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Dr. Dan:

--- Quote from: OdKahaneChai on January 27, 2008, 09:32:27 PM ---OdKahaneChai: Can you please explain, for a friend of mine, why a woman
 is allowed to wear a blouse, but not pants?
OdKahaneChai: He contends that it's the same concept, and that the
 Rabbonim are contradicting themselves
Rabbi Velvel: The reason Halachah discourages women from wearing pants
 is because the pant garment more clearly emphasizes the women's body
 outline as opposed to a skirt.
Rabbi Velvel: How can the same be said about the blouse?
Rabbi Velvel: Pants might be considered more suggestive and less
 concealing then a skirt/dress

--- End quote ---

Not entirely true...Those skirts can look really pretty on a woman.....

newman:

--- Quote from: OdKahaneChai on January 27, 2008, 09:32:27 PM ---OdKahaneChai: Can you please explain, for a friend of mine, why a woman
 is allowed to wear a blouse, but not pants?
OdKahaneChai: He contends that it's the same concept, and that the
 Rabbonim are contradicting themselves
Rabbi Velvel: The reason Halachah discourages women from wearing pants
 is because the pant garment more clearly emphasizes the women's body
 outline as opposed to a skirt.
Rabbi Velvel: How can the same be said about the blouse?
Rabbi Velvel: Pants might be considered more suggestive and less
 concealing then a skirt/dress

--- End quote ---
That answer does not explain why blouses are allowed since blouses clearly show as much (if not more) form than pants.

OdKahaneChai:

--- Quote from: Dr. Dan on January 27, 2008, 09:52:20 PM ---
--- Quote from: OdKahaneChai on January 27, 2008, 09:32:27 PM ---OdKahaneChai: Can you please explain, for a friend of mine, why a woman
 is allowed to wear a blouse, but not pants?
OdKahaneChai: He contends that it's the same concept, and that the
 Rabbonim are contradicting themselves
Rabbi Velvel: The reason Halachah discourages women from wearing pants
 is because the pant garment more clearly emphasizes the women's body
 outline as opposed to a skirt.
Rabbi Velvel: How can the same be said about the blouse?
Rabbi Velvel: Pants might be considered more suggestive and less
 concealing then a skirt/dress

--- End quote ---
Not entirely true...Those skirts can look really pretty on a woman.....

--- End quote ---
Who said anything about looking pretty?

Dr. Dan:

--- Quote from: OdKahaneChai on January 27, 2008, 10:03:44 PM ---
--- Quote from: Dr. Dan on January 27, 2008, 09:52:20 PM ---
--- Quote from: OdKahaneChai on January 27, 2008, 09:32:27 PM ---OdKahaneChai: Can you please explain, for a friend of mine, why a woman
 is allowed to wear a blouse, but not pants?
OdKahaneChai: He contends that it's the same concept, and that the
 Rabbonim are contradicting themselves
Rabbi Velvel: The reason Halachah discourages women from wearing pants
 is because the pant garment more clearly emphasizes the women's body
 outline as opposed to a skirt.
Rabbi Velvel: How can the same be said about the blouse?
Rabbi Velvel: Pants might be considered more suggestive and less
 concealing then a skirt/dress

--- End quote ---
Not entirely true...Those skirts can look really pretty on a woman.....

--- End quote ---
Who said anything about looking pretty?

--- End quote ---

So this rabbi suggests that a woman wearing pants shows off the shape of her body better than a skirt.  And the body can cause a man to stray from knowing the woman's brain.
However, if the pants are baggy or designed in such a way that it doesn't extentuate the body, it woud lhave to be permitted.
Therefore, it is not that pants are a man's clothing that a woman shouldn't wear it, but that she wearing pants may in fact compromise the modesty.
This type of modesty is a fence around the torah.
All i have to say is be careful of other fences that might come from this one..the next step might be wearing a burka, Gd forbid.

newman:

--- Quote from: Dr. Dan on January 27, 2008, 10:12:32 PM ---
--- Quote from: OdKahaneChai on January 27, 2008, 10:03:44 PM ---
--- Quote from: Dr. Dan on January 27, 2008, 09:52:20 PM ---
--- Quote from: OdKahaneChai on January 27, 2008, 09:32:27 PM ---OdKahaneChai: Can you please explain, for a friend of mine, why a woman
 is allowed to wear a blouse, but not pants?
OdKahaneChai: He contends that it's the same concept, and that the
 Rabbonim are contradicting themselves
Rabbi Velvel: The reason Halachah discourages women from wearing pants
 is because the pant garment more clearly emphasizes the women's body
 outline as opposed to a skirt.
Rabbi Velvel: How can the same be said about the blouse?
Rabbi Velvel: Pants might be considered more suggestive and less
 concealing then a skirt/dress

--- End quote ---
Not entirely true...Those skirts can look really pretty on a woman.....

--- End quote ---
Who said anything about looking pretty?

--- End quote ---

So this rabbi suggests that a woman wearing pants shows off the shape of her body better than a skirt.  And the body can cause a man to stray from knowing the woman's brain.
However, if the pants are baggy or designed in such a way that it doesn't extentuate the body, it woud lhave to be permitted.
Therefore, it is not that pants are a man's clothing that a woman shouldn't wear it, but that she wearing pants may in fact compromise the modesty.
This type of modesty is a fence around the torah.
All i have to say is be careful of other fences that might come from this one..the next step might be wearing a burka, Gd forbid.

--- End quote ---

There's a name for a man who can't look at a woman without being driven to a lustfull, raping frenzy............................a "muSSlim".

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