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Re: Russia invaded Ukraine..odessa kiev
« Reply #25 on: February 27, 2022, 09:47:05 PM »
Ron should we really blame all modern day Ukrainians for the sins of their grandparents and great grandparents?  You a correct their ancestors were rotten antisemites. I did say when i started this post that " I was no fan of Ukraine." I said this in reference to the awful history....unbelievable cruelty. But is it right to blame this generation for the sins of their grandparents? I must confess I fall into that trap also. Sometimes I rhino all Germans are this or all Russians are that. But when you stop and think Ron , it is illogical. But I respect your views.

When the current generation views their ancestors as heroes? When you have streets and cities named in their honor, statues erected in their honor in city squares, bills of money in their honor?

Absolutely.
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Re: Russia invaded Ukraine..odessa kiev
« Reply #26 on: February 27, 2022, 09:54:36 PM »
These are NAZI countries where the words Jew and Judaism are dirty words and you are spewing some nonsensical irrelevant garbage about how one of them suddenly violates Noahide Law... laughable.

What do you mean suddenly? I have been pointing out on this forum that Russia's wars of aggressive conquest are forbidden as theft since February 3. The aggression is not just stealing the land. It's stealing the people's state of mind and honor against their will. Noahide law is not "nonsensical irrelevant garbage." It is meant to be the law of the land in Gentile countries and the basis for their international relations.   



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Re: Russia invaded Ukraine..odessa kiev
« Reply #27 on: February 27, 2022, 10:38:36 PM »
What do you mean suddenly? I have been pointing out on this forum that Russia's wars of aggressive conquest are forbidden as theft since February 3. The aggression is not just stealing the land. It's stealing the people's state of mind and honor against their will. Noahide law is not "nonsensical irrelevant garbage." It is meant to be the law of the land in Gentile countries and the basis for their international relations.   

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The foundation of all Noahide law is the belief that the seven Noahide commandments come from G-d, the G-d of Israel. The Rambam states that a Gentile who observes the seven Noahide commandments because he considers them to logical is a wise person, but not a ben Noah. Only if the Gentile recognizes that these commandments come from the Torah and the Bible is he a ben Noah. In other words, a ben Noah observes the seven commandments because they are G-d's law.

In the Torah and the Bible, G-d repeatedly warns the nations of the world that they must never go against Israel. In fact, if the nations wish to be blessed, they must bless Israel. If they curse Israel, they will be cursed. Support for Israel and the Jews is the number one precondition that G-d sets for the nations of the world to survive.

Russia and Ukraine have both spilled oceans of Jewish blood for centuries. During the holocaust, the Ukrainian Nazis savagely murdered hundreds of thousands of innocent Jewish men, women and children. In Babi Yar, the Ukrainian Nazis rounded up tens of thousands of unarmed, defenseless Jews and forced them to dig their own graves. The Ukrainian Nazis then threw the Jewish men, women and children into the mass graves and buried them alive. The Jews desperately tried to breath as the soil choked them to death.

The Ukrainian Nazi monsters who committed these atrocities will never be forgiven. Nor will their Nazi grandchildren who regard them as national heroes. May they receive the ultimate punishment both in this world and the next.


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Re: Russia invaded Ukraine..odessa kiev
« Reply #28 on: February 27, 2022, 10:54:05 PM »
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The foundation of all Noahide law is the belief that the seven Noahide commandments come from G-d, the G-d of Israel. The Rambam states that a Gentile who observes the seven Noahide commandments because he considers them to logical is a wise person, but not a ben Noah. Only if the Gentile recognizes that these commandments come from the Torah and the Bible is he a ben Noah. In other words, a ben Noah observes the seven commandments because they are G-d's law.

In the Torah and the Bible, G-d repeatedly warns the nations of the world that they must never go against Israel. In fact, if the nations wish to be blessed, they must bless Israel. If they curse Israel, they will be cursed. Support for Israel and the Jews is the number one precondition that G-d sets for the nations of the world to survive.

Russia and Ukraine have both spilled oceans of Jewish blood for centuries. During the holocaust, the Ukrainian Nazis savagely murdered hundreds of thousands of innocent Jewish men, women and children. In Babi Yar, the Ukrainian Nazis rounded up tens of thousands of unarmed, defenseless Jews and forced them to dig their own graves. The Ukrainian Nazis then threw the Jewish men, women and children into the mass graves and buried them alive. The Jews desperately tried to breath as the soil choked them to death.

The Ukrainian Nazi monsters who committed these atrocities will never be forgiven. Nor will their Nazi grandchildren who regard them as national heroes. May they receive the ultimate punishment both in this world and the next.

Chaim, the thread is about Russia's invasion of Ukraine. I showed the invasion is forbidden in God's eyes. Instead of calling Ukrainians Nazis, why don't you focus on teaching them the Noahide laws so they become better? I could flood you with sources showing the Torah Law basis of Jewish outreach to non-Jews, but it is 5 am in Croatia and I am too tired.   
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Re: Russia invaded Ukraine..odessa kiev
« Reply #29 on: February 28, 2022, 06:37:52 AM »
Chaim, the thread is about Russia's invasion of Ukraine. I showed the invasion is forbidden in God's eyes. Instead of calling Ukrainians Nazis, why don't you focus on teaching them the Noahide laws so they become better? I could flood you with sources showing the Torah Law basis of Jewish outreach to non-Jews, but it is 5 am in Croatia and I am too tired.

Calling them Nazis?



They are calling themeselves.

That's the Azov Regiment (an official state backed unit of the National Guard who are constantly praised by Ukraine's official social media accounts), they are currently getting their behinds handed to them by the Russians in the east of Ukraine.

I know you're Croatian and have an anti Russian bias (I hate them too but not more than the Ukrainians), but dont start excusing it with silly blabbering about Noahide Law.
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Re: Russia invaded Ukraine..odessa kiev
« Reply #30 on: February 28, 2022, 06:43:59 AM »
Not playing the deflection game. The discussion is not about the Azov Regiment or my Croatian biases. The clear and objective fact is that Russia's war is forbidden by Noahide Law, which means more to me than your subjective opinion.
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Re: Russia invaded Ukraine..odessa kiev
« Reply #31 on: March 01, 2022, 11:58:27 AM »
Don't forget that Trump is helping Russia invade Ukraine. 

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Re: Russia invaded Ukraine..odessa kiev
« Reply #32 on: March 01, 2022, 01:04:44 PM »
Not playing the deflection game. The discussion is not about the Azov Regiment or my Croatian biases. The clear and objective fact is that Russia's war is forbidden by Noahide Law, which means more to me than your subjective opinion.

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