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Title: "Trump presidency will bring the Moshiach within weeks"
Post by: Yerusha on August 19, 2016, 07:49:40 AM
Clip of R.Mizrachi on how a Clinton victory delays the coming of Moshaich by years, whilst a Trump victory means it would come within weeks of the January inauguration!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-Cq6SFQ9aA&nohtml5=False

Other rabbis have pointed out that although Trump is an Xtian, he may be connected to the Geulah and that his name דונלד טראמפ has the gematria of 424 the same as משיח
בן דוד

This is totally against EVERYTHING that brave little Chaim has fought against might and main for the last year. Now at 60, we are concerned for Chaim.
Title: Re: "Trump presidency will bring the Moshiach"
Post by: Aces High on August 19, 2016, 10:41:34 AM
Oh please,  he's getting carried away.
Title: Re: "Trump presidency will bring the Moshiach"
Post by: Kahane-Was-Right BT on August 19, 2016, 10:45:31 AM
Clip of R.Mizrachi on how a Clinton victory delays the coming of Moshaich by years, whilst a Trump victory means it would come within weeks

This is totally against EVERYTHING that brave little Chaim has fought against might and main for the last year. Now at 60, we are concerned for Chaim.

Lol your nurses should be concerned you haven't taken your meds...
Title: Re: "Trump presidency will bring the Moshiach"
Post by: Binyamin Yisrael on August 19, 2016, 11:44:05 AM
This is totally against EVERYTHING that brave little Chaim has fought against might and main for the last year. Now at 60, we are concerned for Chaim.


Are you trying to compare him to "Little Marco", a name your idol uses?


Title: Re: "Trump presidency will bring the Moshiach"
Post by: Israel Chai on August 19, 2016, 12:42:50 PM
Watch the whole lecture so you see the context, and get back to me.
Title: Re: "Trump presidency will bring the Moshiach within weeks"
Post by: Dr. Dan on August 25, 2016, 12:23:54 PM
I was listening to the rabbi's shiur on devarim last night.  This is what he basically summed up:

We are in a time of redemption.  Gd has His plan on how it will be and it is predicted that it will be the Ishmaelites (Arabs)..muslims or not that they will get things started.  Look at all the right wing Israeli politicians..with the exception of rabbi kahane, Sharon and gush katif and bibi who were once right wing..look at lieberman.  Whether it is Trump or Hillary, Gd will have His way to bring the redemption as mentioned in the Bible.

I agree and disagree. I don't disagree with how Gd might bring about the redemption and messiah.  But who's to say that it isn't in our power to try to stop the disaster that brings redemption and do the right thing so that it comes with no disaster?  I would rather try and fail instead of hope for the disaster to bring the redemption.
Title: Re: "Trump presidency will bring the Moshiach within weeks"
Post by: Israel Chai on August 25, 2016, 05:03:32 PM
I was listening to the rabbi's shiur on devarim last night.  This is what he basically summed up:

We are in a time of redemption.  Gd has His plan on how it will be and it is predicted that it will be the Ishmaelites (Arabs)..muslims or not that they will get things started.  Look at all the right wing Israeli politicians..with the exception of rabbi kahane, Sharon and gush katif and bibi who were once right wing..look at lieberman.  Whether it is Trump or Hillary, Gd will have His way to bring the redemption as mentioned in the Bible.

I agree and disagree. I don't disagree with how Gd might bring about the redemption and messiah.  But who's to say that it isn't in our power to try to stop the disaster that brings redemption and do the right thing so that it comes with no disaster?  I would rather try and fail instead of hope for the disaster to bring the redemption.

Because if we don't do anything about it we have to watch it happen. With Torah, you get to know, and that's a blessing or a curse depending on what you do with it. G-d willing we or someone else figures out a way to save people or else G-d forbid, disaster will loom like a fly in front of your face until it strikes. Still, I read a verse in Jeremiah where Hashem says something like "Has a man ever given birth? Then why are you holding your hips and why is your face turning white [over all these apocalyptic events]? When did I give you an elevation where I didn't give you a descent first?", the first part the commentary was "why are you acting all worried", and the second part was proofs starting with Egypt. So by that it seems it's coming... I guess that's more in response to the newspapers declaring they're shocked, and G-d gets the best and the coolest lines for it, and so B"H they should be shocked at good Jews and their arrogant Torah government and shocking refusal to die.