that year his kingdom was divided between Judea and Israel. And destroyed the temple.

In 539 BC the Persians took control of Babylon and allowed the Jews to rebuild the Second Temple. In 333 BCE, Alexander the Great took over Persia's provinces and put Palestine under Greek rule. Next came the Egyptian Ptolemy House and Syrian Saljuks. In 165 BC, the Maccabees established a Jewish state, and in 63 BC, Palestine passed into the Roman Empire, up to 324 AD. Then the Byzantines (now in Greece) took over during the reign of Emperor Constantine, and held it until 636.Then the Arabs seized power in Palestine, and it was placed under Islamic sovereignty. In 1099 the Crusaders captured it, and in 1187 the Arabs returned to them.

In 1516, the Ottomans ruled Palestine and divided it into five Sanjukim (districts): Jerusalem, Gaza, Safed, Nablus and Megiddo. On September 11, 1922, the League of Nations ratified the British Mandate on Palestine, which included the east Jordan. Jerusalem was set as its capital, where the British Commissioner and his government institutions sat.Britain acted to implement the Balfour Declaration and allowed the Jews to emigrate and get hold of the land, all the way to the mid-1930s.

Then she began to stop the Jewish immigration to Palestine and prevent them from acquiring land. Tensions between Arabs and Jews increased, and at its peak, in 1936, the Palestinians declared the Great Palestinian Revolution. In an attempt to resolve the Arab-Jewish conflict, the United Nations assembled a committee of representatives of its permanent companies.On May 14, 1948, Britain withdrew from Palestine, and the Jews announced the establishment of the State of Israel.

The United Nations and the Powers recognized it, but Palestinian Arabs did not establish their own state. Egypt entered the Gaza Strip in 1948, and Jordan - the West Bank. They caused Jews to emigrate from their countries, increasing the Jewish population of Israel at the expense of the Palestinians. In addition, the Arab states encouraged the Palestinians to leave their land and set up camps for them. They launched a series of wars, all of which ended in the defeat of the Arabs and the loss of additional land, which doubled Israel's territory.The Palestinians also failed to deal with the situation in a beneficial way. Despite the partition decision, they did not establish a UN-recognized state or serve as a legitimate representative. Many emigrated to Lebanon and Jordan, where they were left to live in camps.

The Palestinians, on the one hand, and not stop the Israeli attacks on the other. Because of the Palestinians, Lebanon found itself in a civil war. Israeli forces invaded Lebanon more than once, managed to disarm the PLO and disarm it. To this day, Lebanon suffers from the presence of the Palestinians, who, on their part, have tried several times to make a coup in Jordan and take power.

The Palestinians found themselves scattered between rival states and failed to establish a state for themselves, or to find peace in the State of Israel or the Arab countries that hosted them. vice versa. They began hijacking planes to remind the world of their problem, and even abandoned Kuwait during the Iraqi occupation.In 1988, the Palestinian state was declared unilaterally at the meeting of the Palestinian National Council in Algeria. There was no expression on the ground. In 1994, the Palestinian Authority was established on the foundations of the Oslo agreement of 1993, signed between Israel and the PLO. Soon, separated Gaza from the Palestinian Authority and established a rival government. If so, the history of the conflict between Arabs and Jews is very long. Here I should point out a few notes. 

Arab countries have fought In Israel to be removed from the world. And why did the Arab states push the Jews who lived there to emigrate? After all, Israel benefits from them, and has grown stronger across Arab countries. Who encouraged the Palestinians to abandon their land and live in camps? Is not he who made promises to them, not the one who forgot them?The Palestinians could set up a state for themselves in 1948, which the UN would recognize. Why not do it? What were the obstacles?

The PA was divided into two rival political entities. Most Islamic countries recognize the Palestinian Authority as a state, but not the UN. In other words, if the PA disappears, the international community is under no obligation to re-establish it. Gaza is no longer just a population concentration, and Hamas will continue to rule the Gaza Strip as a reward for its leading role in the elimination of the Palestinian problem.In the first place, the Palestinians did not realize that their issue was only their business. In the first place, they could solve it without relying on others, such as the Arab states, the Levant camp, Iran and Turkey, which only added to their dispersal and failure.

The Palestinian leadership, without exception, has benefited greatly from the assistance provided by the various states. The Palestinian issue has become a hen laying golden eggs. They did not excel in the development momentum needed by the West Bank and the Gaza Strip, making the lives of Palestinians distressed and suffering compared to Palestinians with Israeli passports. These are the failures of the leaders throughout history. The Arab states supported the Palestinians at the expense of their needs and their peoples, and found themselves in long-standing struggles with their neighbor, the powers and covert forces that worked to destroy these countries.Saudi Arabia has been the biggest supporter of the Palestinians over the years, and yet it is viewed as a treacherous enemy.

The Palestinians, on their proxies, do not hesitate to scorn and bully the Saudi people and their rulers, throw the Saudi flag on the ground, tread and spit on it, and even if the Saudi support ceases, the authority will collapse within days.The Arab states in Palestine used slogans with an opportunism. If they were treated the same way they do in the Arab population of Turkey's occupied Iskandron district, or the Ahwaz Arabs in Iran, and the Arabs of Chad and Eritrea, the situation of the Arabs would not be as it is today.Can the Palestinians live in peace with the Jews, like the Arabs living with them in '48, and like the Ahwazis in Iran, or the citizens of Iskandron? If aid to the Palestinians had been stopped, the power relations would have changed, as would the statements. But do the Palestinians deserve all this support? Palestine Arabs are a minority of no more than one percent of Arabs.

Despite this, the Arabs paid for this failed and opportunistic minority.In 1947, a decision was made to divide Palestinian land into two states. Arabic and Jewish. The Jews declared their state in 1948, but the Palestinians did not. The UN recognized the State of the Jews, and from that moment on, the Palestinians began to lose time. If, in 1948, a country called the "Republic of the Eastern Mediterranean" was established, which does not have a Jewish majority, would the Arabs have been disgraced to fight it? I think not. Its status was the failure of the islands of Sauta and Melaya, or like the Ahwaz region and Ishendron district.
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Re: How the Mideast conflict is perceived in Saudi Arabia.
« Reply #1 on: May 10, 2020, 06:57:11 PM »
Saudi Arabia has changed since a few years to the better. I was myself surprised. It came directly with Donald Trump.

My theory is, that Demonrats fueled the terrorism and the totalitarism all over the world. The last big idea was the Arab Spring. They are a little bit like Satan. If I see how they copy the texts from NYT to Haaretz to Spiegel to Al Jasira. It is all the same world wide.

I wish Saudi Arabia well.

And the positive development of SA, was directly fought by the Washington Post and their author Kashoggi, who even hired people to make trouble in the Saudi social media. Salman killed him. He has done the right thing.

Where are the terrorists now? Only in Iran and in their allied formations in Syria, Lebanon and Irak. From the Sunni terrorist you hear only: Killed. Hope so the same soon to the Schiite terrorists.
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Re: How the Mideast conflict is perceived in Saudi Arabia.
« Reply #2 on: May 12, 2020, 06:18:05 PM »
""Republic of the Eastern Mediterranean" was established"

This is an ignorant statement. Islamic law makes it abomination for them to lose land in war. If that republic was muslim, they'd fight it from time to time as they do each other, if it was not, they'd come out to kill it, admittedly with less fanatical hatred than with a Jewish state. It's a statement that they only want to destroy Israel because it's Jewish, so partially true and the real argument there does undermine their "struggle" to murder each other and others. However, Islam is interested in global domination, so anything that retards the muslim fantasy where everyone else but them is dead is going to be abomination to the religion, and get muslims everywhere rallied.
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