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Offline Binyamin Yisrael

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G-d Will Bless Putin
« on: July 02, 2020, 03:42:51 AM »
See the bolded part below. If the US and Israel made the same law but with the word American and Israeli instead of Russian, we would have a much better world. Even Putin of Russia is doing teshuvah for the atheist past of Communist Russia.

Putin scores victory, will hold power until 2036

77.6% of Russian voters approve changes to the constitution that will allow Putin to potentially hold power until 2036.

Arutz Sheva Staff , 02/07/20 02:03

Russian voters on Wednesday approved changes to the constitution that will allow President Vladimir Putin to potentially hold power until 2036, but the weeklong plebiscite was tarnished by widespread reports of pressure on voters and other irregularities, The Associated Press reported.

With three-fourths of all precincts counted, 77.6% voted for the constitutional amendments, according to election officials.

For the first time in Russia, polls were kept open for a week to bolster turnout without increasing crowds casting ballots amid the coronavirus pandemic. The move was denounced by Kremlin critics as an extra tool to manipulate the outcome.

The amendments that would allow Putin to run for two more six-year terms, in 2024 and 2030, are part of a package of constitutional changes that also outlaw same-sex marriage, mention "a belief in God as a core value" and emphasize the primacy of Russian law over international norms.

Voters could not cast ballots on the individual amendments, only on the entire group, noted AP.

Nationwide turnout was reported at 65% of the electorate.

Kremlin critics and independent monitors pointed out that relentless pressure on voters coupled with new opportunities for manipulations from a week of early voting when ballot boxes stood unattended at night eroded the standards of voting to a striking new low.

In addition to that, the early voting sanctioned by election officials but not reflected in law further eroded the ballot’s validity.

Many criticized the Kremlin for lumping more than 200 proposed amendments together in one package without giving voters a chance to differentiate among them.

In a frantic effort to get the vote, polling station workers set up ballot boxes in courtyards and playgrounds, on tree stumps and even in car trunks - unlikely settings derided on social media that made it impossible to ensure a clean vote, according to AP.

In Moscow, there were reports of unusually high numbers of at-home voters, with hundreds visited by election workers in a matter of hours, along with multiple complaints from monitors that paperwork documenting the turnout was being concealed from them.

At the same time, monitoring the vote became more challenging due to hygiene requirements and more arcane rules for election observers.

Observers warned that the methods used to boost turnout, combined with bureaucratic hurdles that hindered independent monitoring, would undermine the vote's legitimacy.


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Re: G-d Will Bless Putin
« Reply #1 on: July 02, 2020, 05:58:51 AM »
This is a very good development.
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« Reply #2 on: July 02, 2020, 12:21:54 PM »
Can't not be blessed for it. Not very good for the world with the selling of nukes to Iran and Egypt and support for Hezbollah, but extremely good for his own people in Russia.
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Re: G-d Will Bless Putin
« Reply #3 on: July 02, 2020, 02:26:05 PM »
Can't not be blessed for it. Not very good for the world with the selling of nukes to Iran and Egypt and support for Hezbollah, but extremely good for his own people in Russia.


It's like the Muslims are very strict on the prohibition of idolatry and are willing to do what they consider "dying for G-d" even if they have a warped version of it. That's why Muslims have any power over us. If only Jews believed in G-d and His Torah.


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« Reply #4 on: July 02, 2020, 03:30:43 PM »

Putin is very dangerous, including for Jews. Putin pretends that he's against Anti-Semitism. Yet, his actions speak volumes. The following article is an illustration of this:

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http://khpg.org/en/index.php?id=1422974633

04.02.2015 | Halya Coynash
Interethnic relations

Kremlin Proxies call Kremlin’s ’Kyiv Junta’ "Pathetic Jews"

Distasteful anti-Semitism demonstrated by Kremlin-backed militant leaders Alexander Zakharchenko and Igor Plotnitsky in Donbas on Monday received wide but typically inadequate coverage.  The attack made by the leaders of the self-proclaimed ‘Donetsk and Luhansk people’s republics’ on the ‘pathetic’ Jews running Ukraine was not proof that “anti-Semitic sentiment remains widespread in Ukraine”.  It was anything but.

The militants – both the relatively few Ukrainian-born individuals who were installed after the Kremlin-installed Russian nationals like Igor Girkin and Alexander Borodai were withdrawn, their predecessors and a large contingent of far-right Russian nationalists fighting in Donbas – have demonstrated similar anti-Semitic views on previous occasions.  This has been seen most often in respect to Ukrainian oligarch and active member of the Dnipropetrovsk Jewish community, Ihor Kolomoisky, and to members of Ukraine’s government.  This gels very badly with the standard line taken by the Kremlin about a supposed ‘anti-Semitic and fascist junta’ that seized control in Ukraine.

The incongruity was picked up immediately by the Euro-Asian Jewish Congress which reported the anti-Semitic utterances made by “Moscow puppets speaking on behalf of territory occupied by Russians and collaborators from the local population”.  The report ends with a reminder that “in the Spring of last year the Russian foreign ministry officially called the actions of pro-Russian separatists in Donbas supported by Russian diversionary formations “protests in response to violence against all who don’t agree with the anti-Semitic actions of the coalition which has taken power in Kyiv”.

Attempts by the Kremlin under President Vladimir Putin to use an ‘anti-Semitism card’ in Ukraine have been systematically demolished, most often by Jewish public figures and organizations (examples here).  They have not been helped by demonstrations of anti-Semitism by pro-Russian militants and the credentials of some of the neo-Nazi or fascist organizations in Russia most actively supporting the militants.

In an interview given last week on International Holocaust Remembrance Day, Viacheslav Likhachev, long-time monitor of anti-Semitism and xenophobia in Ukraine was asked whether a reassessment was underway among nationalists of anti-Semitism and the Holocaust.  He replied that in the Ukrainian nationalist milieu there is a clearly observable trend towards a positive attitude to Jewish people and a rejection of anti-Semitism.  This, he said, was in contrast to Russian right-wing radicals, especially those involved in the conflict (in eastern Ukraine) where the anti-Semitic sentiments are getting stronger.
“The two tendencies are linked both to the specific features of the Ukrainian situation, and to mythology. As a textbook example of Ukrainian-Jewish solidarity from real life we can mention the case of Ihor Kolomoisky who has become a symbol of the battle for Ukrainian sovereignty. Then there’s the wish by Russian nationalists to call Ukraine’s President Waltsman.  This helps them explain why they’re fighting their brother nation – “they’re liberating them from the Jews in power”.

While not seeing any great danger of a real upsurge in far-right parties in Russia, Likhachev points out that those in power in Russia are making use of radical nationalist ideas and adapting them so that they appeal to the public – “from the fight against so-called ‘illegal migration’ and ‘national traitors’ to ‘protection’ of compatriots throughout the world”.

He warns that those extremists are quite capable of using the experience they’ve gained at ‘street level’.  Their participation in the aggression against Ukraine, he adds, is helping to mobilize and organize Russian radical nationalists.  While some will doubtless not return alive, others will come home with all psychological restraints removed and with experience of violence.

Both EuroMaidan and Russia’s undeclared war brought Ukrainians a number of very hard lessons.  Nobody is suggesting that anti-Semitism has disappeared, or will, but one positive development has undoubtedly been greater awareness of what Ukrainians, regardless of ethnic background, share.
The situation in Donbas in contrast is surreal with far-right, often neo-Nazi nationalists, both home-grown like Pavel Gubarev or Russians like Alexei Milchakov using the vocabulary foisted on them by Kremlin propaganda.  Hardly surprising when neo-Nazis or others from the far right are supposed to be fighting Putin’s “anti-Semitic Kyiv junta”, that on occasion, like Monday’s press conference, they forget their lines/
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Re: G-d Will Bless Putin
« Reply #5 on: July 02, 2020, 05:14:03 PM »
No same sex marriages or fag parades in Russia under Putin

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« Reply #6 on: July 02, 2020, 05:25:45 PM »
Putin is very dangerous, including for Jews. Putin pretends that he's against Anti-Semitism. Yet, his actions speak volumes.


If he didn't make a stand against homosexuality, making "a belief in God as a core value", and not caring about international "law", he would be powerless in promoting evil regimes and Anti-Semitism around the World. If Western countries and even Israel are unwilling to do what's right, then maybe G-d is using Putin as a punishment. Putin merited that by his stances against immorality. If Israel, the US, and Western Europe would take those stances, Russia would not be an issue and the Redemption would be hastened by good behavior of the Jews and Western Righteous Gentiles.


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« Reply #7 on: July 02, 2020, 05:49:44 PM »
Anti-Gay stance is far down the list in terms of what matters considering this is a vicious antisemite.  Amalekite antisemitism is a much more critical issue for Israel and Jews. 

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« Reply #8 on: July 02, 2020, 06:12:34 PM »
Anti-Gay stance is far down the list in terms of what matters considering this is a vicious antisemite.  Amalekite antisemitism is a much more critical issue for Israel and Jews.


Ancient Egypt was also Anti-Semitic but G-d allowed them to enslave the Jews. Egypt was worse than Putin. They allowed all kinds of immorality.




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« Reply #9 on: July 02, 2020, 06:13:27 PM »


If he didn't make a stand against homosexuality, making "a belief in God as a core value", and not caring about international "law", he would be powerless in promoting evil regimes and Anti-Semitism around the World. If Western countries and even Israel are unwilling to do what's right, then maybe G-d is using Putin as a punishment. Putin merited that by his stances against immorality. If Israel, the US, and Western Europe would take those stances, Russia would not be an issue and the Redemption would be hastened by good behavior of the Jews and Western Righteous Gentiles.

Putin is responsible for countless deaths, bogus prison sentences, and corruption that has caused immense misery.

I'm not justifying the behavior of leaders in other countries. It's evident though that Putin wants to recreate a version of the USSR, which would endanger people throughout the world. Including, Israel ( because of ghetto mentality leaders ) and to the USA.
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« Reply #10 on: July 02, 2020, 06:17:40 PM »
Putin is responsible for countless deaths, bogus prison sentences, and corruption that has caused immense misery.

I'm not justifying the behavior of leaders in other countries. It's evident though that Putin wants to recreate a version of the USSR, which would endanger people throughout the world. Including, Israel ( because of ghetto mentality leaders ) and to the USA.


But he doesn't want to ban all religion like the USSR. If he wanted to be like the USSR altogether, he would not be successful at all. I guess the fact that he bans immorality and allows some religion makes him more dangerous since he would have some merit. The EU doesn't have any merit at all. Germany is Anti-Semitic and also allows all kinds of immorality and lets illegal aliens into all of Europe. That is why G-d is destroying the EU countries. The EU countries don't pose a threat to Israel unless the self-hating leaders of Israel let them.


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« Reply #11 on: July 02, 2020, 06:33:43 PM »


But he doesn't want to ban all religion like the USSR. If he wanted to be like the USSR altogether, he would not be successful at all. I guess the fact that he bans immorality and allows some religion makes him more dangerous since he would have some merit. The EU doesn't have any merit at all. Germany is Anti-Semitic and also allows all kinds of immorality and lets illegal aliens into all of Europe. That is why G-d is destroying the EU countries. The EU countries don't pose a threat to Israel unless the self-hating leaders of Israel let them.

If the time comes that Putin believes that banning one or more religions will fit his plans better, he will. 

Bill Browder's book, 'Red Notice', is one I recommend.  Browder saw first hand how Putin can go from appearing to be on one's side to that person becoming in essence Putin's # 1 enemy.  The reason being, because the person stands in the way of Putin's objectives, even though he or she didn't break the law.  Browder happens to be Jewish.
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« Reply #12 on: July 02, 2020, 09:13:23 PM »


Ancient Egypt was also Anti-Semitic but G-d allowed them to enslave the Jews. Egypt was worse than Putin. They allowed all kinds of immorality.

You ignore what he does to Israel because of your love of his anti-gay feelings.  That is misguided.

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« Reply #13 on: July 02, 2020, 09:43:08 PM »
You ignore what he does to Israel because of your love of his anti-gay feelings.  That is misguided.


I'm not ignoring. Russia and China are evil. I'm just saying that he's actually more dangerous since he has the merit of being against homosexuality. Israel has problems with both but the self-hating leaders ignore the problems with China while letting China be in charge of things in Israel like ports and building projects.


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« Reply #14 on: July 03, 2020, 01:35:00 AM »


If he didn't make a stand against homosexuality, making "a belief in God as a core value", and not caring about international "law", he would be powerless in promoting evil regimes and Anti-Semitism around the World. If Western countries and even Israel are unwilling to do what's right, then maybe G-d is using Putin as a punishment. Putin merited that by his stances against immorality. If Israel, the US, and Western Europe would take those stances, Russia would not be an issue and the Redemption would be hastened by good behavior of the Jews and Western Righteous Gentiles.

Lol if you knew the halacha here you'd see you just insulted Putin in a major way. Hashem chooses the most evil people alive he wants to exterminate to punish the Jewish people, so he has justification to annihilate them. I don't think this is the case. Even the super rich liberals that say faggy things about themselves like "New world order" have started doing mizvot on purpose to get more power to do evil. Of course their plans will all fall on their heads, but you can see how Hashem is setting this up for the best laugh.

Russia helping Hezbollah and Egypt are issues, and our moral requirement is to do something to stop Putin's evil plans. Like when the spies say Job in the land and said "there are great men in the land", Putin does have a level of morality now with this, like Assyria did after the prophet Yonah helped them make teshuva, and they destroyed every city except for Jerusalem after. As such, he is a major threat.

Anti-Gay stance is far down the list in terms of what matters considering this is a vicious antisemite.  Amalekite antisemitism is a much more critical issue for Israel and Jews. 

That is right on the top of morality there actually, especially considered it's doubled since he can claim "perfect in his generation", since everyone else allows abomination. You're a weak little rat if you worship a man for an aspect of his morality who is helping to nuke you. That doesn't mean he has huge merit from this, he does, and it is an extremely good stance there. He's still pretty clearly more evil than good.
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