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Title: Question how could Putin lead Russia
Post by: mord on August 15, 2008, 10:02:28 AM
Putin was in the KGB that would be like the Gestapo. Imagine if Germany was ruled by a former high ranking Gestapo man everyone would be angry and rightfully so,so my question.How can Putin high ranking KGB man :-\ :o
Title: Re: Question how could Putin lead Russia
Post by: P J C on August 15, 2008, 10:35:51 AM
Because, Germany is a democracy, unlike Russia.
Title: Re: Question how could Putin lead Russia
Post by: Rubystars on August 15, 2008, 11:08:25 AM
Russians are less intelligent.  ;D When's the last time you heard "quality Russian engineering"  ;D
Title: Re: Question how could Putin lead Russia
Post by: Americanhero1 on August 15, 2008, 11:09:36 AM
Russians are less intelligent.  ;D When's the last time you heard "quality Russian engineering"  ;D

When the Ukrainians were doing it
Title: Re: Question how could Putin lead Russia
Post by: Rubystars on August 15, 2008, 11:10:54 AM
Russians are less intelligent.  ;D When's the last time you heard "quality Russian engineering"  ;D

When the Ukrainians were doing it

Ukraine has a lot of Jewish people that were probably a lot of the brains there.
Title: Re: Question how could Putin lead Russia
Post by: Americanhero1 on August 15, 2008, 11:13:29 AM
Russians are less intelligent.  ;D When's the last time you heard "quality Russian engineering"  ;D

When the Ukrainians were doing it

Ukraine has a lot of Jewish people that were probably a lot of the brains there.

Yeah they hate Ukrainians a lot but who buil most of the things when they were the USSR the Ukies
Title: Re: Question how could Putin lead Russia
Post by: Rubystars on August 15, 2008, 11:14:39 AM
I actually respect all European nations and cultures, but I do have favorites. lol
Title: Re: Question how could Putin lead Russia
Post by: Americanhero1 on August 15, 2008, 11:17:32 AM
I actually respect all European nations and cultures, but I do have favorites. lol

Yes so do I but I don't know if I am the only one on this forum I HATE Russia I DISPISE them I hope they get what is coming to them
Title: Re: Question how could Putin lead Russia
Post by: Rubystars on August 15, 2008, 11:19:16 AM
I actually respect all European nations and cultures, but I do have favorites. lol

Yes so do I but I don't know if I am the only one on this forum I HATE Russia I DISPISE them I hope they get what is coming to them

They are our enemies.
Title: Re: Question how could Putin lead Russia
Post by: Americanhero1 on August 15, 2008, 11:21:02 AM
I actually respect all European nations and cultures, but I do have favorites. lol

Yes so do I but I don't know if I am the only one on this forum I HATE Russia I DISPISE them I hope they get what is coming to them

They are our enemies.

I HATE them for other reasons
Title: Re: Question how could Putin lead Russia
Post by: Rubystars on August 15, 2008, 11:22:51 AM
I actually respect all European nations and cultures, but I do have favorites. lol

Yes so do I but I don't know if I am the only one on this forum I HATE Russia I DISPISE them I hope they get what is coming to them

They are our enemies.

I HATE them for other reasons

Ok, why? I'm just curious. There are things about them I'm not fond of either.
Title: Re: Question how could Putin lead Russia
Post by: Americanhero1 on August 15, 2008, 11:24:05 AM
I actually respect all European nations and cultures, but I do have favorites. lol

Yes so do I but I don't know if I am the only one on this forum I HATE Russia I DISPISE them I hope they get what is coming to them

They are our enemies.

I HATE them for other reasons

Ok, why? I'm just curious. There are things about them I'm not fond of either.

I am part Ukrainian so I lost a section of my family because of stalin
Title: Re: Question how could Putin lead Russia
Post by: Rubystars on August 15, 2008, 11:26:02 AM
I actually respect all European nations and cultures, but I do have favorites. lol

Yes so do I but I don't know if I am the only one on this forum I HATE Russia I DISPISE them I hope they get what is coming to them

They are our enemies.

I HATE them for other reasons

Ok, why? I'm just curious. There are things about them I'm not fond of either.

I am part Ukrainian so I lost a section of my family because of stalin

Stalin was a true monster. If it comforts you at all, he is burning in hell. I hate Stalin as well.
Title: Re: Question how could Putin lead Russia
Post by: Americanhero1 on August 15, 2008, 11:27:27 AM
I actually respect all European nations and cultures, but I do have favorites. lol

Yes so do I but I don't know if I am the only one on this forum I HATE Russia I DISPISE them I hope they get what is coming to them

They are our enemies.

I HATE them for other reasons

Ok, why? I'm just curious. There are things about them I'm not fond of either.

I am part Ukrainian so I lost a section of my family because of stalin

Stalin was a true monster. If it comforts you at all, he is burning in hell. I hate Stalin as well.

No
Just like the Serbian members here who curse Croatia I CURSE Russia
Title: Re: Question how could Putin lead Russia
Post by: Rubystars on August 15, 2008, 11:28:24 AM
God willing your curse will stick until they change their ways.
Title: Re: Question how could Putin lead Russia
Post by: Americanhero1 on August 15, 2008, 11:34:10 AM
G-d willing your curse will stick until they change their ways.

Yes better sooner then later
Title: Re: Question how could Putin lead Russia
Post by: Rubystars on August 15, 2008, 11:37:21 AM
*sings* I'm adding, and subtracting, I'm controlling, and composing... I'm the operator with my pocket calculator

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UD9e6us6ISI&feature=related

As a science student I love this song.  O0
Title: Re: Question how could Putin lead Russia
Post by: Americanhero1 on August 15, 2008, 11:38:48 AM
*sings* I'm adding, and subtracting, I'm controlling, and composing... I'm the operator with my pocket calculator

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UD9e6us6ISI&feature=related

As a science student I love this song.  O0
(http://www.gamequarium.com/images/science.jpg)
Title: Re: Question how could Putin lead Russia
Post by: briann on August 15, 2008, 12:40:06 PM
Russians are less intelligent.  ;D When's the last time you heard "quality Russian engineering"  ;D

When the Ukrainians were doing it

hahaha
Title: Re: Question how could Putin lead Russia
Post by: Americanhero1 on August 15, 2008, 12:40:50 PM
Russians are less intelligent.  ;D When's the last time you heard "quality Russian engineering"  ;D

When the Ukrainians were doing it

hahaha

What is funny
Title: Re: Question how could Putin lead Russia
Post by: Rubystars on August 15, 2008, 01:55:50 PM
Lots of bright Ukrainian people. I knew some on some of the science message boards I was on.
Title: Re: Question how could Putin lead Russia
Post by: Zionistforever on August 17, 2008, 01:11:46 PM
I actually respect all European nations and cultures, but I do have favorites. lol

Yes so do I but I don't know if I am the only one on this forum I HATE Russia I DISPISE them I hope they get what is coming to them
what would that be american hero, what do u think is befitting of the russian devil for all the crimes against humanity have occured in that country ?
Title: Re: Question how could Putin lead Russia
Post by: Americanhero1 on August 17, 2008, 01:13:56 PM
I actually respect all European nations and cultures, but I do have favorites. lol

Yes so do I but I don't know if I am the only one on this forum I HATE Russia I DISPISE them I hope they get what is coming to them
what would that be american hero, what do u think is befitting of the russian devil for all the crimes against humanity have occured in that country ?

I cannot say
Title: Re: Question how could Putin lead Russia
Post by: Ambiorix on August 19, 2008, 05:10:28 AM
I agree NATO/USA/EU/UN are at war with Russia - and Serbia.
Personaly, I don't support the Nato's expansion on the Eurasian continent.

I understand that Ukrainian/Polish/Baltic people hate Russians for historical reasons, but if we want to survive as Europeans, we must fight together against the muslims, and the overthrow our own elites that are planning even more third world mass-imigration to EU-USA-Canada-Australia, etc,...

In Russia, in less then 30 years muslims will be a majority too.

So nowdays, I would like the Eu-USA-Russia to start working together to get rid of the muslims on our territories.

The only thng the USA and the EU are doing right now, is helping the muslims to become stronger in Europe!!
Title: Re: Question how could Putin lead Russia
Post by: DALMACIJA on August 20, 2008, 10:51:09 AM
Russians are less intelligent.  ;D When's the last time you heard "quality Russian engineering"  ;D

At least they are not as fat as the people of the USA where you come from  :)
Title: Re: Question how could Putin lead Russia
Post by: DALMACIJA on August 20, 2008, 10:55:05 AM
Russians are less intelligent.  ;D When's the last time you heard "quality Russian engineering"  ;D

When the Ukrainians were doing it

Ukraine has a lot of Jewish people that were probably a lot of the brains there.

Yeah they hate Ukrainians a lot but who buil most of the things when they were the USSR the Ukies

Real people from the Ukraine are pro Russian and Orthodox!
You have nothing in common with Ukraines.
Do not use the name Ukraine anymore, is it clear?

Please go with your Russian hate to a Croatian fascist website!
I am sure that they will appreciate your hatred against Orthodox Russian civilization! 
Title: Re: Question how could Putin lead Russia
Post by: DALMACIJA on August 20, 2008, 10:57:19 AM
I actually respect all European nations and cultures, but I do have favorites. lol

Yes so do I but I don't know if I am the only one on this forum I HATE Russia I DISPISE them I hope they get what is coming to them
what would that be american hero, what do u think is befitting of the russian devil for all the crimes against humanity have occured in that country ?

Russian crime against humanity   :::D   :::D  :::D  :::D  :::D

The extermination of the natives in Amerika, Australia and Africa was not a crime against humanity?
Title: Re: Question how could Putin lead Russia
Post by: Zionistforever on August 20, 2008, 10:12:09 PM
the persecution of jewish people by the cheka, (secret police) the deportation of jews in the 1800s, the numerous temple burnings, the ussr comited genocide of ukranians (F*** you stalin) the list goes on
Title: Re: Question how could Putin lead Russia
Post by: DALMACIJA on August 21, 2008, 05:38:52 AM
the persecution of jewish people by the cheka, (secret police) the deportation of jews in the 1800s, the numerous temple burnings, the ussr comited genocide of ukranians (F*** you stalin) the list goes on

Communists had killed more Russians than others.
Stalin, Lenin and other heads of the communist movement were not Russians.

Orthodox people (Serbs, Russians and Ukrains) suffered the most from communism.
Title: Re: Question how could Putin lead Russia
Post by: Americanhero1 on August 21, 2008, 10:36:31 AM
Russians are less intelligent.  ;D When's the last time you heard "quality Russian engineering"  ;D

When the Ukrainians were doing it

Ukraine has a lot of Jewish people that were probably a lot of the brains there.

Yeah they hate Ukrainians a lot but who buil most of the things when they were the USSR the Ukies

Real people from the Ukraine are pro Russian and Orthodox!
You have nothing in common with Ukraines.
Do not use the name Ukraine anymore, is it clear?

Please go with your Russian hate to a Croatian fascist website!
I am sure that they will appreciate your hatred against Orthodox Russian civilization! 
Ukraine Ukraine Ukraine what are you going to do
Just shut up I can Hate anyone i want I hate russia and I hate you
Title: Re: Question how could Putin lead Russia
Post by: Americanhero1 on August 21, 2008, 10:39:27 AM
Russians are less intelligent.  ;D When's the last time you heard "quality Russian engineering"  ;D

When the Ukrainians were doing it

Ukraine has a lot of Jewish people that were probably a lot of the brains there.

Yeah they hate Ukrainians a lot but who buil most of the things when they were the USSR the Ukies

Real people from the Ukraine are pro Russian and Orthodox!
You have nothing in common with Ukraines.
Do not use the name Ukraine anymore, is it clear?

Please go with your Russian hate to a Croatian fascist website!
I am sure that they will appreciate your hatred against Orthodox Russian civilization! 

What is with  you always putting the word Orthodox in a lot of your post I never said I hate the religion you Moron
Title: Re: Question how could Putin lead Russia
Post by: Zionistforever on August 21, 2008, 11:09:50 AM
Daja
i am croatian, my people have sinned, i am 100 percent jewish, the sins of our fathers do NOT  reflect upon both i and american hero, stop this mindless persecution, both of us dispise communism and  fascism as much if not more then any other jtf member
Title: Re: Question how could Putin lead Russia
Post by: DALMACIJA on August 21, 2008, 01:16:32 PM
Russians are less intelligent.  ;D When's the last time you heard "quality Russian engineering"  ;D

When the Ukrainians were doing it

Ukraine has a lot of Jewish people that were probably a lot of the brains there.

Yeah they hate Ukrainians a lot but who buil most of the things when they were the USSR the Ukies

Real people from the Ukraine are pro Russian and Orthodox!
You have nothing in common with Ukraines.
Do not use the name Ukraine anymore, is it clear?

Please go with your Russian hate to a Croatian fascist website!
I am sure that they will appreciate your hatred against Orthodox Russian civilization! 

What is with  you always putting the word Orthodox in a lot of your post I never said I hate the religion you Moron

Easy with your vocabulary little brother of my...  :)

I will tolerate this just once because I see that you have completely lost your way..
I will give you a free tip!

Russia is a Orthodox country.
If you hate Russia, the greatest Orthodox country, than you have obviously a problem with 150.000.000 Orthodox Russians!

Is it now clear.... You are such a little schoolgirl  :) :)
Title: Re: Question how could Putin lead Russia
Post by: Americanhero1 on August 21, 2008, 01:19:08 PM
Russians are less intelligent.  ;D When's the last time you heard "quality Russian engineering"  ;D

When the Ukrainians were doing it

Ukraine has a lot of Jewish people that were probably a lot of the brains there.

Yeah they hate Ukrainians a lot but who buil most of the things when they were the USSR the Ukies

Real people from the Ukraine are pro Russian and Orthodox!
You have nothing in common with Ukraines.
Do not use the name Ukraine anymore, is it clear?

Please go with your Russian hate to a Croatian fascist website!
I am sure that they will appreciate your hatred against Orthodox Russian civilization! 

What is with  you always putting the word Orthodox in a lot of your post I never said I hate the religion you Moron

Easy with your vocabulary little brother of my...  :)

I will tolerate this just once because I see that you have completely lost your way..
I will give you a free tip!

Russia is a Orthodox country.
If you hate Russia, the greatest Orthodox country, than you have obviously a problem with 150.000.000 Orthodox Russians!

Is it now clear.... You are such a little schoolgirl  :) :)

My grandfather is an Orthodox Ukrainian he had his whole family taken from him when he was young by the russian so I have a right to hate them just like you have a right to hate Croatians for what they did to Serbs
But dont say I have no right to hate them for what they did
Title: Re: Question how could Putin lead Russia
Post by: Americanhero1 on August 21, 2008, 01:20:49 PM
Oh wow this loser is calling me a Schoolgirl
Why dont you do what you have been trying to do and that is get me banned
Title: Re: Question how could Putin lead Russia
Post by: DALMACIJA on August 21, 2008, 01:22:15 PM
Daja
i am croatian, my people have sinned, i am 100 percent jewish, the sins of our fathers do NOT  reflect upon both i and american hero, stop this mindless persecution, both of us dispise communism and  fascism as much if not more then any other jtf member

A Croatian Jew  :::D   :::D  :::D  :::D enough You two are real clowns..

Croats are Catholic. If you are Jewish than you are not a Croat.
It is not the problem that you two are Croats!
Be what you want. I do not care, believe me!

I am irritated by your lack of historical knowledge and propaganda against Russia.
You want to spread propaganda against Russia or Serbia? 100 Croatian Nazis websites will sure welcome you!
Title: Re: Question how could Putin lead Russia
Post by: DALMACIJA on August 21, 2008, 01:45:19 PM
Oh wow this loser  is calling me a Schoolgirl
Why dont you do what you have been trying to do and that is get me banned

I was jost joking...

Words do not hurt my vriend!
This says more about you than about me..

You are here the most funniest person!
This site does not recognize Croatia as a sate and you, as a Croat, want to be a part of such organization?

I do not want to attack you... but is not it a little bit funny?
If a website believes that Serbia has not a right to exist. I won't ever join a club like that, because I have self respect and proud!

You can learn a lot from me...
Title: Re: Question how could Putin lead Russia
Post by: Zelhar on August 21, 2008, 02:01:56 PM
I think it is our best interest not to foster hate between Russia and Western countries. We have a common enemy in Islam and too bad that Russia has been siding with the muslim devil for so long.
Title: Re: Question how could Putin lead Russia
Post by: DALMACIJA on August 21, 2008, 02:29:37 PM
I think it is our best interest not to foster hate between Russia and Western countries. We have a common enemy in Islam and too bad that Russia has been siding with the muslim devil for so long.

America is and was siding with the muslim like nobody else.
In fact they have created the network of Bin Laden during the cold war.

America was sponsering Muslim terror over the Soviets in the 80s.
These same Muslim warriors, who fought the Russians in the 80, were launched by America in Bosnia & Hercegovina to fight, alongside with the Croatio-Muslim coallition, against the Serbs.

America reap what you have sow!
Title: Re: Question how could Putin lead Russia
Post by: Zelhar on August 21, 2008, 03:00:39 PM
I think it is our best interest not to foster hate between Russia and Western countries. We have a common enemy in Islam and too bad that Russia has been siding with the muslim devil for so long.

America is and was siding with the muslim like nobody else.
In fact they have created the network of Bin Laden during the cold war.

America was sponsering Muslim terror over the Soviets in the 80s.
These same Muslim warriors, who fought the Russians in the 80, were launched by America in Bosnia & Hercegovina to fight, alongside with the Croatio-Muslim coallition, against the Serbs.

America reap what you have sow!
Indeed America has its share of alliances with the devil. But why can't you see that the result of Russian-American clash is stronger Islam. As we say in hebrew: שניים רבים, השלישי מנצח. Two parties fight, the third wins.
Title: Re: Question how could Putin lead Russia
Post by: DALMACIJA on August 21, 2008, 03:15:03 PM
The NATO is surrounding Russia.
They have already military bases at the Balkans (Kosovo).
They are continuing with their military, politically and strategic expansion towards the East. I think that the US’s rocket/ missile system is a direct threat to Russia. Further,  is not normal that Ukraine has a huge amount of pro EU followers and it is also not normal that Georgia wants to enter in NATO, through a evil way.

There is probably some kind of anti-Russian (Orthodox) plan in operation.
Title: Re: Question how could Putin lead Russia
Post by: AsheDina on August 21, 2008, 03:21:06 PM
Russians are less intelligent.  ;D When's the last time you heard "quality Russian engineering"  ;D

When the Ukrainians were doing it

Ukraine has a lot of Jewish people that were probably a lot of the brains there.

Yeah they hate Ukrainians a lot but who buil most of the things when they were the USSR the Ukies

Real people from the Ukraine are pro Russian and Orthodox!
You have nothing in common with Ukraines.
Do not use the name Ukraine anymore, is it clear?

Please go with your Russian hate to a Croatian fascist website!
I am sure that they will appreciate your hatred against Orthodox Russian civilization! 

What is with  you always putting the word Orthodox in a lot of your post I never said I hate the religion you Moron

Easy with your vocabulary little brother of my...  :)

I will tolerate this just once because I see that you have completely lost your way..
I will give you a free tip!

Russia is a Orthodox country.
If you hate Russia, the greatest Orthodox country, than you have obviously a problem with 150.000.000 Orthodox Russians!

Is it now clear.... You are such a little schoolgirl  :) :)

  Russia is a BEAST. And you ARE hell bent on being a NOT NICE person.
Title: Re: Question how could Putin lead Russia
Post by: AsheDina on August 21, 2008, 03:23:35 PM
Daja
i am croatian, my people have sinned, i am 100 percent jewish, the sins of our fathers do NOT  reflect upon both i and american hero, stop this mindless persecution, both of us dispise communism and  fascism as much if not more then any other jtf member

A Croatian Jew  :::D   :::D  :::D  :::D enough You two are real clowns..

Croats are Catholic. If you are Jewish than you are not a Croat.
It is not the problem that you two are Croats!
Be what you want. I do not care, believe me!

I am irritated by your lack of historical knowledge and propaganda against Russia.
You want to spread propaganda against Russia or Serbia? 100 Croatian Nazis websites will sure welcome you!

  Yeah RIGHT. VANGUARD is ALL over Russia, WE KNOW what Russia IS. Vanguard being a HUGE nazi group. Nasty person you are.
Title: Re: Question how could Putin lead Russia
Post by: Ambiorix on August 21, 2008, 03:28:14 PM
Daja
i am croatian, my people have sinned, i am 100 percent jewish, the sins of our fathers do NOT  reflect upon both i and american hero, stop this mindless persecution, both of us dispise communism and  fascism as much if not more then any other jtf member

A Croatian Jew  :::D   :::D  :::D  :::D enough You two are real clowns..

Croats are Catholic. If you are Jewish than you are not a Croat.
It is not the problem that you two are Croats!
Be what you want. I do not care, believe me!

I am irritated by your lack of historical knowledge and propaganda against Russia.
You want to spread propaganda against Russia or Serbia? 100 Croatian Nazis websites will sure welcome you!

  Yeah RIGHT. VANGUARD is ALL over Russia, WE KNOW what Russia IS. Vanguard being a HUGE nazi group. Nasty person you are.
Speaking as a West-European, I think NATO should stop encircling Russia.
And regarding Kosovo, I think NATO should pull out immediately, and let the Serbs take back their country.
Title: Re: Question how could Putin lead Russia
Post by: DALMACIJA on August 21, 2008, 03:46:30 PM
Daja
i am croatian, my people have sinned, i am 100 percent jewish, the sins of our fathers do NOT  reflect upon both i and american hero, stop this mindless persecution, both of us dispise communism and  fascism as much if not more then any other jtf member

A Croatian Jew  :::D   :::D  :::D  :::D enough You two are real clowns..

Croats are Catholic. If you are Jewish than you are not a Croat.
It is not the problem that you two are Croats!
Be what you want. I do not care, believe me!

I am irritated by your lack of historical knowledge and propaganda against Russia.
You want to spread propaganda against Russia or Serbia? 100 Croatian Nazis websites will sure welcome you!

  Yeah RIGHT. VANGUARD is ALL over Russia, WE KNOW what Russia IS. Vanguard being a HUGE nazi group. Nasty person you are.
Speaking as a West-European, I think NATO should stop encircling Russia.
And regarding Kosovo, I think NATO should pull out immediately, and let the Serbs take back their country.

Ambiorix,

I wish there were more Western Europeans like you.
You are welcome in Serbia and Russia!

But why is the West attacking us the Serbs and Russians?

Ambiorix listen to me comrade!

The Russian have liberated Europe from Hitlerism and fascism.
20.000.000 Orthodox Russians died during WW2.
They are mainly responsible for the liberation of Europe and especially for the liberation of Eastern Europe.

Look how some  ungrateful rats attack Russia and are spreting anti-Russian propaganda! NATO nations should be thankfull to Russia and the Russians.
They have stoped Hitler on time.

We Serbs and Russians have protected Western Europe for centuries long against invaders from Turkey/ Asia!
Look what we have received back from our "Christian" brothers. They bombed the Serbs in 1999 and had extermination camps for the Serbs in WW1 and WW2.

First concentration camps in Europe where build in Germany, Austria and Hungary for Orthodox people, during WW1!

I think, if we want to survive, we Western Europeans and the Eastern than we must stop this new danger coming from the NATO nations. 
Title: Re: Question how could Putin lead Russia
Post by: Zionistforever on August 21, 2008, 03:57:27 PM
personal attacks against people of a certain nationality is unfair, daja i am jewish i have family in croatia, and i am an orthodox jew. i am sorry if this is hard for you to understand, but harrasing other members who only wish to help is only setting jtf back, why waste your time and effort on this rather then aid jtf against obama, and islam. whats in the past is in the past, i dont care if u wish death to croatia, the things that have occured are dispicable and horrendous, but this is the year 2008. we have bigger things to worry about then the past nazis, such as the present and future nazis. we must be productive on this forum, not hateful to participating members
Title: Re: Question how could Putin lead Russia
Post by: Rubystars on August 21, 2008, 04:03:38 PM
Russians are less intelligent.  ;D When's the last time you heard "quality Russian engineering"  ;D

At least they are not as fat as the people of the USA where you come from  :)

Aren't you just a lovely little personality.

Quote from: DALMACIJA
You have nothing in common with Ukraines.
Do not use the name Ukraine anymore, is it clear?

AmericanHero is part Ukrainian. He has every right to speak about Ukraine. Any of us do, whether we're part that or not. We all have the right to give our opinion on any country. Disagree with him but don't tell other members what they can and cannot speak about. I don't see "Administrator" under your name Dal.

Quote from: DALMACIJA
Easy with your vocabulary little brother of my... 

You always try to bait AH, I'm surprised he hasn't called you worse than a moron by now. Of course it's not good to call anyone a name on here but you bait him and bait him. AH is a good member and supports JTF's causes. Please kindly get off his back.

Quote
I will tolerate this just once because I see that you have completely lost your way..
I will give you a free tip!

I'm losing my tolerance with you Dal.

AH it would be best for you to ignore Dal and not call him anymore names.

Dal you need to stop this nonsense. I'm frankly getting tired of seeing you baiting AH.
Title: Re: Question how could Putin lead Russia
Post by: DALMACIJA on August 21, 2008, 04:08:04 PM
@@@@Zionistforever

So we the Serbs must forgot the Croatian/ Vatican crimes which took place in WW1, WW2 and in the 90s? What do you think we Serbs are Indians? You can not colonize Serbian lands that easy. Croatia was and is a Nazi state. You must accept the facts not me! Croatia is occupying Serbian lands and had committed genocide against the Serbs!

The Chairman of this movement, Chiam, says the genocidal people like the Croats do not even deserve to have their own state. So that means that I am here on the right place!
I agree with you Chairman. I would only give Zagreb to the Croats the rest belongs to Serbia.
Title: Re: Question how could Putin lead Russia
Post by: DALMACIJA on August 21, 2008, 04:09:22 PM
Russians are less intelligent.  ;D When's the last time you heard "quality Russian engineering"  ;D

At least they are not as fat as the people of the USA where you come from  :)

Aren't you just a lovely little personality.

Quote from: DALMACIJA
You have nothing in common with Ukraines.
Do not use the name Ukraine anymore, is it clear?

AmericanHero is part Ukrainian. He has every right to speak about Ukraine. Any of us do, whether we're part that or not. We all have the right to give our opinion on any country. Disagree with him but don't tell other members what they can and cannot speak about. I don't see "Administrator" under your name Dal.

Quote from: DALMACIJA
Easy with your vocabulary little brother of my... 

You always try to bait AH, I'm surprised he hasn't called you worse than a moron by now. Of course it's not good to call anyone a name on here but you bait him and bait him. AH is a good member and supports JTF's causes. Please kindly get off his back.

Quote
I will tolerate this just once because I see that you have completely lost your way..
I will give you a free tip!

I'm losing my tolerance with you Dal.

AH it would be best for you to ignore Dal and not call him anymore names.

Dal you need to stop this nonsense. I'm frankly getting tired of seeing you baiting AH.



You are not ready for politics!

Go back to your kitchen please, your husband is calling you !

(just joking)
Title: Re: Question how could Putin lead Russia
Post by: Rubystars on August 21, 2008, 04:29:24 PM
You are not ready for politics!
Go back to your kitchen please, your husband is calling you !

(just joking)


Is that funny haha or funny hoho?

Anyway... this is what I mean by baiting. You do this kind of thing constantly.
Title: Re: Question how could Putin lead Russia
Post by: Ambiorix on August 21, 2008, 04:53:10 PM
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Russians are less intelligent.   When's the last time you heard "quality Russian engineering"

How much Soyuz rockets had to fly to the international space station when the space shuttle fleet was grounded?

Russian/Soviet military engineering has sometimes proven to be quite superior to American counterparts.

I think the capitalist economy model is better than the communist, and I am sure most Russians are very glad that the Soviet Union (=dictatorship) collapsed.

It is true the people of the former KGB took power in the liberalised Russia, and that these FSB (ex-KGB) people are the real oligarchs of Russia today.

Future will tell us which country survives the 21th century better, USA or Russia...
Title: Re: Question how could Putin lead Russia
Post by: Rubystars on August 21, 2008, 05:34:38 PM
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Russians are less intelligent.   When's the last time you heard "quality Russian engineering"

How much Soyuz rockets had to fly to the international space station when the space shuttle fleet was grounded?

Russian/Soviet military engineering has sometimes proven to be quite superior to American counterparts.

I think the capitalist economy model is better than the communist, and I am sure most Russians are very glad that the Soviet Union (=dictatorship) collapsed.

It is true the people of the former KGB took power in the liberalised Russia, and that these FSB (ex-KGB) people are the real oligarchs of Russia today.

Future will tell us which country survives the 21th century better, USA or Russia...

I said later I respect all European groups. Soviet military has always been top notch. You're correct about that. Right now the Russians are at odds with our interests and must be considered enemies for that reason, but that doesn't mean I don't respect them as a people.
Title: Re: Question how could Putin lead Russia
Post by: Ambiorix on August 21, 2008, 06:12:08 PM
Right now the Russians are at odds with our interests and must be considered enemies for that reason, but that doesn't mean I don't respect them as a people.
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What do you mean exactly?
Title: Re: Question how could Putin lead Russia
Post by: Rubystars on August 21, 2008, 06:38:14 PM
What do you mean exactly?

I believe every ethnicity in Europe has value as a unique entity and should be preserved. It's part of my belief in white pride. Russians are no exception to that. However the Russian government is very evil right now and has been the enemy of the U.S.A. for a long time.

I know they're an enemy of Israel and that greatly disturbs me too. Chaim suffered greatly and heroicly to free the Jews under their oppression.



Title: Re: Question how could Putin lead Russia
Post by: Zionistforever on August 21, 2008, 08:37:05 PM
the Russian devil and the us are always going to be enemies, no matter how many peace talks, or negotiations, russia is americas eastern brother (backwards deffinitly) but in a way they are equals, (not moraly of course) they have a great army and so does the us, and both countries have policed the world for some time....
Title: Re: Question how could Putin lead Russia
Post by: t_h_j on August 21, 2008, 10:28:55 PM
I actually respect all European nations and cultures, but I do have favorites. lol

Yes so do I but I don't know if I am the only one on this forum I HATE Russia I DISPISE them I hope they get what is coming to them

They are our enemies.

I HATE them for other reasons

Ok, why? I'm just curious. There are things about them I'm not fond of either.

I am part Ukrainian so I lost a section of my family because of stalin

stalin wasn't russian.
Title: Re: Question how could Putin lead Russia
Post by: t_h_j on August 21, 2008, 10:32:59 PM
btw, for all the Ukrainians here, yuschenko is also ex kgb :)
Title: Re: Question how could Putin lead Russia
Post by: Ambiorix on August 22, 2008, 04:41:00 AM
What do you mean exactly?

I believe every ethnicity in Europe has value as a unique entity and should be preserved. It's part of my belief in white pride. Russians are no exception to that. However the Russian government is very evil right now and has been the enemy of the U.S.A. for a long time.

I know they're an enemy of Israel and that greatly disturbs me too. Chaim suffered greatly and heroicly to free the Jews under their oppression.


Why do you think the Russian government is an enemy of the USA? What do you mean with "the Russian government is very evil right now"?

Do you think Yeltsin was better than Putin, or Medvedev ?

Do you think the USA is a friend of Israel? I don't think so... USA sells weapons to the Arabs as much as the Russians, and buys their oil. Wasn't the Bush family big friends with the Bin Ladens?
Title: Re: Question how could Putin lead Russia
Post by: DALMACIJA on August 22, 2008, 05:39:48 AM
What do you mean exactly?

I believe every ethnicity in Europe has value as a unique entity and should be preserved. It's part of my belief in white pride. Russians are no exception to that. However the Russian government is very evil right now and has been the enemy of the U.S.A. for a long time.

I know they're an enemy of Israel and that greatly disturbs me too. Chaim suffered greatly and heroicly to free the Jews under their oppression.


Why do you think the Russian government is an enemy of the USA? What do you mean with "the Russian government is very evil right now"?

Do you think Yeltsin was better than Putin, or Medvedev ?

Do you think the USA is a friend of Israel? I don't think so... USA sells weapons to the Arabs as much as the Russians, and buys their oil. Wasn't the Bush family big friends with the Bin Ladens?


It was the USA who had trained and supplied weapons to Muslims in the 80s in order to prepare them to fight Orthodox Russians. These same Muslims fighters were transferred by the US/ EU in Bosnia & Hercegovina to join the Croatian-Muslim war against the Orthodox Serbs of Yugoslavia.

From the other side, you had also some cossack (Russian Orthodox) soldiers, in Bosnia and Hercegovina, who volunteered in the Serbian army.

I do not see you attacking America for supporting these Jihad fighters?
Or are these fighters considered as you allies when they attack and kill Orthodox Russians/ Serbs? If Muslims kill and murder Serbs and Russians than they are considered, by the West, as good people and victims. In case they are anti-American than you have a different opinion about them. It is a fact that the Network of Bin Laden was in 80s and in the 90s supported by the West.


The Americans are supporting Serbian enemies and they occupy our lands.

Something about Russia.
Russia is not the enemy of the USA, but the US will have a strong enemy if they continue to surround Russia. Russia is not surrounding the US or Europe, it are the NATO nations who are provoking Russia by launching rockets and missiles 200 kilometers from Russia’s borders and supporting criminal regimes in Orthodox  countries like Serbia, Ukraine and  Georgia.

You, Americans, have no reason to call Russia evil.
They liberated you and Europe from Nazism in 1945.
You should have monuments for Russia in your countries!   
Title: Re: Question how could Putin lead Russia
Post by: Rubystars on August 22, 2008, 08:14:49 AM
What do you mean exactly?

I believe every ethnicity in Europe has value as a unique entity and should be preserved. It's part of my belief in white pride. Russians are no exception to that. However the Russian government is very evil right now and has been the enemy of the U.S.A. for a long time.

I know they're an enemy of Israel and that greatly disturbs me too. Chaim suffered greatly and heroicly to free the Jews under their oppression.


Why do you think the Russian government is an enemy of the USA? What do you mean with "the Russian government is very evil right now"?

Do you think Yeltsin was better than Putin, or Medvedev ?

Do you think the USA is a friend of Israel? I don't think so... USA sells weapons to the Arabs as much as the Russians, and buys their oil. Wasn't the Bush family big friends with the Bin Ladens?

I don't think the USA's government has been the best friend of Israel either, but I believe Russia would want to wipe Israel off the map just as Iran does.
Title: Re: Question how could Putin lead Russia
Post by: Ambiorix on August 22, 2008, 08:23:19 AM
What do you mean exactly?

I believe every ethnicity in Europe has value as a unique entity and should be preserved. It's part of my belief in white pride. Russians are no exception to that. However the Russian government is very evil right now and has been the enemy of the U.S.A. for a long time.

I know they're an enemy of Israel and that greatly disturbs me too. Chaim suffered greatly and heroicly to free the Jews under their oppression.


Why do you think the Russian government is an enemy of the USA? What do you mean with "the Russian government is very evil right now"?

Do you think Yeltsin was better than Putin, or Medvedev ?

Do you think the USA is a friend of Israel? I don't think so... USA sells weapons to the Arabs as much as the Russians, and buys their oil. Wasn't the Bush family big friends with the Bin Ladens?

I don't think the USA's government has been the best friend of Israel either, but I believe Russia would want to wipe Israel off the map just as Iran does.
Why would Russia whipe Israel off the map? Because they are "anti-semites".
It's just a geo-political game between the USA and Russia.
BTW; why should I support the USA? They sell weapons to Saudi Arabia, and in my book, Saudi Arabia is a bigger enemy than Iran.
Title: Re: Question how could Putin lead Russia
Post by: Rubystars on August 22, 2008, 08:28:17 AM
Dal I'm just curious, why do you think communists were heroic? Both Stalin and Hitler were evil.

Also Russia is close with Iran and China right now, two big problems.

Ambiorix, I won't tell you to support the USA because the USA government is doing some evil things, but what I will tell you is that you shouldn't wish for the destruction of the USA because it's one of the strongest non-Muslim countries and our population is mostly hostile to Muslims and Islam. Barack Hussein Obama is only doing well because people think the tales of his being a Muslim are a lie and exaggeration and smear. If people really thought he was a Muslim he would have 0 chance.

Title: Re: Question how could Putin lead Russia
Post by: Ambiorix on August 22, 2008, 08:35:21 AM
Dal I'm just curious, why do you think communists were heroic? Both Stalin and Hitler were evil.

Also Russia is close with Iran and China right now, two big problems.

Ambiorix, I won't tell you to support the USA because the USA government is doing some evil things, but what I will tell you is that you shouldn't wish for the destruction of the USA because it's one of the strongest non-Muslim countries and our population is mostly hostile to Muslims and Islam. Barack Hussein Obama is only doing well because people think the tales of his being a Muslim are a lie and exaggeration and smear. If people really thought he was a Muslim he would have 0 chance.


The USA is sold out. I'm sure they will make a north-American union of it , as they did with Europe...

Indeed, we should take care of Iran. But also we should take out a lot of other muslim countries.
Title: Re: Question how could Putin lead Russia
Post by: DALMACIJA on August 22, 2008, 08:54:32 AM
Dal I'm just curious, why do you think communists were heroic? Both Stalin and Hitler were evil.

Also Russia is close with Iran and China right now, two big problems.

Ambiorix, I won't tell you to support the USA because the USA government is doing some evil things, but what I will tell you is that you shouldn't wish for the destruction of the USA because it's one of the strongest non-Muslim countries and our population is mostly hostile to Muslims and Islam. Barack Hussein Obama is only doing well because people think the tales of his being a Muslim are a lie and exaggeration and smear. If people really thought he was a Muslim he would have 0 chance.

Stalin was of course evil.
Stalin's regime does not represent Orthodox Russia. The heads of the communits criminal government were not Orthodox Russians.
During the communist rule in Russia and Serbia, Orthodoxism was prosecuted.
The communist conducted the most crimes against the domestic nations of Russia and Serbia.

About 55 till 60 milion Russians were killed between 1917 and 1989.
An Orthodox Russian/ Serb can not support such leaders like Stalin.
Title: Re: Question how could Putin lead Russia
Post by: Rubystars on August 22, 2008, 09:30:49 AM
The USA is sold out. I'm sure they will make a north-American union of it , as they did with Europe...

Indeed, we should take care of Iran. But also we should take out a lot of other muslim countries.

This is one reason I'm at JTF. I strongly oppose an NAU (it will destroy the USA and Canada, two first world countries, and in effect expand Mexico, which is a third world nation). Most people here wouldn't like it either but they've been convinced it's just a wild conspiracy theory and they don't think it's real. In the mean time, evil politicians and multinational corporations are working hard to make it reality and uncontrolled immigration is forcing it regardless of the legal borders.


Stalin was of course evil.
Stalin's regime does not represent Orthodox Russia. The heads of the communits criminal government were not Orthodox Russians.
During the communist rule in Russia and Serbia, Orthodoxism was prosecuted.
The communist conducted the most crimes against the domestic nations of Russia and Serbia.

I think it's important to try to draw distinctions between evil leadership and the people like you have. That's good. However Russia is still no friend to Christians, I would almost guarantee that. I still don't believe it's shaken off its communist past.

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About 55 till 60 milion Russians were killed between 1917 and 1989.
An Orthodox Russian/ Serb can not support such leaders like Stalin.

And you wonder why I think they're bad?
Title: Re: Question how could Putin lead Russia
Post by: DALMACIJA on August 22, 2008, 09:41:38 AM
like you have. That's good. However Russia is still no friend to Christians,

And you know who real christians are?

You know nothing about Christians. Absolutly nothing.
Title: Re: Question how could Putin lead Russia
Post by: Rubystars on August 22, 2008, 09:42:51 AM
like you have. That's good. However Russia is still no friend to Christians,

And you know who real christians are?

You know nothing about Christians. Absolutly nothing.

Do you think the only real Christians are the Orthodox? Where does that leave our wonderful Catholic and Protestant JTFers? I don't think the Orthodox should trust Russia's government either, which was my point.
Title: Re: Question how could Putin lead Russia
Post by: Scriabin on August 22, 2008, 09:44:05 AM
How can Putin high ranking KGB man :-\ :o

Is that a question?
Title: Re: Question how could Putin lead Russia
Post by: Ambiorix on August 22, 2008, 09:55:30 AM
like you have. That's good. However Russia is still no friend to Christians,

And you know who real christians are?

You know nothing about Christians. Absolutly nothing.

Do you think the only real Christians are the Orthodox? Where does that leave our wonderful Catholic and Protestant JTFers? I don't think the Orthodox should trust Russia's government either, which was my point.

I think under Poetin the Russian Orthodox Church regained the power it had like under the Tsars.
So it is a good thing.
Title: Re: Question how could Putin lead Russia
Post by: Ambiorix on August 22, 2008, 09:57:20 AM
How can Putin high ranking KGB man :-\ :o

Is that a question?

The KGB people were the only ones from the Soviet union that had easy access to the West. They saw the Soviet system was going to collapse, because it didn't work.
So they orchestrated this collapse, and in the chaos that evolved, they took advantage to enrich themselves, as did the maffia.
Title: Re: Question how could Putin lead Russia
Post by: DALMACIJA on August 24, 2008, 06:40:41 AM
like you have. That's good. However Russia is still no friend to Christians,

And you know who real christians are?

You know nothing about Christians. Absolutly nothing.

Do you think the only real Christians are the Orthodox? Where does that leave our wonderful Catholic and Protestant JTFers? I don't think the Orthodox should trust Russia's government either, which was my point.

I think under Poetin the Russian Orthodox Church regained the power it had like under the Tsars.
So it is a good thing.


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Title: Re: Question how could Putin lead Russia
Post by: Ambiorix on August 24, 2008, 07:29:22 AM
like you have. That's good. However Russia is still no friend to Christians,

And you know who real christians are?

You know nothing about Christians. Absolutly nothing.

Do you think the only real Christians are the Orthodox? Where does that leave our wonderful Catholic and Protestant JTFers? I don't think the Orthodox should trust Russia's government either, which was my point.

I think under Poetin the Russian Orthodox Church regained the power it had like under the Tsars.
So it is a good thing.


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Let's hope that our Kahanist friends in Israel can do the same!