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Al-Kuds day in Berlin. The muslimes march for eleminating Israel!
Ulli:
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--- Quote from: nopeaceforland on October 09, 2007, 03:42:11 PM ---Is there anyway that we can take all Jews and Christians out of Europe and carpet-bomb the whole thing? Apparently nothing was learned from the previously 2 world wars!
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Not only was nothing learned the sad fact is that much of the population in Europe look on America as the trouble maker. We are not in much better shape here in America since we are allowing the same situation to develop with the muslim roaches. The more established the muslims become in their adopted countries the harder its going to be to control them and then thats when the real problem will start.
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Yes i agree. It's a fact that the Europeans are mainly America-critics. But in Sudan are no Jews or citzens of the USA and the muslimes kill each other and the cristians. I think the murdermuslimes have to bomb more than now in Europe, that the Europeans understand that they are a threat. Everytime a muslime says he want to kill christians and jews in Germany. The left-wing press said that he is only mad at the "Israeli-government" or the "stupid George Bush" or the "sly Condoleezza Rice" etc. They don't realize, that Nazis travel frequently to Teheran and meet with the most radical Islamists in Germany. The biggest website of Nazi-Muslime conspiracy you can find here: http://www.radioislam.org/. They make propaganda in every European Language. Look for yourself. Hitler and Mohammed are their idols.
cjd:
--- Quote from: mord on October 09, 2007, 04:26:25 PM ---The German pastor Pierre Botembe is German he looks like he may be from another country
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Yes he looks a little dark to be a native German ::)
Ulli:
--- Quote from: mord on October 09, 2007, 04:26:25 PM ---The German pastor Pierre Botembe is German he looks like he may be from another country
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Yes he is originally from Congo, but has the German citzenship. He leads a very curious christian sect. There are only black Germans in it. I don't know this from protestant or catholic churches in Germany. There are normally all colours of people together, like brothers. But this sect is different. He said, that he has founded this group, because regular churches are only for whites and he want to have a special church only for blacks. In my oppinion he is a heretic dhimmi.
Ulli:
I have translated the interview on a Achmadinedschad fan-website with him. I used bablefish, perhaps you can understand now his so called "theologie"
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Minister Pierre Botembe - African Afrikanisch-Oekumeni church
19.12.2006
Minister Pierre Botembe (class 1942) is up to its 18. Lebensjahr grown up in its country of origin, the Congo. it fled 1962 before the effects of the cold war and the fight between socialism and capitalism in Africa to Germany. Here it studied first electro-technology and Paedagogik and was then in the apprentice training actively, later also than educators and therapist. That led it finally to its new study of theology and in the connection 1988 to the establishment and line of the African Oekumenischen church in Berlin.
Minister Pierre Botembe
As in the meantime in-patriated Germans it engages itself besides against racingism and integration of Migranten. Minister Botembe is marriage and has five children and speaks German and French.
It of the Muslim market interviewt on the symposium for the year of the prophet Muhammed (s.) with the title: The prophet Muhammed (s.) Its behavior, its character, on the minister Botembe speaker was.
Mm: First of all thank you that you participate on this conference. Can you call it us intentions, which induces you to speak with Muslims over the prophets Muhammad?
Botembe: There prophet Muhammad such as Moses, Jesus and all prophets are not only for Muslims, but for whole mankind. There they are, in order to make us clear, how we can reach our connection to G-d again. And for me as a Christian it is my task to employ me with the thoughts of the Christianity to induce in order to reach on it constructing together with Muslims a way, mankind to the honour of G-d. Those are my motives, in order to be on this meeting thereby.
Mm: Now you come from a continent, in which the relations between Christians and Muslims a completely different one is, than we have it here in Germany. Perhaps can you say to it some words to us?
Botembe: That is historically conditioned. To us the Christians came in the course of the colonialism and the dominance of western humans. However the church and/or the religion is the Christianity in Germany, in Europe, and the Christianity has to arrange itself fear apart from other religions. We (in Africa) have the Christianity gotten by colonialism with a European packing, which finally that the African should submit, Christianity meant, with which the European should be regarded as a gentleman, who wanted to dominate the African. In Germany the Religiositaet is a tradition. And the Christians go to Weihnacht into the church out of tradition. And the faith is not deeply embodied. And I, as a Christian, learned Muslims to know in Berlin, and their deep Religiositaet helped me to deepen my own Christianity. Thus I in the Bible, I read read in the Qur'an, determine I, how large G-d is, how it is in different way, as he appears in different features, but in the core a G-d is, and my admiration receives.
Mm: Would you say then e.g. that the Christianity, which is lived in Africa stands for the Islam much more near, as possibly to the Christianity in Europe?
Botembe: Yes, which one could express in such a way. We begin e.g. with the values: To respect to live the values older humans to be informal the good relations with neighbours to look for the community the faith together - like that it is also in the Orient, in Iran, in Morocco. The European Christian however is a single human being, an individual, its faith is often private thing, one has with one another few to do. Therefore the African Christianity has a special proximity to the Islam.
Mm: We come now to your municipality here into Berlin. Would you present kindly its municipality a little to us? And which was the reason to create and lead a particularly African oriented municipality here in Berlin?
Botembe: We African Christians feel us strangely, expenditure-bordered in Germany, as a Christian country, and hardly feel Christian solidarity. If we go into a German Christian church, then we are guests however not as brothers are regarded there. And we feel certain isolation. If however German or European Christians come to us, then we were received them as Christians. We however often feel cold weather. For this reason we created the African Afrikanisch-Oekumeni church, so that we can live and experience our faith as Christians, while maintaining our character and our mentality. And our church is also open for German Christians. Gladly we want to experience the thing in common together.
Mm: Do you have to convert also the opportunity these thing in common with local Christians in practice?
Botembe: Yes, once in the month we organize a common service with Germans and African. And particulars go taking thereby also to the German church and at their service part. We call the Oekumenik in the basis.
Mm: We make a last thought jump. They very positively expressed themselves in certain expressions for Islamic revolution in Iran. Can you describe from the view of an African Christian for the local Christians, because it appears somewhat incomprehensible for some local Christians in the first moment?
Botembe: The Islamic revolution in Iran is a religious revolution and has its cause in the deep mental anchorage Islam among the Muslims in Iran. That is, those have themselves thoughts made mankind and their relationship to science and technology, how is the way, where the way goes? Does one want a mental orientation? They are finally disappointed by the European values and the European reliablenesses. They are disappointed and stated that in Europe and in Christian Europe Muslims do not find a place. Where do Muslim humans remain? Thereupon they looked for the sense of their faith and wanted this to deepen, in order also their would repair. They want to orient themselves at their faith in their society with G-d in the center. And that is the cause of this revolution. However in Europe it is not understood correctly because the fear have that if this revolution develops, then humans would more religiously be oriented, so that they consume less then. And if they consume less, then is a danger for the western economy. That is my opinion in addition.
Mm: If however humans would recognize the problem here and would see that thereby a humanity can be protected, couldn't one together attain then a way between at the moment also capitalism criticized in the west and a new way?
Botembe: In addition the European clergymen and the Muslim clergymen would have to work together, around a common way to find for mankind and the human development, so that they open the way. Accordingly may not be forgotten that it religious affair is, and gives it a mental enemy, who also always tries to do somewhat against it. That may not be forgotten.
Mm: Mr. Pastor Botembe, we thank for the interview.
Botembe: I thank you also.
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--- Quote from: cjd on October 09, 2007, 04:33:48 PM ---
--- Quote from: mord on October 09, 2007, 04:26:25 PM ---The German pastor Pierre Botembe is German he looks like he may be from another country
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Yes he looks a little dark to be a native German ::)
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JUDE.. oups Zionists RAUS once again from Germany! :o and from the mouth of rascist schwartza nazi! I woud :::D If i was not so frickin' >:( .
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