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To What Extent Do You Practice Sexual Modesty?
Tzvi Ben Roshel1:
http://dailyhalacha.com/displayRead.asp?readID=586&txtSearch=kissing
(you can hear it also -just 5 minutes short)
"So we learn some rules that applies to us. We must be careful and follow the restrictions and refrain from touching ladies who are forbidden to us. This would include a young girl or women who is going out with or engaged to a man. They are not married yet, so according to Rambam, touching such a girl would be forbidden from the Torah. We have to be careful because unfortunately many are lenient since they are engaged with a ring and are about to get married. They are lenient and think they can touch and kiss, and so on and so forth. According to Rambam, this would be forbidden from the Torah. It’s not a good sign for the future when a relationship starts on such a weak foundation. So we must inform the young men that are going with a girl to be careful to follow the rules of Nigeea. This is not an option. We want them to find their mate and be married, but they must be careful. It is not something that is from the Chasidim that they made up. It is written in the Halacha."
Kiwi:
--- Quote from: NewYorker on October 10, 2007, 01:15:45 PM ---
Well, you all knock yourselves out with that celibacy stuff, good luck with that. :::D
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I think many don't have a choice in it ;D
Kiwi:
--- Quote from: ~*Mills*~ on October 11, 2007, 01:42:36 AM ---
--- Quote from: The Infidel. on October 11, 2007, 01:38:20 AM ---
--- Quote from: NewYorker on October 10, 2007, 01:15:45 PM ---
Well, you all knock yourselves out with that celibacy stuff, good luck with that. :::D
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I think many don't have a choice in it ;D
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:::D Well, "celibacy" has worked so far! Well, for me at least.
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Well for us women yes we are different 8;)
Not horny little cane toads :::D
Barach Velvel ben Lazer Eliazer:
--- Quote from: Tzvi Ben Roshel on October 10, 2007, 11:03:03 PM ---http://dailyhalacha.com/displayRead.asp?readID=586&txtSearch=kissing
(you can hear it also -just 5 minutes short)
"So we learn some rules that applies to us. We must be careful and follow the restrictions and refrain from touching ladies who are forbidden to us. This would include a young girl or women who is going out with or engaged to a man. They are not married yet, so according to Rambam, touching such a girl would be forbidden from the Torah. We have to be careful because unfortunately many are lenient since they are engaged with a ring and are about to get married. They are lenient and think they can touch and kiss, and so on and so forth. According to Rambam, this would be forbidden from the Torah. It’s not a good sign for the future when a relationship starts on such a weak foundation. So we must inform the young men that are going with a girl to be careful to follow the rules of Nigeea. This is not an option. We want them to find their mate and be married, but they must be careful. It is not something that is from the Chasidim that they made up. It is written in the Halacha."
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But I'm not saying the Hasidic Jews originated the custom, they do practice it though, and for the same reason. Most Hasidic rabbis will tell you that it's taboo, because they are aware of how men think and the impure thoughts that could occure if contact is made. Today in Hasidim it is considered wrong to touch a strange woman in any way. It may be an adopted custom, but it is the custom of the Hasidic people.
Barach Velvel ben Lazer Eliazer:
--- Quote from: The Infidel. on October 11, 2007, 01:38:20 AM ---
--- Quote from: NewYorker on October 10, 2007, 01:15:45 PM ---
Well, you all knock yourselves out with that celibacy stuff, good luck with that. :::D
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I think many don't have a choice in it ;D
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NewYorker just doesn't get it. If he doesn't understand the need for morals in the US and Israel, then, I'm not sure why he's a part of this movement.
And it's not celibacy, celibacy is what is priests practice, and means you don't intend to have sex at all. Jews do not practice celibacy, we practice refranement from sex until we are within wedlock.
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