Ukraine is consistently anti Israel

[Ron]

* Ukraine recognized "Palestine", saying it supports the "Palestinian right of self determinatiom" (which it denies from the ethnically Russian people in Donbass)
* Ukraine voted in favor of the infamous UN Resolution 2334 against Israel
* Ukraine voted in favor of the UN resolution calling for the "permanent sovereignity of the Palestinian people in the occupied Palestinian territories, including East Jerusalem, and the Arab population in the occupied Syrian Golan Heights as well as their natural resources"
* Ukraine supported a resolution regarding "the Israeli settlements in the occupied Palestinian territories, including East Jerusalem and the occupied Syrian Golan Heights" and demanded, in typical Ukrainian blood libel fashion, from Israel to stop all "acts of violence, destruction, harassment and provocation by Israeli settlers, especially against Palestinian civilians and their property, including in historical and religious sites"

[Hrvatski Noahid]

The poor innocent Russians in Donbass have destabilized Ukraine's territorial integrity since 2014. They killed 10000 Ukrainians according to their own sources.

God gave Israel to the Jews. He did not give Ukraine to the Russians.

[Ron]

The poor innocent Russians in Donbass have destabilized Ukraine's territorial integrity since 2014. They killed 10000 Ukrainians according to their own sources.

God gave Israel to the Jews. He did not give Ukraine to the Russians.

The Ukrainians killed Russians too. Both sides are super violent scum. Both are the Africans of Europe.  This weird attempt to paint them as somehow more cultured than their Russian brothers is amusing.

But only one side is a hypocrite saying that the Land of Israel which was inhabited by Jews thousands of years before the word "Ukraine" was a thing, belongs to the Arabs because "they deserve self determination", but Russians who make up the majority in Donetsk and Lugansk do not.

They supported replacing Israel with Fakestine and now they are getting their little sh*thole razed to the ground by a whiter version of Arabs.

[Hrvatski Noahid]

The Ukrainians killed Russians too. Both sides are super violent scum. Both are the Africans of Europe.  This weird attempt to paint them as somehow more cultured than their Russian brothers is amusing.

But only one side is a hypocrite saying that the Land of Israel which was inhabited by Jews thousands of years before the word "Ukraine" was a thing, belongs to the Arabs because "they deserve self determination", but Russians who make up the majority in Donetsk and Lugansk do not.

They supported replacing Israel with Fakestine and now they are getting their little sh*thole razed to the ground by a whiter version of Arabs.

Russia voted for resolution 2334, too. If Ukraine tried to conquer Russia, I would be defending Russia. And please do not pretend Russia gives a damn about Ukrainian self-determination.

[Ron]

Russia voted for resolution 2334, too.

But nobody's making excuses for Russia. Everybody knows they are evil.

People are making excuses for Ukraine.

[Joe Gutfeld]

If that's the case I hope that Russia wipes them off the map.

[Hrvatski Noahid]

But nobody's making excuses for Russia. Everybody knows they are evil.

People are making excuses for Ukraine.

Ron, brother, I do not believe Ukraine is more evil than other countries. 63% of Americans believe John 8:44 is the word of God, which states Jews are the children of the Devil. Even if you believe Ukrainians are Amalek, I am not Jewish and therefore not commanded to wipe out the descendants of Amalek or remember what Amalek did to the Jewish people. I strongly believe all Gentiles should fulfill the obligation to save a person's life by doing what they can to save Ukrainian lives.

[Nachus]

                                                                                                                        

 While the ideal is that the Jewish people
 live in the Land of Israel, they should
 definitely not stay in Russia or Ukraine
 and of course not in the galut at all!
 

[Rubystars]

Ron, brother, I do not believe Ukraine is more evil than other countries. 63% of Americans believe John 8:44 is the word of God, which states Jews are the children of the Devil. Even if you believe Ukrainians are Amalek, I am not Jewish and therefore not commanded to wipe out the descendants of Amalek or remember what Amalek did to the Jewish people. I strongly believe all Gentiles should fulfill the obligation to save a person's life by doing what they can to save Ukrainian lives.

You're wrong about Americans.

Most American Christians are very pro-Israel and are friendly to Jews. Just look how popular Ben Shapiro is among conservative Christians here in the USA. I rarely step out and make a post here anymore but this really crosses the line into slander.

That verse isn't about some kind of racial hatred against Jewish people. Otherwise we'd have to hate Jesus too right? And Moses and David and Mary and many other people that we admire and honor the memories of. Some people are evil and deserve to be rebuked... strongly... and some people are obedient to God and don't deserve that rebuke.

I understand that things like this have been taken and misused by evil people claiming true faith over the centuries. Just because evil people do evil things doesn't mean that all Christians agree with those evil actions in the past or current anti-Semitism. Americans in particular tend to be philo-Semitic and I never even heard of anti-Semitic Christians until I was an adult because all the Christians I ever knew growing up were pro-Israel and I was actually shocked to learn that people had used Christianity and the Bible as some kind of excuse to hurt Jewish people because the Christianity I knew growing up and the Bible I've read never promoted genocide or pogroms or any of that stuff.

I understand that you hold some strong feelings when it comes to the Ukraine and Russia and I feel sad sometimes too when I see what's going on in the world but that's no excuse to just blanketly accuse all American Christians of hating Jewish people.

[Hrvatski Noahid]

You're wrong about Americans.

Most American Christians are very pro-Israel and are friendly to Jews. Just look how popular Ben Shapiro is among conservative Christians here in the USA. I rarely step out and make a post here anymore but this really crosses the line into slander.

That verse isn't about some kind of racial hatred against Jewish people. Otherwise we'd have to hate Jesus too right? And Moses and David and Mary and many other people that we admire and honor the memories of. Some people are evil and deserve to be rebuked... strongly... and some people are obedient to God and don't deserve that rebuke.

I understand that things like this have been taken and misused by evil people claiming true faith over the centuries. Just because evil people do evil things doesn't mean that all Christians agree with those evil actions in the past or current anti-Semitism. Americans in particular tend to be philo-Semitic and I never even heard of anti-Semitic Christians until I was an adult because all the Christians I ever knew growing up were pro-Israel and I was actually shocked to learn that people had used Christianity and the Bible as some kind of excuse to hurt Jewish people because the Christianity I knew growing up and the Bible I've read never promoted genocide or pogroms or any of that stuff.

I understand that you hold some strong feelings when it comes to the Ukraine and Russia and I feel sad sometimes too when I see what's going on in the world but that's no excuse to just blanketly accuse all American Christians of hating Jewish people.

Christianity caused the Jews to be slain by the sword, their remnants to be scattered and humbled, the Torah to be altered, and the majority of the world to err and serve a god other than the Lord, as Maimonides states in Laws of Kings 11:4.

The New Testament is the source of the common thread of anti-Semitism that connects the historical acts of persecution of the Jewish people throughout the Common Era. If you accept it as the word of God, you have to own its anti-Jewish verses.

Ideally, you should accept the Torah's 7 Noahide commandments for all Gentiles. 

[Rubystars]

Christianity caused the Jews to be slain by the sword, their remnants to be scattered and humbled, the Torah to be altered, and the majority of the world to err and serve a god other than the Lord, as Maimonides states in Laws of Kings 11:4.

The New Testament is the source of the common thread of anti-Semitism that connects the historical acts of persecution of the Jewish people throughout the Common Era. If you accept it as the word of God, you have to own its anti-Jewish verses.

Ideally, you should accept the Torah's 7 Noahide commandments for all Gentiles.

I don't think there are any anti-Jewish verses in a broad sense. There are particular groups of Jews and particular individuals that are strongly spoken against. The leadership of Jesus' time was corrupt and evil from a Christian world view. If it was such an anti-Semitic philosophy and Jesus was such a self-hating Jew though, why did so many Jewish people including his apostles love and follow him? Why did a well read scholar like Nicodemus give Jesus a chance to explain His teachings to him and believe that he was sent by God? He even helped give Jesus a proper burial. Do you think he would have done this for a hateful anti-Semite?

I am well aware that verses have been twisted and used an excuse for evil deeds... but that's human nature... humans are sinful creatures and they'll use any excuse to do evil. They can literally use anything to justify evil.

I do accept the New Testament as the Word of God. Every single word of it.

The correction I gave you was that you wanted to slander Americans as anti-Semitic. I was explaining to you that even though many Americans are Christians, there is no strong core of anti-Semitism in American Christianity. Anti-Semites are fringe and not respected by most Christians in the USA.

[Hrvatski Noahid]

I don't think there are any anti-Jewish verses in a broad sense. There are particular groups of Jews and particular individuals that are strongly spoken against. The leadership of Jesus' time was corrupt and evil from a Christian world view. If it was such an anti-Semitic philosophy and Jesus was such a self-hating Jew though, why did so many Jewish people including his apostles love and follow him? Why did a well read scholar like Nicodemus give Jesus a chance to explain His teachings to him and believe that he was sent by God? He even helped give Jesus a proper burial. Do you think he would have done this for a hateful anti-Semite?

I am well aware that verses have been twisted and used an excuse for evil deeds... but that's human nature... humans are sinful creatures and they'll use any excuse to do evil. They can literally use anything to justify evil.

I do accept the New Testament as the Word of God. Every single word of it.

The correction I gave you was that you wanted to slander Americans as anti-Semitic. I was explaining to you that even though many Americans are Christians, there is no strong core of anti-Semitism in American Christianity. Anti-Semites are fringe and not respected by most Christians in the USA.

I fear there is a contradiction in your worldview. You claim that Americans are not anti-Semitic. Yet you and they accept every single word of the anti-Semitic New Testament.

Concerning the Jewish followers of Jesus, a Jew who serves false gods is considered like a gentile in all regards (Maimonides, Avodat Kochavim 2:5).

[Rubystars]

I fear there is a contradiction in your worldview. You claim that Americans are not anti-Semitic. Yet you and they accept every single word of the anti-Semitic New Testament.

Concerning the Jewish followers of Jesus, a Jew who serves false gods is considered like a gentile in all regards (Maimonides, Avodat Kochavim 2:5).

Considering he wrote that over 1000 years later I don't think that counts for much. The people at the time would certainly have considered themselves as authentically Jewish and Nicodemus was on the Sanhedrin so I am pretty sure he had to be Jewish to be on there. In his opinion Jesus was sent by God. Anyway I won't argue with you about this any further. I think that as much as you like to accuse other people of being hateful that you need to look inside of yourself and see that you might have some wrong assumptions about others and their beliefs that just aren't true.

[Hrvatski Noahid]

Considering he wrote that over 1000 years later I don't think that counts for much. The people at the time would certainly have considered themselves as authentically Jewish and Nicodemus was on the Sanhedrin so I am pretty sure he had to be Jewish to be on there. In his opinion Jesus was sent by God. Anyway I won't argue with you about this any further. I think that as much as you like to accuse other people of being hateful that you need to look inside of yourself and see that you might have some wrong assumptions about others and their beliefs that just aren't true.

The conclusions in Maimonides are the word of God, this being the Oral Torah given to Moses at Sinai. Jesus taught the idolatrous doctrine of the trinity in Matthew 28:19, which makes him a false prophet. I make no apologies for hating idolatry, especially a Jew-hating form of idolatry like Christianity.