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From who do we fear? Bush? Clinton? Obama? Olmert? Peres? Ahmedinejad?
Ultra Requete:
All those secular zionist are silly; If G-d of Israel doesn't exist why don't establish seular democratic Israel in Uganda; or Alaska? the jews there woud livein peace and greater material prosperity becouse all of this expences on defence and security against A-rabs; Without Torah the A-rabs have greater rights to Palestine becouse they lived as Mayority here from 135, 638 or 1290 to 1948 CE. Back to the topic Jews shoud fear their leaders first; mayority of people don't care about Jews anyway; and internaly strong Israel trusting in G-d has nothing to fear.
Eliezer Ben Avraham:
--- Quote from: Ultra Requete on October 08, 2007, 01:53:07 PM ---All those secular zionist are silly; If G-d of Israel doesn't exist why don't establish seular democratic Israel in Uganda; or Alaska? the jews there woud livein peace and greater material prosperity becouse all of this expences on defence and security against A-rabs; Without Torah the A-rabs have greater rights to Eretz Yisrael becouse they lived as Mayority here from 135, 638 or 1290 to 1948 CE. Back to the topic Jews shoud fear their leaders first; mayority of people don't care about Jews anyway; and internaly strong Israel trusting in G-d has nothing to fear.
--- End quote ---
Not only silly, but they truly are stealing Arab land. Our claim to the land is that G-d gave it to us and we had it 2000 years ago. Without a religious connection we really are thieves as the Arabs call us.
Tzvi Ben Roshel1:
--- Quote from: lou13ss on October 11, 2007, 03:55:53 PM ---
--- Quote from: Ultra Requete on October 08, 2007, 01:53:07 PM ---All those secular zionist are silly; If G-d of Israel doesn't exist why don't establish seular democratic Israel in Uganda; or Alaska? the jews there woud livein peace and greater material prosperity becouse all of this expences on defence and security against A-rabs; Without Torah the A-rabs have greater rights to Eretz Yisrael becouse they lived as Mayority here from 135, 638 or 1290 to 1948 CE. Back to the topic Jews shoud fear their leaders first; mayority of people don't care about Jews anyway; and internaly strong Israel trusting in G-d has nothing to fear.
--- End quote ---
Not only silly, but they truly are stealing Arab land. Our claim to the land is that G-d gave it to us and we had it 2000 years ago. Without a religious connection we really are thieves as the Arabs call us.
--- End quote ---
not exactly, but yea, the main reason why Israel is for the Jews is that its G-d's command.
Eliezer Ben Avraham:
--- Quote from: Tzvi Ben Roshel on October 11, 2007, 08:31:09 PM ---
--- Quote from: lou13ss on October 11, 2007, 03:55:53 PM ---
--- Quote from: Ultra Requete on October 08, 2007, 01:53:07 PM ---All those secular zionist are silly; If G-d of Israel doesn't exist why don't establish seular democratic Israel in Uganda; or Alaska? the jews there woud livein peace and greater material prosperity becouse all of this expences on defence and security against A-rabs; Without Torah the A-rabs have greater rights to Eretz Yisrael becouse they lived as Mayority here from 135, 638 or 1290 to 1948 CE. Back to the topic Jews shoud fear their leaders first; mayority of people don't care about Jews anyway; and internaly strong Israel trusting in G-d has nothing to fear.
--- End quote ---
Not only silly, but they truly are stealing Arab land. Our claim to the land is that G-d gave it to us and we had it 2000 years ago. Without a religious connection we really are thieves as the Arabs call us.
--- End quote ---
not exactly, but yea, the main reason why Israel is for the Jews is that its G-d's command.
--- End quote ---
If we don't look at the biblical sources or at Jewish history, we really are thieves. Without that stuff we had no right to come in and take the land.
Tzvi Ben Roshel1:
it wasnt really settled by arabs, 100 years ago their were 6,000 arabs compared to 25,000 Jews. But yoea I dont disagree with you that the main argument and claim is only the fact the Torah is right.
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