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Nietzsche on Judaism
« on: July 28, 2020, 01:36:33 PM »
I did a JTF search for Nietzsche. Some JTFers view him as a proto-Nazi. I disagree with that view.

According to a Stanford source, "Nietzsche takes strikingly different attitudes toward the Tanach, which he respected, and the New Testament, which he detested. He believed the New Testament didn't improve upon the Old or show any progress."

Consider the following quotes:

"In the Jewish "Tanach," the book of divine justice, there are men, things, and speeches of such impressive style that the world of Greek and Indian literature has nothing to place beside them."

- Beyond Good and Evil, Part III, Aphorism 52.

"The Tanach—now, that's something quite different. All honour to the Tanach! In that I find great men, a heroic landscape and something of the rarest of all elements on earth, the incomparable naïveté of the strong heart. Even more—I find a people."

- On the Genealogy of Morals, Third Essay, section 22.

It was Nietzsche who helped me leave Christianity and it was his preference for the Tanach which helped bring me to Judaism.

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Re: Nietzsche on Judaism
« Reply #1 on: July 28, 2020, 04:53:35 PM »
I don't know much about him, but I heard a little from Jordan Peterson. Says something similar to that effect
.   ד  עֹזְבֵי תוֹרָה, יְהַלְלוּ רָשָׁע;    וְשֹׁמְרֵי תוֹרָה, יִתְגָּרוּ בָם
4 They that forsake the law praise the wicked; but such as keep the law contend with them.

ה  אַנְשֵׁי-רָע, לֹא-יָבִינוּ מִשְׁפָּט;    וּמְבַקְשֵׁי יְהוָה, יָבִינוּ כֹל.   
5 Evil men understand not justice; but they that seek the LORD understand all things.

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Re: Nietzsche on Judaism
« Reply #2 on: July 28, 2020, 04:59:19 PM »
I think there is a misconception regarding to Nietzsche because he developed the philosophical ideal of Übermensch and people confuse that with the Nazi ideals of racial and national supremacism.

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Re: Nietzsche on Judaism
« Reply #3 on: July 28, 2020, 06:28:32 PM »
I don't know much about him, but I heard a little from Jordan Peterson. Says something similar to that effect

He was one of the most important Gentile thinkers of all time. He saw that Christianity would die out in Europe, so he tried to find new and better values for Europeans. Tragically, it seems that he wasn't aware of the Torah's Noahide commandments. He inspired Nietzschean Zionism: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nietzschean_Zionism
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Re: Nietzsche on Judaism
« Reply #4 on: July 28, 2020, 06:49:35 PM »
I think there is a misconception regarding to Nietzsche because he developed the philosophical ideal of Übermensch and people confuse that with the Nazi ideals of racial and national supremacism.

Ironically, in Nietzsche contra Wagner, he implied that German readers are too dumb to understand his works.

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Re: Nietzsche on Judaism
« Reply #5 on: July 29, 2020, 02:21:47 AM »
Then why did he say "G-d is 'dead'", Chas VeShalom?

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Re: Nietzsche on Judaism
« Reply #6 on: July 29, 2020, 05:46:49 AM »
Then why did he say "G-d is 'dead'", Chas VeShalom?

Given that Nietzsche respected the Tanach and detested the New Testament, it is obvious that he referred to the CHRISTIAN God. Your own source says "the Christian God, who had existed at one point, has ceased to exist."

Replacing Christianity with a set of new and better values is the essence of his philosophy.

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Re: Nietzsche on Judaism
« Reply #7 on: July 29, 2020, 06:55:45 AM »
He was an atheist obviously. But that doesn't mean he hated Jews or any other group of people.
Then why did he say "G-d is 'dead'", Chas VeShalom?