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To What Extent Do You Practice Sexual Modesty?

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Sarah:

--- Quote from: Erica on October 10, 2007, 05:52:51 PM ---
--- Quote from: Sarah on October 10, 2007, 05:50:54 PM ---Yes but if a man/woman intentionally goes out to practice sex outside of marriage thinking they can repent after they've indulged in illegal pleasure, thats wrong! G-d is the most Merciful but he forgives our mistakes and after one has committed a mistake he should learn from it and never repeat.

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Which is my point,  Sarah. WHatever a couple does, married or not, should be between them and G-d. I don't know about you but I don't have a heaven or hell to place sinners in. I'm human just like the rest of the population. No one is perfect.

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Yeah I completely agree with that.
I actually thought that you were saying, its Ok to have sex out of marriage if you repent for it afterwards, my bad sorry. :)

However Yacov is right in saying that it shouldn't be allowed, because it isn't. That doesn't stop you from doing it though, its just not allowed.

nessuno:

--- Quote from: Erica on October 10, 2007, 05:52:51 PM ---
--- Quote from: Sarah on October 10, 2007, 05:50:54 PM ---Yes but if a man/woman intentionally goes out to practice sex outside of marriage thinking they can repent after they've indulged in illegal pleasure, thats wrong! G-d is the most Merciful but he forgives our mistakes and after one has committed a mistake he should learn from it and never repeat.

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Which is my point,  Sarah. WHatever a couple does, married or not, should be between them and G-d. I don't know about you but I don't have a heaven or hell to place sinners in. I'm human just like the rest of the population. No one is perfect.

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Well - it is very important - almost a life and death issue in today's world to encourage abstinence outside of marriage...especially when discussing the options with young people.  That is the only true way to prevent unwanted pregnancy and disease.  Humans Beings will do what they will and God may offer forgiveness but arming young people with knowledge/morals may save their life...in more ways then one.  

Wayne Jude:
Good answers ladies!Good women are so rare today. :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :)

Daniel:

--- Quote from: Tzvi Ben Roshel on October 10, 2007, 02:49:54 PM ---
--- Quote from: Barach Velvel ben Lazer Eliazer on October 10, 2007, 01:04:50 AM ---The hugging, kissing and hand shaking taboos are only a part of Hasidim. They're perfectly acceptable in other demoninations.


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This is a false statement. If you are going to bring a statement like that then please back it up with Halahic proof, Im no Mr. perfect but writing wronge Halahic statements should be countered by any Jew who hears or sees it.

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Where is the Halachic proof that we need to refrain from any physical contact from members of the opposite sex, including shaking hands. From my understanding, there is nothing explicitly stated in the Halacha about Shomer Negia requirements.

ftf:
Rather than shouting, can someone quote the bible verses that say that one should not kiss or hug outside of marriage. Anyone find the verses prohibiting sex outside of marriage, but I have never seen any prohibiting either of the other two things being here discussed.

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