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Re: Human coronaviruses were first identified in the mid-1960s
« Reply #125 on: March 25, 2020, 03:19:56 PM »
My cousin lost her sense of smell from china virus. Apparently that happens. Also really bad headache in the back of her head, which may possibly be from stress. G-d willing she makes a complete recovery.
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Re: Human coronaviruses were first identified in the mid-1960s
« Reply #126 on: March 26, 2020, 10:48:35 PM »
More good news. Projected death totals have been significantly reduced.
https://www.redstate.com/bonchie/2020/03/26/the-imperial-college-study-thats-formed-the-basis-of-so-much-panic-just-got-revised-down-significantly/

The Imperial College Study That’s Formed the Basis of So Much Panic Just Got Revised Down Significantly

Posted at 1:15 pm on March 26, 2020 by Bonchie

    The Imperial College Study That's Formed the Basis of So Much Panic Just Got Revised Down Significantly

Men in protective gear arrive to disinfect a construction site on 42nd St., Friday, March 20, 2020, in New York. New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo is ordering all workers in non-essential businesses to stay home and banning gatherings statewide. “Only essential businesses can have workers commuting to the job or on the job,” Cuomo said of an executive order he will sign Friday. Nonessential gatherings of individuals of any size or for any reason are canceled or postponed. (AP Photo/Mary Altaffer)

This is big news, as the Imperial College Study has formed the basis for nearly all the panic in the Western world over the Wuhan virus.

Today, the leading researcher on that study has revised his numbers to show dramatic drops in his estimates of deaths and the number of ICU beds needed to tackle the crisis. This comes after he had previously shown up to 2 million dead in the United States and 500,000 dead in the United Kingdom.

Now, I’m gonna try to be fair here, because there are two ways to look at this.

One, you can say the situation simply changed. His original range was based on countries essentially doing nothing to combat the Wuhan virus. No quarantines for the sick, no increase in hospital capacity, and no restrictions on public gatherings. When taken that way, perhaps you can’t blame Ferguson for being so wrong?

Yet, I also think we can’t ignore the responsibility he and his team held in releasing such a doomsday number in the first place. When his report was first put out, countries were already taking dramatic measures to stop the spread and gather the resources to treat the sick. What was the point of throwing crazy death totals out in the open when they were never really possible outside of some alternate reality where no one does anything? This is especially true when you consider that Ferguson had no idea what the actual infection or death rates were at the time of his first study.

And we know exactly what happened in response to those claims. The mainstream media went absolutely nuts with the high end of the range released, to this day still bandying about the “millions will die” claim without a thought as to whether the original data put into the model wasn’t viable. While Ferguson may have simply been making worst case scenario predictions, there are serious questions on whether it was responsible to release that into the wild without doing the necessary legwork to correct the misconceptions of what the study meant. Further, he was saying just last week that an 18 month quarantine would be necessary. Mitigation efforts have not changed dramatically in the last week. National lock downs started, in some cases, months ago.

Meanwhile, measures taken based on that flawed study have now put 3.3 million Americans out of work.

It’s time to have a serious discussion about whether the cure is worse than the disease right now. Unemployment numbers like this are going to spike deaths by suicide and drug abuse. They will also lead to deaths via lack of care, housing, and necessities. These are real lives being affected. It’s not enough to just say “stay home or grandma will die.”

The solution is likely somewhere in the middle between what we are doing now and doing nothing. It’s possible to social distance and slow the spread without shutting the entire economy down. Places like New York may need to stay locked down, but other localities may be able to get back to normal much faster. The President is on the right track, despite objections from some, in wanting to get Americans back to work. Let’s come up with a real plan to do that and do it soon. Sitting paralyzed is not going to help more people than it hurts in the long term.
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Re: Human coronaviruses were first identified in the mid-1960s
« Reply #127 on: March 27, 2020, 06:12:57 PM »
https://www.frontpagemag.com/point/2020/03/road-coronavirus-hell-was-paved-leftist-political-daniel-greenfield/


The Road to Coronavirus Hell Was Paved By Leftist Political Correctness
Fri Mar 27, 2020 Daniel Greenfield
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The New York Times, which in the middle of a diseased city, decided to run this hateful little screed, "The Road to Coronavirus Hell Was Paved by Evangelicals  —  Trump's response to the pandemic has been haunted by the science denialism of his ultraconservative religious allies."

Please, tell me. Which Trumpist evangelical ally runs New York City? What about San Francisco, Washington State?

We already know the "science denialism" that led to outbreaks in ultra-blue urban areas. It had nothing to do with religion and everything to do with politically correct opposition to travel bans or avoiding people from hot zones.

    On January 26, New York City’s health commissioner, Dr. Oxiris Barbot, warned, “It’s inevitable that we will have someone who is positive with coronavirus.” She also said, “We are encouraging New Yorkers to go about their everyday lives and suggest practicing everyday precautions that we do through the flu season.” She added that those “who had recently traveled from Wuhan were not being urged to self-quarantine or avoid large public gatherings

    Health Commissioner Barbot tweeted, “As we gear up to celebrate the Lunar New Year in NYC, I want to assure New Yorkers that there is no reason for anyone to change their holiday plans, avoid the subway, or certain parts of the city because of coronavirus.”

    Health Commissioner Barbot declared on Twitter, “Today our city is celebrating the Lunar New Year parade in Chinatown, a beautiful cultural tradition with a rich history in our city. I want to remind everyone to enjoy the parade and not change any plans due to misinformation spreading about coronavirus.”

    Councilman Mark D. Levine stated on Twitter, “In powerful show of defiance of coronavirus scare, huge crowds gathering in NYC’s Chinatown for ceremony ahead of annual Lunar New Year parade. Chants of ‘Be Strong Wuhan!’ If you are staying away, you are missing out.

    Mayor de Blasio conducted a taped interview with NBC News that ran during MSNBC’s Morning Joe. He said, “We have an extraordinary public health apparatus here in New York City . . . and what became clear to me was it was really about telling the people of our city, this is something we can handle, but you got to follow some basic rules. . . . This should not stop you from going about your life. It should not stop you from going to Chinatown and going out to eat. I am going to do that today myself.”

    Later that day, New York City Council speaker Corey Johnson said, “It is important to support the Chinese community in New York City. Unfortunately many businesses and restaurants in Chinatown, Flushing, and Sunset Park are suffering because some customers are afraid of the coronavirus. But those fears are not based on facts and science. The risk of infection to New Yorkers is low. There is no need to avoid public spaces. I urge everyone to dine and shop as usual.”

New York City now has the worst coronavirus outbreak in the country.

It wasn't the science denialism of "evangelicals" that did this, but the science denialism of lefties who feared anything that might seem discriminatory.

The Left paved the way to this hell and it's frantically smearing and lying to get out.
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Re: Human coronaviruses were first identified in the mid-1960s
« Reply #128 on: May 19, 2020, 07:28:34 AM »

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Re: Human coronaviruses were first identified in the mid-1960s
« Reply #129 on: May 20, 2020, 04:41:36 PM »


Yes everyone rejected the technocracy cults because screw your nerdy little "g-d" but if you have the technerd cult but you put the doctor on the cover instead of the lab tech now it's much more palatable.
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Re: Human coronaviruses were first identified in the mid-1960s
« Reply #130 on: May 21, 2020, 05:53:46 AM »
Really not a fan of superhero movies. I just liked how they portrayed medical workers as superheroes.

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Re: Human coronaviruses were first identified in the mid-1960s
« Reply #131 on: May 21, 2020, 09:30:33 PM »
Really not a fan of superhero movies. I just liked how they portrayed medical workers as superheroes.

The right wing is all drooling warm foam of joy at the mouth that the left is saying a job is important now. Maybe they will say renovation workers and welderss are heroes now *foam*. They always fight for bad things and now it looks good, yay and many group hugs. Doctors are indeed important and extremely desirable to society. The left didn't all of a sudden mount a big campaign to encourage more people to be doctors, or to say you should all trust your doctors, because indeed if someone like Rand Paul or any of the hundreds of other doctors talk that aren't for corona lockdown, they change their tone and those are animals. They're essentially bringing them into the many-faith religion of the left and anointing the priesthood, so now besides anything an "environmentalist" says is right (so long as he agrees with global warming), anything a psychologist says is right (so long as he agrees with homosexuality and sexual mutilation) and all the rest, you have anything a doctor says is right, so long as he says corona lockdown, and then whatever becomes the new amoral virtue of the week. Soon 99% of doctors will agree that the science is settles and the 57% that don't agree and still have jobs will be silenced.
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