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To What Extent Do You Practice Sexual Modesty?

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Erica:

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--- Quote from: Christianwhitenation.name on October 10, 2007, 08:31:34 PM ---Kelly im with you, you sound typically Black...NO controls ,Just live!

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What in the ???  :o She sounds black because??? Kelly's picture is right next to her posts. Are you okay?

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Yeah, he's quite a cartoon character. I don't know if he's trying too hard or if he's really that lame.

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I'll take the latter for a thousand, Alex.   O0

Erica:

--- Quote from: Yacov Menashe Ben Rachamim on October 10, 2007, 08:49:02 PM ---He thinks he's black.



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Well I think he's crazy. lol Speaking of cartoon characters, he's reminding me more and more of Charlie Brown's teacher. Wha-Wha-Whawha! lol But I digress.

Vito:

--- Quote from: Barach Velvel ben Lazer Eliazer on October 10, 2007, 08:49:25 PM ---
G-d isn't so forgiving. If one commits murder, he will not forgive.

Yes, Christians are allowed to confess their sins to a priest or reverend, but that doesn't necessarily mean G-d will forgive them. It is a plea to G-d for forgiveness. Whether G-d decides to forgive that person cannot be discovered in life.

Jews have a chance to repent on Yom Kippur, but that doesn't mean G-d will forgive us for our sins. It is a plea for forgiveness.

Just like in court, a criminal can plea innocent, but that doesn't mean he will be found as such.

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You're thinking of Catholicism.. only they believe in confession.

Erica:

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--- Quote from: Lisa on October 09, 2007, 10:24:49 PM ---We have teenaged members like FTF, Sarah and Dexter. 

And even though they're only three people, this is a Torah true Jewish forum.  So fornication should not be encouraged for young men or women. 

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It shouldn't be allowed for people of any age. Only sex in marriage should be encouraged.



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Yacov, I don't think you should tell people what they can or can't do in their own personal lives on their own personal time. No one is going to judge you for remaining a virgin until marriage, for it is admirable, however its not right for you to determine what is right or wrong for someone to do; especially where their own relationships are concerned.

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According to the Torah Bible and Christian Bible it is a grave sin that cannot be considered. It IS wrong. Even Noachides should not commit sexual sins.

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THe wonderful thing about G-d is that he allows us to make mistakes and encourages us to come to him for forgiveness. He's not a one-sided G-d. Those who feel the need to repent after having sex before marriage will be forgiven by G-d. They can't be forgiven by man, because he has no power over someone who is equal to him.

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G-d isn't so forgiving. If one commits murder, he will not forgive.

Yes, Christians are allowed to confess their sins to a priest or reverend, but that doesn't necessarily mean G-d will forgive them. It is a plea to G-d for forgiveness. Whether G-d decides to forgive that person cannot be discovered in life.

Jews have a chance to repent on Yom Kippur, but that doesn't mean G-d will forgive us for our sins. It is a plea for forgiveness.

Just like in court, a criminal can plea innocent, but that doesn't mean he will be found as such.

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But the criminal doesn't admit his wrongs and in the first two situations, the people are pleading guilty. You should have compared it to a plea bargain.



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You're right about that. Criminals who kill people usually say they're innocent (when they actually did the deed, OJ) and then right before they take that walk down the green mile to the executioner's chair, they confess everything to God. I think its way too late for that at that time. lol If it isn't in your heart to admit wrongdoing the moment you do it, I don't think ANYONE can trust you/nor should they. But then, I'm no Goddess.

Barach Velvel ben Lazer Eliazer:

--- Quote from: Yacov Menashe Ben Rachamim on October 10, 2007, 08:42:19 PM ---
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--- Quote from: Barach Velvel ben Lazer Eliazer on October 10, 2007, 01:04:50 AM ---The hugging, kissing and hand shaking taboos are only a part of Hasidim. They're perfectly acceptable in other denominations.


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This is a false statement. If you are going to bring a statement like that then please back it up with Halahic proof, Im no Mr. perfect but writing wronge Halahic statements should be countered by any Jew who hears or sees it.

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Hasidim is a practice of having the furthest possible restrictions to help in preventing the breaking of any Jewish laws. Hasidic Jews do not kiss, hug or shake hands with the strange women to avoid impure thoughts or worse. This is a sound idea and one I have great respect for.

However, Orthodox Jews can shake hands with strange women, just as long as it doesn't bring about impure thoughts. Orthodoxy is the most traditional of the denominations, and abides by everything the Torah commands, nothing more, nothing less.

There is nothing strong with taking extra precautions or additional methods in abiding by Jewish law. Those who take these extra precautions wouldn't be considered to be breaking Orthodoxy tradition. If one wants to not shake hands with strange women, as to avoid impure thoughts than it's not taboo. In fact it should be encouraged to be a careful as possible. That is why those who want to ensure their purity become a part of the Hasidic movement.

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Not all Haredim (Ultra-Orthodox Jews) are Hasidic. I'm not even completely RELIGIOUS yet and even I don't break the sexual laws.



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Well, Ultra-Orthodox tends to lean torward Hasidim. I'm talking about Hasidim itself.

I'm just beginning my teachings as well in Orthodoxy, but I too have always known better in regards to sex being a vast sin outside of wedlock.

Even if one is not religious, it's just a practice of good morals.

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