Is there collective punishment in Judaism? The left goes International ...

[edu]

This speaker is on the same wavelength as Chaim.

https://www.jewishpress.com/multimedia/radio/israel-news-talk-radio/jewish-truth-bomb/he-is-going-to-pay-for-that-grin-jewish-truth-bomb-audio/2023/01/31/

[Hrvatski Noahid]

A country whose sins outweigh its merits is liable to be destroyed (and the righteous would be saved).

[edu]

The Biblical Book of Numbers chapter 31 verses 7 to 18 did not make distinctions between "Good" Midianites and "Bad".

[edu]

See the book of Joshua chapter 2 verses 12 to 21 that explains why one group did merit to get better treatment than all the rest.

[Hrvatski Noahid]

Rabbi Weiner explains in the Divine Code, Third Edition, page 103, that righteous Gentiles would be saved.

The weighing of sins and merits is carried out according to the wisdom of the Knowing God. Only He knows how to measure merits against sins.

Chaim has no authority to weigh the sins and merits of Gentile countries.

[edu]

Go ask Rabbi Weiner [assuming he is still alive] if he denies the right of a country to wage a justified war against an enemy, because you claim:

The weighing of sins and merits is carried out according to the wisdom of the Knowing God. Only He knows how to measure merits against sins.

[Hrvatski Noahid]

Go ask Rabbi Weiner [assuming he is still alive] if he denies the right of a country to wage a justified war against an enemy, because you claim:

That's a quote from Rabbi Weiner.

[edu]

You are assuming the way G-d acts is the way people (who are very limited) are supposed to act.
This is not necessarily true.
I have another objection but I will let you deal with the first.

[edu]

The next talk from the same speaker:
Bibi’s bluff, Antisemitism and the Holocaust.
https://www.jewishpress.com/multimedia/radio/israel-news-talk-radio/jewish-truth-bomb/the-oylem-goylem-jewish-truth-bomb-audio/2023/02/13/

[Hrvatski Noahid]

You are assuming the way G-d acts is the way people (who are very limited) are supposed to act.
This is not necessarily true.
I have another objection but I will let you deal with the first.

On the contrary, people are not supposed to weigh sins and merits like God does.

[edu]

1 According to Rabbi Moshe Feinstein I am not obligated to explain to Hrvatski Noahid why he is not correct.
2 I do not wish to harm this web site.

[Hrvatski Noahid]

1 According to Rabbi Moshe Feinstein I am not obligated to explain to Hrvatski Noahid why he is not correct.
2 I do not wish to harm this web site.

Hahaha!!

Guys, I have a brain. A Gentile brain, but still. I know Jews are religiously obligated to teach Gentiles the Noahide laws.

Are Gentiles more or less likely to keep the 7 laws when you demonize them for defending themselves? (I don't believe they lose the right to self-defense when you call them Nazis.)

[edu]

Hahaha!!

Guys, I have a brain. A Gentile brain, but still. I know Jews are religiously obligated to teach Gentiles the Noahide laws.

Are Gentiles more or less likely to keep the 7 laws when you demonize them for defending themselves? (I don't believe they lose the right to self-defense when you call them Nazis.)

When 2 or more religious ideals clash, the rabbis have to figure out limitations of when to apply each ideal. If you don't want to believe me, don't believe me.
The next topic of the speaker that was the inspiration for this post, is the struggle against the Erev Rav and Abarbanel's explanation about the seven nations of Canaan.

To be honest if you accept Rabbi Shimon Bar Yochai's explanation on Exodus 23:33 (Mechilta De'Rabbi Shimon Bar Yochai) you really don't need Abarbanel's explanation.
In any case here is a link to the lecture.
https://www.jewishpress.com/multimedia/radio/israel-news-talk-radio/jewish-truth-bomb/bible-class/2023/03/14/

[Nachus]

                                                                                                                        

 Of yet one more thing we can be certain, that
 there is collective punishment for adherents of
 â€˜collective’ systems like communism.