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Title: Racism against blacks ?
Post by: Dexter on August 20, 2007, 05:04:33 PM
JTF - Racist movment against blacks ?
How can you actually proove that JTF isn't racist for blacks, saying that black culture is inferior to the "white" culture is a bit racist thing to say .
Also saying that USA should ofter the blacks ticket to Africa is a bit racist thing to say, because you can also saying that all the european should be back to Europe, Asians to Asia etc' .

What do you think ?
Title: Re: Racism against blacks ?
Post by: mord on August 20, 2007, 05:21:55 PM
Yes you do have a very good point
Title: Re: Racism against blacks ?
Post by: raiseyourfist on August 20, 2007, 06:04:28 PM
I totally agree with you Dexter i believe the evil ones should be disposed of but Chaim seems to give the impression that almost all blacks fall into this category...

Most blacks are not Muslims and the reason why they support people like Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton is simply because they are black.... most blacks are not evil and Chaim says that because they attribute to 70% of crimes in America they are to be hated... there is more to it than just simply voting for people who appear to be evil...

Title: Re: Racism against blacks ?
Post by: TheCoon on August 20, 2007, 06:23:22 PM
JTF's movement is not racist against blacks. Pointing out mainstream black culture is inferior and facts about black criminality is also not racist.

Using words like schvartza or calling them apes is racist though, and not helpful. Thing you gotta ask yourself is, how does using that language help the movement?
Title: Re: Racism against blacks ?
Post by: Shoshana on August 20, 2007, 06:46:28 PM
I agree with Chaim 100%. I haven't saw anything I would call racism against blacks come from Chaim.
I haven't saw too much by any posters that I think crosses the line. I don't see what's wrong with saying the blacks are an inferior race. Isn't that just stating the obvious. Don't you think they say the same about us?
Are all blacks scum? Certainly not. Are most? I would think voting and crime statistics on the issue prove that to be the case.
Title: Re: Racism against blacks ?
Post by: Mstislav on August 20, 2007, 07:04:05 PM
JTF's movement is not racist against blacks. Pointing out mainstream black culture is inferior and facts about black criminality is also not racist.

Using words like schvartza or calling them apes is racist though, and not helpful. Thing you gotta ask yourself is, how does using that language help the movement?

When referring to the criminal evil elements within the black community, it is perfectly acceptable to call them that.
Title: Re: Racism against blacks ?
Post by: Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks on August 20, 2007, 07:56:13 PM
Dexter, JTF does not say all blacks should return to Africa, just the criminal and racist ones. By voting results and opinion poll, that's about 95% of them.

Ask yourself, Dexter, why are almost all Arabs so evil? Well, almost as many blacks are bad.
Title: Re: Racism against blacks ?
Post by: ftf on August 20, 2007, 07:59:47 PM
Dexter, JTF does not say all blacks should return to Africa, just the criminal and racist ones. By voting results and opinion poll, that's about 95% of them.

Ask yourself, Dexter, why are almost all Arabs so evil? Well, almost as many blacks are bad.
C.F.: Didn't you notice the quotation marks around what Dexter posted, it's someone elses opinion, not his, he's asking for comments on what someone else has said.
Title: Re: Racism against blacks ?
Post by: Jasmina on August 20, 2007, 08:16:04 PM
Not all blacks are bad!!! every nation has its own bad people, like every forrest has its own dry trees...it`s not fair to put all of them in the same room! I come from Romania, country which in European Union is known that is full of Gypsies...but it`s not like that! Gypsies are bad, yes it`s true, but don`t think that all Romanians are Gypsies!!! please!!! don`t judge all the people the same like those who really deserve it!!!
Title: Re: Racism against blacks ?
Post by: judeanoncapta on August 20, 2007, 10:00:29 PM
I don't think that there is a single Black nationalist group that sits around wringing it's hands about it's anti-semitism and anti-white racism.

Why should the counter movement be any less forceful?
Title: Re: Racism against blacks ?
Post by: raiseyourfist on August 20, 2007, 10:05:04 PM
Not all blacks are bad!!! every nation has its own bad people, like every forrest has its own dry trees...it`s not fair to put all of them in the same room! I come from Romania, country which in European Union is known that is full of Gypsies...but it`s not like that! Gypsies are bad, yes it`s true, but don`t think that all Romanians are Gypsies!!! please!!! don`t judge all the people the same like those who really deserve it!!!

OH FOR THE LOVE OF SWEET HONEYCAKE... He isn't saying that no one is and where your coming from is a very valid point... no one on here is racist and if they were they would be booted out of this organization...

no need to make these kind of statements because our sentiments are just the same as yours on the matter
Title: Re: Racism against blacks ?
Post by: Jasmina on August 20, 2007, 10:13:23 PM
Not all blacks are bad!!! every nation has its own bad people, like every forrest has its own dry trees...it`s not fair to put all of them in the same room! I come from Romania, country which in European Union is known that is full of Gypsies...but it`s not like that! Gypsies are bad, yes it`s true, but don`t think that all Romanians are Gypsies!!! please!!! don`t judge all the people the same like those who really deserve it!!!

OH FOR THE LOVE OF SWEET HONEYCAKE... He isn't saying that no one is and where your coming from is a very valid point... no one on here is racist and if they were they would be booted out of this organization...

no need to make these kind of statements because our sentiments are just the same as yours on the matter
   :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ I'm so embarrassed!!!!
Title: Re: Racism against blacks ?
Post by: mosquewatch on August 20, 2007, 10:21:53 PM
If anyone on this forum calls Blacks as a sub human species.


The arab muslims say the same thing about the Jews.

How can we be against our enemy, while agreeing with them about some one else ?
Title: Re: Racism against blacks ?
Post by: raiseyourfist on August 20, 2007, 10:34:54 PM
THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN US AND THEM MOSQUEWATCH IS THAT THEY CATORGORIZE ALL JEWS AND SOME ALSO SAY ALL CHRISTIANS ARE AS EVIL TOO....


WE DONT DO THAT WE ACCEPT THERE ARE SOME MUSLIMS AND BLACKS THAT DON'T FIT THEIR STEREOTYPES AND HATEFUL COMMENTS AND ACTS TOWARDS US....

YOU CAN STILL HATE AN ENEMY WITHOUT SAYING THEY ARE ALL AGAINST US LIKE ROY INNES WHO IS A BIG SUPPORTER OF ISRAEL... MOST BLACKS HOWEVER DO NOT AGREE WITH HIM
Title: Re: Racism against blacks ?
Post by: raiseyourfist on August 20, 2007, 10:40:15 PM
that said there is no way of really knowing where the truth lies and the breakdown of good and evil blacks...

I believe that a lot of blacks support these evil people because they think they are doing the right thing

In other words many of them are uninformed...
Title: Re: Racism against blacks ?
Post by: cjd on August 20, 2007, 10:42:38 PM
I think Chaim is very fair on the subject he always say its not the skin color its the deeds that makes a person good or bad. And as he also says the vast majority of blacks are evil. I also agree on this 100%. For me when I see a black person I work from a very guarded position until I see how they are. Now and then I am surprised and I actually have some very good acquaintances that are black and are very fine folks. For the most part however I have have found most blacks are not folks I would want to socialize with.
Title: Re: Racism against blacks ?
Post by: Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks on August 20, 2007, 11:48:10 PM
C.F.: Didn't you notice the quotation marks around what Dexter posted, it's someone elses opinion, not his, he's asking for comments on what someone else has said.
I didn't notice that, but in any case I was very respectful in my response. Why would I be angry with Dexter if I thought he was asking a legitimate question about one of our opinions (which I did)?
Title: Re: Racism against blacks ?
Post by: Boeregeneraal on August 20, 2007, 11:56:15 PM
take it from someone that comes from Africa, and has seen the REAL africa-MOST blacks (about +95%) are evil. And if anyone disagrees with me, go live in africa!

As for blacks being inferior, if you don't agree with that-you've been sleeping!

Tell me what the black man has invented? Has the black man himself, crossed any ocean? No!

The damn list goes on.

So, if anyone thinks that not all (less than 95%) of blacks are bad news, I have one thing to say-live in Africa for 3 months-and we will talk again! In fact, you will dislike blacks more than any Afrikaaner/Boer does!
Title: Re: Racism against blacks ?
Post by: newman on August 21, 2007, 12:01:01 AM
We have to be careful about not falling in to the moral equivelence lie created by the liberals. Hating evil people because THEY hate ALL Jews and whites does NOT make us the same!

Seriel rapists hate all wmen. Are we as bad as them if we hate all seriel rapists?....Come on!
Title: Re: Racism against blacks ?
Post by: raiseyourfist on August 21, 2007, 12:03:06 AM
its funny because as i read these comments im listening to Bob Marley whilst watching the NBA on television
Title: Re: Racism against blacks ?
Post by: TheCoon on August 21, 2007, 12:11:59 AM
Whether or not you think blacks are bad people, the majority of people don't have an overly negative view of blacks. Using words like [censored] and calling them apes will only drive average people away.
Title: Re: Racism against blacks ?
Post by: DownwithIslam on August 21, 2007, 12:22:33 AM
Thundebolt I totally disagree. Most whites do not like blacks. It's just that they are insane and allowed their govt to let the blacks run loose. It's sort of like in Israel where most of the country hates arabs but they end up voting in drek. The word shvartza simply means a black person in yiddish. Shvartza is the color black in yiddish. When we use that term, we are simply saying black people in another language. I know this because I speak yiddish. Should I start referring to them as tinkler menchen which means dark people in yiddish?
Using these terms is no big deal. If we came on here and started encouraging people to run loose in the street and cause damage to shvartzas, then I would agree with you in saying that we would turn people off. We don't do that and using strong words against a group who is currently flocking to islam and has a history of jealous anti semitism is no big deal.
Title: Re: Racism against blacks ?
Post by: Joe Schmo on August 21, 2007, 12:27:47 AM
its funny because as i read these comments im listening to Bob Marley whilst watching the NBA on television

That's not good.
Title: Re: Racism against blacks ?
Post by: Joe Schmo on August 21, 2007, 12:29:53 AM
Whether or not you think blacks are bad people, the majority of people don't have an overly negative view of blacks. Using words like schvartza and calling them apes will only drive average people away.

Schwarze is not like saying ape.
Title: Re: Racism against blacks ?
Post by: newman on August 21, 2007, 12:31:19 AM
If you take ALL age groups into account, I think most people dislike the majority of blacks. It's just that they are terrorised into not speaking out by the PC atmosphere created by the cultural elite.
Title: Re: Racism against blacks ?
Post by: Dexter on August 21, 2007, 12:44:58 AM
take it from someone that comes from Africa, and has seen the REAL africa-MOST blacks (about +95%) are evil. And if anyone disagrees with me, go live in africa!

As for blacks being inferior, if you don't agree with that-you've been sleeping!

Tell me what the black man has invented? Has the black man himself, crossed any ocean? No!

The damn list goes on.

So, if anyone thinks that not all (less than 95%) of blacks are bad news, I have one thing to say-live in Africa for 3 months-and we will talk again! In fact, you will dislike blacks more than any Afrikaaner/Boer does!
Blacks aren't inferior, the time has past for colonialistic way of veiw .
Besides, how can you say 95% of the blacks are evil ? how can you say that, do you know each black in person that you can say that ?
I know you are from south africa, so let's make a deal, every white will back to Europe, all blacks back to Africa .
That's fair .
欧爱德
Title: Re: Racism against blacks ?
Post by: DownwithIslam on August 21, 2007, 12:59:12 AM
Hehe dexter, I disagree a little. If 94% of blacks voted for al sharpton than 94% are evil which is an overwhelming majority.
Title: Re: Racism against blacks ?
Post by: Joe Schmo on August 21, 2007, 12:59:39 AM
take it from someone that comes from Africa, and has seen the REAL africa-MOST blacks (about +95%) are evil. And if anyone disagrees with me, go live in africa!

As for blacks being inferior, if you don't agree with that-you've been sleeping!

Tell me what the black man has invented? Has the black man himself, crossed any ocean? No!

The damn list goes on.

So, if anyone thinks that not all (less than 95%) of blacks are bad news, I have one thing to say-live in Africa for 3 months-and we will talk again! In fact, you will dislike blacks more than any Afrikaaner/Boer does!
Blacks aren't inferior, the time has past for colonialistic way of veiw .
Besides, how can you say 95% of the blacks are evil ? how can you say that, do you know each black in person that you can say that ?
Of course blacks aren't inferior.

Its just like Chaim said on this weeks Ask JTF, "just look at the advanced civilization in the jungles of Kenya."
Title: Re: Racism against blacks ?
Post by: Dexter on August 21, 2007, 01:04:15 AM
take it from someone that comes from Africa, and has seen the REAL africa-MOST blacks (about +95%) are evil. And if anyone disagrees with me, go live in africa!

As for blacks being inferior, if you don't agree with that-you've been sleeping!

Tell me what the black man has invented? Has the black man himself, crossed any ocean? No!

The damn list goes on.

So, if anyone thinks that not all (less than 95%) of blacks are bad news, I have one thing to say-live in Africa for 3 months-and we will talk again! In fact, you will dislike blacks more than any Afrikaaner/Boer does!
Blacks aren't inferior, the time has past for colonialistic way of veiw .
Besides, how can you say 95% of the blacks are evil ? how can you say that, do you know each black in person that you can say that ?
I know you are from south africa, so let's make a deal, every white will back to Europe, all blacks back to Africa .
That's fair .
欧爱德
Of course blacks aren't inferior.

Its just like Chaim said on this weeks Ask JTF, "just look at the advanced civilization in the jungles of Kenya."
Some people are more advanced than the others, that's make you better of tham and making tham genetic inferior or with inferior culture ? that's racism .

And why voting for Al Sharpton makes you evil ?
Title: Re: Racism against blacks ?
Post by: Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks on August 21, 2007, 01:06:13 AM
I think Boere was saying inferior as a group, not genetically. He should know. After the ANC took power in South Africa, the country plunged into the sewer. Crime rates that are the highest of any country on the planet (and like in America, most is actually black-on-BLACK crime), 30% of the population dying of AIDS, savage superstitions like sex with a virgin or child curing HIV being given official legitimacy... come on, how can you not say he is right>
Title: Re: Racism against blacks ?
Post by: raiseyourfist on August 21, 2007, 01:06:56 AM
Theres nothing more exilerating than pointing out the shortcomings of others is there
Title: Re: Racism against blacks ?
Post by: Dexter on August 21, 2007, 01:16:16 AM
I think Boere was saying inferior as a group, not genetically. He should know. After the ANC took power in South Africa, the country plunged into the sewer. Crime rates that are the highest of any country on the planet (and like in America, most is actually black-on-BLACK crime), 30% of the population dying of AIDS, savage superstitions like sex with a virgin or child curing HIV being given official legitimacy... come on, how can you not say he is right>
Because i'm not racist (?)
Title: Re: Racism against blacks ?
Post by: Boeregeneraal on August 21, 2007, 01:26:01 AM
take it from someone that comes from Africa, and has seen the REAL africa-MOST blacks (about +95%) are evil. And if anyone disagrees with me, go live in africa!

As for blacks being inferior, if you don't agree with that-you've been sleeping!

Tell me what the black man has invented? Has the black man himself, crossed any ocean? No!

The damn list goes on.

So, if anyone thinks that not all (less than 95%) of blacks are bad news, I have one thing to say-live in Africa for 3 months-and we will talk again! In fact, you will dislike blacks more than any Afrikaaner/Boer does!
Blacks aren't inferior, the time has past for colonialistic way of veiw .
Besides, how can you say 95% of the blacks are evil ? how can you say that, do you know each black in person that you can say that ?
I know you are from south africa, so let's make a deal, every white will back to Europe, all blacks back to Africa .
That's fair .
欧爱德

Ok dexter, here's the deal, every Jew in Israel that has european blood-back to europe!
Every Jew in the US goes back to either Israel or Europe.

You see, the ball turns both ways.

Besides, if all whites leave africa, Americas australia etc, do you think the Chinese and arabs are just going to sit and do nothing?! No my friend, they will colonise those continents as fast as a rats ass! And do you think they will allow other cultures except their own? NO!, they will damned well exterminate the natives!

And the picture also doesn't look to good for the west or Jews, as the evil nations will use the resources of their new continents to wipe the west and israel of the face of the earth!!

mmmm....what a great deal!!! :-\
Title: Re: Racism against blacks ?
Post by: DownwithIslam on August 21, 2007, 01:27:44 AM
Voting for Al Sharpton is makes you evil because al sharpton is a monster jew hater. He incited the crown heights pogrom which killed yankel rosenbaum and injured many moore. He has called jews and whites all sorts of names. I am sure people on this forum can list even more stuff he did. Blacks also voted overwhelmingly for jesse hymietown jackson who called israel hell and said its a poisonous weed whic must be plucked from the middle east. blacks are evil period. Of course you will have exceptions to the rule though.
Title: Re: Racism against blacks ?
Post by: Boeregeneraal on August 21, 2007, 01:28:40 AM
you see dexter, if jews return back to europe, they will be oppressed.
When the Boers return to europe return to europe, they will be oppressed.


{If someone is asking why the Boers will be oppressed? It is because the Boers, just like the Jews, were being genocided, and so fled to the shores of the Cape} Read up on the Hueguehnots.

Title: Re: Racism against blacks ?
Post by: Dexter on August 21, 2007, 01:31:32 AM
But the Jews with the european blood are part of the Jewish people, that his homeland is Israel, that's the diffrent. And I have no problem that all Jews from the US will come here either .

I didn't actually said you should go back to Europe, I said, as you want the blacks back to Africa, you should go back to Europe, the blacks will control their land, you will control yours and the indians will control their land, graet deal . Not !
Title: Re: Racism against blacks ?
Post by: raiseyourfist on August 21, 2007, 01:35:06 AM
Voting for Al Sharpton is makes you evil because al sharpton is a monster jew hater. He incited the crown heights pogrom which killed yankel rosenbaum and injured many moore. He has called jews and whites all sorts of names. I am sure people on this forum can list even more stuff he did. Blacks also voted overwhelmingly for jesse hymietown jackson who called israel hell and said its a poisonous weed whic must be plucked from the middle east. blacks are evil period. Of course you will have exceptions to the rule though.

Blacks vote for blacks no matter what they say...

There brainwashed by the truely evil black leaders who do seek israel's distruction
Title: Re: Racism against blacks ?
Post by: Dexter on August 21, 2007, 01:36:45 AM
Voting for Al Sharpton is makes you evil because al sharpton is a monster jew hater. He incited the crown heights pogrom which killed yankel rosenbaum and injured many moore. He has called jews and whites all sorts of names. I am sure people on this forum can list even more stuff he did. Blacks also voted overwhelmingly for jesse hymietown jackson who called israel hell and said its a poisonous weed whic must be plucked from the middle east. blacks are evil period. Of course you will have exceptions to the rule though.

Blacks vote for blacks no matter what they say...

There brainwashed by the truely evil black leaders who do seek israel's distruction
+
Who said they voted for him BECAUSE he's jew hater ?
Title: Re: Racism against blacks ?
Post by: Boeregeneraal on August 21, 2007, 01:39:29 AM
Dexter, one has to be honest with one self. Blacks' IQ's are the equavalant of White Children. The thing is, if one does not acknowledge this fact, then it's the black man that suffers from it.

e.g

You see a black man on the street, and decide to purchase him a shop. YOu just spend a few hundred thousand dollars buying him a store. Now, because the white man is ignorant, thinking that the black man is just as smart as him (or atleast, smart), he leaves the black man and his new shop, and never sees him again, because white man has to believe that black man can manage and run his new shop. But, as history has time and time again proven, the store goes bankrupt etc.

You see, but if the white man acknowledged that the black man was not like the white man, he would have helped the black man in some way to run the store.

ANyway, this is just an example...if you want another, just look at post-colonial africa!
Title: Re: Racism against blacks ?
Post by: newman on August 21, 2007, 01:40:00 AM
Voting for Al Sharpton is makes you evil because al sharpton is a monster jew hater. He incited the crown heights pogrom which killed yankel rosenbaum and injured many moore. He has called jews and whites all sorts of names. I am sure people on this forum can list even more stuff he did. Blacks also voted overwhelmingly for jesse hymietown jackson who called israel hell and said its a poisonous weed whic must be plucked from the middle east. blacks are evil period. Of course you will have exceptions to the rule though.

Blacks vote for blacks no matter what they say...

There brainwashed by the truely evil black leaders who do seek israel's distruction
+
Who said they voted for him BECAUSE he's jew hater ?

Dexter....If a German voted for the nazi Hitler because they liked his road building policy, they are still evil.
Title: Re: Racism against blacks ?
Post by: Dexter on August 21, 2007, 01:42:53 AM
Voting for Al Sharpton is makes you evil because al sharpton is a monster jew hater. He incited the crown heights pogrom which killed yankel rosenbaum and injured many moore. He has called jews and whites all sorts of names. I am sure people on this forum can list even more stuff he did. Blacks also voted overwhelmingly for jesse hymietown jackson who called israel hell and said its a poisonous weed whic must be plucked from the middle east. blacks are evil period. Of course you will have exceptions to the rule though.

Blacks vote for blacks no matter what they say...

There brainwashed by the truely evil black leaders who do seek israel's distruction
+
Who said they voted for him BECAUSE he's jew hater ?

Dexter....If a German voted for the nazi Hitler because they liked his road building policy, they are still evil.
Hitler's main ideology was anti-jewish and anti minoritys in Germany, how can you compare ?

Boeregeneraal :
A. Give me prooves about that blacks aren't smart as whites .
B. So you admite you think the are genetic inferior.
Title: Re: Racism against blacks ?
Post by: Boeregeneraal on August 21, 2007, 01:44:29 AM
But the Jews with the european blood are part of the Jewish people, that his homeland is Israel, that's the diffrent. And I have no problem that all Jews from the US will come here either .

I didn't actually said you should go back to Europe, I said, as you want the blacks back to Africa, you should go back to Europe, the blacks will control their land, you will control yours and the indians will control their land, graet deal . Not !

Yes you are right Dexter, Israel belongs to the Jews. But how will you explain that to a person who is not religios???
After all, according to the atheists and irreligious, Jews colonised Israel-and so, are on the smae page as the Boers.

I did NOT say blacks should go back to Africa.
Title: Re: Racism against blacks ?
Post by: Dexter on August 21, 2007, 01:47:10 AM
But the Jews with the european blood are part of the Jewish people, that his homeland is Israel, that's the diffrent. And I have no problem that all Jews from the US will come here either .

I didn't actually said you should go back to Europe, I said, as you want the blacks back to Africa, you should go back to Europe, the blacks will control their land, you will control yours and the indians will control their land, graet deal . Not !

Yes you are right Dexter, Israel belongs to the Jews. But how will you explain that to a person who is not religios???
After all, according to the atheists and irreligious, Jews colonised Israel-and so, are on the smae page as the Boers.

I did NOT say blacks should go back to Africa.
It's isn't about religios, Zionism was seculer movment and we have HISTORICAL right on it .
Besides, we don't have "mother state", we don't slave the arabs, WE ARE the natives of Israel .
Title: Re: Racism against blacks ?
Post by: Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks on August 21, 2007, 01:48:33 AM
Dexter and Boere, please stop fighting each other. I know you are both great people.

Dexter, Boere is a white South African and he knows how blacks are from firsthand experience.

Boere, Dexter is a thirteen-year-old kid. Give him a chance to learn about blacks. I don't think they are GENETICALLY inferior either, they just have a base culture and way of life.
Title: Re: Racism against blacks ?
Post by: newman on August 21, 2007, 01:48:55 AM
Voting for Al Sharpton is makes you evil because al sharpton is a monster jew hater. He incited the crown heights pogrom which killed yankel rosenbaum and injured many moore. He has called jews and whites all sorts of names. I am sure people on this forum can list even more stuff he did. Blacks also voted overwhelmingly for jesse hymietown jackson who called israel hell and said its a poisonous weed whic must be plucked from the middle east. blacks are evil period. Of course you will have exceptions to the rule though.

Blacks vote for blacks no matter what they say...

There brainwashed by the truely evil black leaders who do seek israel's distruction
+
Who said they voted for him BECAUSE he's jew hater ?

Dexter....If a German voted for the nazi Hitler because they liked his road building policy, they are still evil.
Hitler's main ideology was anti-jewish and anti minoritys in Germany, how can you compare ?

Boeregeneraal :
A. Give me prooves about that blacks aren't smart as whites .
B. So you admite you think the are genetic inferior.

Al Sharpton makes NO secret about his hatred of Jews. It may not be as cental to his platform as it was with hitler, but the priciple is the same. To support evil IS evil.
Title: Re: Racism against blacks ?
Post by: Boeregeneraal on August 21, 2007, 01:50:02 AM
Voting for Al Sharpton is makes you evil because al sharpton is a monster jew hater. He incited the crown heights pogrom which killed yankel rosenbaum and injured many moore. He has called jews and whites all sorts of names. I am sure people on this forum can list even more stuff he did. Blacks also voted overwhelmingly for jesse hymietown jackson who called israel hell and said its a poisonous weed whic must be plucked from the middle east. blacks are evil period. Of course you will have exceptions to the rule though.

Blacks vote for blacks no matter what they say...

There brainwashed by the truely evil black leaders who do seek israel's distruction
+
Who said they voted for him BECAUSE he's jew hater ?

Dexter....If a German voted for the nazi Hitler because they liked his road building policy, they are still evil.
Hitler's main ideology was anti-jewish and anti minoritys in Germany, how can you compare ?

Boeregeneraal :
A. Give me prooves about that blacks aren't smart as whites .
B. So you admite you think the are genetic inferior.

A. Visit www.africancrisis.co.za -and use the search engine with the following keywoards " black IQ " - i will try to get that page for you.
But you should not even need to look at those statistics - just look at Africa, just look at South Africa, our presidents were schooled in the best universities in the world, and yet, they still [censored] south africa up!

Dexter, once again, i have lived with these people for my whole live- i know them. Have you lived with 40million blacks next to you?

B. YES YES YES. They are inferior. BUT, that does NOT mean that they can then be exploited.(and they NEVER were in South Africa)
Title: Re: Racism against blacks ?
Post by: Dexter on August 21, 2007, 01:52:33 AM
How can you be racist, it's one of the "advenced" ideas of White men .
Title: Re: Racism against blacks ?
Post by: Dexter on August 21, 2007, 01:53:01 AM
Dexter and Boere, please stop fighting each other. I know you are both great people.

Dexter, Boere is a white South African and he knows how blacks are from firsthand experience.

Boere, Dexter is a thirteen-year-old kid. Give him a chance to learn about blacks. I don't think they are GENETICALLY inferior either, they just have a base culture and way of life.
We are not fighting...
Title: Re: Racism against blacks ?
Post by: Boeregeneraal on August 21, 2007, 01:53:21 AM
You are right CF

He is still young (but he is VERY mature  ;) ), and has not experienced blacks-and i hope he never has to.

I shall not comment on his last posts.

No hard feelings Dex  ;)
Title: Re: Racism against blacks ?
Post by: Dexter on August 21, 2007, 01:56:21 AM
You are right CF

He is still young (but he is VERY mature  ;) ), and has not experienced blacks-and i hope he never has to.

I shall not comment on his last posts.

No hard feelings Dex  ;)
But don't you think that by saying that blacks are inferior will tagg us as evil racist ?
Did kahane ever said blacks are inferior ?
Title: Re: Racism against blacks ?
Post by: Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks on August 21, 2007, 01:59:31 AM
I think blacks are inferior because they choose to be. No human is born inferior. All people have the same capacity to choose good and evil or to learn as much or as little as they want.
Title: Re: Racism against blacks ?
Post by: Dexter on August 21, 2007, 02:00:59 AM
I think blacks are inferior because they choose to be. No human is born inferior. All people have the same capacity to choose good and evil or to learn as much or as little as they want.
You tagged tham as inferiors, they didn't choos to be considerd as inferiors .
Title: Re: Racism against blacks ?
Post by: Boeregeneraal on August 21, 2007, 02:01:16 AM
when i say inferior, i mean:

They are not the smartest out there  :-\
It's really hard to explain, you need to go to africa, and experience it for yourself.

But hey, they are fast runners!
Title: Re: Racism against blacks ?
Post by: Boeregeneraal on August 21, 2007, 02:03:05 AM
I think blacks are inferior because they choose to be. No human is born inferior. All people have the same capacity to choose good and evil or to learn as much or as little as they want.
You tagged tham as inferiors, they didn't choos to be considerd as inferiors .

But then Dexter, you give a black EVERYTHING he needs in terms of education, and yet...(we all know the answer)
Title: Re: Racism against blacks ?
Post by: newman on August 21, 2007, 02:03:43 AM
I think blacks are inferior because they choose to be. No human is born inferior. All people have the same capacity to choose good and evil or to learn as much or as little as they want.
You tagged tham as inferiors, they didn't choos to be considerd as inferiors .
But they chose to BE inferior. If I choose to go on welfare and drink all the time instead of working, I am CHOOSING to be inferior.
Title: Re: Racism against blacks ?
Post by: Dexter on August 21, 2007, 02:06:17 AM
I think blacks are inferior because they choose to be. No human is born inferior. All people have the same capacity to choose good and evil or to learn as much or as little as they want.
You tagged tham as inferiors, they didn't choos to be considerd as inferiors .
But they chose to BE inferior. If I choose to go on welfare and drink all the time instead of working, I am CHOOSING to be inferior.
No, you are choosing to ruin your life, not to be inferior .
Title: Re: Racism against blacks ?
Post by: Boeregeneraal on August 21, 2007, 02:11:14 AM
Lets look at the Word "inferior" in the Dictionary:  

of lower quality
<Anna had always felt inferior to her brother due to poor school grades.>

of lower rank

----
Once again, look at the statistics regarding IQ


Dexter, PLEASE tell me, what has the black man invented?
Title: Re: Racism against blacks ?
Post by: newman on August 21, 2007, 02:13:52 AM
I think blacks are inferior because they choose to be. No human is born inferior. All people have the same capacity to choose good and evil or to learn as much or as little as they want.
You tagged tham as inferiors, they didn't choos to be considerd as inferiors .
But they chose to BE inferior. If I choose to go on welfare and drink all the time instead of working, I am CHOOSING to be inferior.
No, you are choosing to ruin your life, not to be inferior .

Adj. 1. inferior - of or characteristic of low rank or importance
subordinate, low-level - lower in rank or importance

No..... I would be choosing to be 'inferior'.
 

Title: Re: Racism against blacks ?
Post by: Dexter on August 21, 2007, 02:14:42 AM
Lets look at the Word "inferior" in the Dictionary:  

of lower quality
<Anna had always felt inferior to her brother due to poor school grades.>

of lower rank

----
Once again, look at the statistics regarding IQ


Dexter, PLEASE tell me, what has the black man invented?

I don't know .
But still, it only doing bad to JTF .
And what are the diffrents between ethiopian jews (that are only jews by religon, not ethnicly in my opinion) and the blacks in the USA or SA ?
Title: Re: Racism against blacks ?
Post by: Joe Schmo on August 21, 2007, 02:28:42 AM
Blacks ARE genetically inferior as far as intelligence is concerned.  This is my opinion.  I completely disagree with Chaim that blacks make a decision to be stupid.  

Blacks have dark skin because they (their ancestors) come from a hot and sunny climate.  Whites have light skin because they (their ancestors) come from a cold and cloudy climate.

A cold climate fosters certain traits in people just like a hot climate does.

In order to survive the cold country, people had to develop architecture, agriculture, animal husbandry, etc.  They had to use their brains to survive.

In the hot country, people hunt and gather because these areas tend to be abundant with food.  Furthermore, there is no need for advanced architecture, agriculture and other things in warm climate areas...usually.  Survival is, in many ways, easier in warm climate regions.

Now, that being said, the blacks of Africa have Lions, Rhinos, Hyenas, Snakes and other deadly creatures to deal with, and this demands PHYSICAL prowess.  This is why blacks tend to be athletic.  

The phrase 'white men can't jump' is true...but guess what, blacks cannot think.  Are there exceptions?  Of course.  But that's all they are.  Exceptions.

  
Title: Re: Racism against blacks ?
Post by: newman on August 21, 2007, 02:32:06 AM
Blacks ARE genetically inferior as far as intelligence is concerned.  This is my opinion.  I completely disagree with Chaim that blacks make a decision to be stupid.  

Blacks have dark skin because they (their ancestors) come from a hot and sunny climate.  Whites have light skin because they (their ancestors) come from a cold and cloudy climate.

A cold climate fosters certain traits in people just like a hot climate does.

In order to survive the cold country, people had to develop architecture, agriculture, animal husbandry, etc.  They had to use their brains to survive.

In the hot country, people hunt and gather because these areas tend to be abundant with food.  Furthermore, there is no need for advanced architecture, agriculture and other things in warm climate areas...usually.  Survival is, in many ways, easier in warm climate regions.

Now, that being said, the blacks of Africa have Lions, Rhinos, Hyenas, Snakes and other deadly creatures to deal with, and this demands PHYSICAL prowess.  This is why blacks tend to be athletic.  

The phrase 'white men can't jump' is true...but guess what, blacks cannot think.  Are there exceptions?  Of course.  But that's all they are.  Exceptions.

  

And it is 'exceptions' that prove the 'rule'.
Title: Re: Racism against blacks ?
Post by: Boeregeneraal on August 21, 2007, 02:34:58 AM
VERY well said Scriabin, VERY GOOD!  ;)
Title: Re: Racism against blacks ?
Post by: Shlomo on August 21, 2007, 02:35:40 AM
Voting for Al Sharpton or Jesse Jackson is evil and racist.

The common black culture today is disgusting and evil with the hip-hop, rap filth they call music. And the sex, idolatry, self gratification, objectifying of women, gang worship, majority of all crime and violence in the US, majority of welfare taking (even though they have more advantages through racist affirmative action programs, all black colleges, black college funds, tax breaks, and government help because they are black), majority of the drug problems here in the US, highest percent of illiterates, antisemitic Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton loving (over 90% voted for them) culture is disgusting, evil, and should be completely rejected.

You need to understand that while I feel that the majority of blacks in this country are involved in a despicable culture, there are those who are good. A Jew is a Jew no matter what color of skin they have and there are many black Jews. We DO NOT base our opinions on skin color. We base our opinions on the actions of groups of people (by group meaning those who group together for common causes) and it just so happens that blacks typically group together because of their own racism. This is unfortunate and I wish it was different. Still... there are some really good black people.

I think this debate is excellent! I agree with some of what every person in this thread has written.

I am very glad to see this intelligent debate and I am proud of you all! All of you have made an effort to make JTF a priority here. This type of debate will bring many new members to the forum. Wow... what excellent and smart members we have here.
Title: Re: Racism against blacks ?
Post by: judeanoncapta on August 21, 2007, 02:37:43 AM
How about being a little honest and admitting that IQ is atleast PARTIALLY hereditary?

I think that any honest person will realize that if only that poorer, less intelligent classes have babies as what is happening today in the world, we ARE IN SERIOUS TROUBLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The intelligent people will be breeded out of the human race and there may be serious de-evolution for hundreds if not thousands of years.

And Dexter, if you can name one country with a black majority that is not an absolute hellhole, I will eat my flat hat.
Title: Re: Racism against blacks ?
Post by: newman on August 21, 2007, 02:38:29 AM
Lets look at the Word "inferior" in the Dictionary:  

of lower quality
<Anna had always felt inferior to her brother due to poor school grades.>

of lower rank

----
Once again, look at the statistics regarding IQ


Dexter, PLEASE tell me, what has the black man invented?

I don't know .
But still, it only doing bad to JTF .
And what are the diffrents between ethiopian jews (that are only jews by religon, not ethnicly in my opinion) and the blacks in the USA or SA ?

The differences between Ethiopian Jews and blacks in the USA?

The majority of EJs CHOOSE to be moral, law-abiding, chaste and adhere to a superior civilised culture.

The majority of USA blacks CHOOSE to be immoral, criminal, breed bastard babies and adhere to an inferior savage culture.
Title: Re: Racism against blacks ?
Post by: Dexter on August 21, 2007, 02:39:21 AM
Lets look at the Word "inferior" in the Dictionary:  

of lower quality
<Anna had always felt inferior to her brother due to poor school grades.>

of lower rank

----
Once again, look at the statistics regarding IQ


Dexter, PLEASE tell me, what has the black man invented?

I don't know .
But still, it only doing bad to JTF .
And what are the diffrents between ethiopian jews (that are only jews by religon, not ethnicly in my opinion) and the blacks in the USA or SA ?

The differences between Ethiopian Jews and blacks in the USA?

The majority of EJs CHOOSE to be moral, law-abiding, chaste and adhere to a superior civilised culture.

The majority of USA blacks CHOOSE to be immoral, criminal, breed bastard babies and adhere to an inferior savage culture.
I'm talking about IQ .
Title: Re: Racism against blacks ?
Post by: judeanoncapta on August 21, 2007, 02:41:15 AM
Lets look at the Word "inferior" in the Dictionary:  

of lower quality
<Anna had always felt inferior to her brother due to poor school grades.>

of lower rank

----
Once again, look at the statistics regarding IQ


Dexter, PLEASE tell me, what has the black man invented?

I don't know .
But still, it only doing bad to JTF .
And what are the diffrents between ethiopian jews (that are only jews by religon, not ethnicly in my opinion) and the blacks in the USA or SA ?

The differences between Ethiopian Jews and blacks in the USA?

The majority of EJs CHOOSE to be moral, law-abiding, chaste and adhere to a superior civilised culture.

The majority of USA blacks CHOOSE to be immoral, criminal, breed bastard babies and adhere to an inferior savage culture.

That is true.

I once lived in a neighboorhood in Israel with hundreds of Ethiopian Jews.
They are nice.
They're probably the only blacks in the world that you don't fear physical violence from them.
The only bad thing I have to say about them is that they eat too much curry and dairy products.

That's it.
Title: Re: Racism against blacks ?
Post by: Dexter on August 21, 2007, 02:43:10 AM
than why using the words apes and shvartza (that was used in the past agains sfaradic jews), we don't need to talk about blacks, how does it help to JTF ?
Title: Re: Racism against blacks ?
Post by: Joe Schmo on August 21, 2007, 02:45:09 AM
Ethiopian Jews are EXACTLY the exception that I am speaking of.

They're Jews.  They're different than ordinary Ethiopians.
Title: Re: Racism against blacks ?
Post by: judeanoncapta on August 21, 2007, 02:45:21 AM
Ethiopian Jews and Gentiles for that matter don't look as ape-like as west Africans.

Some Ethiopian Jews have semitic noses. I have seen them with my own eyes.
Title: Re: Racism against blacks ?
Post by: Shlomo on August 21, 2007, 02:46:09 AM
How about being a little honest and admitting that IQ is atleast PARTIALLY hereditary?

I think that any honest person will realize that if only that poorer, less intelligent classes have babies as what is happening today in the world, we ARE IN SERIOUS TROUBLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The intelligent people will be breeded out of the human race and there may be serious de-evolution for hundreds if not thousands of years.

And Dexter, if you can name one country with a black majority that is not an absolute hellhole, I will eat my flat hat.

Judeanoncapta, each generation is less than the previous. This isn't due to de-evolution. This is because we get further and further away from the source.

Also, intelligence has nothing to do with it. Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson are very intelligent. We shouldn't be so judgmental on IQ. Those who are more simple are just as loved by the Creator. We shouldn't be so quick to judge DNA. G-d created every last bit of it.

It's all a matter of choices for good or for evil. There are some very smart and evil blacks, arabs, and whites.
Title: Re: Racism against blacks ?
Post by: Dexter on August 21, 2007, 02:46:55 AM
Ethiopian Jews and Gentiles for that matter don't look as ape-like as west Africans.

Some Ethiopian Jews have semitic noses. I have seen them with my own eyes.
Simetic noses ???
Title: Re: Racism against blacks ?
Post by: judeanoncapta on August 21, 2007, 02:48:31 AM
Sharpton and Jackson are intelligent!?!?!?!?!?!

Let me quote Rabbi Kahane on Jackson.

"Jackson is not intelligent, he's cunning. Like a snake."

Basic point. They are cunning and evil. NOT intelligent.
Title: Re: Racism against blacks ?
Post by: judeanoncapta on August 21, 2007, 02:49:35 AM
Ethiopian Jews and Gentiles for that matter don't look as ape-like as west Africans.

Some Ethiopian Jews have semitic noses. I have seen them with my own eyes.
Simetic noses ???

Meaning longer and thinner than African or European noses for that matter.
Title: Re: Racism against blacks ?
Post by: Dexter on August 21, 2007, 02:50:39 AM
Ethiopian Jews and Gentiles for that matter don't look as ape-like as west Africans.

Some Ethiopian Jews have semitic noses. I have seen them with my own eyes.
Simetic noses ???

Meaning longer and thinner than African or European noses for that matter.
i have no idea what simetic nose is, sorry .
Title: Re: Racism against blacks ?
Post by: Joe Schmo on August 21, 2007, 02:53:54 AM
Sharpton and Jackson are intelligent!?!?!?!?!?!

Let me quote Rabbi Kahane on Jackson.

"Jackson is not intelligent, he's cunning. Like a snake."

Basic point. They are cunning and evil. NOT intelligent.

"He's shrewd, like a snake."

A friend of mine and I were speaking about Charles Manson.  I said that Manson was intelligent. My friend replied, "I don't think that someone that bad could be that intelligent. Manson just puts all of his time into strategy...into the deception and controlling of others."

The same is true with Jackson and Sharpton.  They put all of their energy into their evil, selfish rackets, but they're not intelligent.
Title: Re: Racism against blacks ?
Post by: judeanoncapta on August 21, 2007, 02:56:41 AM
I guess if you grow up in Israel and pretty much everyone has semitic noses, Jew or Gentile, it's hard to explain the difference.

I grew up in America among mostly whites and I can certainly see different racial features between them.

Apparently you can't.

That's Ok.

You're not missing much. It's not that important.
Title: Re: Racism against blacks ?
Post by: Dexter on August 21, 2007, 02:56:58 AM
Sharpton and Jackson are intelligent!?!?!?!?!?!

Let me quote Rabbi Kahane on Jackson.

"Jackson is not intelligent, he's cunning. Like a snake."

Basic point. They are cunning and evil. NOT intelligent.

"He's shrewd, like a snake."

A friend of mine and I were speaking about Charles Manson.  I said that Manson was intelligent.  My friend replied, "I don't think that someone that bad could be that intelligent.  Manson just puts all of his time into strategy...into the deception and controlling of others."

The same is true with Jackson and Sharpton.  They put all of their energy into their evil, selfish rackets.
"Evil" is a point of veiw, Hitler thought he's a hero, we think he's Evil .
If someone is evil in your point of veiw, does it make him stupid ? of course not .
"Evil" people can be very intelligent.

judeanoncapta :
I can see who's slavic gentile, if that's helping .
Title: Re: Racism against blacks ?
Post by: Shlomo on August 21, 2007, 02:57:46 AM
You know what I'm saying... they can't claim that ignorance was the cause of their evil. They have higher IQ's... they just choose to use them for disgusting, racist, anti-semitic, deceptive, and utterly evil means.

cunning
■  adjective
    skilled in achieving one's ends by deceit or evasion.
    clever; ingenious.
■  noun
    craftiness.
    ingenuity.

It still makes my point on IQ. It has to do with decisions people make. IQ does not equal good or evil. I know some really good people who are simple.
Title: Re: Racism against blacks ?
Post by: judeanoncapta on August 21, 2007, 02:58:54 AM
I've had enough.

Good night, Dexter.
Title: Re: Racism against blacks ?
Post by: newman on August 21, 2007, 02:59:19 AM
Ethiopian Jews and Gentiles for that matter don't look as ape-like as west Africans.

Some Ethiopian Jews have semitic noses. I have seen them with my own eyes.
Simetic noses ???

Meaning longer and thinner than African or European noses for that matter.
i have no idea what simetic nose is, sorry .

Like in the cartoons the arabs draw of Jews. Or on this woman:

 (http://www.imagehosting.com/out.php/i1046381_babs.jpg) (http://www.imagehosting.com)

Title: Re: Racism against blacks ?
Post by: Dexter on August 21, 2007, 02:59:39 AM
I've had enough.

Good night, Dexter.
?
I said something wrong ?

newman-I have nose like that, just a little bit smaller .
Title: Re: Racism against blacks ?
Post by: Joe Schmo on August 21, 2007, 03:07:11 AM
VERY well said Scriabin, VERY GOOD!  ;)

Thanks, Boere.  Great minds think alike, at least in our case!  ;)
Title: Re: Racism against blacks ?
Post by: newman on August 21, 2007, 03:11:29 AM
I've had enough.

Good night, Dexter.
?
I said something wrong ?

newman-I have nose like that, just a little bit smaller .

That's not a side profile.

Trust me........you don't have a nose like Babs. And you don't want one. ;)
Title: Re: Racism against blacks ?
Post by: Boeregeneraal on August 21, 2007, 03:16:49 AM

 IQ does not equal good or evil.

I agree Jeff, but i think you misunderstand.

Im refering to IQ, that blacks are not the smartest bunch.
Title: Re: Racism against blacks ?
Post by: Boeregeneraal on August 21, 2007, 03:31:07 AM
The differences between Ethiopian Jews and blacks in the USA?

The majority of EJs CHOOSE to be moral, law-abiding, chaste and adhere to a superior civilised culture.

The majority of USA blacks CHOOSE to be immoral, criminal, breed bastard babies and adhere to an inferior savage culture.
I'm just wondering, are the non-Muslim blacks living in Europe also just as degenerate as the Africans/US blacks?

Yes. Look at the problems the French are having.
It's interesting, that since blacks have migrated to france in the large numbers we see today, the French economy is begining to deterioate.

Look at Brazil, there is a very large black population there-look at what sort of problems the brazilians have...

The story is the same all over the world  :(
Title: Re: Racism against blacks ?
Post by: Boeregeneraal on August 21, 2007, 03:36:01 AM
Newman, I think you would know what i am talking about.

It's once again interesting to note, that in the last few months, crime in australia has skyrocketed.

NOw, lets look at whats been happening in the last few months:
Black "refugees" as well as those with VISA's, have flooded the australian continent.

---

Now the sort of crimes and vicous assaults, that i saw EVERYDAY in africa, are starting in australia-all since thousands of blacks have immigrated.


Do YOU see a pattern here? :-\
Title: Re: Racism against blacks ?
Post by: newman on August 21, 2007, 03:38:31 AM
Newman, I think you would know what i am talking about.

It's once again interesting to note, that in the last few months, crime in australia has skyrocketed.

NOw, lets look at whats been happening in the last few months:
Black "refugees" as well as those with VISA's, have flooded the australian continent.

---

Now the sort of crimes and vicous assaults, that i saw EVERYDAY in africa, are starting in australia-all since thousands of blacks have immigrated.


Do YOU see a pattern here? :-\

Of coarse I see it, Dutch.

It's pure logic.

Put jungle animals in your home and what do you get?.........

A ZOO,.........THAT'S WHAT.
Title: Re: Racism against blacks ?
Post by: Boeregeneraal on August 21, 2007, 04:01:39 AM
2 old women brutally bashed in their beds at night--happens EVERY day in South Africa-it's a typical characteristic of blacks

And what does the media say "dark colored male" - we all know what that is!  :-\
Title: Re: Racism against blacks ?
Post by: newman on August 21, 2007, 04:05:35 AM
2 old women brutally bashed in their beds at night--happens EVERY day in South Africa-it's a typical characteristic of blacks

And what does the media say "dark colored male" - we all know what that is!  :-\

Yes......

Here it's always 'dark complexion' or 'persons of middle eastern appearence'. (and they're not talking about Jews, either!)
Title: Re: Racism against blacks ?
Post by: Boeregeneraal on August 21, 2007, 04:08:04 AM
2 old women brutally bashed in their beds at night--happens EVERY day in South Africa-it's a typical characteristic of blacks

And what does the media say "dark colored male" - we all know what that is!  :-\

Yes......

Here it's always 'dark complexion' or 'persons of middle eastern appearence'. (and they're not talking about Jews, either!)

Yes, and it's not an aboriginal-because if it was an aboriginal it would be "aborigianal male"
Title: Re: Racism against blacks ?
Post by: newman on August 21, 2007, 04:30:42 AM
take it from someone that comes from Africa, and has seen the REAL africa-MOST blacks (about +95%) are evil. And if anyone disagrees with me, go live in africa!

As for blacks being inferior, if you don't agree with that-you've been sleeping!

Tell me what the black man has invented? Has the black man himself, crossed any ocean? No!

The damn list goes on.

So, if anyone thinks that not all (less than 95%) of blacks are bad news, I have one thing to say-live in Africa for 3 months-and we will talk again! In fact, you will dislike blacks more than any Afrikaaner/Boer does!

All I know is I am a Negro that doesnt fit in that category. I despise black culture. It is evil. But Africa and America are two different worlds.

You definitely DON'T fit that desciption, Cosmo. It's not JUST your Jewish soul, either.

I suspect it's because your good father made a decision to ditch the bad parts of that culture and pass something better on to you.

Look at Allen Keys or Crazy Joe Clark, they did it.
Title: Re: Racism against blacks ?
Post by: HiWarp on August 21, 2007, 08:15:36 AM
You have a beautiful, secure home that contains everything you could ever want or need to lead a happy life. 

Outside of your home are a large number of wild animals that prey on the weak and have no concept of right or wrong but only of survival of the fittest.

You, as head of the household, make a decision that you will open your doors and let the wild animals in.  You proceed to convince your family to accept your decision.  They do.

Once the animals are inside, they begin tearing apart your house and defecating all over the place.

You remain convinced that allowing them to stay in your house is a good idea and you convince your family.  They agree.

One of the wild animals severely injures your daughter.

You capture the wild animal and cage him up in a room in your house.  You leave the remaining wild animals free to roam in your house.

Another wild animal kills your son.

You capture the wild animal and cage him up in a room in your house.  You leave the remaining wild animals free to roam in your house.

Explain to me again, who has the inferior culture and is making the bad decisions?
Title: Re: Racism against blacks ?
Post by: cjd on August 21, 2007, 09:06:16 AM
You have a beautiful, secure home that contains everything you could ever want or need to lead a happy life. 

Outside of your home are a large number of wild animals that prey on the weak and have no concept of right or wrong but only of survival of the fittest.

You, as head of the household, make a decision that you will open your doors and let the wild animals in.  You proceed to convince your family to accept your decision.  They do.

Once the animals are inside, they begin tearing apart your house and defecating all over the place.

You remain convinced that allowing them to stay in your house is a good idea and you convince your family.  They agree.

One of the wild animals severely injures your daughter.

You capture the wild animal and cage him up in a room in your house.  You leave the remaining wild animals free to roam in your house.

Another wild animal kills your son.

You capture the wild animal and cage him up in a room in your house.  You leave the remaining wild animals free to roam in your house.

Explain to me again, who has the inferior culture and is making the bad decisions?

You make a very good point with this!!  Does this picture seem familiar to anyone else other than me?
Title: Re: Racism against blacks ?
Post by: Boeregeneraal on August 21, 2007, 09:36:12 AM
Very familiar here
Title: Re: Racism against blacks ?
Post by: cjd on August 21, 2007, 10:01:27 AM
Very familiar here
What white folks had to and still have to endure in S.A is what I fear is creeping in here in the U.S. I only hope white folks here open their eyes before its to late.
Title: Re: Racism against blacks ?
Post by: newman on August 21, 2007, 11:33:46 AM
You have a beautiful, secure home that contains everything you could ever want or need to lead a happy life. 

Outside of your home are a large number of wild animals that prey on the weak and have no concept of right or wrong but only of survival of the fittest.

You, as head of the household, make a decision that you will open your doors and let the wild animals in.  You proceed to convince your family to accept your decision.  They do.

Once the animals are inside, they begin tearing apart your house and defecating all over the place.

You remain convinced that allowing them to stay in your house is a good idea and you convince your family.  They agree.

One of the wild animals severely injures your daughter.

You capture the wild animal and cage him up in a room in your house.  You leave the remaining wild animals free to roam in your house.

Another wild animal kills your son.

You capture the wild animal and cage him up in a room in your house.  You leave the remaining wild animals free to roam in your house.

Explain to me again, who has the inferior culture and is making the bad decisions?

You make a very good point with this!!  Does this picture seem familiar to anyone else other than me?

Excellent analogy. We're collectively crazy to allow this.
Title: Re: Racism against blacks ?
Post by: Kananga on August 21, 2007, 01:23:35 PM
That's a terrible analogy.  Wild animals?  What difference does race make to your daughter if your daughter is still being hurt?  As if the evil white person is any more an "animal" than the evil non-white.

Dexter, you are a very wise and intelligent young man.  Don't let them fool you.
Title: Re: Racism against blacks ?
Post by: German Christ on August 21, 2007, 01:39:14 PM
JTF - Racist movment against blacks ?
How can you actually proove that JTF isn't racist for blacks, saying that black culture is inferior to the "white" culture is a bit racist thing to say .
Also saying that USA should ofter the blacks ticket to Africa is a bit racist thing to say, because you can also saying that all the european should be back to Europe, Asians to Asia etc' .

What do you think ?

Well I don't agree that JTF is completly free of racism. I saw a video on youtube where this JTF guy made fun of some black celebrities in the USA. You can't say now there wouldn't be some racism.

But I think this is no problem, because in many things you are right. Europe isn't an immigration continent, I don't like to see lot's of black people on the street. On top of that I do not believe that the poverty of Africa is the fault of western countries, it's just the fault of the african population, because even the arabs made more out of their inhospitable continent.

But it's a part of my ideology that in America, the land of the free and of course a land based on immigration, the black have a right to live now. And if you look at Condoleeza Rize you can not say that Blacks are naturally stupid. I'd just say the possibility that one of black race is very intelligent is lower than the possibility to be it of a white or asian man.
Title: Re: Racism against blacks ?
Post by: HiWarp on August 21, 2007, 01:51:28 PM
Quote from: Kananga link=topic=7976.msg72399#msg72399 date=
That's a terrible analogy.  Wild animals?  What difference does race make is hurting your daughter if your daughter is still being hurt?  As if the evil white person is any more an "animal" than the evil non-white.

Dexter, you are a very wise and intelligent young man.  Don't let them fool you.
What I was referring to was the inability/unwillingness of certain leaders and their constituents to recognize and stop their self destructive behavior.  If it will make you feel better, you can substitute "white tigers" for "wild animals". ::)
Title: Re: Racism against blacks ?
Post by: cjd on August 21, 2007, 01:54:04 PM
Quote from: Kananga link=topic=7976.msg72399#msg72399 date=
That's a terrible analogy.  Wild animals?  What difference does race make is hurting your daughter if your daughter is still being hurt?  As if the evil white person is any more an "animal" than the evil non-white.

Dexter, you are a very wise and intelligent young man.  Don't let them fool you.
What I was referring to was the inability/unwillingness of certain leaders and their constituents to recognize and stop their self destructive behavior.  If it will make you feel better, you can substitute "white tigers" for "wild animals".

Why substitute anything it was an excellent analogy stick with it.
Title: Re: Racism against blacks ?
Post by: newman on August 21, 2007, 01:57:20 PM
Quote from: Kananga link=topic=7976.msg72399#msg72399 date=
That's a terrible analogy.  Wild animals?  What difference does race make is hurting your daughter if your daughter is still being hurt?  As if the evil white person is any more an "animal" than the evil non-white.

Dexter, you are a very wise and intelligent young man.  Don't let them fool you.
What I was referring to was the inability/unwillingness of certain leaders and their constituents to recognize and stop their self destructive behavior.  If it will make you feel better, you can substitute "white tigers" for "wild animals".

Why substitute anything it was an excellent analogy stick with it.

True. I'm sorry if the analogy makes some uncomfortable, but when was the last time someone got mugged by a gang of Jews or Anglo-saxons?
Title: Re: Racism against blacks ?
Post by: HiWarp on August 21, 2007, 01:58:06 PM
Quote from: cjd link=topic=7976.msg72420#msg72420 date=
Quote from: HiWarp link=topic=7976.msg72418#msg72418 date=
Quote from: Kananga link=topic=7976.msg72399#msg72399 date=
That's a terrible analogy.  Wild animals?  What difference does race make is hurting your daughter if your daughter is still being hurt?  As if the evil white person is any more an "animal" than the evil non-white.

Dexter, you are a very wise and intelligent young man.  Don't let them fool you.
What I was referring to was the inability/unwillingness of certain leaders and their constituents to recognize and stop their self destructive behavior.  If it will make you feel better, you can substitute "white tigers" for "wild animals".

Why substitute anything it was an excellent analogy stick with it.
Thanks.  I do stick with it.  I had to re-edit to add the smiley.
Title: Re: Racism against blacks ?
Post by: cjd on August 21, 2007, 02:01:32 PM
Quote from: Kananga link=topic=7976.msg72399#msg72399 date=
That's a terrible analogy.  Wild animals?  What difference does race make is hurting your daughter if your daughter is still being hurt?  As if the evil white person is any more an "animal" than the evil non-white.

Dexter, you are a very wise and intelligent young man.  Don't let them fool you.
What I was referring to was the inability/unwillingness of certain leaders and their constituents to recognize and stop their self destructive behavior.  If it will make you feel better, you can substitute "white tigers" for "wild animals".

Why substitute anything it was an excellent analogy stick with it.

True. I'm sorry if the analogy makes some uncomfortable, but when was the last time someone got mugged by a gang of Jews or Anglo-saxons?
That was exactly the trap the post talked about. Everyone see's  the evil but are are to PC to call it what it is!!
Title: Re: Racism against blacks ?
Post by: Mstislav on August 21, 2007, 03:28:45 PM
Newman, I think you would know what i am talking about.

It's once again interesting to note, that in the last few months, crime in australia has skyrocketed.

NOw, lets look at whats been happening in the last few months:
Black "refugees" as well as those with VISA's, have flooded the australian continent.

---

Now the sort of crimes and vicous assaults, that i saw EVERYDAY in africa, are starting in australia-all since thousands of blacks have immigrated.


Do YOU see a pattern here? :-\

First the muslims, now the non muslim blacks?
Title: Re: Racism against blacks ?
Post by: Shlomo on August 21, 2007, 06:05:15 PM

 IQ does not equal good or evil.

I agree Jeff, but i think you misunderstand.

Im refering to IQ, that blacks are not the smartest bunch.

I have to agree with you. They are more emotional.
Title: Re: Racism against blacks ?
Post by: newman on August 21, 2007, 06:07:16 PM

 IQ does not equal good or evil.

I agree Jeff, but i think you misunderstand.

Im refering to IQ, that blacks are not the smartest bunch.

I have to agree with you. They are more emotional.

They are also less able or willing to control violent outbusts or sexual urges, too.
Title: Re: Racism against blacks ?
Post by: Daniel on August 21, 2007, 08:06:18 PM
I agree with this point. To assert that most blacks have an evil culture, while it may not constitute racism per se, it still adds up to ethnocentrism which is just as much of a prejudice than racism. I think Chaim uses a lot of false logic to come to the conclusions that he creates. He says that 95% of blacks voted for Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson. Therefore, 95% of blacks must be racist against whites. There are a few things wrong with this type of reasoning and logic. First of all, even if it is true that 95% of blacks voted for these creatures, that's only accounting for those "who voted." You can't extrapolate that sample to apply it to the rest of the black population. That's like saying, most crimes are committed by blacks. Therefore, most blacks commit crimes. EHHHH! Wrong! Most crimes are committed by a microcosm of blacks that are recidivists. The same concept exists with Catholic priests molesting children. That doesn't mean most Catholic priests do this. It's only a tiny portion that repeats these crimes again and again and creates a very large number of molestations and victims. Also, a large portion of those blacks who voted for Sharpton and Jackson may not have been motivated by antisemitism. They may have voted for them because they didn't feel that the other candidates represented them and identified with them enough.
Title: Re: Racism against blacks ?
Post by: Boeregeneraal on August 21, 2007, 10:38:35 PM
That's a terrible analogy.  Wild animals?  What difference does race make to your daughter if your daughter is still being hurt?  As if the evil white person is any more an "animal" than the evil non-white.

Dexter, you are a very wise and intelligent young man.  Don't let them fool you.

m,mmmm....sounds like the typical answer i could expect from you.

You have a black man pointing (looks like a gun to me) at someone,  ::)
Title: Re: Racism against blacks ?
Post by: newman on August 21, 2007, 10:41:51 PM
That's a terrible analogy.  Wild animals?  What difference does race make to your daughter if your daughter is still being hurt?  As if the evil white person is any more an "animal" than the evil non-white.

Dexter, you are a very wise and intelligent young man.  Don't let them fool you.

m,mmmm....sounds like the typical answer i could expect from you.

You have a black man pointing (looks like a gun to me) at someone,  ::)

He should look at the crime statistics and do a per capita calculation.
Title: Re: Racism against blacks ?
Post by: Boeregeneraal on August 21, 2007, 11:02:19 PM
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Title: Re: Racism against blacks ?
Post by: Boeregeneraal on August 21, 2007, 11:02:48 PM
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Title: Re: Racism against blacks ?
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http://africancrisis.co.za/Article.php?ID=3453&
Title: Re: Racism against blacks ?
Post by: Daniel on August 21, 2007, 11:17:01 PM

 IQ does not equal good or evil.

I agree Jeff, but i think you misunderstand.

Im refering to IQ, that blacks are not the smartest bunch.

I have to agree with you. They are more emotional.

They are also less able or willing to control violent outbusts or sexual urges, too.

It sounds like both of you are falling into the "They" trap. Whenever you use the word "they" to use a broad paint brush on an entire group of people, that is racist.
Title: Re: Racism against blacks ?
Post by: newman on August 21, 2007, 11:21:10 PM

 IQ does not equal good or evil.

I agree Jeff, but i think you misunderstand.

Im refering to IQ, that blacks are not the smartest bunch.

I have to agree with you. They are more emotional.

They are also less able or willing to control violent outbusts or sexual urges, too.

It sounds like both of you are falling into the "They" trap. Whenever you use the word "they" to use a broad paint brush on an entire group of people, that is racist.

No it is not.

Whenever a description applies to more than 50% it is quite legitimate to generalise.
Title: Re: Racism against blacks ?
Post by: judeanoncapta on August 21, 2007, 11:25:10 PM

 IQ does not equal good or evil.

I agree Jeff, but i think you misunderstand.

Im refering to IQ, that blacks are not the smartest bunch.

I have to agree with you. They are more emotional.

They are also less able or willing to control violent outbusts or sexual urges, too.

It sounds like both of you are falling into the "They" trap. Whenever you use the word "they" to use a broad paint brush on an entire group of people, that is racist.

Whatever.

I couldn't care less about being called a racist.
I'm the only person at my job who even speaks to the blacks in the warehouse and treats them like human beings.

I don't beleive they are equal to any race on earth, but I treat them nicely.

All the PC dolts who would never say that blacks are inferior would never even speak to these blacks.
Title: Re: Racism against blacks ?
Post by: jdl4ever on August 21, 2007, 11:29:51 PM
On Sunday I went to the mall with my father and there was a giant open fountain in the lobby with several large 10 lb fish swimming in it.  Me and my father petted the fish in the tank as they were swimming by and they didn't mind.  Then a black man tried to pet a fish, and it swam away so fast like it was scared to death.  He hee heee true story. 
Title: Re: Racism against blacks ?
Post by: raiseyourfist on August 21, 2007, 11:46:45 PM
What do you call 50 black folk jumping off a skyscraper...

Night time

Title: Re: Racism against blacks ?
Post by: Erica on August 23, 2007, 12:57:38 PM
take it from someone that comes from Africa, and has seen the REAL africa-MOST blacks (about +95%) are evil. And if anyone disagrees with me, go live in africa!

As for blacks being inferior, if you don't agree with that-you've been sleeping!

Tell me what the black man has invented? Has the black man himself, crossed any ocean? No!

The damn list goes on.

So, if anyone thinks that not all (less than 95%) of blacks are bad news, I have one thing to say-live in Africa for 3 months-and we will talk again! In fact, you will dislike blacks more than any Afrikaaner/Boer does!
Blacks aren't inferior, the time has past for colonialistic way of veiw .
Besides, how can you say 95% of the blacks are evil ? how can you say that, do you know each black in person that you can say that ?
I know you are from south africa, so let's make a deal, every white will back to Europe, all blacks back to Africa .
That's fair .
欧爱德
Of course blacks aren't inferior.

Its just like Chaim said on this weeks Ask JTF, "just look at the advanced civilization in the jungles of Kenya."
Some people are more advanced than the others, that's make you better of tham and making tham genetic inferior or with inferior culture ? that's racism .

And why voting for Al Sharpton makes you evil ?
I agree with you Dexter.

When Al ran for office years ago, I was too young to vote and I even had an opinion of him then. I told my mom that if I were able to vote in the election he was running in, I wouldn't because it seems as though he cared more about his hair than the American People altogether. lol Now as a 33.5 year old black woman, I can say that I definately wouldn't vote for him. He flip-flops too much and he dosen't defend others who have experienced as much injustice as black people. Dispite what he does for the black community, he's not worth the time to vote for him. That dosen't mean that I think that those who voted for Sharpton were evil, maybe they were uninformed and 'needed a leader' but not evil.
Title: Re: Racism against blacks ?
Post by: Kananga on August 23, 2007, 02:35:21 PM
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m,mmmm....sounds like the typical answer i could expect from you.

You have a black man pointing (looks like a gun to me) at someone

For every Jew a .22
Title: Re: Racism against blacks ?
Post by: cjd on August 23, 2007, 02:43:14 PM
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m,mmmm....sounds like the typical answer i could expect from you.

You have a black man pointing (looks like a gun to me) at someone

For every Jew a .22
They need a 22 with all the gun toting blacks around
On Sunday I went to the mall with my father and there was a giant open fountain in the lobby with several large 10 lb fish swimming in it.  Me and my father petted the fish in the tank as they were swimming by and they didn't mind.  Then a black man tried to pet a fish, and it swam away so fast like it was scared to death.  He hee heee true story. 
See Kananga even the fish know what they are dealing with ;D
Title: Re: Racism against blacks ?
Post by: newman on August 23, 2007, 03:46:08 PM
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m,mmmm....sounds like the typical answer i could expect from you.

You have a black man pointing (looks like a gun to me) at someone

For every Jew a .22
They need a 22 with all the gun toting blacks around
On Sunday I went to the mall with my father and there was a giant open fountain in the lobby with several large 10 lb fish swimming in it.  Me and my father petted the fish in the tank as they were swimming by and they didn't mind.  Then a black man tried to pet a fish, and it swam away so fast like it was scared to death.  He hee heee true story. 
See Kananga even the fish know what they are dealing with ;D

Da fish dun heard 'bout da fish fry dey be havin' for da rent raisin'. mmmm hmmm.
Title: Re: Racism against blacks ?
Post by: Daniel on August 23, 2007, 06:26:19 PM
Quote
m,mmmm....sounds like the typical answer i could expect from you.

You have a black man pointing (looks like a gun to me) at someone

For every Jew a .22
They need a 22 with all the gun toting blacks around
On Sunday I went to the mall with my father and there was a giant open fountain in the lobby with several large 10 lb fish swimming in it.  Me and my father petted the fish in the tank as they were swimming by and they didn't mind.  Then a black man tried to pet a fish, and it swam away so fast like it was scared to death.  He hee heee true story. 
See Kananga even the fish know what they are dealing with ;D

Da fish dun heard 'bout da fish fry dey be havin' for da rent raisin'. mmmm hmmm.

Reminds me of the Honeymooners joke where Norton makes a sentence with the words, defeat, detail, and defense by saying, "The dog jumped over defense and defeat went over before detail." :)
Title: Re: Racism against blacks ?
Post by: newman on August 23, 2007, 06:29:22 PM
Quote
m,mmmm....sounds like the typical answer i could expect from you.

You have a black man pointing (looks like a gun to me) at someone

For every Jew a .22
They need a 22 with all the gun toting blacks around
On Sunday I went to the mall with my father and there was a giant open fountain in the lobby with several large 10 lb fish swimming in it.  Me and my father petted the fish in the tank as they were swimming by and they didn't mind.  Then a black man tried to pet a fish, and it swam away so fast like it was scared to death.  He hee heee true story. 
See Kananga even the fish know what they are dealing with ;D

Da fish dun heard 'bout da fish fry dey be havin' for da rent raisin'. mmmm hmmm.

Reminds me of the Honeymooners joke where Norton makes a sentence with the words, defeat, detail, and defense by saying, "The dog jumped over defense and defeat went over before detail." :)

That's like DeKlerk in South Africa.

De Klerk is de fellow who take de messages for de noo boss.
Title: Re: Racism against blacks ?
Post by: raiseyourfist on August 23, 2007, 09:53:25 PM
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m,mmmm....sounds like the typical answer i could expect from you.

You have a black man pointing (looks like a gun to me) at someone

For every Jew a .22

You got some balls kid ill give u that much....

This is the wrong hood for u ditsoon "burnt" (in italian)... your ideals fit this description as well

Literally the wrong hood for you to come out guns ablazing...

PUT THE n**ger BEHIND THE TRIGGER ... to quote full metal jacket
Title: Re: Racism against blacks ?
Post by: Boeregeneraal on August 23, 2007, 10:23:42 PM
Quote
m,mmmm....sounds like the typical answer i could expect from you.

You have a black man pointing (looks like a gun to me) at someone

For every Jew a .22
They need a 22 with all the gun toting blacks around
On Sunday I went to the mall with my father and there was a giant open fountain in the lobby with several large 10 lb fish swimming in it.  Me and my father petted the fish in the tank as they were swimming by and they didn't mind.  Then a black man tried to pet a fish, and it swam away so fast like it was scared to death.  He hee heee true story. 
See Kananga even the fish know what they are dealing with ;D

hahahahaha goood one  ;D ;D ;D

Animals have a VERY sensitive feeling, and as you've all seen...even fish...
Title: Re: Racism against blacks ?
Post by: Boeregeneraal on August 23, 2007, 10:24:50 PM
what the hell?, why only give Jews .22??!!!!!!!!!!!

It's like giving Jews a peashooter!!!!!!!!!!!!

 :-\ :-\ :-\
Title: Re: Racism against blacks ?
Post by: Daniel on August 24, 2007, 12:13:49 AM
On Sunday I went to the mall with my father and there was a giant open fountain in the lobby with several large 10 lb fish swimming in it.  Me and my father petted the fish in the tank as they were swimming by and they didn't mind.  Then a black man tried to pet a fish, and it swam away so fast like it was scared to death.  He hee heee true story. 

Those damned racist bigoted fish!
Title: Re: Racism against blacks ?
Post by: Daniel on August 24, 2007, 12:18:24 AM

 IQ does not equal good or evil.

I agree Jeff, but i think you misunderstand.

Im refering to IQ, that blacks are not the smartest bunch.

I have to agree with you. They are more emotional.

They are also less able or willing to control violent outbusts or sexual urges, too.

It sounds like both of you are falling into the "They" trap. Whenever you use the word "they" to use a broad paint brush on an entire group of people, that is racist.

Whatever.

I couldn't care less about being called a racist.
I'm the only person at my job who even speaks to the blacks in the warehouse and treats them like human beings.

I don't beleive they are equal to any race on earth, but I treat them nicely.

All the PC dolts who would never say that blacks are inferior would never even speak to these blacks.

I'm not sure exactly what you mean by you don't believe they are equal to any race on earth. Are you saying that they are unequal to any other race on earth? I don't say that blacks are inferior and I do speak to them, work with them, teach them, learn from them, befriend them, and then some. And I couldn't care less about being called a shvartze-lover.
Title: Re: Racism against blacks ?
Post by: DownwithIslam on August 24, 2007, 12:22:23 AM
take it from someone that comes from Africa, and has seen the REAL africa-MOST blacks (about +95%) are evil. And if anyone disagrees with me, go live in africa!

As for blacks being inferior, if you don't agree with that-you've been sleeping!

Tell me what the black man has invented? Has the black man himself, crossed any ocean? No!

The damn list goes on.

So, if anyone thinks that not all (less than 95%) of blacks are bad news, I have one thing to say-live in Africa for 3 months-and we will talk again! In fact, you will dislike blacks more than any Afrikaaner/Boer does!
Blacks aren't inferior, the time has past for colonialistic way of veiw .
Besides, how can you say 95% of the blacks are evil ? how can you say that, do you know each black in person that you can say that ?
I know you are from south africa, so let's make a deal, every white will back to Europe, all blacks back to Africa .
That's fair .
欧爱德
Of course blacks aren't inferior.

Its just like Chaim said on this weeks Ask JTF, "just look at the advanced civilization in the jungles of Kenya."
Some people are more advanced than the others, that's make you better of tham and making tham genetic inferior or with inferior culture ? that's racism .

And why voting for Al Sharpton makes you evil ?
I agree with you Dexter.

When Al ran for office years ago, I was too young to vote and I even had an opinion of him then. I told my mom that if I were able to vote in the election he was running in, I wouldn't because it seems as though he cared more about his hair than the American People altogether. lol Now as a 33.5 year old black woman, I can say that I definately wouldn't vote for him. He flip-flops too much and he dosen't defend others who have experienced as much injustice as black people. Dispite what he does for the black community, he's not worth the time to vote for him. That dosen't mean that I think that those who voted for Sharpton were evil, maybe they were uninformed and 'needed a leader' but not evil.


Erica this might be your most accurate post yet. You are certainly incorrect in stating that al sharpton has done good for blacks. If he wanted to help blacks, he should tell them to learn from the jews about how to have work ethic, how to stop impregnating every women they come across, how not to rape, how not to commit most crime in america, how to respect education and intelligence instead of roaming the "hood" with those stupid looking bandanas or whatever they are on their heads. He should be telling blacks to get a job and stop destroying this country.
Title: Re: Racism against blacks ?
Post by: newman on August 24, 2007, 12:28:12 AM

I'm not sure exactly what you mean by you don't believe they are equal to any race on earth. Are you saying that they are unequal to any other race on earth? I don't say that blacks are inferior and I do speak to them, work with them, teach them, learn from them, befriend them, and then some. And I couldn't care less about being called a shvartze-lover.

What do you possibly learn from THEM?

How to hold up a liquor store??
Title: Re: Racism against blacks ?
Post by: Hail Columbia on August 24, 2007, 01:34:25 AM
what the hell?, why only give Jews .22??!!!!!!!!!!!

It's like giving Jews a peashooter!!!!!!!!!!!!

 :-\ :-\ :-\

That's only because Jew rhymes with .22.
Title: Re: Racism against blacks ?
Post by: Mishmaat on August 24, 2007, 02:26:59 AM
I have yet to see brother fjack add his input into this great thread.
Title: Re: Racism against blacks ?
Post by: newman on August 24, 2007, 02:30:51 AM
I have yet to see brother fjack add his input into this great thread.

I was hoping our resident negrologist would add his expertise to the Yasmine attack thread, too.
Title: Re: Racism against blacks ?
Post by: Kananga on August 24, 2007, 09:43:20 AM
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m,mmmm....sounds like the typical answer i could expect from you.

You have a black man pointing (looks like a gun to me) at someone

For every Jew a .22

You got some balls kid ill give u that much....

This is the wrong hood for u ditsoon "burnt" (in italian)... your ideals fit this description as well

Literally the wrong hood for you to come out guns ablazing...

PUT THE n**ger BEHIND THE TRIGGER ... to quote full metal jacket

Should I be afraid?
Title: Re: Racism against blacks ?
Post by: raiseyourfist on August 24, 2007, 09:47:31 AM
If you say all jews should be shot which i assumed you said then yes you should be afraid....

Not of me though because im leaving so i apologize if you didn't mean this

If you did mean that all jews should be killed then i stand by what i just said
Title: Re: Racism against blacks ?
Post by: Kananga on August 24, 2007, 09:56:22 AM
I'm not scared of Jews, Nazis, or anything in between.  Why do so many of you make so many assumptions about us?
Title: Re: Racism against blacks ?
Post by: raiseyourfist on August 24, 2007, 10:06:31 AM
Ask Chaim on JTF...

He will give you an honest answer
Title: Re: Racism against blacks ?
Post by: Kananga on August 24, 2007, 10:14:53 AM
Sterotyping is very convienient tool.   It doesn't take much though or effort to do it, and it provides the person a safe space to deal with people who are different.  :laugh:
Title: Re: Racism against blacks ?
Post by: Daniel on August 24, 2007, 11:09:28 AM
I'm not scared of Jews, Nazis, or anything in between.  Why do so many of you make so many assumptions about us?

I don't.
Title: Re: Racism against blacks ?
Post by: Daniel on August 24, 2007, 11:10:06 AM
Sterotyping is very convienient tool.   It doesn't take much though or effort to do it, and it provides the person a safe space to deal with people who are different.  :laugh:

Exactamente!
Title: Re: Racism against blacks ?
Post by: Daniel on August 24, 2007, 11:11:40 AM
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m,mmmm....sounds like the typical answer i could expect from you.

You have a black man pointing (looks like a gun to me) at someone

For every Jew a .22

C'mon Kananga, do you really believe this?
Title: Re: Racism against blacks ?
Post by: newman on August 24, 2007, 11:14:01 AM
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m,mmmm....sounds like the typical answer i could expect from you.

You have a black man pointing (looks like a gun to me) at someone

For every Jew a .22

C'mon Kananga, do you really believe this?

The reason every Jew needed his/her .22 was....(drum roll).... BLACKS.
Title: Re: Racism against blacks ?
Post by: Kananga on August 24, 2007, 11:19:39 AM
I like the way it sounds.  Another sterotype about Blacks and Jews is that both groups have good rhythm.
Title: Re: Racism against blacks ?
Post by: Daniel on August 24, 2007, 11:21:08 AM
I like the way it sounds.  Another sterotype about Blacks and Jews is that both groups have good rhythm.

Oh now that's completely not true! Jews have absolutely no rhythm!  :laugh:

White men can't dance  ;D
Title: Re: Racism against blacks ?
Post by: Daniel on August 24, 2007, 11:23:23 AM
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m,mmmm....sounds like the typical answer i could expect from you.

You have a black man pointing (looks like a gun to me) at someone

For every Jew a .22

C'mon Kananga, do you really believe this?

The reason every Jew needed his/her .22 was....(drum roll).... BLACKS.

The way I read this is that every Jew needs to be shot with a .22. A little ambiguity here  :-\
Title: Re: Racism against blacks ?
Post by: Kananga on August 24, 2007, 11:27:24 AM
Not in my shul.  Our Baal Tefilah has a lot of rhythm in his cadence.  You can feel it such that you find yourself and everyone else sorta swaying and moving in sync.
Title: Re: Racism against blacks ?
Post by: newman on August 24, 2007, 11:28:53 AM
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m,mmmm....sounds like the typical answer i could expect from you.

You have a black man pointing (looks like a gun to me) at someone

For every Jew a .22

C'mon Kananga, do you really believe this?

The reason every Jew needed his/her .22 was....(drum roll).... BLACKS.

The way I read this is that every Jew needs to be shot with a .22. A little ambiguity here  :-\

"For every Jew a .22" was a famous slogan of the JDL under Meir Kahane!

Where have you been?? ???
Title: Re: Racism against blacks ?
Post by: Kananga on August 24, 2007, 11:30:44 AM
Now I know I'm going to get an argument here, but I'm guessing that may be the reason why there are a lot of jewish guys who can rap.  Perhaps these guys picked it up in shul.
Title: Re: Racism against blacks ?
Post by: Daniel on August 24, 2007, 11:32:51 AM
Not in my shul.  Our Baal Tefilah has a lot of rhythm in his cadence.  You can feel it such that you find yourself and everyone else sorta swaying and moving in sync.

Kananga, are you Jewish?
Title: Re: Racism against blacks ?
Post by: Daniel on August 24, 2007, 11:34:06 AM
Quote
m,mmmm....sounds like the typical answer i could expect from you.

You have a black man pointing (looks like a gun to me) at someone

For every Jew a .22

C'mon Kananga, do you really believe this?

The reason every Jew needed his/her .22 was....(drum roll).... BLACKS.

The way I read this is that every Jew needs to be shot with a .22. A little ambiguity here  :-\

"For every Jew a .22" was a famous slogan of the JDL under Meir Kahane!

Where have you been?? ???

Oh! Oh well. I guess I've been missing. I'm here now. In that case, it's clear what this means then.
Title: Re: Racism against blacks ?
Post by: newman on August 24, 2007, 11:35:19 AM
Quote
m,mmmm....sounds like the typical answer i could expect from you.

You have a black man pointing (looks like a gun to me) at someone

For every Jew a .22

C'mon Kananga, do you really believe this?

The reason every Jew needed his/her .22 was....(drum roll).... BLACKS.

The way I read this is that every Jew needs to be shot with a .22. A little ambiguity here  :-\

"For every Jew a .22" was a famous slogan of the JDL under Meir Kahane!

Where have you been?? ???

Oh! Oh well. I guess I've been missing. I'm here now. In that case, it's clear what this means then.

You're a school teacher, aren't you?
Title: Re: Racism against blacks ?
Post by: Daniel on August 24, 2007, 11:44:11 AM
Quote
m,mmmm....sounds like the typical answer i could expect from you.

You have a black man pointing (looks like a gun to me) at someone

For every Jew a .22

C'mon Kananga, do you really believe this?

The reason every Jew needed his/her .22 was....(drum roll).... BLACKS.

The way I read this is that every Jew needs to be shot with a .22. A little ambiguity here  :-\

"For every Jew a .22" was a famous slogan of the JDL under Meir Kahane!

Where have you been?? ???

Oh! Oh well. I guess I've been missing. I'm here now. In that case, it's clear what this means then.

You're a school teacher, aren't you?

Yes, and I've never learned about Kahane and the JDL in any of education I received, including the Jewish education, and I certainly don't teach anything about Kahane to my students. I found out about Kahane through a friend of mine, the JTF shows, and the internet.
Title: Re: Racism against blacks ?
Post by: Kananga on August 24, 2007, 11:45:19 AM
I'm a convert.  Sometimes I feel jewish and sometimes I don't.

I had the wacky idea that my participation on this forum would help me feel more Jewish by allowing me to confront some of my insecurities about joining the jewish people, and gain a greater appreciation for Israel.  I saw how racist many people are here I figured if I hung aroung it would help me "toughen up" so I can practice Judaism without being intimidated by the Jews in my community who won't accept me.
Title: Re: Racism against blacks ?
Post by: newman on August 24, 2007, 11:47:34 AM
Quote
m,mmmm....sounds like the typical answer i could expect from you.

You have a black man pointing (looks like a gun to me) at someone

For every Jew a .22

C'mon Kananga, do you really believe this?

The reason every Jew needed his/her .22 was....(drum roll).... BLACKS.

The way I read this is that every Jew needs to be shot with a .22. A little ambiguity here  :-\

"For every Jew a .22" was a famous slogan of the JDL under Meir Kahane!

Where have you been?? ???

Oh! Oh well. I guess I've been missing. I'm here now. In that case, it's clear what this means then.

You're a school teacher, aren't you?

Yes,

That figures. ::)
Title: Re: Racism against blacks ?
Post by: Erica on August 24, 2007, 12:00:50 PM
take it from someone that comes from Africa, and has seen the REAL africa-MOST blacks (about +95%) are evil. And if anyone disagrees with me, go live in africa!

As for blacks being inferior, if you don't agree with that-you've been sleeping!

Tell me what the black man has invented? Has the black man himself, crossed any ocean? No!

The damn list goes on.

So, if anyone thinks that not all (less than 95%) of blacks are bad news, I have one thing to say-live in Africa for 3 months-and we will talk again! In fact, you will dislike blacks more than any Afrikaaner/Boer does!
Blacks aren't inferior, the time has past for colonialistic way of veiw .
Besides, how can you say 95% of the blacks are evil ? how can you say that, do you know each black in person that you can say that ?
I know you are from south africa, so let's make a deal, every white will back to Europe, all blacks back to Africa .
That's fair .
欧爱德
Of course blacks aren't inferior.

Its just like Chaim said on this weeks Ask JTF, "just look at the advanced civilization in the jungles of Kenya."
Some people are more advanced than the others, that's make you better of tham and making tham genetic inferior or with inferior culture ? that's racism .

And why voting for Al Sharpton makes you evil ?
I agree with you Dexter.

When Al ran for office years ago, I was too young to vote and I even had an opinion of him then. I told my mom that if I were able to vote in the election he was running in, I wouldn't because it seems as though he cared more about his hair than the American People altogether. lol Now as a 33.5 year old black woman, I can say that I definately wouldn't vote for him. He flip-flops too much and he dosen't defend others who have experienced as much injustice as black people. Dispite what he does for the black community, he's not worth the time to vote for him. That dosen't mean that I think that those who voted for Sharpton were evil, maybe they were uninformed and 'needed a leader' but not evil.


Erica this might be your most accurate post yet. You are certainly incorrect in stating that al sharpton has done good for blacks. If he wanted to help blacks, he should tell them to learn from the jews about how to have work ethic, how to stop impregnating every women they come across, how not to rape, how not to commit most crime in america, how to respect education and intelligence instead of roaming the "hood" with those stupid looking bandanas or whatever they are on their heads. He should be telling blacks to get a job and stop destroying this country.
I've been saying things like this since my first appearance here but you didn't read it. And what makes you think that the Jews have it all on peace and prosperity? Jews are certainly not the only culture of people who know about kindness and how not to hurt people. What he SHOULD be teaching black youth and people is that committing crime is futile especially when the end result is death or jail. It has nothing to do with Jewish philosophy or theology, for that matter. Its about common sense. Crime in any form, committed by anyone is stupid.
Title: Re: Racism against blacks ?
Post by: Erica on August 24, 2007, 12:04:05 PM

I'm not sure exactly what you mean by you don't believe they are equal to any race on earth. Are you saying that they are unequal to any other race on earth? I don't say that blacks are inferior and I do speak to them, work with them, teach them, learn from them, befriend them, and then some. And I couldn't care less about being called a shvartze-lover.

What do you possibly learn from THEM?

How to hold up a liquor store??
Newman I almost called you something. This was an ignorant response. Sorry, but it was. This is how I know that you don't practice what you preach. You often say that you take people in general at face value when you're secretly thinking crud like this "how to hold up a liquor store". You can't learn anything else from the good things in our culture? Wait, I forgot who I'm asking.
Title: Re: Racism against blacks ?
Post by: raiseyourfist on August 24, 2007, 12:05:20 PM
Now I know I'm going to get an argument here, but I'm guessing that may be the reason why there are a lot of jewish guys who can rap.  Perhaps these guys picked it up in shul.

EMINEM IS JEWISH... so your story checks out
Title: Re: Racism against blacks ?
Post by: Daniel on August 24, 2007, 12:10:31 PM
Now I know I'm going to get an argument here, but I'm guessing that may be the reason why there are a lot of jewish guys who can rap.  Perhaps these guys picked it up in shul.

EMINEM IS JEWISH... so your story checks out

Hey, Jewish brainpower at work :)

I loved Schlock Rock when I was in High School, especially the Jewish Raps that Lenny Solomon created, however nerdy and geeky we all looked while doing it.
Title: Re: Racism against blacks ?
Post by: newman on August 24, 2007, 12:11:14 PM

I'm not sure exactly what you mean by you don't believe they are equal to any race on earth. Are you saying that they are unequal to any other race on earth? I don't say that blacks are inferior and I do speak to them, work with them, teach them, learn from them, befriend them, and then some. And I couldn't care less about being called a shvartze-lover.

What do you possibly learn from THEM?

How to hold up a liquor store??
Newman I almost called you something. This was an ignorant response. Sorry, but it was. This is how I know that you don't practice what you preach. You often say that you take people in general at face value when you're secretly thinking crud like this "how to hold up a liquor store". You can't learn anything else from the good things in our culture? Wait, I forgot who I'm asking.
What good things?

Title: Re: Racism against blacks ?
Post by: Daniel on August 24, 2007, 12:15:50 PM

I'm not sure exactly what you mean by you don't believe they are equal to any race on earth. Are you saying that they are unequal to any other race on earth? I don't say that blacks are inferior and I do speak to them, work with them, teach them, learn from them, befriend them, and then some. And I couldn't care less about being called a shvartze-lover.

What do you possibly learn from THEM?

How to hold up a liquor store??
Newman I almost called you something. This was an ignorant response. Sorry, but it was. This is how I know that you don't practice what you preach. You often say that you take people in general at face value when you're secretly thinking crud like this "how to hold up a liquor store". You can't learn anything else from the good things in our culture? Wait, I forgot who I'm asking.

Erica, isn't it amazing how Newman makes these types of outrageous and ignorant remarks, yet the forum members become so pissed off at you and me when we both think and react the same way to this. It's these types of remarks that cause such a great "chumminess" between us!
Title: Re: Racism against blacks ?
Post by: newman on August 24, 2007, 12:19:59 PM


Erica, isn't it amazing how Newman makes these types of outrageous and ignorant remarks, yet the forum members become so pissed off at you and me when we both think and react the same way to this. It's these types of remarks that cause such a great "chumminess" between us!

The majority of forum members are highly discerning.
Title: Re: Racism against blacks ?
Post by: Daniel on August 24, 2007, 12:23:50 PM


Erica, isn't it amazing how Newman makes these types of outrageous and ignorant remarks, yet the forum members become so pissed off at you and me when we both think and react the same way to this. It's these types of remarks that cause such a great "chumminess" between us!

The majority of forum members are highly discerning.

The point that I'm making is that it's not like Erica and I talk on the side developing this master plan to be all chummy in order to [censored] you guys off. We just individually react the same way to ignorant and offensive remarks.
Title: Re: Racism against blacks ?
Post by: newman on August 24, 2007, 12:25:28 PM


Erica, isn't it amazing how Newman makes these types of outrageous and ignorant remarks, yet the forum members become so pissed off at you and me when we both think and react the same way to this. It's these types of remarks that cause such a great "chumminess" between us!

The majority of forum members are highly discerning.

The point that I'm making is that it's not like Erica and I talk on the side developing this master plan to be all chummy in order to [censored] you guys off. We just individually react the same way to ignorant and offensive remarks.

Or as my good buddy CJD put it, you two "Yuk it up".
Title: Re: Racism against blacks ?
Post by: Erica on August 24, 2007, 12:27:32 PM

I'm not sure exactly what you mean by you don't believe they are equal to any race on earth. Are you saying that they are unequal to any other race on earth? I don't say that blacks are inferior and I do speak to them, work with them, teach them, learn from them, befriend them, and then some. And I couldn't care less about being called a shvartze-lover.

What do you possibly learn from THEM?

How to hold up a liquor store??
Newman I almost called you something. This was an ignorant response. Sorry, but it was. This is how I know that you don't practice what you preach. You often say that you take people in general at face value when you're secretly thinking crud like this "how to hold up a liquor store". You can't learn anything else from the good things in our culture? Wait, I forgot who I'm asking.
What good things?


If I said the same thing about the Jewish culture "WHAT good things?" Would you answer me nicely or react with a statement like "LOOK AT ALL THE GOOD THINGS JEWISH PEOPLE HAVE DONE FOR YOUR TRIBE!!!!"? I've posted great things about our culture before and no one paid attention to them. From Music to food, from dances to other talents...we have lots of good in our culture. You and people LIKE you just dont' want to see it because of how 'discerning' you are. Whatever. I'd be wasting my breath and time giving  you a list of the great things I treasure in my community/ culture.
Title: Re: Racism against blacks ?
Post by: newman on August 24, 2007, 12:35:14 PM

I'm not sure exactly what you mean by you don't believe they are equal to any race on earth. Are you saying that they are unequal to any other race on earth? I don't say that blacks are inferior and I do speak to them, work with them, teach them, learn from them, befriend them, and then some. And I couldn't care less about being called a shvartze-lover.

What do you possibly learn from THEM?

How to hold up a liquor store??
Newman I almost called you something. This was an ignorant response. Sorry, but it was. This is how I know that you don't practice what you preach. You often say that you take people in general at face value when you're secretly thinking crud like this "how to hold up a liquor store". You can't learn anything else from the good things in our culture? Wait, I forgot who I'm asking.
What good things?


If I said the same thing about the Jewish culture "WHAT good things?" Would you answer me nicely or react with a statement like "LOOK AT ALL THE GOOD THINGS JEWISH PEOPLE HAVE DONE FOR YOUR TRIBE!!!!"? I've posted great things about our culture before and no one paid attention to them. From Music to food, from dances to other talents...we have lots of good in our culture. You and people LIKE you just dont' want to see it because of how 'discerning' you are. Whatever. I'd be wasting my breath and time giving  you a list of the great things I treasure in my community/ culture.

Name an area of significant black population where this great culture that we can learn from is evident.
Title: Re: Racism against blacks ?
Post by: Daniel on August 24, 2007, 12:39:58 PM

I'm not sure exactly what you mean by you don't believe they are equal to any race on earth. Are you saying that they are unequal to any other race on earth? I don't say that blacks are inferior and I do speak to them, work with them, teach them, learn from them, befriend them, and then some. And I couldn't care less about being called a shvartze-lover.

What do you possibly learn from THEM?

How to hold up a liquor store??
Newman I almost called you something. This was an ignorant response. Sorry, but it was. This is how I know that you don't practice what you preach. You often say that you take people in general at face value when you're secretly thinking crud like this "how to hold up a liquor store". You can't learn anything else from the good things in our culture? Wait, I forgot who I'm asking.
What good things?


If I said the same thing about the Jewish culture "WHAT good things?" Would you answer me nicely or react with a statement like "LOOK AT ALL THE GOOD THINGS JEWISH PEOPLE HAVE DONE FOR YOUR TRIBE!!!!"? I've posted great things about our culture before and no one paid attention to them. From Music to food, from dances to other talents...we have lots of good in our culture. You and people LIKE you just dont' want to see it because of how 'discerning' you are. Whatever. I'd be wasting my breath and time giving  you a list of the great things I treasure in my community/ culture.

Oh, there are plenty of ways you go after our tribe the same ways the Newman does with yours. We own all the banks and the media and are all involved in a massive Zionist conspiracy to dominate the world, we're all cheap, we exaggerate the numbers of people who perished in the Holocaust in order to profit from it as much as possible in the Holocaust industry, 9/11 was really pulled off by the Mossad, we all equate any critism of Israel with antisemetism, we're all part of AIPAC, and the same types of stereotypes go on and on. (Moderators, please note that this is sarcasm). These are the same types of stereotypes and thinking that Newman is using here. Yes, Newman, I know you're rolling up that "moral equivalency" trump card of yours, so save it and don't bother!
Title: Re: Racism against blacks ?
Post by: newman on August 24, 2007, 12:42:39 PM


Oh, there are plenty of ways you go after our tribe the same ways the Newman does with yours. We own all the banks and the media and are all involved in a massive Zionist conspiracy to dominate the world, we're all cheap, we exaggerate the numbers of people who perished in the Holocaust in order to profit from it as much as possible in the Holocaust industry, 9/11 was really pulled off by the Mossad, we all equate any critism of Israel with antisemetism, we're all part of AIPAC, and the same types of stereotypes go on and on. (Moderators, please note that this is sarcasm). These are the same types of stereotypes and thinking that Newman is using here. Yes, Newman, I know you're rolling up that "moral equivalency" trump card of yours, so save it and don't bother!

It's a kicker, aint it? ;)
Title: Re: Racism against blacks ?
Post by: Erica on August 24, 2007, 12:43:15 PM
Quote
m,mmmm....sounds like the typical answer i could expect from you.

You have a black man pointing (looks like a gun to me) at someone

For every Jew a .22

C'mon Kananga, do you really believe this?

The reason every Jew needed his/her .22 was....(drum roll).... BLACKS.

The way I read this is that every Jew needs to be shot with a .22. A little ambiguity here  :-\

"For every Jew a .22" was a famous slogan of the JDL under Meir Kahane!

Where have you been?? ???

Oh! Oh well. I guess I've been missing. I'm here now. In that case, it's clear what this means then.

You're a school teacher, aren't you?

Yes,

That figures. ::)
And why is being a school teacher a bad thing exactly?
Title: Re: Racism against blacks ?
Post by: Erica on August 24, 2007, 12:44:30 PM


Erica, isn't it amazing how Newman makes these types of outrageous and ignorant remarks, yet the forum members become so pissed off at you and me when we both think and react the same way to this. It's these types of remarks that cause such a great "chumminess" between us!

The majority of forum members are highly discerning.

The point that I'm making is that it's not like Erica and I talk on the side developing this master plan to be all chummy in order to [censored] you guys off. We just individually react the same way to ignorant and offensive remarks.

Or as my good buddy CJD put it, you two "Yuk it up".
Then the gamut of you 'YUK IT UP" then, right? You agree with the majority of the members on this site. When you gang up against me and Daniel, isn't that the same thing?
Title: Re: Racism against blacks ?
Post by: Daniel on August 24, 2007, 12:47:41 PM
I'm a convert.  Sometimes I feel jewish and sometimes I don't.

I had the wacky idea that my participation on this forum would help me feel more Jewish by allowing me to confront some of my insecurities about joining the jewish people, and gain a greater appreciation for Israel.  I saw how racist many people are here I figured if I hung aroung it would help me "toughen up" so I can practice Judaism without being intimidated by the Jews in my community who won't accept me.

Kananga, please don't think that most Jews think this way. Most Jews are a lot more moderate in their thinking and speech. This is a fun and intellectually stimulating forum. But you need to take many of these people and the stuff they say with a whole lotta grains of salt! :)
Title: Re: Racism against blacks ?
Post by: Erica on August 24, 2007, 12:48:38 PM

I'm not sure exactly what you mean by you don't believe they are equal to any race on earth. Are you saying that they are unequal to any other race on earth? I don't say that blacks are inferior and I do speak to them, work with them, teach them, learn from them, befriend them, and then some. And I couldn't care less about being called a shvartze-lover.

What do you possibly learn from THEM?

How to hold up a liquor store??
Newman I almost called you something. This was an ignorant response. Sorry, but it was. This is how I know that you don't practice what you preach. You often say that you take people in general at face value when you're secretly thinking crud like this "how to hold up a liquor store". You can't learn anything else from the good things in our culture? Wait, I forgot who I'm asking.
What good things?


If I said the same thing about the Jewish culture "WHAT good things?" Would you answer me nicely or react with a statement like "LOOK AT ALL THE GOOD THINGS JEWISH PEOPLE HAVE DONE FOR YOUR TRIBE!!!!"? I've posted great things about our culture before and no one paid attention to them. From Music to food, from dances to other talents...we have lots of good in our culture. You and people LIKE you just dont' want to see it because of how 'discerning' you are. Whatever. I'd be wasting my breath and time giving  you a list of the great things I treasure in my community/ culture.

Name an area of significant black population where this great culture that we can learn from is evident.
I have a better idea, why don't you google it. Or is "Google" to 'left-wing' for you? I'm tired of being positive and showing tolerance for your ignorance. I'll just hold the good things about my culture to my heart and pass them on to my children. Anyone who really wants to know about how good our culture is (sans the negative culture no one here can get away from), as me, and I'll be more than willing to share it with you.
Title: Re: Racism against blacks ?
Post by: Daniel on August 24, 2007, 12:50:27 PM


Oh, there are plenty of ways you go after our tribe the same ways the Newman does with yours. We own all the banks and the media and are all involved in a massive Zionist conspiracy to dominate the world, we're all cheap, we exaggerate the numbers of people who perished in the Holocaust in order to profit from it as much as possible in the Holocaust industry, 9/11 was really pulled off by the Mossad, we all equate any critism of Israel with antisemetism, we're all part of AIPAC, and the same types of stereotypes go on and on. (Moderators, please note that this is sarcasm). These are the same types of stereotypes and thinking that Newman is using here. Yes, Newman, I know you're rolling up that "moral equivalency" trump card of yours, so save it and don't bother!

It's a kicker, aint it? ;)

Yeah, and I find it interesting that neither you or anyone else have explained to me how we can be opposed and deem evil both moral relativism and moral equivalence at the same time when the two of them are polar opposites. I know that goes into a much deeper philosophical realm. Care to take the plunge? :)
Title: Re: Racism against blacks ?
Post by: newman on August 24, 2007, 12:53:08 PM


Name an area of significant black population where this great culture that we can learn from is evident.
I have a better idea, why don't you google it. Or is "Google" to 'left-wing' for you? I'm tired of being positive and showing tolerance for your ignorance. I'll just hold the good things about my culture to my heart and pass them on to my children. Anyone who really wants to know about how good our culture is (sans the negative culture no one here can get away from), as me, and I'll be more than willing to share it with you.

I'll take that as a "can't do it".
Title: Re: Racism against blacks ?
Post by: newman on August 24, 2007, 12:58:30 PM


Oh, there are plenty of ways you go after our tribe the same ways the Newman does with yours. We own all the banks and the media and are all involved in a massive Zionist conspiracy to dominate the world, we're all cheap, we exaggerate the numbers of people who perished in the Holocaust in order to profit from it as much as possible in the Holocaust industry, 9/11 was really pulled off by the Mossad, we all equate any critism of Israel with antisemetism, we're all part of AIPAC, and the same types of stereotypes go on and on. (Moderators, please note that this is sarcasm). These are the same types of stereotypes and thinking that Newman is using here. Yes, Newman, I know you're rolling up that "moral equivalency" trump card of yours, so save it and don't bother!

It's a kicker, aint it? ;)

Yeah, and I find it interesting that neither you or anyone else have explained to me how we can be opposed and deem evil both moral relativism and moral equivalence at the same time when the two of them are polar opposites. I know that goes into a much deeper philosophical realm. Care to take the plunge? :)

It's 3AM here. Let's stick to zoology for now.
Title: Re: Racism against blacks ?
Post by: Erica on August 24, 2007, 01:03:28 PM


Name an area of significant black population where this great culture that we can learn from is evident.
I have a better idea, why don't you google it. Or is "Google" to 'left-wing' for you? I'm tired of being positive and showing tolerance for your ignorance. I'll just hold the good things about my culture to my heart and pass them on to my children. Anyone who really wants to know about how good our culture is (sans the negative culture no one here can get away from), as me, and I'll be more than willing to share it with you.

I'll take that as a "can't do it".
No that's not my answer idiot boy, because I've explained and explained and no one paid attention. Wait, I'm not telling the truth, you could only come up with "Good Times" as black culture. My bad. I can MORE than rattle off all of the good things in black culture but it would be a waste of my time because all you see is bad.
Title: Re: Racism against blacks ?
Post by: newman on August 24, 2007, 01:08:41 PM


Name an area of significant black population where this great culture that we can learn from is evident.
I have a better idea, why don't you google it. Or is "Google" to 'left-wing' for you? I'm tired of being positive and showing tolerance for your ignorance. I'll just hold the good things about my culture to my heart and pass them on to my children. Anyone who really wants to know about how good our culture is (sans the negative culture no one here can get away from), as me, and I'll be more than willing to share it with you.

I'll take that as a "can't do it".
No that's not my answer idiot boy, because I've explained and explained and no one paid attention. Wait, I'm not telling the truth, you could only come up with "Good Times" as black culture. My bad. I can MORE than rattle off all of the good things in black culture but it would be a waste of my time because all you see is bad.

I'm deeply hurt by that personal insult. I've always felt we were rather close (especially after that nice offer you made before).

Have I ever lobbed personal insults at you?...tsk...tsk
Title: Re: Racism against blacks ?
Post by: Kananga on August 24, 2007, 01:15:36 PM
It's not jewish people really, it's just the way I am.  Judaism places a strong emphasis on community.  But I've always been sort of a lone wolf in the sense that I don't ask for much from people nor do I expect much from people. 

Shabbat has become one of my most favorite things in life.  On Saturday morning on the way to the synagogue I always try to walk through Rock Creek Park, taking in everything all the park is, in sort of a walking meditation.  By the time I get there I see these guys around the bimah, the chazzan is leading the davening while everyone is there seems to be engaged in the whole spirit of things.  "Yitgadal, v'Yitkadash shmay rabba.." This is when I really feel the "community".   It's only times like during kiddush lunch or around the shabbat table when the enviroment is more intimate is when feel a little disconnected.  Sometimes I feel like I have to justify why I'm there, as someone always has to ask "Why did you convert?  I would imagine you have a hard enough time being BLACK."  Sometimes I feel like saying "The only hard time I ever get is being put on the spot and being made to explain myself".  I can't help but to wonder what's going throught this person's head.

Title: Re: Racism against blacks ?
Post by: Erica on August 24, 2007, 01:16:23 PM


Name an area of significant black population where this great culture that we can learn from is evident.
I have a better idea, why don't you google it. Or is "Google" to 'left-wing' for you? I'm tired of being positive and showing tolerance for your ignorance. I'll just hold the good things about my culture to my heart and pass them on to my children. Anyone who really wants to know about how good our culture is (sans the negative culture no one here can get away from), as me, and I'll be more than willing to share it with you.

I'll take that as a "can't do it".
No that's not my answer idiot boy, because I've explained and explained and no one paid attention. Wait, I'm not telling the truth, you could only come up with "Good Times" as black culture. My bad. I can MORE than rattle off all of the good things in black culture but it would be a waste of my time because all you see is bad.

I'm deeply hurt by that personal insult. I've always felt we were rather close (especially after that nice offer you made before).

Have I ever lobbed personal insults at you?...tsk...tsk
"Sister", "Honeychild", "girlfriend"..I consider those personal insults because of the way you say them to me, and also because you refuse NOT to give me pet names. I don't see you calling bullcat or any other female here those names. You only call me those names because I'm a black female and its common in the black community to hear them. That's ignorant.

We've never been close, we've had understandings and misunderstandings but I'm not going to be forced into thinking the way YOU do, and vice/versa.I'm not here to make friends. And just because you know something about "Good Times" dosen't make you all-knowing about the trials and tribulations of the ghetto and black culture.
Title: Re: Racism against blacks ?
Post by: Kananga on August 24, 2007, 01:18:18 PM
James Evans sort of reminds me of my father.
Title: Re: Racism against blacks ?
Post by: Daniel on August 24, 2007, 01:22:08 PM


Name an area of significant black population where this great culture that we can learn from is evident.
I have a better idea, why don't you google it. Or is "Google" to 'left-wing' for you? I'm tired of being positive and showing tolerance for your ignorance. I'll just hold the good things about my culture to my heart and pass them on to my children. Anyone who really wants to know about how good our culture is (sans the negative culture no one here can get away from), as me, and I'll be more than willing to share it with you.

I'll take that as a "can't do it".
No that's not my answer idiot boy, because I've explained and explained and no one paid attention. Wait, I'm not telling the truth, you could only come up with "Good Times" as black culture. My bad. I can MORE than rattle off all of the good things in black culture but it would be a waste of my time because all you see is bad.

I agree. Even if you were to rattle off all the good things and the notorious black people, people like him would still look at them as nothing so great. Martin Luther King, Harriet Tubman, Frederick Douglas, Dred Scott, Nelson Mandella, Booker T. Washington, Thurgood Marshall, they're all a bunch of losers, communists, and Jew and whitey haters.
Title: Re: Racism against blacks ?
Post by: newman on August 24, 2007, 01:23:43 PM


Name an area of significant black population where this great culture that we can learn from is evident.
I have a better idea, why don't you google it. Or is "Google" to 'left-wing' for you? I'm tired of being positive and showing tolerance for your ignorance. I'll just hold the good things about my culture to my heart and pass them on to my children. Anyone who really wants to know about how good our culture is (sans the negative culture no one here can get away from), as me, and I'll be more than willing to share it with you.

I'll take that as a "can't do it".
No that's not my answer idiot boy, because I've explained and explained and no one paid attention. Wait, I'm not telling the truth, you could only come up with "Good Times" as black culture. My bad. I can MORE than rattle off all of the good things in black culture but it would be a waste of my time because all you see is bad.

I'm deeply hurt by that personal insult. I've always felt we were rather close (especially after that nice offer you made before).

Have I ever lobbed personal insults at you?...tsk...tsk
"Sister", "Honeychild", "girlfriend"..I consider those personal insults because of the way you say them to me, and also because you refuse NOT to give me pet names. I don't see you calling bullcat or any other female here those names. You only call me those names because I'm a black female and its common in the black community to hear them. That's ignorant.

We've never been close, we've had understandings and misunderstandings but I'm not going to be forced into thinking the way YOU do, and vice/versa.I'm not here to make friends. And just because you know something about "Good Times" dosen't make you all-knowing about the trials and tribulations of the ghetto and black culture.

I call Bullcat pet names from time to time.

You're annoyed because your tactic of deflection and pretending to miss the cental thrust of an argument doesn't work with me.

I also saw "Colours", "Boys n the Hood" AND several 1970s black exploitation movies. How can you call me ignorant of black culture?
Title: Re: Racism against blacks ?
Post by: Daniel on August 24, 2007, 01:24:09 PM
It's not jewish people really, it's just the way I am.  Judaism places a strong emphasis on community.  But I've always been sort of a lone wolf in the sense that I don't ask for much from people nor do I expect much from people. 

Shabbat has become one of my most favorite things in life.  On Saturday morning on the way to the synagogue I always try to walk through Rock Creek Park, taking in everything all the park is, in sort of a walking meditation.  By the time I get there I see these guys around the bimah, the chazzan is leading the davening while everyone is there seems to be engaged in the whole spirit of things.  "Yitgadal, v'Yitkadash shmay rabba.." This is when I really feel the "community".   It's only times like during kiddush lunch or around the shabbat table when the enviroment is more intimate is when feel a little disconnected.  Sometimes I feel like I have to justify why I'm there, as someone always has to ask "Why did you convert?  I would imagine you have a hard enough time being BLACK."  Sometimes I feel like saying "The only hard time I ever get is being put on the spot and being made to explain myself".  I can't help but to wonder what's going throught this person's head.



I think that was asked of Sammy Davis, Jr. this same question. I forget if he had a response and what it was.
Title: Re: Racism against blacks ?
Post by: Daniel on August 24, 2007, 01:26:54 PM


Name an area of significant black population where this great culture that we can learn from is evident.
I have a better idea, why don't you google it. Or is "Google" to 'left-wing' for you? I'm tired of being positive and showing tolerance for your ignorance. I'll just hold the good things about my culture to my heart and pass them on to my children. Anyone who really wants to know about how good our culture is (sans the negative culture no one here can get away from), as me, and I'll be more than willing to share it with you.

I'll take that as a "can't do it".
No that's not my answer idiot boy, because I've explained and explained and no one paid attention. Wait, I'm not telling the truth, you could only come up with "Good Times" as black culture. My bad. I can MORE than rattle off all of the good things in black culture but it would be a waste of my time because all you see is bad.

I'm deeply hurt by that personal insult. I've always felt we were rather close (especially after that nice offer you made before).

Have I ever lobbed personal insults at you?...tsk...tsk
"Sister", "Honeychild", "girlfriend"..I consider those personal insults because of the way you say them to me, and also because you refuse NOT to give me pet names. I don't see you calling bullcat or any other female here those names. You only call me those names because I'm a black female and its common in the black community to hear them. That's ignorant.

We've never been close, we've had understandings and misunderstandings but I'm not going to be forced into thinking the way YOU do, and vice/versa.I'm not here to make friends. And just because you know something about "Good Times" dosen't make you all-knowing about the trials and tribulations of the ghetto and black culture.

I call Bullcat pet names from time to time.

You're annoyed because your tactic of deflection and pretending to miss the cental thrust of an argument doesn't work with me.

I also saw "Colours", "Boys n the Hood" AND several 1970s black exploitation movies. How can you call me ignorant of black culture?

Oh! You are hysterical! Yeah, that's black culture in a nutshell! I saw all those movies and Soul Plane too! Give me a Ph.D. on black culture!  :laugh:
Title: Re: Racism against blacks ?
Post by: newman on August 24, 2007, 01:33:09 PM


I call Bullcat pet names from time to time.

You're annoyed because your tactic of deflection and pretending to miss the cental thrust of an argument doesn't work with me.

I also saw "Colours", "Boys n the Hood" AND several 1970s black exploitation movies. How can you call me ignorant of black culture?

Oh! You are hysterical! Yeah, that's black culture in a nutshell! I saw all those movies and Soul Plane too! Give me a Ph.D. on black culture!  :laugh:

You gotta see a couple of prison movies to get a Ph.D. in negrology.
Title: Re: Racism against blacks ?
Post by: Daniel on August 24, 2007, 01:33:35 PM


Name an area of significant black population where this great culture that we can learn from is evident.
I have a better idea, why don't you google it. Or is "Google" to 'left-wing' for you? I'm tired of being positive and showing tolerance for your ignorance. I'll just hold the good things about my culture to my heart and pass them on to my children. Anyone who really wants to know about how good our culture is (sans the negative culture no one here can get away from), as me, and I'll be more than willing to share it with you.

I'll take that as a "can't do it".
No that's not my answer idiot boy, because I've explained and explained and no one paid attention. Wait, I'm not telling the truth, you could only come up with "Good Times" as black culture. My bad. I can MORE than rattle off all of the good things in black culture but it would be a waste of my time because all you see is bad.

I'm deeply hurt by that personal insult. I've always felt we were rather close (especially after that nice offer you made before).

Have I ever lobbed personal insults at you?...tsk...tsk

Telling a victim of sexual assault that her feelings are wrong is cause enough to get your nuts chopped off.
Title: Re: Racism against blacks ?
Post by: newman on August 24, 2007, 01:37:48 PM


Name an area of significant black population where this great culture that we can learn from is evident.
I have a better idea, why don't you google it. Or is "Google" to 'left-wing' for you? I'm tired of being positive and showing tolerance for your ignorance. I'll just hold the good things about my culture to my heart and pass them on to my children. Anyone who really wants to know about how good our culture is (sans the negative culture no one here can get away from), as me, and I'll be more than willing to share it with you.

I'll take that as a "can't do it".
No that's not my answer idiot boy, because I've explained and explained and no one paid attention. Wait, I'm not telling the truth, you could only come up with "Good Times" as black culture. My bad. I can MORE than rattle off all of the good things in black culture but it would be a waste of my time because all you see is bad.

I'm deeply hurt by that personal insult. I've always felt we were rather close (especially after that nice offer you made before).

Have I ever lobbed personal insults at you?...tsk...tsk

Telling a victim of sexual assault that her feelings are wrong is cause enough to get your nuts chopped off.

I said NO SUCH THING.

She brought up a hypothetical that I responded to.

Find the post where I did such a thing.....I dare you.
Title: Re: Racism against blacks ?
Post by: Erica on August 24, 2007, 01:39:06 PM


Name an area of significant black population where this great culture that we can learn from is evident.
I have a better idea, why don't you google it. Or is "Google" to 'left-wing' for you? I'm tired of being positive and showing tolerance for your ignorance. I'll just hold the good things about my culture to my heart and pass them on to my children. Anyone who really wants to know about how good our culture is (sans the negative culture no one here can get away from), as me, and I'll be more than willing to share it with you.

I'll take that as a "can't do it".
No that's not my answer idiot boy, because I've explained and explained and no one paid attention. Wait, I'm not telling the truth, you could only come up with "Good Times" as black culture. My bad. I can MORE than rattle off all of the good things in black culture but it would be a waste of my time because all you see is bad.

I'm deeply hurt by that personal insult. I've always felt we were rather close (especially after that nice offer you made before).

Have I ever lobbed personal insults at you?...tsk...tsk
"Sister", "Honeychild", "girlfriend"..I consider those personal insults because of the way you say them to me, and also because you refuse NOT to give me pet names. I don't see you calling bullcat or any other female here those names. You only call me those names because I'm a black female and its common in the black community to hear them. That's ignorant.

We've never been close, we've had understandings and misunderstandings but I'm not going to be forced into thinking the way YOU do, and vice/versa.I'm not here to make friends. And just because you know something about "Good Times" dosen't make you all-knowing about the trials and tribulations of the ghetto and black culture.

I call Bullcat pet names from time to time.

You're annoyed because your tactic of deflection and pretending to miss the cental thrust of an argument doesn't work with me.

I also saw "Colours", "Boys n the Hood" AND several 1970s black exploitation movies. How can you call me ignorant of black culture?
Yeah, Boyz in the Hood is a GREAT example of black culture! I forgot. I don't think you need to know any more about black culture, you've got it all figured out. ::) hmph.
Title: Re: Racism against blacks ?
Post by: Daniel on August 24, 2007, 01:53:32 PM


Name an area of significant black population where this great culture that we can learn from is evident.
I have a better idea, why don't you google it. Or is "Google" to 'left-wing' for you? I'm tired of being positive and showing tolerance for your ignorance. I'll just hold the good things about my culture to my heart and pass them on to my children. Anyone who really wants to know about how good our culture is (sans the negative culture no one here can get away from), as me, and I'll be more than willing to share it with you.

I'll take that as a "can't do it".
No that's not my answer idiot boy, because I've explained and explained and no one paid attention. Wait, I'm not telling the truth, you could only come up with "Good Times" as black culture. My bad. I can MORE than rattle off all of the good things in black culture but it would be a waste of my time because all you see is bad.

I'm deeply hurt by that personal insult. I've always felt we were rather close (especially after that nice offer you made before).

Have I ever lobbed personal insults at you?...tsk...tsk
"Sister", "Honeychild", "girlfriend"..I consider those personal insults because of the way you say them to me, and also because you refuse NOT to give me pet names. I don't see you calling bullcat or any other female here those names. You only call me those names because I'm a black female and its common in the black community to hear them. That's ignorant.

We've never been close, we've had understandings and misunderstandings but I'm not going to be forced into thinking the way YOU do, and vice/versa.I'm not here to make friends. And just because you know something about "Good Times" dosen't make you all-knowing about the trials and tribulations of the ghetto and black culture.

I call Bullcat pet names from time to time.

You're annoyed because your tactic of deflection and pretending to miss the cental thrust of an argument doesn't work with me.

I also saw "Colours", "Boys n the Hood" AND several 1970s black exploitation movies. How can you call me ignorant of black culture?
Yeah, Boyz in the Hood is a GREAT example of black culture! I forgot. I don't think you need to know any more about black culture, you've got it all figured out. ::) hmph.

Actually, it's "Don't be a Menace to Society while Drinking your Juice in the Hood" that sums up black culture best since it combines all of the movies which provide the greatest examples of black culture ;)
Title: Re: Racism against blacks ?
Post by: Kananga on August 24, 2007, 01:58:44 PM
It's not jewish people really, it's just the way I am.  Judaism places a strong emphasis on community.  But I've always been sort of a lone wolf in the sense that I don't ask for much from people nor do I expect much from people. 

Shabbat has become one of my most favorite things in life.  On Saturday morning on the way to the synagogue I always try to walk through Rock Creek Park, taking in everything all the park is, in sort of a walking meditation.  By the time I get there I see these guys around the bimah, the chazzan is leading the davening while everyone is there seems to be engaged in the whole spirit of things.  "Yitgadal, v'Yitkadash shmay rabba.." This is when I really feel the "community".   It's only times like during kiddush lunch or around the shabbat table when the enviroment is more intimate is when feel a little disconnected.  Sometimes I feel like I have to justify why I'm there, as someone always has to ask "Why did you convert?  I would imagine you have a hard enough time being BLACK."  Sometimes I feel like saying "The only hard time I ever get is being put on the spot and being made to explain myself".  I can't help but to wonder what's going throught this person's head.



I think that was asked of Sammy Davis, Jr. this same question. I forget if he had a response and what it was.

It the way it's asked.  Some people just through it out there like it was something as trivial as putting on a new suit, and then some seen to ask with great suspicion.  "Why?  Why?"  I get sick of it.  It makes me not to want to be around them.

In all fairness, there is a petition going around out there for the Israeli goverment change the way they honor all conversions.  It seems that the jist of it has to do with reasons analogous to the effect a foreign antibody would have once introduced to a  persons immune system.
Title: Re: Racism against blacks ?
Post by: nessuno on August 24, 2007, 02:01:49 PM


Name an area of significant black population where this great culture that we can learn from is evident.
I have a better idea, why don't you google it. Or is "Google" to 'left-wing' for you? I'm tired of being positive and showing tolerance for your ignorance. I'll just hold the good things about my culture to my heart and pass them on to my children. Anyone who really wants to know about how good our culture is (sans the negative culture no one here can get away from), as me, and I'll be more than willing to share it with you.

I'll take that as a "can't do it".
No that's not my answer idiot boy, because I've explained and explained and no one paid attention. Wait, I'm not telling the truth, you could only come up with "Good Times" as black culture. My bad. I can MORE than rattle off all of the good things in black culture but it would be a waste of my time because all you see is bad.

I'm deeply hurt by that personal insult. I've always felt we were rather close (especially after that nice offer you made before).

Have I ever lobbed personal insults at you?...tsk...tsk
"Sister", "Honeychild", "girlfriend"..I consider those personal insults because of the way you say them to me, and also because you refuse NOT to give me pet names. I don't see you calling bullcat or any other female here those names. You only call me those names because I'm a black female and its common in the black community to hear them. That's ignorant.

We've never been close, we've had understandings and misunderstandings but I'm not going to be forced into thinking the way YOU do, and vice/versa.I'm not here to make friends. And just because you know something about "Good Times" dosen't make you all-knowing about the trials and tribulations of the ghetto and black culture.

I call Bullcat pet names from time to time.

You're annoyed because your tactic of deflection and pretending to miss the cental thrust of an argument doesn't work with me.

I also saw "Colours", "Boys n the Hood" AND several 1970s black exploitation movies. How can you call me ignorant of black culture?
Yep - I've been called a few different names by Newman.   ;)
Title: Re: Racism against blacks ?
Post by: Erica on August 24, 2007, 02:02:02 PM


Name an area of significant black population where this great culture that we can learn from is evident.
I have a better idea, why don't you google it. Or is "Google" to 'left-wing' for you? I'm tired of being positive and showing tolerance for your ignorance. I'll just hold the good things about my culture to my heart and pass them on to my children. Anyone who really wants to know about how good our culture is (sans the negative culture no one here can get away from), as me, and I'll be more than willing to share it with you.

I'll take that as a "can't do it".
No that's not my answer idiot boy, because I've explained and explained and no one paid attention. Wait, I'm not telling the truth, you could only come up with "Good Times" as black culture. My bad. I can MORE than rattle off all of the good things in black culture but it would be a waste of my time because all you see is bad.

I'm deeply hurt by that personal insult. I've always felt we were rather close (especially after that nice offer you made before).

Have I ever lobbed personal insults at you?...tsk...tsk
"Sister", "Honeychild", "girlfriend"..I consider those personal insults because of the way you say them to me, and also because you refuse NOT to give me pet names. I don't see you calling bullcat or any other female here those names. You only call me those names because I'm a black female and its common in the black community to hear them. That's ignorant.

We've never been close, we've had understandings and misunderstandings but I'm not going to be forced into thinking the way YOU do, and vice/versa.I'm not here to make friends. And just because you know something about "Good Times" dosen't make you all-knowing about the trials and tribulations of the ghetto and black culture.

I call Bullcat pet names from time to time.

You're annoyed because your tactic of deflection and pretending to miss the cental thrust of an argument doesn't work with me.

I also saw "Colours", "Boys n the Hood" AND several 1970s black exploitation movies. How can you call me ignorant of black culture?
Yeah, Boyz in the Hood is a GREAT example of black culture! I forgot. I don't think you need to know any more about black culture, you've got it all figured out. ::) hmph.

Actually, it's "Don't be a Menace to Society while Drinking your Juice in the Hood" that sums up black culture best since it combines all of the movies which provide the greatest examples of black culture ;)
When I was younger, that movie was so funny because of the embellishment on what people thought the ghetto was like...now its just stupid. lol


Black culture, Newman isn't representative of the blacksploitation movies you've seen or how many blak men you've heard say "homie"... its an experience. Its a dance move, something added to the food we eat, an excellent song, the way a church gospel choir, a gang free block party, its creative hairstyles...its everything that's the opposite of what YOU think it is.
Title: Re: Racism against blacks ?
Post by: Daniel on August 24, 2007, 02:03:33 PM


Name an area of significant black population where this great culture that we can learn from is evident.
I have a better idea, why don't you google it. Or is "Google" to 'left-wing' for you? I'm tired of being positive and showing tolerance for your ignorance. I'll just hold the good things about my culture to my heart and pass them on to my children. Anyone who really wants to know about how good our culture is (sans the negative culture no one here can get away from), as me, and I'll be more than willing to share it with you.

I'll take that as a "can't do it".
No that's not my answer idiot boy, because I've explained and explained and no one paid attention. Wait, I'm not telling the truth, you could only come up with "Good Times" as black culture. My bad. I can MORE than rattle off all of the good things in black culture but it would be a waste of my time because all you see is bad.

I'm deeply hurt by that personal insult. I've always felt we were rather close (especially after that nice offer you made before).

Have I ever lobbed personal insults at you?...tsk...tsk

Telling a victim of sexual assault that her feelings are wrong is cause enough to get your nuts chopped off.

I said NO SUCH THING.

She brought up a hypothetical that I responded to.

Find the post where I did such a thing.....I dare you.

I'm not saying that you did this directly to her. But you made a generalization about it. That's what I was referring to. Even though you didn't explicitly state that her feelings are wrong, the very act of telling a victim of sexual assault that their feelings could be wrong, even in a general sense, is unconscionable, at least in my opinion.
Title: Re: Racism against blacks ?
Post by: Daniel on August 24, 2007, 02:07:41 PM


Name an area of significant black population where this great culture that we can learn from is evident.
I have a better idea, why don't you google it. Or is "Google" to 'left-wing' for you? I'm tired of being positive and showing tolerance for your ignorance. I'll just hold the good things about my culture to my heart and pass them on to my children. Anyone who really wants to know about how good our culture is (sans the negative culture no one here can get away from), as me, and I'll be more than willing to share it with you.

I'll take that as a "can't do it".
No that's not my answer idiot boy, because I've explained and explained and no one paid attention. Wait, I'm not telling the truth, you could only come up with "Good Times" as black culture. My bad. I can MORE than rattle off all of the good things in black culture but it would be a waste of my time because all you see is bad.

I'm deeply hurt by that personal insult. I've always felt we were rather close (especially after that nice offer you made before).

Have I ever lobbed personal insults at you?...tsk...tsk
"Sister", "Honeychild", "girlfriend"..I consider those personal insults because of the way you say them to me, and also because you refuse NOT to give me pet names. I don't see you calling bullcat or any other female here those names. You only call me those names because I'm a black female and its common in the black community to hear them. That's ignorant.

We've never been close, we've had understandings and misunderstandings but I'm not going to be forced into thinking the way YOU do, and vice/versa.I'm not here to make friends. And just because you know something about "Good Times" dosen't make you all-knowing about the trials and tribulations of the ghetto and black culture.

I call Bullcat pet names from time to time.

You're annoyed because your tactic of deflection and pretending to miss the cental thrust of an argument doesn't work with me.

I also saw "Colours", "Boys n the Hood" AND several 1970s black exploitation movies. How can you call me ignorant of black culture?
Yeah, Boyz in the Hood is a GREAT example of black culture! I forgot. I don't think you need to know any more about black culture, you've got it all figured out. ::) hmph.

Actually, it's "Don't be a Menace to Society while Drinking your Juice in the Hood" that sums up black culture best since it combines all of the movies which provide the greatest examples of black culture ;)
When I was younger, that movie was so funny because of the embellishment on what people thought the ghetto was like...now its just stupid. lol


Black culture, Newman isn't representative of the blacksploitation movies you've seen or how many blak men you've heard say "homie"... its an experience. Its a dance move, something added to the food we eat, an excellent song, the way a church gospel choir, a gang free block party, its creative hairstyles...its everything that's the opposite of what YOU think it is.

One of the funniest scenes ever was the picnic scene showing everyone casually dancing with each other and then showing the couple going at it in the back :) That, and "Children? What do you say when you see a nice young black gentleman?" "Are you my daddy?" It's so wrong yet still so funny! :)
Title: Re: Racism against blacks ?
Post by: newman on August 24, 2007, 02:11:19 PM


I said NO SUCH THING.

She brought up a hypothetical that I responded to.

Find the post where I did such a thing.....I dare you.

I'm not saying that you did this directly to her. But you made a generalization about it. That's what I was referring to. Even though you didn't explicitly state that her feelings are wrong, the very act of telling a victim of sexual assault that their feelings could be wrong, even in a general sense, is unconscionable, at least in my opinion.

I didn't even do THAT.

Find the post and make your case if you're going to accuse me.
Title: Re: Racism against blacks ?
Post by: newman on August 24, 2007, 02:14:43 PM


Black culture, Newman isn't representative of the blacksploitation movies you've seen or how many blak men you've heard say "homie"... its an experience. Its a dance move, something added to the food we eat, an excellent song, the way a church gospel choir, a gang free block party, its creative hairstyles...its everything that's the opposite of what YOU think it is.

It's also crack,drive-by shootings, muggings, welfare, food stamps, KFC, bastard babies, ghettos..............
Title: Re: Racism against blacks ?
Post by: Daniel on August 24, 2007, 02:20:47 PM


I said NO SUCH THING.

She brought up a hypothetical that I responded to.

Find the post where I did such a thing.....I dare you.

I'm not saying that you did this directly to her. But you made a generalization about it. That's what I was referring to. Even though you didn't explicitly state that her feelings are wrong, the very act of telling a victim of sexual assault that their feelings could be wrong, even in a general sense, is unconscionable, at least in my opinion.

I didn't even do THAT.

Find the post and make your case if you're going to accuse me.

Oh, I don't remember which thread or page it was on. It was when you were making reference that if a rape victim fears blacks, then she is "right" and if she fears whites, then she is "wrong" according to the "statistics."
Title: Re: Racism against blacks ?
Post by: newman on August 24, 2007, 02:26:37 PM


I said NO SUCH THING.

She brought up a hypothetical that I responded to.

Find the post where I did such a thing.....I dare you.

I'm not saying that you did this directly to her. But you made a generalization about it. That's what I was referring to. Even though you didn't explicitly state that her feelings are wrong, the very act of telling a victim of sexual assault that their feelings could be wrong, even in a general sense, is unconscionable, at least in my opinion.

I didn't even do THAT.

Find the post and make your case if you're going to accuse me.

Oh, I don't remember which thread or page it was on. It was when you were making reference that if a rape victim fears blacks, then she is "right" and if she fears whites, then she is "wrong" according to the "statistics."

That don't feed the bulldog. Read the post in context. I was not in any way at fault.
Title: Re: Racism against blacks ?
Post by: Erica on August 24, 2007, 02:27:08 PM


Black culture, Newman isn't representative of the blacksploitation movies you've seen or how many blak men you've heard say "homie"... its an experience. Its a dance move, something added to the food we eat, an excellent song, the way a church gospel choir, a gang free block party, its creative hairstyles...its everything that's the opposite of what YOU think it is.

It's also crack,drive-by shootings, muggings, welfare, food stamps, KFC, bastard babies, ghettos..............
See. You just proved how stupid and unwilling to look at good you are by rattling off all of that negativity except KFC>.. how in the hell is KFC a bad thing? Foodstamps and welfare are basically the same...and the ghetto isn't as bad for some as it is for others. You asked me to list some good things and I did and THEN you did exactly what I predicted you'd do...sh** on it.
Title: Re: Racism against blacks ?
Post by: newman on August 24, 2007, 02:36:37 PM


Black culture, Newman isn't representative of the blacksploitation movies you've seen or how many blak men you've heard say "homie"... its an experience. Its a dance move, something added to the food we eat, an excellent song, the way a church gospel choir, a gang free block party, its creative hairstyles...its everything that's the opposite of what YOU think it is.

It's also crack,drive-by shootings, muggings, welfare, food stamps, KFC, bastard babies, ghettos..............
See. You just proved how stupid and unwilling to look at good you are by rattling off all of that negativity except KFC>.. how in the hell is KFC a bad thing? Foodstamps and welfare are basically the same...and the ghetto isn't as bad for some as it is for others. You asked me to list some good things and I did and THEN you did exactly what I predicted you'd do...sh** on it.

KFC is NOT a bad thing. You're right on.

That just proves I CAN see the good as well as the bad.
Title: Re: Racism against blacks ?
Post by: Erica on August 24, 2007, 02:40:22 PM


Black culture, Newman isn't representative of the blacksploitation movies you've seen or how many blak men you've heard say "homie"... its an experience. Its a dance move, something added to the food we eat, an excellent song, the way a church gospel choir, a gang free block party, its creative hairstyles...its everything that's the opposite of what YOU think it is.

It's also crack,drive-by shootings, muggings, welfare, food stamps, KFC, bastard babies, ghettos..............
See. You just proved how stupid and unwilling to look at good you are by rattling off all of that negativity except KFC>.. how in the hell is KFC a bad thing? Foodstamps and welfare are basically the same...and the ghetto isn't as bad for some as it is for others. You asked me to list some good things and I did and THEN you did exactly what I predicted you'd do...sh** on it.

KFC is NOT a bad thing. You're right on.

That just proves I CAN see the good as well as the bad.
So far you only have Blacksplooitation movies, Good Times and KFC. You're not looking deep enough. Its almost like you're avoiding seeing that there's more to black American culture than meets YOUR eye.
Title: Re: Racism against blacks ?
Post by: newman on August 24, 2007, 02:44:06 PM


KFC is NOT a bad thing. You're right on.

That just proves I CAN see the good as well as the bad.
So far you only have Blacksplooitation movies, Good Times and KFC. You're not looking deep enough. Its almost like you're avoiding seeing that there's more to black American culture than meets YOUR eye.

Did I mention Louis Farrakan's nation of islam and space ships comming to suck us whities up?
Title: Re: Racism against blacks ?
Post by: Mishmaat on August 24, 2007, 02:48:26 PM
It's not jewish people really, it's just the way I am.  Judaism places a strong emphasis on community.  But I've always been sort of a lone wolf in the sense that I don't ask for much from people nor do I expect much from people. 

Shabbat has become one of my most favorite things in life.  On Saturday morning on the way to the synagogue I always try to walk through Rock Creek Park, taking in everything all the park is, in sort of a walking meditation.  By the time I get there I see these guys around the bimah, the chazzan is leading the davening while everyone is there seems to be engaged in the whole spirit of things.  "Yitgadal, v'Yitkadash shmay rabba.." This is when I really feel the "community".   It's only times like during kiddush lunch or around the shabbat table when the enviroment is more intimate is when feel a little disconnected.  Sometimes I feel like I have to justify why I'm there, as someone always has to ask "Why did you convert?  I would imagine you have a hard enough time being BLACK."  Sometimes I feel like saying "The only hard time I ever get is being put on the spot and being made to explain myself".  I can't help but to wonder what's going throught this person's head.



You're not supposed to be reminded that you're a convert. Once you convert you're Ben Avraham (Son of Abraham) and a part of the eternal covenant.

I really hope that you have a reasonable time frame to make aliyah and learn Hebrew. If you go to Israel believe me you will not experience this nonsense.

Of course, people will make linguistic and cultural distinctions. "Oh, that's an American, that's an Ethiopian, that's a Morrocan..." Beyond that, you'll integrate well into Israeli society.
Title: Re: Racism against blacks ?
Post by: Erica on August 24, 2007, 02:50:29 PM


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KFC is NOT a bad thing. You're right on.

That just proves I CAN see the good as well as the bad.Did I mention Louis Farrakan's nation of islam and space ships comming to suck us whities up?


So far you only have Blacksplooitation movies, Good Times and KFC. You're not looking deep enough. Its almost like you're avoiding seeing that there's more to black American culture than meets YOUR eye.
Get out of the past. Louis Farrakhan hasn't said that in YEARS. Although I think he's an asshat for saying it in the first place, get over it! I can get over the fact that slavery happened..but you can't get over the fact that Jesse Jackson said "Hymie Town" back in 1984. The MEGA asshat HE is, get over it. Come up with something more recent, for the love of Pete.


Title: Re: Racism against blacks ?
Post by: newman on August 24, 2007, 02:59:02 PM


KFC is NOT a bad thing. You're right on.

That just proves I CAN see the good as well as the bad.Did I mention Louis Farrakan's nation of islam and space ships comming to suck us whities up?
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So far you only have Blacksplooitation movies, Good Times and KFC. You're not looking deep enough. Its almost like you're avoiding seeing that there's more to black American culture than meets YOUR eye.
Get out of the past. Louis Farrakhan hasn't said that in YEARS. Although I think he's an asshat for saying it in the first place, get over it! I can get over the fact that slavery happened..but you can't get over the fact that Jesse Jackson said "Hymie Town" back in 1984. The MEGA asshat HE is, get over it. Come up with something more recent, for the love of Pete.



New Orleans (post Katrina). Harlem, Bed' Stuy' and the NYC subway every day of the week.

That's a start.
Title: Re: Racism against blacks ?
Post by: Erica on August 24, 2007, 03:04:12 PM


KFC is NOT a bad thing. You're right on.

That just proves I CAN see the good as well as the bad.Did I mention Louis Farrakan's nation of islam and space ships comming to suck us whities up?
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So far you only have Blacksplooitation movies, Good Times and KFC. You're not looking deep enough. Its almost like you're avoiding seeing that there's more to black American culture than meets YOUR eye.
Get out of the past. Louis Farrakhan hasn't said that in YEARS. Although I think he's an asshat for saying it in the first place, get over it! I can get over the fact that slavery happened..but you can't get over the fact that Jesse Jackson said "Hymie Town" back in 1984. The MEGA asshat HE is, get over it. Come up with something more recent, for the love of Pete.



New Orleans (post Katrina). Harlem, Bed' Stuy' and the NYC subway every day of the week.

That's a start.
Nothing positive at all, huh? Well there's no hope for the world if Newman can't see that there is positivity in the black community. I don't live in NY anymore. I don't take the NYC subway, so I can't attest to what you're going through over there. But I am living in MY here and now and none of that is going on over here. If you have problems with the way people are acting on the subway and in Bedford Stuyvessant, take it up with your local government agency or offer some solutions to the problem. But dont' blame that on the entire black race.
Title: Re: Racism against blacks ?
Post by: newman on August 24, 2007, 03:07:54 PM


KFC is NOT a bad thing. You're right on.

That just proves I CAN see the good as well as the bad.Did I mention Louis Farrakan's nation of islam and space ships comming to suck us whities up?
Quote
So far you only have Blacksplooitation movies, Good Times and KFC. You're not looking deep enough. Its almost like you're avoiding seeing that there's more to black American culture than meets YOUR eye.
Get out of the past. Louis Farrakhan hasn't said that in YEARS. Although I think he's an asshat for saying it in the first place, get over it! I can get over the fact that slavery happened..but you can't get over the fact that Jesse Jackson said "Hymie Town" back in 1984. The MEGA asshat HE is, get over it. Come up with something more recent, for the love of Pete.



New Orleans (post Katrina). Harlem, Bed' Stuy' and the NYC subway every day of the week.

That's a start.
Nothing positive at all, huh? Well there's no hope for the world if Newman can't see that there is positivity in the black community. I don't live in NY anymore. I don't take the NYC subway, so I can't attest to what you're going through over there. But I am living in MY here and now and none of that is going on over here. If you have problems with the way people are acting on the subway and in Bedford Stuyvessant, take it up with your local government agency or offer some solutions to the problem. But dont' blame that on the entire black race.

What good will that do?

The NYC government is full of blacks. (who got there by affirmative action)
Title: Re: Racism against blacks ?
Post by: Erica on August 24, 2007, 03:10:32 PM


KFC is NOT a bad thing. You're right on.

That just proves I CAN see the good as well as the bad.Did I mention Louis Farrakan's nation of islam and space ships comming to suck us whities up?
Quote
So far you only have Blacksplooitation movies, Good Times and KFC. You're not looking deep enough. Its almost like you're avoiding seeing that there's more to black American culture than meets YOUR eye.
Get out of the past. Louis Farrakhan hasn't said that in YEARS. Although I think he's an asshat for saying it in the first place, get over it! I can get over the fact that slavery happened..but you can't get over the fact that Jesse Jackson said "Hymie Town" back in 1984. The MEGA asshat HE is, get over it. Come up with something more recent, for the love of Pete.



New Orleans (post Katrina). Harlem, Bed' Stuy' and the NYC subway every day of the week.

That's a start.
Nothing positive at all, huh? Well there's no hope for the world if Newman can't see that there is positivity in the black community. I don't live in NY anymore. I don't take the NYC subway, so I can't attest to what you're going through over there. But I am living in MY here and now and none of that is going on over here. If you have problems with the way people are acting on the subway and in Bedford Stuyvessant, take it up with your local government agency or offer some solutions to the problem. But dont' blame that on the entire black race.

What good will that do?

The NYC government is full of blacks. (who got there by affirmative action)

Then I guess that means that nothing can be done and you'll never be happy. Oh ,well. Afraid to ask even black politicians for help...now you're separating yourself.
Title: Re: Racism against blacks ?
Post by: Kananga on August 24, 2007, 03:17:12 PM
It's not jewish people really, it's just the way I am.  Judaism places a strong emphasis on community.  But I've always been sort of a lone wolf in the sense that I don't ask for much from people nor do I expect much from people. 

Shabbat has become one of my most favorite things in life.  On Saturday morning on the way to the synagogue I always try to walk through Rock Creek Park, taking in everything all the park is, in sort of a walking meditation.  By the time I get there I see these guys around the bimah, the chazzan is leading the davening while everyone is there seems to be engaged in the whole spirit of things.  "Yitgadal, v'Yitkadash shmay rabba.." This is when I really feel the "community".   It's only times like during kiddush lunch or around the shabbat table when the enviroment is more intimate is when feel a little disconnected.  Sometimes I feel like I have to justify why I'm there, as someone always has to ask "Why did you convert?  I would imagine you have a hard enough time being BLACK."  Sometimes I feel like saying "The only hard time I ever get is being put on the spot and being made to explain myself".  I can't help but to wonder what's going throught this person's head.



You're not supposed to be reminded that you're a convert. Once you convert you're Ben Avraham (Son of Abraham) and a part of the eternal covenant.

I really hope that you have a reasonable time frame to make aliyah and learn Hebrew. If you go to Israel believe me you will not experience this nonsense.

Of course, people will make linguistic and cultural distinctions. "Oh, that's an American, that's an Ethiopian, that's a Morrocan..." Beyond that, you'll integrate well into Israeli society.

The last Shabbos dinner I was invited to was just a week ago at the home of an older married Orthodox couple, which had to be the most warm and wonderful experience I've had on Shabbat with members of the community.   It's usually secular jews who put put me on the spot like this.   I can understand why they would be curious  since they view their judaism only through ethnicity and culture.  My conversion to them must seem like pure lunacy!  I try to pretend that I don't get annoyed by it or ever let it show on my face.

I'm still learning conversational hebrew.  I'd like to get married before I consider making aliyah, but you never know.