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Dr. Dan:

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NewYorker just doesn't get it. If he doesn't understand the need for morals in the US and Israel, then, I'm not sure why he's a part of this movement.

And it's not celibacy, celibacy is what is priests practice, and means you don't intend to have sex at all. Jews do not practice celibacy, we practice refranement from sex until we are within wedlock.

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I'm part of this movement because we're all under the same threat from the bastard nazi muslim fascists and I agree with the JTF political stance for America and Israel.

On the refranement until marriage stuff, well, I'm 40 and not married, no prospects or plans of getting married, and there's a very good chance I may never marry, so that whole abstaining until wedlock, isn't quite going to work for me, M'kay.  ;)

And for the record, I'm not promoting my lifestyle, I'm just giving the guys some good natured razzing. Now careful while you get off that high horse, wouldn't want you to hurt yourself.   8;)




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I've already taken up the question with Lubab.

There is NO prohibition on gentiles having sex outside of marriage. According to the Seven Laws of Noah (the laws that govern gentiles), the only sexual prohibitions for gentiles are homosexuality, bestiality, adultery and incest.

Jews are another matter. Their 613 Mitzviot are tougher than our seven.

Celibacy is also bad for mental health. Ask any navy chief, factory foreman or mining boss. Men who do not get regular sexual release go crazy, drink too much and start fights.

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Sex outside of marriage is forbidden in Christianity, it's taken from Jewish law.

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Good for the Christians...does that mean they have one ownership over the Noahides?

Actually, I do have a question...are Noahides forbidden to practice Kashrut or other Jewish Mitzvot that isn't a Noahide law?

Dr. Dan:

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--- Quote from: Sarah on October 10, 2007, 05:50:54 PM ---Yes but if a man/woman intentionally goes out to practice sex outside of marriage thinking they can repent after they've indulged in illegal pleasure, thats wrong! G-d is the most Merciful but he forgives our mistakes and after one has committed a mistake he should learn from it and never repeat.

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Which is my point,  Sarah. WHatever a couple does, married or not, should be between them and G-d. I don't know about you but I don't have a heaven or hell to place sinners in. I'm human just like the rest of the population. No one is perfect.

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I just want to add to this discussion...there are two main types of sins: One you do against Gd and one you do against your fellow human being...Both require forgiveness.

The laws which one commits against Gd will, for the most part, be forgiven because Gd is merciful..Gd willing.

On the other hand, sin against "Man" is another story...if you hurt another person, you need to be remorseful and hopefully you'll be forgiven.

So sexual immodesty might be a sin against Gd..and perhaps yourself.

The Torah as rules and regulations and the Talmud and explanations put forth by the Rabbis are fences to prevent one from getting addicted to breaking the rules...It's not just preventing one from fornicating..it's preventing them from getting even close from doing it by, for example, not shaking hands with the opposite sex.

In as much I understand and respect these rules, what my tempt me is far less what might tempt Yaacov or Tzvi..Like I always say, "To each their own".

Kiwi:

--- Quote from: dannycookie57 on October 11, 2007, 07:33:25 AM ---Anytime i feel the need...i handcuff my wrists so that i prevent touching myself...Is that kosher for you guys?

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Sounds Kinky can I watch  8;)

Lisa:

--- Quote ---Anytime i feel the need...i handcuff my wrists so that i prevent touching myself...Is that kosher for you guys?
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Dan, that's way too much personal information for this forum. 

Mills, you are right.  Adultery is sex outside of marriage. 

Sarah:

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--- Quote ---Anytime i feel the need...i handcuff my wrists so that i prevent touching myself...Is that kosher for you guys?
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Dan, that's way too much personal information for this forum. 

Mills, you are right.  Adultery is sex outside of marriage. 

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And in that case, pre-marital sex is forbidden for Noachides as well.

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