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Title: What Do You Think Of Marrying Outside Your Ethnic Group?
Post by: NoahideGentile on April 13, 2007, 08:26:30 PM
Should individual gentile races stay pure? Should Caucasoids only date Caucasoids and same with Mongoloids, and Negroids?
And most of all, should Europeans or people of Euro descent (like persians, americans, etc..) only date other Europeans? I truly believe so.
Title: Re: Should Gentile races stay pure?
Post by: NoahideGentile on April 13, 2007, 08:27:45 PM
I have another question. I am of mostly German descent, should I breed?
Title: Re: Should Gentile races stay pure?
Post by: Maccabi on April 13, 2007, 09:15:14 PM
no, you should not breed under any circumstances.
Title: Re: Should Gentile races stay pure?
Post by: NoahideGentile on April 13, 2007, 09:15:42 PM
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no, you should not breed under any circumstances.

Because I am a gentile Noahide?
Title: Re: Should Gentile races stay pure?
Post by: Maccabi on April 13, 2007, 09:21:27 PM
no. just because I said so.
Title: Re: Should Gentile races stay pure?
Post by: NoahideGentile on April 13, 2007, 09:24:32 PM
Well now I reported you to a mod. I just checked your introduction post (i replied to it earlier btw) and you go and on about how blacks are good people. Its lies. The blacks in america love Islam and the christian ones hate all non-blacks.

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no. just because I said so.

Title: Re: Should Gentile races stay pure?
Post by: MassuhDGoodName on April 14, 2007, 01:16:51 AM
Re:  "...I am of mostly German descent, should I breed?..."

The time to ask, is when you're ready to ask it this way...

"Should we breed?"

And the answer is YES.

You too deserve a telephone call at 3:30am from your teenage son, slurring these words "Heey, Dad!...I wrecked your car really bad...and I'm in jail...come get me...now!"
Title: Re: Should Gentile races stay pure?
Post by: Sarah on April 14, 2007, 05:13:14 AM
When it comes to love and relationships. There can be no control or limits. When a person loves someone from another race, they will consider it their rights and choice. You can't exactly create 100ft Iron casted gates to seperate different races and even if you did, when people are limited by rules. They like to rebel purposefully. More harm would come then good.

At this point in the world, there is hardly anybody thats 100% pure. I would reckon its too late now.

You may be of German descent, but noahidegentile you are still human?
And breed if you so wish to!

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no, you should not breed under any circumstances.

 :D
Title: Re: Should Gentile races stay pure?
Post by: NoahideGentile on April 14, 2007, 09:01:59 AM
All humans are NOT equal, YOU ARE LISTENING TO TOO MUCH LIBERAL PROPAGANDA. read my other post in this forum, about the jews being the master race.
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Sarah, how about you go to Al Sharpton's forum and beign posting there about the blacks being superior above all else. hell, you can take Mack-Satanist-B with you. But as for us, we will stay on JTF and fight the descendents of Ham and we shall win!

However, you two seem to want to get on your knees whenever you are in a dark room and see floating teeth and eyes around. You are a disgrace to this website, I should say.
Title: Re: Should Gentile races stay pure?
Post by: Nic Brookes on April 14, 2007, 04:02:09 PM
You are a disgrace to this website, I should say.

Says the person who will give JTF a bad name by not encouraging people to sympathise with our views, but instead proclaiming them. We WILL get classed as racists and extremists with that attitude.
Title: Re: Should Gentile races stay pure?
Post by: NoahideGentile on April 14, 2007, 04:23:11 PM
You are a disgrace to this website, I should say.

Says the person who will give JTF a bad name by not encouraging people to sympathise with our views, but instead proclaiming them. We WILL get classed as racists and extremists with that attitude.

Haha that is laughable. Get out of here troll. If you are looking for a peace "everybody is equal" messager board then you can go to MUSLImsRus.com/forum and leave us alone. You can take ex-islamist-fasicst Sarah with you, may be you two can even hook up.
Title: Re: Should Gentile races stay pure?
Post by: Nic Brookes on April 14, 2007, 06:48:05 PM
You are a disgrace to this website, I should say.

Says the person who will give JTF a bad name by not encouraging people to sympathise with our views, but instead proclaiming them. We WILL get classed as racists and extremists with that attitude.

Haha that is laughable. Get out of here troll. If you are looking for a peace "everybody is equal" messager board then you can go to MUSLImsRus.com/forum and leave us alone. You can take ex-islamist-fasicst Sarah with you, may be you two can even hook up.

Muslims don't believe everybody is equal... they want to kill people. JTF is a movement that could benefit with more members, which will only happen if we get a good reputation. Posters like you, sir, are not going to attract anyone. Did you mention that you are 16? You are clearly uneducated as you cannot see what this forum stands for.
Title: Re: Should Gentile races stay pure?
Post by: Fruit of thy loins on April 14, 2007, 07:25:50 PM
When it comes to love and relationships. There can be no control or limits. When a person loves someone from another race, they will consider it their rights and choice. You can't exactly create 100ft Iron casted gates to seperate different races and even if you did, when people are limited by rules. They like to rebel purposefully. More harm would come then good.

At this point in the world, there is hardly anybody thats 100% pure. I would reckon its too late now.

You may be of German descent, but noahidegentile you are still human?
And breed if you so wish to!

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no, you should not breed under any circumstances.

 :D



The way white girls fetishize negroes is racist.  I don't care if you think that's individual choice.  British law does not hold individual choice up on a pedestal as a supreme virtue.  People are forced to do certain things against their wishes, we do not live in  a free society.  And the fact is that racial discrimination carries a maximum seven year jail penalty in the UK.  We need to start prosecuting the racists of all descriptions.

Title: Re: Should Gentile races stay pure?
Post by: Nic Brookes on April 14, 2007, 07:33:46 PM
When it comes to love and relationships. There can be no control or limits. When a person loves someone from another race, they will consider it their rights and choice. You can't exactly create 100ft Iron casted gates to seperate different races and even if you did, when people are limited by rules. They like to rebel purposefully. More harm would come then good.

At this point in the world, there is hardly anybody thats 100% pure. I would reckon its too late now.

You may be of German descent, but noahidegentile you are still human?
And breed if you so wish to!

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no, you should not breed under any circumstances.

 :D



The way white girls fetishize negroes is racist.  I don't care if you think that's individual choice.  British law does not hold individual choice up on a pedestal as a supreme virtue.  People are forced to do certain things against their wishes, we do not live in  a free society.  And the fact is that racial discrimination carries a maximum seven year jail penalty in the UK.  We need to start prosecuting the racists of all descriptions.



So you believe the law should be no racial intermixing... This would make a lot of sense to be honest.
Title: Re: Should Gentile races stay pure?
Post by: Fruit of thy loins on April 14, 2007, 08:18:17 PM
So you believe the law should be no racial intermixing... This would make a lot of sense to be honest.



I don't want any laws relating to race whatsoever.  In my personal opinion you give jobs to, sell your house to, and have a sexy time with anyone you like.  If you don't want [censored] in your neighbourhood that's fine.

But so long as we have these ridiculous laws then they should be applied across the board and not selectively or as a weapon against white-skinned males.  Affirmative action or anything resembling it is an abomination to the Alm-ghty.
Title: Re: Should Gentile races stay pure?
Post by: sat_chit_anand on April 15, 2007, 07:44:38 AM
I agree that we should not have race laws forbidding intermarriage.

I am against intermarriage because it is indicative of deculturalising negative trends in in society, not because of the racial mixing itself.

For 'deculturalising negative trends', read 'social Marxism', 'moral relativism' etc.

To make the issue firstly a matter of race would be to make the same mistake as the Nazis.

The ideal is to create a values-based society.

Morals and ethics should always be more important than race.

Scientific racialism has its place, as it can be used to help humanity, but to reify race is a form of idolatry.
Title: Re: Should Gentile races stay pure?
Post by: Fruit of thy loins on April 15, 2007, 11:10:26 AM
As long as two Gentiles are righteous, there is no problem with them marrying each other, regardless of race or nationality.


True.

I always feel sad when I see a white mother pushing a little mutant baby around in a pram or when I see white girls laughing and trying to impress rather ugly groups of black boys.  They are hardly righteous.  I'd say they are more like forsaken.  They are similar to those unfortunate white men who go off to places like Vietnam or Thailand to live and have sex with the local women, except that they don't even have the ability or intelligence to travel to another country.  They pick up the dreck that immigrates to their own country.  It is tragic but also profoundly evil.  There are some white women of good social standing who have come to see the negro as a mighty sexual deity, and they worship at his feet, and throw their shapely bosoms and legs and long beautiful hair at their black beloved - and they will soon have supremacy even over the angels.
Title: Re: Should Gentile races stay pure?
Post by: NoahideGentile on April 15, 2007, 11:58:09 AM
Well I never knew hitler was a pagan (ROFL, where do you people get this information) and as you can see, all my post before today were of satrical humor. I was mocking the Noahide sheep on here, and the jewish members that scream "YOU ARE A NAZI" when ever there is a disagreement about something (see berbers thread).

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You've already revealed yourself to be a pagan

So? YOu have to swear alleigance to "Hashem" in order to  post here?
Title: Re: Should Gentile races stay pure?
Post by: MarZutra on April 15, 2007, 12:02:55 PM
Well I never knew hitler was a pagan (ROFL, where do you people get this information) and as you can see, all my post before today were of satrical humor. I was mocking the Noahide sheep on here, and the jewish members that scream "YOU ARE A NAZI" when ever there is a disagreement about something (see berbers thread).

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You've already revealed yourself to be a pagan

So? YOu have to swear alleigance to "Hashem" in order to  post here?
Dude, I think you might do well on some sites for reality television.  It seems that anything above the intellectual capacity of a 16 year old is well over your head....  Please do us a favor and take your paganism, racialism and ignorance with you when you leave...
Title: Re: Should Gentile races stay pure?
Post by: NoahideGentile on April 15, 2007, 12:06:46 PM
I'm 15

 I demand a full apology from Jsullivan or else my names will keep coming on this board through my milllions of proxys. Report me to my ISP AOL, see if they care (hint: they won't).

I offer you friendship, you insult my religion and ban me for "nazism". As you have banned Din Rodef and Others.
Title: Re: Should Gentile races stay pure?
Post by: MarZutra on April 15, 2007, 12:09:51 PM
I'm 15

and my name is truthtyper. I demand a full apology from Jsullivan or else my names will keep coming on this board through my milllions of proxys. Report me to my ISP AOL, see if they care (hint: they won't).

I offer you friendship, you insult my religion and ban me for "nazism".
15 or 16 which is it?  In any event the ignorance of a 15 or 16 year old shows.  You have much time to learn fact from fantasy and lead a moral life.  I suggest you open your mind and learn....  Come back in a few years and perhaps your views might become more factually correct and not out of the toilet of immature catering to the ideologies of subhuman offal. 
Title: Re: Should Gentile races stay pure?
Post by: NoahideGentile on April 15, 2007, 12:13:30 PM
I'm not a servant of juden, so I won't ever be a Noahide.
Title: Re: Should Gentile races stay pure?
Post by: MarZutra on April 15, 2007, 12:17:36 PM
No you are just a mislead childish little [censored] that needs a good spanking...  Go back to your playroom where you belong with all the other children...please do us the favor...
Title: Re: Should Gentile races stay pure?
Post by: sat_chit_anand on April 15, 2007, 01:53:40 PM
Is it not possible that a pagan population could be favourable towards Jewish people?

Hindus, who worship many deites, are not unkind to Jewish people. The Hindu nationalists are quite supportive of Israel.

Perhaps the main difference within Hinduism is that there is, within the religion, a great deal of emphasis placed upon the soul.

I have an associate (Austrian nationalist) who is deeply engrossed in Germanic Paganism/Odinism. It does not help him. The missing element in a lot of the world religions is the knowledge of the soul and life science, and the same is true of this sort of cultish Odinist neo-pagan revival which is somehow attached to European nationalism.

I do not think that our paganism can ever be extinguished. It expresses itself through our armorial imagery, the various Christian festivals, architecture, music, arts...

For many Christians, identification with the soul, as opposed to the body, come secondary to morality and ethics, even though complete knowledge of the soul would naturally and effortlessly inform the latter.

The neo-pagan/Odinist revival in Europe, which has been rising to the surface for sometime, rarely teaches knowledge of the soul. They teach that the soul is connected to the bloodline. I do not agree with this.

Meditation and prayer help us to be close to G-d, but how many European pagan teachers teach meditation and prayer? They generally teach only idolatry which, although respected in pagan traditions like Hinduism, is always considered to be the lowest form of worship, which those with lesser souls will be naturally more attracted to.

You can read this in the Bhagavad Gita. Those who are high-born will meditate upon the soul, those who are low-born will worship idols, demon gods, animals...

Both can be respected, but there has to be an understanding of the natural order, life science and this comes from knowing G-d.

If there is to be a pagan revival in Europe then it must be positivist, not anti-Christian, and it must embrace a mysticism which is independent of the physical.

At the moment, most European pagans are limited by body consciousness. So are many Christians and most people. They think that the physical world is all there is, medicine and science and technology are reified to the exclusion of spirituality. All which stands between them and total oblivion is a set of rules and restrictions which are, in any case, rarely kept.

European pagans/heathens hope to revive and unlock the old folk knowledge of medicinal plants, sacred sites and the seasons, but there are very few mystics who are able to inform them, and activate, expand and develop the knowledge. How are they going to progress without building a foundation of peace and love for G-d?

Encouraging spirituality should be the first priority for a people wanting to rebuild a society, perhaps Zionism's relative success has been that there have been, despite all the difficulties, a body of individuals who have carefully worked behind the scenes and have maintained a deep connection with G-d. In fact, logically, this is the only explanation.

Without this basic foundation, any movement will be a failure, if not in the short-term, then in the long term. European nationalists must, to this end, exclude the secularists, and their close cousins, the pagans who are anti-Christian, hate G-d, hate Jewish people and seek to restrict worship to the mere physical.

Nothing could be more obvious.

The European pagans are not nearly spiritual enough.

Nazis pagans are like Marxists and their paganism is of the type which wants to refute G-d and replace him with human idols, and this is so limited, so stupid and so ARROGANT and will ALWAYS FAIL!
Title: Re: Should Gentile races stay pure?
Post by: MarZutra on April 15, 2007, 01:58:18 PM
Very good Bagels and Sat..  Fabulous posts and good work brothers...  Keep up the good posting.
Title: Re: Should Gentile races stay pure?
Post by: sat_chit_anand on April 15, 2007, 02:12:41 PM
I might add that spirituality alone secures the 'purity' of a race, and its confluence with nature.

Title: Re: Should Gentile races stay pure?
Post by: Hail Columbia on April 15, 2007, 02:34:18 PM
We are the joyous Hitler youth,
We do not need any Christian virtue
Our leader is our savior
The Pope and Rabbi shall be gone
We want to be pagans once again."

- Song sung by Hitler youth

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"The heaviest blow which ever struck humanity was Christianity; Bolshevism is Christianity's illegitimate child.  Both are inventions of the Jew."

- Norman Cameron and R.H. Stevens, trans., (Oxford, 1953), Hitler's Table-Talk, p. 7

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"The law of selection justifies this incessant struggle, by allowing the survival of the fittest.  Christianity is a rebellion against natural law, a protest against nature.  Taken to its logical extreme, Christianity would mean the systematic cultivation of the human failure."

- Norman Cameron and R.H. Stevens, trans., (Oxford, 1953), Hitler's Table-Talk, p. 51

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Despite all of that, there will always be extreme-left schmucks who will always claim that Hitler was a good Christian, and so on, evidence be damned.
Title: Re: Should Gentile races stay pure?
Post by: Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks on April 21, 2007, 02:25:08 AM
Affirmative action or anything resembling it is an abomination to the Alm-ghty.
I agree with you 100%.
Title: Re: Should Gentile races stay pure?
Post by: Mstislav on July 07, 2007, 02:27:16 PM
As long as two Gentiles are righteous, there is no problem with them marrying each other, regardless of race or nationality. But Jews must marry other Jews, again with no regard to race. Even though interracial marriage is not forbidden, I think it's un-natural to be sexually attracted to people of other races. But it is normal for European Caucasians to be attracted to Non-European Caucasians. Jews are Asian Caucasians. I find European, North African, and Asian Caucasian women to be attractive. But I don't marry any that are not Jewish because of the religion, not because of race.



Why do you think it is unnatural to be attracted to someone of another race?
Title: Re: Should Gentile races stay pure?
Post by: EagleEye on July 07, 2007, 02:33:25 PM
The child will grow up with identity issues.  Its bad to mix people who are so genetically different from each other.
Title: Re: Should Gentile races stay pure?
Post by: Mstislav on July 07, 2007, 02:54:03 PM
The child will grow up with identity issues.  Its bad to mix people who are so genetically different from each other.

I know a few mixed race people and they never had any identity issues. When asked what race/ethnic background they were, their reply always was, i.e:    half (enter race here) & half (enter race here). I think you are freaking out here a bit.
Title: Re: Should Gentile races stay pure?
Post by: JeffIsrael on July 07, 2007, 08:42:10 PM
Greetings to you all,

I would like to respond to "Should Gentile races stay pure? I believe that God made white, black, yellow, red, and brown. God also shows the variety in the animal, bird, fish, and insect kindom as well as trees, ect. God is a God of variety and likes it that way, but when He made all this, He meant it to stay that way, otherwise it's a pervertion just like when He made a man and a woman to be together, Satan had to come around and pervert it and make queers and so on. You see Satan is a perverter and cannot create. He can only pervert what God has made. What is a lie? It's the truth perverted. What is  homosexuality? It's normal perverted. So now that I've said all of that, I can now go back to Should Gentile races stay pure? I believe so. God made us what we are and we should be proud of that and stay that way. This is just my opinion.
Title: Re: Should Gentile races stay pure?
Post by: MarZutra on July 07, 2007, 09:03:44 PM
Of course, I feel Gentile or Jew of any race can respect who they are whether they be Asian, Black, Arab, White or whatever.  Any person who values their heritage, culture, ethnicity and entire being would want, logically, to be with their likeness.  All of this "Utopian" love everyone, everyone/thing is equal garbage is the ineptitude of the Socialist rhetoric which the vast majority of its elitist proponents emphatically do not support......  my two cents.....
Title: Re: Should Gentile races stay pure?
Post by: JeffIsrael on July 07, 2007, 09:17:36 PM
I agree fully. It's pure communist inspired and thank God we can see it. It's good to have our eyes open to this Godless system we live in.
Title: Re: Should Gentile races stay pure?
Post by: MarZutra on July 07, 2007, 09:39:15 PM
I agree fully. It's pure communist inspired and thank G-d we can see it. It's good to have our eyes open to this Godless system we live in.
Agreed brother.... ;)
Title: Re: Should Gentile races stay pure?
Post by: Raulmarrio2000 on July 08, 2007, 01:35:39 AM
According to the Torah only Jews are forbidden to intermarriage. Gentiles can marry any Gentile. You won't sin for that. But a Noahide should marry another Noahide. It's very difficult to live with a pagan.
Regarding race, no race is superior to another, but if you love your ethnical group and heritage, it's better for you to keep yor race pure. If you are German and love Germany, then you'd better marry a German so that you can teach your children the love for your Homeland.
Title: Re: Should Gentile races stay pure?
Post by: Mstislav on July 08, 2007, 10:40:20 AM
I was once against interracial & inter ethnic marriages. Although I have friends of all races and ethnicities, I kept it strictly friendship and never dated outside of my own. Love is blind and there will be instances of interracial and inter ethnic marriages. Over time I gradually softend my stance towards the whole thing altogeter. Now I do not care as long as there are enough pure race/ethnic to repopulate so as not to become extinct.
Title: Re: Should Gentile races stay pure?
Post by: newman on July 08, 2007, 10:47:05 AM
There is no religious reason why different gentile races should not intermarry. There are practical ones though.

 Cultural differences can cause problems. We anglo-saxons like to keep non-immediate family at a respectable distance, but my friend's phillipino fiance wanted to flood their house with her relations.....not good.

Another reason is not wanting your children to look like Mike tyson or chairman Mao.
Title: Re: Should Gentile races stay pure?
Post by: Mstislav on July 08, 2007, 11:02:58 AM
There is no religious reason why different gentile races should not intermarry. There are practical ones though.

 Cultural differences can cause problems. We anglo-saxons like to keep non-immediate family at a respectable distance, but my friend's phillipino fiance wanted to flood their house with her relations.....not good.

Another reason is not wanting your children to look like Mike tyson or chairman Mao.

Regarding your 2nd paragraph, that is news to me. Why is that? tyson & mao are UGLY!!!!!!!!!! I cannot imagine anyone getting together with someone who looks like that muchless have kids with them.
Title: Re: Should Gentile races stay pure?
Post by: Shlomo on July 08, 2007, 03:24:45 PM
There is no genetic reason why gentile races should not marry one another. Only religious and cultural reason should be considered since it is important for a husband and wife to have a similar goal. "Racial purity" comes from evolution and from the nazis.

Shame on you in here. This is despicable and ignorant. I know this was started by a troll... but to continue it shows poor judgment. That's a real GREAT topic to have on the top of the list for new posters to see.

Any one who has studied genetics knows that the further away they are from each other, the higher the probability that the child will be healthy and produce stronger offspring. If you are too genetically SIMILAR (as in related), then there are higher chances of problems and mental retardation. To say anything different is ridiculous, ignorant, un-scientific and has a racial and hateful agenda.

Jews are not a race. The reason a Jew must marry another Jew is to keep the G-d's commandments for the Jewish people and to raise Jewish children.
Title: Re: Should Gentile races stay pure?
Post by: Mstislav on July 08, 2007, 06:36:07 PM
There is no genetic reason why gentile races should not marry one another. Only religious and cultural reason should be considered since it is important for a husband and wife to have a similar goal. "Racial purity" comes from evolution and from the nazis.

Shame on you in here. This is despicable and ignorant. I know this was started by a troll... but to continue it shows poor judgment. That's a real GREAT topic to have on the top of the list for new posters to see.

Any one who has studied genetics knows that the further away they are from each other, the higher the probability that the child will be healthy and produce stronger offspring. If you are too genetically SIMILAR (as in related), then there are higher chances of problems and mental retardation. To say anything different is ridiculous, ignorant, un-scientific and has a racial and hateful agenda.

Jews are not a race. The reason a Jew must marry another Jew is to keep the G-d's commandments for the Jewish people and to raise Jewish children.

Maybe this thread should be deleted?
Title: Re: Should Gentile races stay pure?
Post by: MarZutra on July 09, 2007, 12:38:06 PM
Racial purity may well be a Nazi thing but it has much deeper roots embedded in Theosophy and Eastern Gnostic teachings.  In all actuality, it makes absolute sense for people to value their beings and want to be with like whether it be religious, cultureal or racial identities....  My two cents... 
Title: Re: Should Gentile races stay pure?
Post by: Kananga on July 09, 2007, 02:01:40 PM
How many people here can actually testify to being racially "pure"?
Title: Re: Should Gentile races stay pure?
Post by: Shlomo on July 09, 2007, 03:43:33 PM
How many people here can actually testify to being racially "pure"?

Exactly. And how would they be "better" than any other of G-d's creatures?
Title: Re: Should Gentile races stay pure?
Post by: MarZutra on July 09, 2007, 08:06:13 PM
"Racially Pure" is a misnomer.  Perhaps the Black Africans or the Icelandics and a few other examples are befitting this title or as befitting as one can claim.  What is the problem with Blacks wanting to be with Blacks or Asians with Asians, Arab with Arab?  Is this not logical?  This is such an egalitarian sham and an anti-White agenda it is revolting.  If a black goes out and professes admiration to his ethnicity....good for him, if it is Ol Whitey is automatically a debate bolstering "racism" and self hate...   

I agree to disagree on this issue. I have immense pride for blacks wanting to embrace their beings: cultures, heritage and ethnicity as I do Asians, Arabians and too for whites...  To me this is just logic most of the molestations of the pasts are due to imperialism, slavery or other such issues subjugating inferior peoples, cultures by the superior as with Egypt, Greece, Carthage and Rome.....and today with Socialism in hate ol-whitey West....

PS: This thread was started by a StørmFrønt Ignoramus...
Title: Re: Should Gentile races stay pure?
Post by: Shlomo on July 09, 2007, 09:47:35 PM
MarZutra, you make very good points.
Title: Re: Should Gentile races stay pure?
Post by: MarZutra on July 10, 2007, 07:56:02 AM
Thanks Jeffguy.  I remember these debates from the 1970's and 80's.  Whever a pro-black activist group, like the Black Panthers or Black leaders like Jessi Jackson or even Michael King Jr. all of these stupid white liberals (dumb pseudo-Jews included) hopped on the band wagen to protest for "Racial" pride, purity, rights etc. for the blacks.  The minute any question is/was raised for whites those same idiots couldn't understand that their former logic was exactly applicable to themselves but somehow, Liberalism, didn't allow them to hold pride within their own being....but always portrayed themselves in their distorted logic and re-written history.

Actually, in the book "Modern Times" by Paul Johnson there is a chapter on the 1960's that produced this hate whitey attitude as better Louis Bodenz' book "The Techniques of Communism" exemplifies this movement as being infiltrated, controlled, financed by the Communist Party and its international aids using the Blacks, like King, to "progress" their ultra-leftist agenda by creating strife and confusion.  As one can see plainly today and even moreso in the past....it worked.

In addition to this, I'd argue, as does Dr. Paul Johnson, that the Black population had much better relations with whites, better/higher overall education performance, higher literacy, better social moral/values, better family conditions etc. etc. before Trueman-Eisenhower-Kennedy forced desegragational agenda.  Actually, the result for which was the burning of nearly every major city center in the US by disgruntled blacks and their communist white supporters. 

I'd argue this too the situation for South Africa.  When Apartheid was forcefully dismantled by the "international community": Communists/Socialist block as with Congo and many other examples, the over all standards, relationships, civility, social norms collapsed and the Blacks are worse off today than when they had their own communities and own social/cultural institutions assisted managed by whites.

This is such a molested topic to be quite honest by "Progressive" Educational System, plagairized (spelling) books like Roots, contortions of the so-called civil rights movement, the entire perception of Michael King Jr., Jessi jackoff and the rest into being perceived buy the dumbed down masses as something that they are not.  Take the Black Panther Party for example or Lois Farrakhan no one very hears their anti-White racial diatribes nor their goal of making a separate, yes separate, black nation "whitenrein" inside America.....  One only hears of the KKK or the "white nationalists"....  Again, hate whitey.... sorry to digress....

Title: Re: Should Gentile races stay pure?
Post by: FlashIce on August 02, 2007, 11:26:50 AM
Let me ask you MarZurta, would you like jews to only marry jews? simple question.
Title: Re: Should Gentile races stay pure?
Post by: newman on August 02, 2007, 11:29:19 AM
That's a silly question. Jews can ONLY marry Jews under Jewish law.
Title: Re: Should Gentile races stay pure?
Post by: FlashIce on August 02, 2007, 11:53:21 AM
And this doesn't sound like a nationalistic ideology? Whats the difference between that and WN? Because one law is written in a book and the other is not?


I'm not a WN or Jew, so I don't have those laws in my book.
Title: Re: Should Gentile races stay pure?
Post by: mord on August 02, 2007, 11:56:13 AM
Thats not a racial observation a Jew religiously should marry another Jew
Title: Re: Should Gentile races stay pure?
Post by: newman on August 02, 2007, 12:03:33 PM
And this doesn't sound like a nationalistic ideology? Whats the difference between that and WN? Because one law is written in a book and the other is not?


I'm not a WN or Jew, so I don't have those laws in my book.

Yes Jews are a nation, but NOT a race. It is irrelevant what laws YOU choose to follow. Under the religious laws that define who a Jew is, a Jew(of ANY race/colour) can only marry another Jew(of ANY race/clour).

There is ZERO equivalence between this religious law and white nationalism. I hope this clears up any misunderstanding you may have had, FlashIce.
Title: Re: Should Gentile races stay pure?
Post by: Shlomo on August 02, 2007, 12:32:26 PM
And this doesn't sound like a nationalistic ideology? Whats the difference between that and WN? Because one law is written in a book and the other is not?

I'm not a WN or Jew, so I don't have those laws in my book.

And, now, we don't have your garbage in our forum.

He was banned.

http://jtf.org/forum_english/index.php?topic=5997.msg64492#msg64492 (http://jtf.org/forum_english/index.php?topic=5997.msg64492#msg64492)
Title: Re: Should Gentile races stay pure?
Post by: German Christ on August 15, 2007, 02:05:25 PM
Should individual gentile races stay pure? Should Caucasoids only date Caucasoids and same with Mongoloids, and Negroids?
And most of all, should Europeans or people of Euro descent (like persians, americans, etc..) only date other Europeans? I truly believe so.

Hard thing. I would love to marry an american woman,  because I don't like most of the German girls.  But I think there shouldn't be marriage between White and Black and Asian people. This is strange I think. And of course no marriage between the same sex!!
I have ssen a german tv show were ttruly an iranian muslim has married an jewish israelian woman! This is just a crime I think, but our great media told it borderless love...
Title: Re: Should Gentile races stay pure?
Post by: mord on August 15, 2007, 05:57:10 PM
Well if you marry a American woman she'll probably be of European descent,her ancestors probably would have been European
Title: Re: Should Gentile races stay pure?
Post by: Mstislav on August 16, 2007, 10:54:14 AM
Should individual gentile races stay pure? Should Caucasoids only date Caucasoids and same with Mongoloids, and Negroids?
And most of all, should Europeans or people of Euro descent (like persians, americans, etc..) only date other Europeans? I truly believe so.

Hard thing. I would love to marry an american woman,  because I don't like most of the German girls.  But I think there shouldn't be marriage between White and Black and Asian people. This is strange I think. And of course no marriage between the same sex!!
I have ssen a german tv show were ttruly an iranian muslim has married an jewish israelian woman! This is just a crime I think, but our great media told it borderless love...

There should not be any marriages between muslim and non muslim. I would like to see how long this 'borderless love' lasts.
Title: Re: Should Gentile races stay pure?
Post by: Ashkenazi on September 11, 2007, 06:43:56 PM
To who ever started this thread, I could tell you the orthodox point of view, anyways, I was raised by my parents which are orthodox jews my father up to this day is a still rabbi and during my teen years my father would review the laws of the talmud to me on saturdays for an hour, he always tended to talk about how bad race mixing was and that I should only have marry and have intercourse with a ethnically jewish girls and that judaism is only written in our inheritance not non ethnically jewish people as a kid and up to this day my father and his friends which are rabbis they themselves refer to wanabe jews or converts (non ethnically jewish people) as stupid goy and a big danger to jewish idenity, personally Im not religious but believe and live by the talmuds laws, so yes I agree that that gentiles and jews should stay pure anyone who says jews arnt a race is lying to themselves because their is such thing as jewish blood any critics care to disprove that? and lets not forget the holocaust this is what inflames me and pisses me of about people saying jews are not a race, during the holocaust the nazi's didnt determine jews by whoever wore a kippa or had a menorah, they did it by the means of whoever was ethnically a jew, I'd love for one of you "jews are not a race" critics to say that too a holocaust survivor see what they have to say and if jews arnt a race what race am I then if not jewish?
Title: Re: Should Gentile races stay pure?
Post by: Mstislav on September 11, 2007, 06:53:35 PM
To who ever started this thread, I could tell you the orthodox point of view, anyways, I was raised by my parents which are orthodox jews my father up to this day is a still rabbi and during my teen years my father would review the laws of the talmud to me on saturdays for an hour, he always tended to talk about how bad race mixing was and that I should only have marry and have intercourse with a ethnically jewish girls and that judaism is only written in our inheritance not non ethnically jewish people as a kid and up to this day my father and his friends which are rabbis they themselves refer to wanabe jews or converts (non ethnically jewish people) as stupid goy and a big danger to jewish idenity,

So your father and his friends do not like converts to Judaism? No wonder orthodox rabbis vigorously discourage potential converts. Other rabbis will take on potential converts as long as the person wanting to convert is sincere and willing to study and fullfil the 613 mitzvot.
Title: Re: Should Gentile races stay pure?
Post by: MarZutra on September 11, 2007, 08:29:44 PM
I think I had already posted earlier that this thread was started by a Nazi StørmFrønt ignoramis....
Title: Re: Should Gentile races stay pure?
Post by: Ashkenazi on September 12, 2007, 11:30:15 AM
To who ever started this thread, I could tell you the orthodox point of view, anyways, I was raised by my parents which are orthodox jews my father up to this day is a still rabbi and during my teen years my father would review the laws of the talmud to me on saturdays for an hour, he always tended to talk about how bad race mixing was and that I should only have marry and have intercourse with a ethnically jewish girls and that judaism is only written in our inheritance not non ethnically jewish people as a kid and up to this day my father and his friends which are rabbis they themselves refer to wanabe jews or converts (non ethnically jewish people) as stupid goy and a big danger to jewish idenity,

So your father and his friends do not like converts to Judaism? No wonder orthodox rabbis vigorously discourage potential converts. Other rabbis will take on potential converts as long as the person wanting to convert is sincere and willing to study and fullfil the 613 mitzvot.

Yes they do fiercly and find them offensive, I personally find converts to be offensive, a convert wearing a kippa is like a jew wearing a swastika it just dosent make sense to me to what would drive a goy to follow a religion that clearly inst written in their inheritance or to what would drive a jew to accept a convert or marry a convert or even bear children to one yuck LOL!  All accepting converts does is put infiltrators amoung our people and religion and give them the same rights as us which does nothing but cause miscegenation which taints our blood and converts never tend to follow or take our religion as serious as a jew would simply because its not ideal for them and they know it, all the following applies in the same way to a jew that converts to christianity for example.
Title: Re: Should Gentile races stay pure?
Post by: EagleEye on September 12, 2007, 11:37:44 AM
Ashkenazi is incorrect.  A race must have distinguishing physical characteristics.  Sephardic Jews resemble Italians and Arabs, Ahskenazi Jews resemble Armenians and Kurds, therefore neither are "distinct" as he claims.  Both however, are non-German.  Judaism is inheritance of a religious tradition.
Title: Re: Should Gentile races stay pure?
Post by: Mstislav on September 12, 2007, 05:15:41 PM
Only Orthodox rabbis will make converts fulfill all the mitzvot.



Most converts would follow all the mitzvot on their own and tend to move towards orthodoxy. Have you read conversion stories of people who converted to Judaism?
Title: Re: Should Gentile races stay pure?
Post by: Mstislav on September 12, 2007, 05:30:01 PM


Yes they do fiercly and find them offensive, I personally find converts to be offensive, a convert wearing a kippa is like a jew wearing a swastika it just dosent make sense to me to what would drive a goy to follow a religion that clearly inst written ininheritanc their e or to what would drive a jew to accept a convert or marry a convert or even bear children to one yuck LOL!  All accepting converts does is put infiltrators amoung our people and religion and give them the same rights as us which does nothing but cause miscegenation which taints our blood and converts never tend to follow or take our religion as serious as a jew would simply because its not ideal for them and they know it, all the following applies in the same way to a jew that converts to christianity for example.


If orthodox rabbis find converts offensive, then why bother taking one on in the first place, even if they are sincere? That does not make sense at all. Why do the rabbis not tell the potential convert everything you just told us? Would it make you feel any better if converts married other converts? Jews have the same rights as everyone else in other countries, muslim cesspools not included, you should keep that in mind before you deplore converts having the same rights as ethnic Jews in Judaism.
Title: Re: Should Gentile races stay pure?
Post by: MarZutra on September 13, 2007, 06:52:12 AM

If orthodox rabbis find converts offensive, then why bother taking one on in the first place, even if they are sincere? That does not make sense at all. Why do the rabbis not tell the potential convert everything you just told us? Would it make you feel any better if converts married other converts? Jews have the same rights as everyone else in other countries, muslim cesspools not included, you should keep that in mind before you deplore converts having the same rights as ethnic Jews in Judaism.
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I don't believe this to be true at all.  Every Othodox Rabbi I have ever met loves to have sincere converts.  Any Convert to Othodox Judaism is just as "Jewish" as anyone else.  Orthodox Rabbi's turn away, or deny, conversion numerous time to pending converts to make sure that their conversions are sincere and it is something they truly want to do and not to do it and then "lose interest" sort of speak.  My Othodox Rabbi's wife is the daughter of a convert to display the aforementioned logic.
Title: Re: Should Gentile races stay pure?
Post by: Ashkenazi on September 13, 2007, 05:40:43 PM


Yes they do fiercly and find them offensive, I personally find converts to be offensive, a convert wearing a kippa is like a jew wearing a swastika it just dosent make sense to me to what would drive a goy to follow a religion that clearly inst written ininheritanc their e or to what would drive a jew to accept a convert or marry a convert or even bear children to one yuck LOL!  All accepting converts does is put infiltrators amoung our people and religion and give them the same rights as us which does nothing but cause miscegenation which taints our blood and converts never tend to follow or take our religion as serious as a jew would simply because its not ideal for them and they know it, all the following applies in the same way to a jew that converts to christianity for example.


If orthodox rabbis find converts offensive, then why bother taking one on in the first place, even if they are sincere? That does not make sense at all. Why do the rabbis not tell the potential convert everything you just told us? Would it make you feel any better if converts married other converts? Jews have the same rights as everyone else in other countries, muslim cesspools not included, you should keep that in mind before you deplore converts having the same rights as ethnic Jews in Judaism.

I dont know why they take one in the first place, I think its maybe because you cant discriminate in todays society and they (non jews) always come seeking to be converted in the first place other than that I dont know Ive only been told the do's and donts of judaism, other than that Mstislav you have your opinion on converts I have mine we'll leave it at that.
Title: Re: Should Gentile races stay pure?
Post by: Ashkenazi on September 13, 2007, 05:55:17 PM
Ashkenazi is incorrect.  A race must have distinguishing physical characteristics.  Sephardic Jews resemble Italians and Arabs, Ahskenazi Jews resemble Armenians and Kurds, therefore neither are "distinct" as he claims.  Both however, are non-German.  Judaism is inheritance of a religious tradition.

Accually all the ahskenazi's I knew hardly resembled armenians or kurds they looked more like slavs and anglo's  but with all the stero typical jew features of an ahskenazi, most orthodox jews in general are of eastern european orgin.
Title: Re: Should Gentile races stay pure?
Post by: Erica on September 13, 2007, 09:05:23 PM
All humans are NOT equal, YOU ARE LISTENING TO TOO MUCH LIBERAL PROPAGANDA. read my other post in this forum, about the jews being the master race.
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Sarah, how about you go to Al Sharpton's forum and beign posting there about the blacks being superior above all else. hell, you can take Mack-Satanist-B with you. But as for us, we will stay on JTF and fight the descendents of Ham and we shall win!

However, you two seem to want to get on your knees whenever you are in a dark room and see floating teeth and eyes around. You are a disgrace to this website, I should say.
Leave Sarah alone. She never said thta blacks are superior to anyone, she's saying that race mixing isn't a big deal. If you love someone you should have the freedom to choose who you'd like to spend your days with. That's a human emotion. YOU are an animal...I put you in the same category as evil black people.
Title: Re: Should Gentile races stay pure?
Post by: MarZutra on September 14, 2007, 09:30:10 AM
Erica, much of what you say is true but the foundations are built on the back of a mass amount of Socialist/Communist propaganda: "multiculturalism" "diversity" "melting pot" etc.  Yes if two people love each other, logically, they'd want to be together.  On the same token, if one truly had admiration for their individual being: culture, heritage, faith, nationhood, ethnicity etc. they'd want to be with someone of the same, especially if they wish to see their specific aforementioned values continued on to the next generation; via their offspring.  This is the reason why Jews have not disappeared or "melted" away like many other peoples because Judaism is directly opposed to these "enlightened" Utopian Socialistic Marxian ineptitudes.  Extened onto this is the failure of "diversity" and "multiculturalism" and the bankruptcy of the ideological specificities of communalism: socialism in general.  If one looks at any Western city, they will see different communities built solely on the aforementioned qualities and not "melting" or to put it more accurately, as the ideologies suggest, to distroy: culture, family, nation, individual, religion etc. to "progress" the purely academically proven outcome of everyone being "equal" living in a great communal utopia.

It was a good post Erica and a very good indication on how the mind of the left operates ;)
Title: Re: Should Gentile races stay pure?
Post by: Erica on September 14, 2007, 10:50:19 AM
Erica, much of what you say is true but the foundations are built on the back of a mass amount of Socialist/Communist propaganda: "multiculturalism" "diversity" "melting pot" etc.  Yes if two people love each other, logically, they'd want to be together.  On the same token, if one truly had admiration for their individual being: culture, heritage, faith, nationhood, ethnicity etc. they'd want to be with someone of the same, especially if they wish to see their specific aforementioned values continued on to the next generation; via their offspring.  This is the reason why Jews have not disappeared or "melted" away like many other peoples because Judaism is directly opposed to these "enlightened" Utopian Socialistic Marxian ineptitudes.  Extened onto this is the failure of "diversity" and "multiculturalism" and the bankruptcy of the ideological specificities of communalism: socialism in general.  If one looks at any Western city, they will see different communities built solely on the aforementioned qualities and not "melting" or to put it more accurately, as the ideologies suggest, to distroy: culture, family, nation, individual, religion etc. to "progress" the purely academically proven outcome of everyone being "equal" living in a great communal utopia.

It was a good post Erica and a very good indication on how the mind of the left operates ;)
Love isn't about politics, MarZutra. Also, its weird that people who hate 'race mixing' as it were, would love to have a token black friend as a friend, and have that right but if given the opportunity would never date a black person.

I have a 16 year old who has a crush on a Puerto Rican boy... she also has a crush on a white boy in her high school. If she wanted to date either of them, she could because we don't have the right to tell her "don't date anyone other than someone YOUR color". That's not realistic. The reason that there are so many stigmas attached to interracial dating is because of the people who are on the outside looking in; basically saying "They dont' have the right to be happy together.", when its not up to them to decide who will be the right person for them. I'm use to hearing the word 'offspring' attached to the animal kingdom...so I'm going to tell you like this... People who are in interracial relationships, where it pertains to having children together have one of two choices. Choice #1. They can play racial tug-of-war with their child's emotions; telling their child "My side  of you is superior to you're mom/dad's side" and because you are linked with MY side, you'll make it in the world.  And choice #2. Raise the child with common knowledge of both ethnicities and teach them to appreciate the world around them as well as the people in it.

If you don't want to racially 'intermingle' with anyone..don't. That's why its called preference. No one is twisting your arm to meet up with, marry and procreate with a black woman. Why should it be taboo or bad for someone else to choose to be with someone from another race?
Title: Re: Should Gentile races stay pure?
Post by: MarZutra on September 14, 2007, 02:47:28 PM
Sorry there Erica, but "Love" per say has nothing to do with politics but it does now have something to do with "Social" movements that are directly related to and influence political forum.  That is a fact my dear sista.  Perhaps you might like to peruse the title by Louis Bodenz "Techniques of Communism" or read up on the factual reality about Michael King Jr.  The first tells "How" and "Why" and the latter displays this in deed. 

You are right in your logic specifically speaking of individual and emotional but compounded on top of that is all the propaganda and disinformation put forward solely for a socio-political agenda. 
Title: Re: Should Gentile races stay pure?
Post by: Erica on September 14, 2007, 04:37:16 PM
Sorry there Erica, but "Love" per say has nothing to do with politics but it does now have something to do with "Social" movements that are directly related to and influence political forum.  That is a fact my dear sista.  Perhaps you might like to peruse the title by Louis Bodenz "Techniques of Communism" or read up on the factual reality about Michael King Jr.  The first tells "How" and "Why" and the latter displays this in deed. 

You are right in your logic specifically speaking of individual and emotional but compounded on top of that is all the propaganda and disinformation put forward solely for a socio-political agenda. 
You are speaking about me pushing propaganda and yet you're pushing a book of propaganda about Martin Luther king, Jr. Until the FBI files are opened, I'm not reading anything that has anything to do with your assertion that King was a communist. That was something that J. Edgar Hoover cooked up because King was liked a hell of a lot more than he was. King was dangerous because he spoke out against racial inequality and for equality for all. He was never part of the Black Power movement either.

Also I rely on attraction and love to dictate to me who people should be with. Not socializm and racial differences, but you can think that way if you want to.
Title: Re: Should Gentile races stay pure?
Post by: Erica on September 14, 2007, 04:39:24 PM

And, now, we don't have your garbage in our forum.

He was banned.


THANK GOODNESS!

I hate it when people criticize Jews for only marrying Jews. It is written. Gd Himself comanded it, He knew that when Jews marry non-Jews the children will not follow His commandments. I see it when a Jew and a non-Jew marry and say something stupid like "We'll let the kids decide what religion they will be" then they have "Chrismukah" in December  >:( MOST CONFUSED children ever!

And to that NoahideGentile  guy...I wonder if he's that Flashvirus guy on youtube? The kid who hates JTF because he got banned...he comments on every JTF video insulting Chaim  >:(

WELL, you say that you will never he a noahide, SORRY dude, you are a descendent of Noah...YOU ARE a noahide by definiton whether you like it or not!

BTW, guests can post on the forum? I thought only members could!?
Once you are ejected from this site, or leave at your own will, your posts will state that you're a guest. I think that's a way of keeping it in the archives.
Title: Re: Should Gentile races stay pure?
Post by: MarZutra on September 14, 2007, 05:09:35 PM
Erica, I see you are very open minded.  I was not pushing a book on Michael King Jr.  Not at all.  If you refer back to my post you will see that you misread what I was saying.  What I did post was very accurate and factual.  I even admitted you were right with what you said about "love" as well just had taken it one step further which anyone with a brain can plainly see all around them within today's "progressive" and "enlightened" society. 
Title: Re: Should Gentile races stay pure?
Post by: Erica on September 15, 2007, 02:00:47 AM
Erica, I see you are very open minded.  I was not pushing a book on Michael King Jr.  Not at all.  If you refer back to my post you will see that you misread what I was saying.  What I did post was very accurate and factual.  I even admitted you were right with what you said about "love" as well just had taken it one step further which anyone with a brain can plainly see all around them within today's "progressive" and "enlightened" society. 
Forgot to ask... why does everyone think its okay to call me 'sista' or 'girlfriend'? 

If your intent wasn't to get me to read the book, thanks for the clarity (because I had no intention of actually purchasing the book at all..) and I'm sorry for my assumption.

Yes, you agreed with that part of the post about the emotional aspect of a relationship, but you also said that basically relationships were built on political agenda. I don't know how politics fits in with personal relationships between a couple though. Enlighten me, please.
Title: Re: Should Gentile races stay pure?
Post by: MarZutra on September 15, 2007, 07:54:00 AM
Forgot to ask... why does everyone think its okay to call me 'sista' or 'girlfriend'?  Perhaps trying to appease the black "culture" and its linguistical distortions of English: "ebonics"?

If your intent wasn't to get me to read the book, thanks for the clarity (because I had no intention of actually purchasing the book at all..) and I'm sorry for my assumption.Again, that is very open minded of you especially when one is trying to be honest and give clearity to an on going problem for all "communities".  Usually, when someone lays base of a discussion using a particular book or referance material, I will consider the source and the facts or the "facts" within to see where this individual is coming from and how they formed their opinions/beliefs.  That is just me.  I must be old fashioned...

Yes, you agreed with that part of the post about the emotional aspect of a relationship, but you also said that basically relationships were built on political agenda. Actually, if you go back and read my posts I said nothing of the sort.  I did, however, say that there is a social and a political agenda "progressing" these ideas for particular goals for particular reasons.I don't know how politics fits in with personal relationships between a couple though. Enlighten me, please.If you go back and read my posts, the explanation is within.  Further, if you decide to go to a library and look up any titles dealing with these social-political movements, as previously stated, you will see exactly how it all ties together. ;)

Title: Re: Should Gentile races stay pure?
Post by: jdl4ever on October 18, 2007, 07:42:21 PM
What was written earlier about converts being looked down upon was incorrect; in fact the opposite is true.  As R' Meir Kahane said "a convert is just as Jewish as Kahane."  The great Joshua's wife was a convert and an ex prostitute nonetheless, but she made a since conversion and repented sincerely.   
Title: Re: Should Gentile races stay pure?
Post by: Tzvi Ben Roshel1 on October 28, 2007, 09:01:43 PM
the poster Askenazi is full of S**t. I dont believe what he has wrote. True converts are discouraged, but arent treated bad or looked down upon by orthodox Jews and even more soo Rabbis. Theirs a special Commandment to be extra careful (not to hurt them) with converts just like it is with Widows and Orphans. One is not even allowed to put down the nation of a convert in front of him - ex- If a Frenchman converts- you cant call frenchmen wossies- becuase even if you think it wont hurt him, deep down it still might becuase thats where he came from.
Title: Re: Should Gentile races stay pure?
Post by: White Israelite on October 28, 2007, 10:42:26 PM
you are free to do what you want, I promote being separate however.
Title: Re: Should Gentile races stay pure?
Post by: Wayne Jude on October 28, 2007, 10:45:28 PM
Yes! ;) :)
Title: Re: Should Gentile races stay pure?
Post by: MarZutra on October 29, 2007, 07:12:48 PM
Again...the idiot that started this thread was a Nazi Stormfronter...
Title: Re: Should Gentile races stay pure?
Post by: Iron Greek on November 05, 2007, 09:29:24 PM
I believe that staying with your own race is very important.
They key for any people of a culture to flourish is for those people to know who they are!
They reason why America is so unstable is that morals,values,culture,family responsibilities and expectations have been washed away by the media and this multicultural society.
In America there are all kinds of parades and festivals for cultures and it kills me to see them have these but to embrace interracial relationships at the same time which renders them pointless.
Many of you are great Jews, and just great people
but if you are one who embraces your culture than you wouldn't be who you are today without your ancestors keeping your bloodline great, because without that you wouldn't know who you are or who you descend from and all pride and heritage would be gone.

America is now worthless in this sense! This country was founded by great people but its upbringing has turned into a disaster.

I am a seventeen year old male Greek Orthodox Christian living in San Antonio, Texas  and i just recently found out about this great organization. I have never thought about pursuing  politics as a career until just recently and i honestly believe i have found my true passion. I have learned about many aspects of JTF and i believe this organization is a tool of G-d. Gods working through Kahane,JDL,and JTF! I feel that i have a calling into this organization and would like to take a lead role in the Jewish Task Force. Although i am not Jewish i support the Jewish people and everything this organization stands and aims for.
Title: Re: Should Gentile races stay pure?
Post by: raiseyourfist on November 05, 2007, 09:42:10 PM
Welcome Iron Greek... your one of our first our Greek members and it is great to have you on board
Title: Re: Should Gentile races stay pure?
Post by: Hail Columbia on November 05, 2007, 09:45:37 PM
I am a seventeen year old male Greek Orthodox Christian living in San Antonio, Texas  and i just recently found out about this great organization. I have never thought about pursuing  politics as a career until just recently and i honestly believe i have found my true passion. I have learned about many aspects of JTF and i believe this organization is a tool of G-d. Gods working through Kahane,JDL,and JTF! I feel that i have a calling into this organization and would like to take a lead role in the Jewish Task Force. Although i am not Jewish i support the Jewish people and everything this organization stands and aims for.

Since you're a Greek Orthodox Christian, I'm sure that you like our support for the Serbian people.  Oh yes, we support the heroic Serbs 100%.
Title: Re: Should Gentile races stay pure?
Post by: Manhig Yisroel on November 06, 2007, 12:43:40 AM
I believe that staying with your own race is very important.
They key for any people of a culture to flourish is for those people to know who they are!
They reason why America is so unstable is that morals,values,culture,family responsibilities and expectations have been washed away by the media and this multicultural society.
In America there are all kinds of parades and festivals for cultures and it kills me to see them have these but to embrace interracial relationships at the same time which renders them pointless.
Many of you are great Jews, and just great people
but if you are one who embraces your culture than you wouldn't be who you are today without your ancestors keeping your bloodline great, because without that you wouldn't know who you are or who you descend from and all pride and heritage would be gone.

America is now worthless in this sense! This country was founded by great people but its upbringing has turned into a disaster.

I am a seventeen year old male Greek Orthodox Christian living in San Antonio, Texas  and i just recently found out about this great organization. I have never thought about pursuing  politics as a career until just recently and i honestly believe i have found my true passion. I have learned about many aspects of JTF and i believe this organization is a tool of G-d. Gods working through Kahane,JDL,and JTF! I feel that i have a calling into this organization and would like to take a lead role in the Jewish Task Force. Although i am not Jewish i support the Jewish people and everything this organization stands and aims for.

Jews don't marry non-Jews because the Torah prohibits it. G-d says that this will destroy our people. However, a gentile should marry anyone that is righteous (and of course, compatible) and should not limit his options to race. Obsession with race and bloodline will naturally lead to race-worship and neo-paganism; we do not conduct ourselves in this manner. There is nothing wrong with a righteous chinese woman marrying a righteous caucasian, and nothing wrong with a righteous black man marrying a righteous caucasian woman. Every individual can decide for himself which path to follow, good or evil, or as G-d puts it, "life and death; therefore choose life."

Thank G-d you have chosen life. Welcome to the forum.

Yes, staying with your own race is very important, but you contradict yourself later.

Here is the bottom line that normal fools do not get because they are foolish.

Mating with a member of your own race is important because you can always find a better mate within your own race. Thus, if you love someone of another race, then you are not looking in the right places for a mate because you are a fool, and you do not realize that the best place to look for a mate is within your own race.

Those who are not most attracted to members of their own race are fools with perversions based on their insecurities. People who seek out members of inferior race do not want to be intellectually challenged by the mentally superior members of their own race, because they are philosophically confused and philosophically closed-minded. They would rather have a dog who doesn't challenge them and disturb their perverse "peace of mind," so they are more willing to mate with a member of a lesser race.

Add to this fact that most white women are stupid and confused, because of the stupid and confused white men who fail to teach them the meaning of life and how to live. For that, you need a freak of a man: a man who is able and willing to think for himself: a real man: not like the vast majority of men in this pathetic world in which we live. 

Even within the Jewish people, Jews should only mate with members of their own race, for YOU CAN FIND A BETTER MATE WITHIN THEIR OWN RACE. I need to teach this to the confused men, and they need to teach it to the confused women. I am sick and tired of living in a world of witches who reject real men as a result of their ignorance, insecurity, and ineptitude.

The basic division should be this. White people should mate with white people, and colored people should mate with colored people. I personally do not care how colored people mate with each other, and I believe that the difference between the average Ashkenazim and the average Aryan is NOTEWORTHY, but not grounds for insisting that Ashkenazim mate only with Ashkenazim, and that Aryans mate only with Aryans. As long as the white person is or becomes Jewish, it is okay for them to mate with another white person.

Anyone with any questions about my beliefs may ask them.   
Title: Re: Should Gentile races stay pure?
Post by: Iron Greek on November 06, 2007, 01:17:41 AM
regarding your statement from the torah
when a jew marrys a non jew it destroys the jewish people
That just doesnt go for jews
for example if a greek guy married a black woman that would be destroying the greek people as well.
 
Well what if a jewish girl married a jew that was black and lets say that this happened across all of israel
and eventually israels majority becomes black, but they are all jewish how would you feel about that???
Of course it wouldnt be liked.
Title: Re: Should Gentile races stay pure?
Post by: Manhig Yisroel on November 06, 2007, 01:20:30 AM
As expected, someone has misinterpreted me and misquoted me.

I never said that Jews are a race. I said Ashkenazim are a race. Sephardim are another race. You can be a Jew of any race under the sun, but there is an Ashkenazi race and a Sephardi race. The Ashkenazi race is the Khazar race, and the Sephardi race is the Israelite race.

Most Jews are Ashkenazi, but you can be an Aryan Jew, an Asian Jew, an African Jew, etc.

And then you misquote me by saying that I said that people are naturally attracted to members of their own race and THAT is the reason that people should mate with members of their own race. I never said that. Not once did I say anything about "attraction." I said YOU CAN FIND A BETTER MATE WITHIN YOUR OWN RACE. This is an objective fact, based upon what constitutes rational priorities.

I am not talking about that to which people happen to be "attracted." You can be attracted to murder, but that doesn't make it okay to murder. If you are not most attracted to members of your own race and only to members of your own race, then you have what is called a "perversion," because something is wrong with your philosophy of life. You are a fool if you do not realize that you can find a better mate within your own race, for the reasons that I stated.

Please do not misinterpret me, and please do not misquote me.
Title: Re: Should Gentile races stay pure?
Post by: Kiwi on November 06, 2007, 01:35:40 AM
I agree with marrying and bearing children belonging to the one race.

Separatist's aren't bad just like to have races remain genetically strong.
Title: Re: Should Gentile races stay pure?
Post by: newman on November 06, 2007, 01:36:22 AM
It's NOT rascist to want to breed with your own kind.

Think about this (and be honest):

Whenever any of you imagined having children or grandchildren...... what did they look like in your mind's eye?


Yes.....like you, right. You NEVER imagined them as mixed race babies, admit it!
Title: Re: Should Gentile races stay pure?
Post by: Manhig Yisroel on November 06, 2007, 01:40:32 AM
Thanks Mills. I'll post an introduction to myself later.

In response to your comment, now you're getting into more complicated terroritory, but it is still navigable.

The mentally inferior races are expected to be attracted to the mentally superior races, and it is not immoral for them to be so attacted. But it is immoral -- a perversion -- when members of a superior race are more attracted to members of inferior race. As I said previously, there are two possible explanations for this: 1. ignorance of the differences between the races as a result of Marxist egalitarian equality-obsessed propaganda, or 2. intellectual insecurity deriving from philosophical confusion, and the desire not to be challenged by a mentally superior man of your own race.

I cannot tell you how many more arrogant, feminist witches there are on JDate. I hate JDate and the witches who are on it. Show me a woman who isn't a confused witch, and who has good taste in men, and you will show me an exception to the rule.
Title: Re: Should Gentile races stay pure?
Post by: Iron Greek on November 06, 2007, 01:42:12 AM
You can determine your path
but for me when i am looking to marry i will find a greek, or nice european girl to carry on my great bloodline
Keeping traditions,cultures,and morals is not a sin
In my opinion I wouldn't like it one bit if the whole world was one big melting pot!!!

Title: Re: Should Gentile races stay pure?
Post by: Kiwi on November 06, 2007, 01:42:51 AM
It's NOT rascist to want to breed with your own kind.

Think about this (and be honest):

Whenever any of you imagined having children or grandchildren...... what did they look like in your mind's eye?


Yes.....like you, right. You NEVER imagined them as mixed race babies, admit it!

Have you ever imagined having little newmans?
Title: Re: Should Gentile races stay pure?
Post by: newman on November 06, 2007, 01:46:47 AM
It's NOT rascist to want to breed with your own kind.

Think about this (and be honest):

Whenever any of you imagined having children or grandchildren...... what did they look like in your mind's eye?


Yes.....like you, right. You NEVER imagined them as mixed race babies, admit it!

Have you ever imagined having little newmans?

Little white Newmans would be intollerable. Little black ones would be candidates for drowning at birth!
Title: Re: Should Gentile races stay pure?
Post by: Mstislav on November 06, 2007, 01:55:40 AM
Superior/inferior races? The only people I hear talking like that are racists. The type of culture one follows determines wheather or not they are defined as superior or inferior.
Title: Re: Should Gentile races stay pure?
Post by: Iron Greek on November 06, 2007, 01:58:31 AM
Correct
in my case its forbidden by Greek culture not a holy book
Title: Re: Should Gentile races stay pure?
Post by: newman on November 06, 2007, 01:59:24 AM
You can determine your path
but for me when i am looking to marry i will find a greek, or nice european girl to carry on my great bloodline
Keeping traditions,cultures,and morals is not a sin
In my opinion I wouldn't like it one bit if the whole world was one big melting pot!!!



He's right.

Greeks, Italians, Japanese, Anglo-saxons etc are all different and ALL have virtues and display particular talents.

It's great to have Italian artistry, German engineering, Japanese perfection etc etc. Why mess that up?

If you go to an international food fare, you can enjoy Thai, Italian, Chinese or Indian food. Eaten separately they are all good. But put Thai food, Indian curry, Italian pasta and American spare ribs in a food processor and mix them into a big, mixed-up slop and it'll taste like crap!
Title: Re: Should Gentile races stay pure?
Post by: Manhig Yisroel on November 06, 2007, 01:59:40 AM

The Ashkenazi race is the Khazar race, and the Sephardi race is the Israelite race.

That is the silliest statement I've ever heard. The one about the Askanazim is an echo from anti-Semitic literature. Ashkanazim are simply descendents of Jews who built communities in Ashkanaz (Hebrew term for Germany), the Rhineland. There is no Israelite race. Sephardim includes a very broad range of people. They were Jewish communities that settled in Spain and the Iberian Peninsula and started to mix with the Arabs in their lands with the rise of Islam.

If that is the silliest statement that you've ever heard, then you need to get out more.

First of all, saying that something is "an echo from anti-Semitic literature" doesn't make it wrong. I would never dream of dismissing an argument or a statement by casually shrugging that it is "an echo from anti-Semitic literature." What kind of non-argument is that?

Second of all, you are wrong about the Ashkenazim. I am not the same Ashkenazim of the Bible. They are two different Ashkenazim. You need to do some research before you blurt out such nonsense.

Third of all, I am well of the fact that the Israelites came to settle in those communities. By the way, you forgot to mention North Africa. Sephardim also came to settle there.

Forth of all, what I call the Israelites are those who originally inhabited Israel, and originally practiced Judaism.

Fifth of all, we should not have gone off on this tangent, and you should not use this tangent to distract from my arguments that pertain to the issue at hand.

Title: Re: Should Gentile races stay pure?
Post by: newman on November 06, 2007, 02:03:39 AM

The Ashkenazi race is the Khazar race, and the Sephardi race is the Israelite race.

That is the silliest statement I've ever heard. The one about the Askanazim is an echo from anti-Semitic literature. Ashkanazim are simply descendents of Jews who built communities in Ashkanaz (Hebrew term for Germany), the Rhineland. There is no Israelite race. Sephardim includes a very broad range of people. They were Jewish communities that settled in Spain and the Iberian Peninsula and started to mix with the Arabs in their lands with the rise of Islam.

If that is the silliest statement that you've ever heard, then you need to get out more.

First of all, saying that something is "an echo from anti-Semitic literature" doesn't make it wrong. I would never dream of dismissing an argument or a statement by casually shrugging that it is "an echo from anti-Semitic literature." What kind of non-argument is that?

Second of all, you are wrong about the Ashkenazim. I am not the same Ashkenazim of the Bible. They are two different Ashkenazim. You need to do some research before you blurt out such nonsense.

Third of all, I am well of the fact that the Israelites came to settle in those communities. By the way, you forgot to mention North Africa. Sephardim also came to settle there.

Forth of all, what I call the Israelites are those who originally inhabited Israel, and originally practiced Judaism.

Fifth of all, we should not have gone off on this tangent, and you should not use this tangent to distract from my arguments that pertain to the issue at hand.



This 'kazar' BS is a nazi myth to try and delegitimise the Jews of Israel.
Title: Re: Should Gentile races stay pure?
Post by: Manhig Yisroel on November 06, 2007, 02:15:55 AM

The Ashkenazi race is the Khazar race, and the Sephardi race is the Israelite race.

That is the silliest statement I've ever heard. The one about the Askanazim is an echo from anti-Semitic literature. Ashkanazim are simply descendents of Jews who built communities in Ashkanaz (Hebrew term for Germany), the Rhineland. There is no Israelite race. Sephardim includes a very broad range of people. They were Jewish communities that settled in Spain and the Iberian Peninsula and started to mix with the Arabs in their lands with the rise of Islam.

Newman, with all due respect, you are mistaken. The idea that the Jews are Khazarian converts was pioneered by the Jews themselves. The best book on the matter is The Thirteenth Tribe by Arthur Koestler, who was a Jewish historian.

Mills, you present a false alternative. The Ashkenazim are perfectly legitimate Jews who should have their own Jewish state, and Eretz Yisroel is a good place to have one. Thus, I support the existence of Israel, and I am a Zionist. Yes, I am a complete Zionist, but I greatly admire Koestler's work. Everyone should read his book. There is no shame -- absolutely none -- with being a descendant of the Khazars. Anyone who has a problem with this is an anti-Semite, for there is nothing wrong with it.
If that is the silliest statement that you've ever heard, then you need to get out more.

First of all, saying that something is "an echo from anti-Semitic literature" doesn't make it wrong. I would never dream of dismissing an argument or a statement by casually shrugging that it is "an echo from anti-Semitic literature." What kind of non-argument is that?

Second of all, you are wrong about the Ashkenazim. I am not the same Ashkenazim of the Bible. They are two different Ashkenazim. You need to do some research before you blurt out such nonsense.

Third of all, I am well of the fact that the Israelites came to settle in those communities. By the way, you forgot to mention North Africa. Sephardim also came to settle there.

Forth of all, what I call the Israelites are those who originally inhabited Israel, and originally practiced Judaism.

Fifth of all, we should not have gone off on this tangent, and you should not use this tangent to distract from my arguments that pertain to the issue at hand.



This 'kazar' BS is a nazi myth to try and delegitimise the Jews of Israel.
Title: Re: Should Gentile races stay pure?
Post by: Manhig Yisroel on November 06, 2007, 02:18:34 AM
Wait... are you one of those people who believe that Ashkenazim are not "legitemate" Jews but converts of the Khazars? Manhig Yisroel ?

Newman, with all due respect, you are mistaken. The idea that the Jews are Khazarian converts was pioneered by the Jews themselves. The best book on the matter is The Thirteenth Tribe by Arthur Koestler, who was a Jewish historian.

Mills, you present a false alternative. The Ashkenazim are perfectly legitimate Jews who should have their own Jewish state, and Eretz Yisroel is a good place to have one. Thus, I support the existence of Israel, and I am a Zionist. Yes, I am a complete Zionist, but I greatly admire Koestler's work. Everyone should read his book. There is no shame -- absolutely none -- with being a descendant of the Khazars. Anyone who has a problem with this is an anti-Semite, for there is nothing wrong with it.
If that is the silliest statement that you've ever heard, then you need to get out more.

First of all, saying that something is "an echo from anti-Semitic literature" doesn't make it wrong. I would never dream of dismissing an argument or a statement by casually shrugging that it is "an echo from anti-Semitic literature." What kind of non-argument is that?

Second of all, you are wrong about the Ashkenazim. I am not the same Ashkenazim of the Bible. They are two different Ashkenazim. You need to do some research before you blurt out such nonsense.

Third of all, I am well of the fact that the Israelites came to settle in those communities. By the way, you forgot to mention North Africa. Sephardim also came to settle there.

Forth of all, what I call the Israelites are those who originally inhabited Israel, and originally practiced Judaism.

Fifth of all, we should not have gone off on this tangent, and you should not use this tangent to distract from my arguments that pertain to the issue at hand.
Title: Re: Should Gentile races stay pure?
Post by: newman on November 06, 2007, 02:22:05 AM
Yes, Kazars did convert, we know that! But to say ALL ashenazim are kazars is rediculous. The kazars are gone. Genuine converts are still Jewish, non-genuine ones would have reverted  or become christians during the religious pogroms of the dark ages. And where BTW did all the 'real' ashkenazim of Europe just disappear to after the tiny kazar nation converted? Huh???

Ban this StørmFrønt propagandist, somebody! >:(
Title: Re: Should Gentile races stay pure?
Post by: Manhig Yisroel on November 06, 2007, 02:26:35 AM
Excuse me, but I a Jewish Zionist. How dare anyone call me a StørmFrønt Propagandist.

If you have questions, as a result of your ignorance, feel free to ask them. I am a philosopher and a writer of immense learning. I am currently working on a history that defends the Jewish religion from anti-Semitic attacks. How dare you speak to me this way, and call for my banning, just because I believe that the Ashkenazim are descendants of the Khazars. If you have a problem with that, then it is you who are the anti-Semite, and it is you who should be banned from this forum.
Title: Re: Should Gentile races stay pure?
Post by: newman on November 06, 2007, 02:36:44 AM
The khazar thing is just the latest in a 2,000 year attack on Jewery.

First it was "G_D has replaced Jews"
Then was "Christ killers"
Then christian blood in the matzot
Then stabbing holes in the communal hosts..........

Religion goes off the boil

Then it was Protocols of the Elders of Zion
Then Jewish economic control
Then Jews are behind communism
Then Jews are capitalist exploiters

None of that worked either

Then it's Jews stole P*lestine
Then Jews in Israel cause wars
Then Jews in Gaza cause terror
Then Jews in 'West Bank' cause terror

Not working still?

Now it's "Jews aren't really Jews but some bunch of European imposters".

Nice try, but it AIN'T WORKING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Should Gentile races stay pure?
Post by: Manhig Yisroel on November 06, 2007, 02:43:17 AM
Yes, I believe that all Ashkenazim are descended from Khazars. So what? If you would hate the Khazars who converted to Judaism, and if you would say that the Jews do not have a right to Israel because they are Khazarian converts, then that makes you anti-Semitic. Why so hateful of Khazarian Jews? Why not respect your Ashkenazi heritage as one of Khazarian descent?

I am a Khazarian, Ashkenazi Jewish Zionist, and I am proud of it!!! If you have a problem with the POSSIBILITY that the Ashkenazim are Khazars, then you are an anti-Semite, and you should be banned from this forum.
Title: Re: Should Gentile races stay pure?
Post by: Manhig Yisroel on November 06, 2007, 02:48:04 AM
I am not saying that the Jews aren't Jews you silly boy! The Jews are Jews are Jews are Jews! It's just that the Ashkenazi Jews are descendants of the Khazars! That does not make them any less Jewish! How dare you diminish the Khazarian Jews by saying that they are not real Jews! They are converts, and they absolutely, totally, 100% REAL JEWS! What part of this don't you understand?
Title: Re: Should Gentile races stay pure?
Post by: newman on November 06, 2007, 02:51:10 AM
Yes, I believe that all Ashkenazim are descended from Khazars. So what? If you would hate the Khazars who converted to Judaism, and if you would say that the Jews do not have a right to Israel because they are Khazarian converts, then that makes you anti-Semitic. Why so hateful of Khazarian Jews? Why not respect your Ashkenazi heritage as one of Khazarian descent?

I am a Khazarian, Ashkenazi Jewish Zionist, and I am proud of it!!! If you have a problem with the POSSIBILITY that the Ashkenazim are Khazars, then you are an anti-Semite, and you should be banned from this forum.

Don't put words in our mouths, troll.

Nobody hates Khazar decended Jews.

Our issue is with you spreading nazi propaganda that ALL (not a tiny few as is the case) Ashkenazim are Khazars as a cloaked attempt to delegitimise the historic Jewish rights to the Land of Israel.

We ain't dumb!!!!
Title: Re: Should Gentile races stay pure?
Post by: newman on November 06, 2007, 02:56:24 AM
Yes, I believe that all Ashkenazim are descended from Khazars. So what? If you would hate the Khazars who converted to Judaism, and if you would say that the Jews do not have a right to Israel because they are Khazarian converts, then that makes you anti-Semitic. Why so hateful of Khazarian Jews? Why not respect your Ashkenazi heritage as one of Khazarian descent?

I am a Khazarian, Ashkenazi Jewish Zionist, and I am proud of it!!! If you have a problem with the POSSIBILITY that the Ashkenazim are Khazars, then you are an anti-Semite, and you should be banned from this forum.

Don't put words in our mouths, troll.

Nobody hates Khazar decended Jews.

Our issue is with you spreading nazi propaganda that ALL (not a tiny few as is the case) Ashkenazim are Khazars as a cloaked attempt to delegitimise the historic Jewish rights to the Land of Israel.

We ain't dumb!!!!
Newman is right! We ALL know that the Khazar upper class converted but it was such a small group. No one denies that it happened and converts are 100% Jewish.
But is IS a nazi lie to call ALL Ashkenazi Jews descendants of Khazars. THAT is going too far and I don't believe any what manhig Yisroel states. NOTHING, I am conviced about him now!

Ban the sonnovabitch.
Title: Re: Should Gentile races stay pure?
Post by: Manhig Yisroel on November 06, 2007, 02:58:41 AM
I am not arguing AGAINST Ashkenazim! Where do you get the idea that I am arguing AGAINST Ashkenazim? There is nothing WRONG with being of Khazarian descent!

Jews do not have a HISTORICAL right to Israel. Jews have a MORAL right to Israel. I do not argue for Israel's existence on HISTORICAL grounds. I argue for Israel on MORAL grounds.

Yes, you are dumb if you think I am a Nazi by now. You are dumb because you haven't even researched the matter of the Khazars and yet you make judgments. You are all ill-informed. I am not a Nazi and it is not a lie. It is my opinion about history.

Read Koestler's book. Then get back to me when you have actually educated yourselves on the issue.
Title: Re: Should Gentile races stay pure?
Post by: Manhig Yisroel on November 06, 2007, 03:01:00 AM
I challenge anyone to a test to see who knows more about Judaism, and who is the tzadik amongst us.
Title: Re: Should Gentile races stay pure?
Post by: Mstislav on November 06, 2007, 03:03:16 AM
You claim to not be a Nazi, yet believe in superior/inferior race ideology coming from Nazis.
Title: Re: Should Gentile races stay pure?
Post by: Kiwi on November 06, 2007, 03:04:08 AM
I challenge anyone to a test to see who knows more about Judaism, and who is the tzadik amongst us.

Manhig can i suggest to step back from your computer have a coffee, tea , milk water anything you wish and rethink that you will get banned by the behavour you are showing.

Title: Re: Should Gentile races stay pure?
Post by: Kiwi on November 06, 2007, 03:05:53 AM
You claim to not be a Nazi, yet believe in superior/inferior race ideology coming from Nazis.

I believe in that and I am not a Nazi.
Title: Re: Should Gentile races stay pure?
Post by: newman on November 06, 2007, 03:06:15 AM


Jews do not have a HISTORICAL right to Israel.

That proves it!

That's the whole Khazar theory ploy. Remove the legitimate historical right of Jews to the Land of Israel (but cover your tracks by claiming a moral right.)

This reduces the whole argument in favour of a Jewish State to a 'some place to live' issue and leaves the door open for the counter claim by the (so-called) p*lestinians and an offer for Jews to settle in Uganda!

BAN THIS SOB NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Should Gentile races stay pure?
Post by: Manhig Yisroel on November 06, 2007, 03:09:25 AM
Nothing that I have said -- NOT ONE THING -- is anti-Semitic. We just disagree about history. You people need to know how to tell the difference between a historical disagreement and anti-Semitism.

As for me, I have had just about enough of this back-and-forth with people who are historically ignorant, illogical, rude, and disrespectful. I had higher expectations for this forum, considering that I am such a fan of JTF.

What you people are doing is what is called "friendly fire." Keep it up, and I will have to create my own organization which doesn't whine over silly historical disagreements: one which treats people respectfully.
Title: Re: Should Gentile races stay pure?
Post by: Mstislav on November 06, 2007, 03:10:50 AM
You claim to not be a Nazi, yet believe in superior/inferior race ideology coming from Nazis.

I believe in that and I am not a Nazi.

Even Chaim has said that culture determines superiority/inferiority. Manhig Yisroel even said that people are foolish for being attracted to someone of another race. Yet another part of the superior/inferior race ideology from the Nazis.
Title: Re: Should Gentile races stay pure?
Post by: Mstislav on November 06, 2007, 03:12:04 AM
Nothing that I have said -- NOT ONE THING -- is anti-Semitic. We just disagree about history. You people need to know how to tell the difference between a historical disagreement and anti-Semitism.

As for me, I have had just about enough of this back-and-forth with people who are historically ignorant, illogical, rude, and disrespectful. I had higher expectations for this forum, considering that I am such a fan of JTF.

What you people are doing is what is called "friendly fire." Keep it up, and I will have to create my own organization which doesn't whine over silly historical disagreements: one which treats people respectfully.

What sources did you study?
Title: Re: Should Gentile races stay pure?
Post by: newman on November 06, 2007, 03:14:14 AM


What you people are doing is what is called "friendly fire." Keep it up, and I will have to create my own organization which doesn't whine over silly historical disagreements: one which treats people respectfully.

Please do!!!!

Go and start the "Silly buggers, nazis and all 'round dumb sh*ts' Forum"

 :::D
Title: Re: Should Gentile races stay pure?
Post by: Kiwi on November 06, 2007, 03:20:00 AM
You claim to not be a Nazi, yet believe in superior/inferior race ideology coming from Nazis.

I believe in that and I am not a Nazi.

Even Chaim has said that culture determines superiority/inferiority. Manhig Yisroel even said that people are foolish for being attracted to someone of another race. Yet another part of the superior/inferior race ideology from the Nazis.

As I said separatists views it that and that only. Separatists are not Nazis, they are a very different form of nationalist.

But its quite clear once again I am never listened to I will retire form this debate.
Title: Re: Should Gentile races stay pure?
Post by: Mstislav on November 06, 2007, 03:21:59 AM
You claim to not be a Nazi, yet believe in superior/inferior race ideology coming from Nazis.

I believe in that and I am not a Nazi.

Even Chaim has said that culture determines superiority/inferiority. Manhig Yisroel even said that people are foolish for being attracted to someone of another race. Yet another part of the superior/inferior race ideology from the Nazis.

As I said separatists views it that and that only. Separatists are not Nazis, they are a very different form of nationalist.

But its quite clear once again I am never listened to I will retire form this debate.

Separatist? That one is new to me. Please explain.
Title: Re: Should Gentile races stay pure?
Post by: Kiwi on November 06, 2007, 03:56:43 AM
You claim to not be a Nazi, yet believe in superior/inferior race ideology coming from Nazis.

I believe in that and I am not a Nazi.

Even Chaim has said that culture determines superiority/inferiority. Manhig Yisroel even said that people are foolish for being attracted to someone of another race. Yet another part of the superior/inferior race ideology from the Nazis.

As I said separatists views it that and that only. Separatists are not Nazis, they are a very different form of nationalist.

But its quite clear once again I am never listened to I will retire form this debate.

Separatist? That one is new to me. Please explain.

Separatist is the easiest thing to work out by name alone, every race remains separate, black to black, asians to asians, whites to whites. And genetics and cultures remain intact.

Non eof this race mixing, culture is lost. Take New Zealand. Moaris mixed with Whites, whites don't except the half cast the Moaris don't except them either. they become a sub race with no culture no nothing.

Now biggest different is, a Nazi that hates Jews and all non aryans.

A separatist can be of any race, any culture, and not hating everyone and can live in the world with other races and cultures as long as they stay there they are meant to be, and no mixing.

Such as Africa for the Africans, China for the Chinese, Middle East for Middle Easterners. etc.

Only time Separatists get aggressive is when a race or culture trys to interfere with them, such as the muslims do.

Therefore is a remove of that threat is required.



Title: Re: Should Gentile races stay pure?
Post by: newman on November 06, 2007, 04:04:45 AM
Nothing nazi about separatism.

Nazism and rascism are hatered of other races just because of their race and the view that other races are inherently inferior due to physical features only.

Separatism has NOTHING to do with hate. It just recognises that different races and cultures all have value and should remain un-mixed to maintain global diversity and individual national character. I don't want the Japanese mixed out existance. They're the only people who make affordable, reliable cars. I don't want Italians mixed out of existance as they do beautiful sculpture and design work. Get the idea?
Title: Re: Should Gentile races stay pure?
Post by: Mstislav on November 06, 2007, 04:13:38 AM
You claim to not be a Nazi, yet believe in superior/inferior race ideology coming from Nazis.

I believe in that and I am not a Nazi.

Even Chaim has said that culture determines superiority/inferiority. Manhig Yisroel even said that people are foolish for being attracted to someone of another race. Yet another part of the superior/inferior race ideology from the Nazis.

As I said separatists views it that and that only. Separatists are not Nazis, they are a very different form of nationalist.

But its quite clear once again I am never listened to I will retire form this debate.

Separatist? That one is new to me. Please explain.

Separatist is the easiest thing to work out by name alone, every race remains separate, black to black, asians to asians, whites to whites. And genetics and cultures remain intact.

Non eof this race mixing, culture is lost. Take New Zealand. Moaris mixed with Whites, whites don't except the half cast the Moaris don't except them either. they become a sub race with no culture no nothing.

Now biggest different is, a Nazi that hates Jews and all non aryans.

A separatist can be of any race, any culture, and not hating everyone and can live in the world with other races and cultures as long as they stay there they are meant to be, and no mixing.

Such as Africa for the Africans, China for the Chinese, Middle East for Middle Easterners. etc.

Only time Separatists get aggressive is when a race or culture trys to interfere with them, such as the muslims do.

Therefore is a remove of that threat is required.

Ahh ic now. Thanks. I used to be kind of like that at one point. I have always had friends of different races, ethnicities and nationalities. I used to be against interracial/interethnic relationships but softend my stance as the years passed. Now it does not matter to me as long as there are enough of the original population to reproduce and not go extinct.
Title: Re: Should Gentile races stay pure?
Post by: Mstislav on November 06, 2007, 04:15:30 AM
Nothing nazi about separatism.

Nazism and rascism are hatered of other races just because of their race and the view that other races are inherently inferior due to physical features only.

Separatism has NOTHING to do with hate. It just recognises that different races and cultures all have value and should remain un-mixed to maintain global diversity and individual national character. I don't want the Japanese mixed out existance. They're the only people who make affordable, reliable cars. I don't want Italians mixed out of existance as they do beautiful sculpture and design work. Get the idea?

Ja
Title: Re: Should Gentile races stay pure?
Post by: newman on November 06, 2007, 04:22:12 AM
If I want a fine, safe bluewater yacht, I want the scandanavian Folkboat.

If I want a faultlessly reliable car I want a Japanese Honda or Subaru.

If I want beautiful tiles for my home I want Italian.

If I want fine linen, I want Irish.

If I want the best dam or floating oil rig, I'll get the Dutch to engineer it.

If the worlds population becomes a big, colourless, non-individual slop we'll have NONE of the above.
Title: Re: Should Gentile races stay pure?
Post by: Kiwi on November 06, 2007, 04:29:16 AM
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If I want beautiful tiles for my home I want Italian.

I agree they do great flooring  :)
Title: Re: Should Gentile races stay pure?
Post by: newman on November 06, 2007, 04:31:47 AM
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If I want beautiful tiles for my home I want Italian.

I agree they do great flooring  :)

But they can stick their rusting, unreliable cars where the italian sun don't shine! :::D
Title: Re: Should Gentile races stay pure?
Post by: Kiwi on November 06, 2007, 04:33:47 AM
Ahh ic now. Thanks. I used to be kind of like that at one point. I have always had friends of different races, ethnicities and nationalities. I used to be against interracial/interethnic relationships but softend my stance as the years passed. Now it does not matter to me as long as there are enough of the original population to reproduce and not go extinct.

I think age does change they way we view the world, and experiences in it.

Some are more set than others.


Title: Re: Should Gentile races stay pure?
Post by: Kiwi on November 06, 2007, 04:34:56 AM
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If I want beautiful tiles for my home I want Italian.

I agree they do great flooring  :)

But they can stick their rusting, unreliable cars where the italian sun don't shine! :::D

I have never owned an Italian car only Australian made.  ^-^
Title: Re: Should Gentile races stay pure?
Post by: Mstislav on November 06, 2007, 04:35:05 AM
If the worlds population becomes a big, colourless, non-individual slop we'll have NONE of the above.

I too think that the world's population being colourless and non individual will be a terrible thing.
Title: Re: Should Gentile races stay pure?
Post by: White Israelite on November 08, 2007, 07:20:07 PM
You claim to not be a Nazi, yet believe in superior/inferior race ideology coming from Nazis.

I believe in that and I am not a Nazi.

Even Chaim has said that culture determines superiority/inferiority. Manhig Yisroel even said that people are foolish for being attracted to someone of another race. Yet another part of the superior/inferior race ideology from the Nazis.

As I said separatists views it that and that only. Separatists are not Nazis, they are a very different form of nationalist.

But its quite clear once again I am never listened to I will retire form this debate.

Separatist? That one is new to me. Please explain.

I am a Separatist, I am also Jewish. I only date Jews of the same race as me.
Title: Re: Should Gentile races stay pure?
Post by: Mstislav on November 08, 2007, 07:22:16 PM
You claim to not be a Nazi, yet believe in superior/inferior race ideology coming from Nazis.

I believe in that and I am not a Nazi.



Even Chaim has said that culture determines superiority/inferiority. Manhig Yisroel even said that people are foolish for being attracted to someone of another race. Yet another part of the superior/inferior race ideology from the Nazis.

As I said separatists views it that and that only. Separatists are not Nazis, they are a very different form of nationalist.

But its quite clear once again I am never listened to I will retire form this debate.

Separatist? That one is new to me. Please explain.

I am a Separatist, I am also Jewish. I only date Jews of the same race as me.

Jews are only supposed to go with other Jews, so no surprise there.
Title: Re: Should Gentile races stay pure?
Post by: Mstislav on November 08, 2007, 10:32:52 PM
I am a Separatist, I am also Jewish. I only date Jews of the same race as me.

On what grounds?


I also only date Jews of the same race as me but Ashkenazim and Sefaradim belong to the same race.

It is a personal choice, nothing to get worked up about.
Title: Re: Should Gentile races stay pure?
Post by: Kiwi on November 08, 2007, 11:38:52 PM
You claim to not be a Nazi, yet believe in superior/inferior race ideology coming from Nazis.

I believe in that and I am not a Nazi.

Even Chaim has said that culture determines superiority/inferiority. Manhig Yisroel even said that people are foolish for being attracted to someone of another race. Yet another part of the superior/inferior race ideology from the Nazis.

As I said separatists views it that and that only. Separatists are not Nazis, they are a very different form of nationalist.

But its quite clear once again I am never listened to I will retire form this debate.

Separatist? That one is new to me. Please explain.

I am a Separatist, I am also Jewish. I only date Jews of the same race as me.

And theres nothing wrong with that.  ;)
Title: Re: Should Gentile races stay pure?
Post by: Ambiorix on November 08, 2007, 11:48:23 PM
You claim to not be a Nazi, yet believe in superior/inferior race ideology coming from Nazis.

I believe in that and I am not a Nazi.

Even Chaim has said that culture determines superiority/inferiority. Manhig Yisroel even said that people are foolish for being attracted to someone of another race. Yet another part of the superior/inferior race ideology from the Nazis.

As I said separatists views it that and that only. Separatists are not Nazis, they are a very different form of nationalist.

But its quite clear once again I am never listened to I will retire form this debate.

Separatist? That one is new to me. Please explain.

I am a Separatist, I am also Jewish. I only date Jews of the same race as me.

And theres nothing wrong with that.  ;)

I only want a woman that gives birth to children of my own race.
All the rest I refuse.
Title: Re: Should Gentile races stay pure?
Post by: Ambiorix on November 09, 2007, 12:10:40 AM
Chinese, Japanese , Jewish,  European, are superior races. IQ is higher than average other races. % Civilisation is embedded in genes!

They should avoid mixing with low-IQ races. Technically mixing between Chinese, Japanese , Jewish,  European, Arabs  has already taken place a little bit.

But we should never encourage it. Liking your own genes most is a sacred duty.
Therefore all politicians in the Western World who support mass-immigration, and racial mixing , are to be removed from power.
I am not a Nazi, I don't want other high or low IQ races dead. I just want  to prevent losing my race, and its purity.

Socialists who claim "there is only one Human Race", are to be shot at sight. They praise Human Diversity by attempting to destroy that very diversity.
We should have no mercy with them at any time.

I respect some Indian (priest cast), Persian (non-muslim) to be superior as well.

Arabs loose IQ-potential by worshipping satan-allah. They are less than 100IQ due to their own fault.

Africans are IQ-inferior. But have adequate survival techniques for the environment they live in.
The Congo-blacks IQ=85 almost destroyed the Bushmen IQ=75.
Aren't Aboriginals of Australia IQ=65?
Title: Re: Should Gentile races stay pure?
Post by: Iron Greek on November 09, 2007, 12:56:34 AM
You make a point but there is a flaw in your reasoning
think about pre christianity
The europeans were advancing
Africa was not
Yacov that is a very good statement but race does have much do do with the advancement and IQ of people
I know you dont want any race to seem superior/inferior because you are a positive good person
But as much as someone could be affended about this it is the truth and there is nothing we can do about it or say about it
But your right if Islam is involved in a race/culture no matter how superior they are or progressive Islam will destroy all attributes because that religion has people in a lockdown basically all under the same exact program no matter who they are because that religion makes there culture. Any islam no matter what race/people they belong to will think the same and will follow the same thing.
Title: Re: Should Gentile races stay pure?
Post by: newman on November 09, 2007, 01:30:05 AM
Personal choices about who one lives amongst or who one marries are NOT racsism.

Just because I don't want jungle music at 2AM and prefer to live amonst other whites or don't want children/grandchildren with big noses, dark skin or fuzzy hair isn't racsist. I don't want non-whites gassed or shot because of their skin colour. I want them free, happy and alive but in their own lands, NOT in my country
Title: Re: Should Gentile races stay pure?
Post by: Ambiorix on November 09, 2007, 01:34:14 AM
I know what you mean. I don not 100 % agree with this view.
Brains, people of (average) Jews and (average) Congolese will not in a 10.000 years produce the same culture. You may try , I will not stop you...
Give them full citizenship in Israel of 5 years of converting to Judaism, and after 10 years your country is bankrupt. After 100 years it is gone.

What do you think of Etiopian Falasha? Are they on this forum? Can I communicate with them? Are all Ashkenazim truly happy about their arrival in Israel?
You think the 1000 generations of your Jewish forefathers are equal to (non-Jew) blacks. And that we can turn (non-Jew) blacks into equal people as you in only 4-10 generations?
Well why didn't that happen already then??
Why is every 20 years that blacks are 3world people grow here, turning our countries , morality down , then?
What a argument is this Alan Keys? How much African Americans does he really represent?
Is he going to convince his people to become "cultural" as we are, and gradually, the crime-rate will decline??
I don't think so. We must live apart. Or "we" shall be no more.

My point is that now days, the western or far-Eastern (Japan) cultures we have, are indeed superior to some other cultures.
Even if another culture is superior in some ways to mine, I'll always defend mine. I am an isolationist.
Cultures are forged by the people, and environment.
Replace the people or the environment and you have another culture.
Jews are the rare exceptions for this phenomenon. No?

If we end up mixing together (Cultural) there is no problem. The choice to mix racially, is one I however disagree with. But the children born from marriages between Europeans and e.g. Persians, will give quite high-IQ-kids. Some refugees from Iran, I know quite a lot of hem, and they seem to be very intelligent , lots of them. I will have kids with some intelligent woman of my own kind. That's avoiding problems.

The culture of Africa, or the people called blacks, are destroying Europe, by their presence here.
More precise: the unwillingness of the establishment , not to let them fully assimilate, in the name of cultural diversity.

I do believe that kids of Blacks (...) get average lower IQ, born&living in the same environment as we do.
I believe their genes give them other advantages, that make them physically stronger, but less intelligent.
Hordes of new African "Europeans" I see very day,  their behaviour it is not purely cultural. Unfortunately.
The only solution is to stop the colonisation. Stop the wishful thinking, and respect them as they are, but preferably, in their own continent.

Arabs, I do think they have full potential. Note that this is hypothetical, since they are largely islamic. They don't assimilate much, they want to conquer.

Is Alan Keys 100% black, or is he a 20% white? Did he live in Africa, or in the U.S.A.?
What is his position on 3d world immigration to the Western World?
Title: Re: Should Gentile races stay pure?
Post by: Iron Greek on November 09, 2007, 02:11:59 AM
The only real place where the black are starting to really come into play in europe is west europe around the British Isles/ france in that area
The british are wimps and they kiss butt to everyone so they let everyone in
Title: Re: Should Gentile races stay pure?
Post by: Mstislav on November 09, 2007, 10:28:33 AM
Personal choices about who one lives amongst or who one marries are NOT racsism.

Just because I don't want jungle music at 2AM and prefer to live amonst other whites or don't want children/grandchildren with big noses, dark skin or fuzzy hair isn't racsist. I don't want non-whites gassed or shot because of their skin colour. I want them free, happy and alive but in their own lands, NOT in my country

Would you accept non muslim - non whites in Australia from cultures not like that of schvartzas?
Title: Re: Should Gentile races stay pure?
Post by: newman on November 09, 2007, 10:31:19 AM
Personal choices about who one lives amongst or who one marries are NOT racsism.

Just because I don't want jungle music at 2AM and prefer to live amonst other whites or don't want children/grandchildren with big noses, dark skin or fuzzy hair isn't racsist. I don't want non-whites gassed or shot because of their skin colour. I want them free, happy and alive but in their own lands, NOT in my country

Would you accept non muslim - non whites in Australia from cultures not like that of schvartzas?

Indians and Chinese (for example) in numbers not sufficient to overwhelm our culture and resources, yes.
Title: Re: Should Gentile races stay pure?
Post by: MarZutra on November 09, 2007, 10:35:13 AM
Wait brother...  Wait until your cities look like Vancouver..more accurately named "HONGcouver".  G-d forbid if there is a war with the Chinese, Indians, Muslims or even any escapade into Africa... Canada would be in trouble thanks to its inept embracement of "multi-culturalism".

PS: Again...this thread was started by a Nazis Stormfronter who I debated and made a fool of and is now gone... 
Title: Re: Should Gentile races stay pure?
Post by: Mstislav on November 09, 2007, 10:39:38 AM
Personal choices about who one lives amongst or who one marries are NOT racsism.

Just because I don't want jungle music at 2AM and prefer to live amonst other whites or don't want children/grandchildren with big noses, dark skin or fuzzy hair isn't racsist. I don't want non-whites gassed or shot because of their skin colour. I want them free, happy and alive but in their own lands, NOT in my country

Would you accept non muslim - non whites in Australia from cultures not like that of schvartzas?

Indians and Chinese (for example) in numbers not sufficient to overwhelm our culture and resources, yes.

Indians and Chinese are hard working and place high values on education. No assimilation problems with them. Immigration is okay in small numbers to not overwhealm the host culture and as long as immigrants assimilate. You agree? What about retaining some aspects from the native culture as long as it does not conflict with the host culture?
Title: Re: Should Gentile races stay pure?
Post by: Mstislav on November 09, 2007, 10:42:26 AM
Wait brother...  Wait until your cities look like Vancouver..more accurately named "HONGcouver".  G-d forbid if there is a war with the Chinese, Indians, Muslims or even any escapade into Africa... Canada would be in trouble thanks to its inept embracement of "multi-culturalism".

PS: Again...this thread was started by a Nazis Stormfronter who I debated and made a fool of and is now gone... 

Should there be a war, any people from the hostile nation and their children born in Canada who causes trouble should be interned and deported or sent to do labour.
Title: Re: Should Gentile races stay pure?
Post by: Kiwi on November 10, 2007, 07:33:10 PM
Personal choices about who one lives amongst or who one marries are NOT racsism.

Just because I don't want jungle music at 2AM and prefer to live amonst other whites or don't want children/grandchildren with big noses, dark skin or fuzzy hair isn't racsist. I don't want non-whites gassed or shot because of their skin colour. I want them free, happy and alive but in their own lands, NOT in my country

Would you accept non muslim - non whites in Australia from cultures not like that of schvartzas?

Indians and Chinese (for example) in numbers not sufficient to overwhelm our culture and resources, yes.

Indians and Chinese are hard working and place high values on education. No assimilation problems with them. Immigration is okay in small numbers to not overwhealm the host culture and as long as immigrants assimilate. You agree? What about retaining some aspects from the native culture as long as it does not conflict with the host culture?

Many Chinese are commies, lot of Indians are muslims or pro-Islam, and support Iran in their push to destroy Israel.

China is not or friend either is Indian, the only saving grace with India there is a lot of supporters that will come our way.

Each foreign National is a risk.

Immigration needs to be reviewed massively here. If you are non-white you are given a key to Australia.

Cut of for white Americans is 45years old regardless of skill set.

Its harder for a white young Spanish man to come than a Black African mother, no money not skills and 50 of their screaming kids.
Title: Re: Should Gentile races stay pure?
Post by: Lisa on November 10, 2007, 07:38:45 PM
Folks, JTF's position is that people have free will, and are not slaves to their genes. 

The problem Chaim has with many blacks and Hispanics is that their *culture* is evil.  He doesn't like the fact that they *choose* to drop out of school and have babies out of wedlock.  He doesn't like the fact that for many of the these people, getting good grades, getting a good job, and staying married is seen as being "white." And I see where he's coming from. 

There are smart, good blacks, like Alan Keyes, Mychal Massie, Thomas Sowell, Larry Elder, Star Parker, Walter Williams and LaShawn Barber. Sowell, and Ms. Barber, just so you know, are against illegal immigration. 

On the other hand, I don't think we can completely ignore the IQ element.  For example, if it's ONLY a matter of following an evil culture, then how do you explain the fact that many minorities choose to follow this culture?  Is it just peer pressure?  Or is it IQ?  Personally, I think it's a combination of the two. 
Title: Re: Should Gentile races stay pure?
Post by: newman on November 11, 2007, 12:04:39 AM
As Alf Garnett said about immigration...................

"Everyone should stay in the country they were born in......or the country we put 'em in when we had our empire!"  :::D
Title: Re: Should Gentile races stay pure?
Post by: newman on November 11, 2007, 12:17:05 AM
As Alf Garnett said about immigration...................

"Everyone should stay in the country they were born in......or the country we put 'em in when we had our empire!"  :::D
 

You mean the alien from the TV show?



No. Alf Garnett was the British TV inspiration for America's Archie Bunker.
Title: Re: Should Gentile races stay pure?
Post by: kellymaureen on November 11, 2007, 12:54:25 AM
Personal choices about who one lives amongst or who one marries are NOT racsism.

Just because I don't want jungle music at 2AM and prefer to live amonst other whites or don't want children/grandchildren with big noses, dark skin or fuzzy hair isn't racsist. I don't want non-whites gassed or shot because of their skin colour. I want them free, happy and alive but in their own lands, NOT in my country

Would you accept non muslim - non whites in Australia from cultures not like that of schvartzas?

Indians and Chinese (for example) in numbers not sufficient to overwhelm our culture and resources, yes.

Indians and Chinese are hard working and place high values on education. No assimilation problems with them. Immigration is okay in small numbers to not overwhealm the host culture and as long as immigrants assimilate. You agree? What about retaining some aspects from the native culture as long as it does not conflict with the host culture?

Many Chinese are commies, lot of Indians are muslims or pro-Islam, and support Iran in their push to destroy Israel.

China is not or friend either is Indian, the only saving grace with India there is a lot of supporters that will come our way.

Each foreign National is a risk.

Immigration needs to be reviewed massively here. If you are non-white you are given a key to Australia.

Cut of for white Americans is 45years old regardless of skill set.

Its harder for a white young Spanish man to come than a Black African mother, no money not skills and 50 of their screaming kids.

When I attended my immigration hearing in Canada, I was told by the interviewer "off the record" that if I didnt have connections (my ex husband  works for CSIS) that a 'jamacian with a murder record' would get in quicker than I, a white, educated, english speaking person would. ::)
Title: Re: Should Gentile races stay pure?
Post by: Kiwi on November 11, 2007, 03:05:18 AM


When I attended my immigration hearing in Canada, I was told by the interviewer "off the record" that if I didnt have connections (my ex husband  works for CSIS) that a 'jamacian with a murder record' would get in quicker than I, a white, educated, english speaking person would. ::)

Yup. But I am glad the US is different when I applied for my greencard, they interviewed me and told me, because I was a white western woman, well educated, and of childbearing years, not from an over populated country I would be put in the top 15 % of applications, 3 months later I was issued with a greencard.  ;)
Title: Re: Should Gentile races stay pure?
Post by: Mstislav on November 11, 2007, 03:20:23 AM
Personal choices about who one lives amongst or who one marries are NOT racsism.

Just because I don't want jungle music at 2AM and prefer to live amonst other whites or don't want children/grandchildren with big noses, dark skin or fuzzy hair isn't racsist. I don't want non-whites gassed or shot because of their skin colour. I want them free, happy and alive but in their own lands, NOT in my country

Would you accept non muslim - non whites in Australia from cultures not like that of schvartzas?

Indians and Chinese (for example) in numbers not sufficient to overwhelm our culture and resources, yes.

Indians and Chinese are hard working and place high values on education. No assimilation problems with them. Immigration is okay in small numbers to not overwhealm the host culture and as long as immigrants assimilate. You agree? What about retaining some aspects from the native culture as long as it does not conflict with the host culture?

Many Chinese are commies, lot of Indians are muslims or pro-Islam, and support Iran in their push to destroy Israel.

China is not or friend either is Indian, the only saving grace with India there is a lot of supporters that will come our way.

Each foreign National is a risk.

Immigration needs to be reviewed massively here. If you are non-white you are given a key to Australia.

Cut of for white Americans is 45years old regardless of skill set.

Its harder for a white young Spanish man to come than a Black African mother, no money not skills and 50 of their screaming kids.

When I attended my immigration hearing in Canada, I was told by the interviewer "off the record" that if I didnt have connections (my ex husband  works for CSIS) that a 'jamacian with a murder record' would get in quicker than I, a white, educated, english speaking person would. ::)

That is totally unfair, and people with murder records should not be allowed to immigrate into any country. 
Title: Re: Should Gentile races stay pure?
Post by: newman on November 11, 2007, 03:23:49 AM


That is totally unfair, and people with murder records should not be allowed to immigrate into any country. 

But to the twisted, liberal, left mind a turd worlder with a murder record is just an oppressed person venting rage at injustice and racsism caused by the white, western, hetrosexual, Judaic/christian male.
Title: Re: Should Gentile races stay pure?
Post by: JTFFan on November 18, 2007, 06:15:59 AM
If you really love the person and that person is righteous and very conservative I have no problem of what he or she is. Although, I think it's best if we preserve our religions, customs and traditions gentiles and jews.
Title: Re: Should Gentile races stay pure?
Post by: MarZutra on November 18, 2007, 09:51:19 AM


That is totally unfair, and people with murder records should not be allowed to immigrate into any country. 

But to the twisted, liberal, left mind a turd worlder with a murder record is just an oppressed person venting rage at injustice and racsism caused by the white, western, hetrosexual, Judaic/christian male.

Here is an article from Canada Free Press that I think will interest you...

Muslim violence, Islamists
A letter to the Right Honourable Stephen Harper, Prime Minister of Canada

By Gary Reid

Friday, January 12, 2007

I am writing to you about a terrible mental disorder. It has caused widespread problems throughout Western Europe and elsewhere in the world, and, although there are indications it has begun to manifest itself in Canada, it is not too late to tackle the problem and fix it before it spreads further.

About a year ago, 17 males were arrested in the Greater Toronto Area on charges of planning terrorism. Among other things, they wanted to cut your head off.

The police and intelligence services, at the press conference announcing the arrests, went out of their way to avoid saying the "M" word; i.e., Muslim. In an excess of political correctness they announced that these suspects "came from all sectors of society."

The truth was they were and are Islamists, and it is through their Islamist connections that they were able to overcome the difficulty of being "from all sectors of society" to organize a criminal plot. In saying this, I recognize that these charges remain to be proven in a court of law.

Some time after their arrests, e-mail messages that had passed amongst their wives and girlfriends were published in newspapers. The women agreed that Canada is "a filthy country", meaning it is not an Islamic state, and they agreed that Muslims should not participate in the exercise of democracy in Canada. They are also Islamists.

Before you became Prime Minister, your predecessor, Paul Martin, informed us that the Khadr family, another bunch of Islamists from Pakistan, were entitled to return to this country and take advantage of its free health care system because they are Canadian citizens, notwithstanding the fact that the matriarch and her daughters said contemptuous things about Canada and openly support Osama bin Laden's goal for an Islamist caliphate over the entire globe.

The American Middle East expert, Dr. Daniel Pipes has dubbed the Khadrs as Canada's "first family of terrorism."

This past week, the Toronto Star, carried a story headlined, Top Islamist ponders return. Apparently, Mr. Abdullahi Afrah, who for several years was a grocer in Toronto, and who is both a Somalian and Canadian citizen, went back to Somalia and became a major figure in a temporary Islamic government in that country, enforcing a Taliban-like control of the populace.

The Union of Islamic Courts, Mr. Afrah's government, was recently chased away by an Ethiopian army sent to protect the United Nations' approved government.

What is interesting about this is that Mr. Afrah, having spent enough time in Canada to gain citizenship, did not see the value of our liberal democracy as a model for the new government of Somalia. He would rather have one that imposes the strictest of interpretations of the Sharia, because his loyalty is to Islam and not to any nation-state, and certainly not to Canada.

In light of this, I have a question. What are we doing in Afghanistan?

Our soldiers are being killed by Islamists. We label the enemy militia as the Taliban, but the fact is that they are Islamist Afghans. They want to impose a strict Islamic theocracy on the country. Of course, you can point to United Nations backing, NATO participation, democracy building, terrorism prevention, and a host of utilitarian reasons why we are there and doing what we are doing, but, the most fundamental reason is that we are killing Afghans because they are Islamists.

So, I have another question. Is Islamism an enemy of Canada?

If so, then what are we doing permitting the likes of the Kadhrs and Afrahs, and some of the 17 charged terrorist plotters, and perhaps many others, to become citizens of our country, and to remain so when their Islamism is revealed?

If not, then why have we unleashed our soldiers to kill Islamists in Afghanistan and to be killed in turn by them?

Generally, a foreigner cannot immigrate to Canada if he or she is infected with HIV, for obvious reasons. Islamism is a virus of the mind. It is spread throughout Canada by its host, Islam. It is just as dangerous to the welfare of our liberal democracy as HIV is to public health.

Why do we protect Canadians from the AIDS virus but not from Islamism?

Global estimates of the number of Islamists suggest that about 10% of Muslims have this disease. If Islamism is widely dispersed amongst Muslims globally, that would imply that Canada currently harbours about 50,000 people infected with it. Islamism is also the fastest growing cult within the wider religion of Islam.

Isn't it time that Canada formulated a consistent and effective policy for confronting and curing Islamism, not just in Afghanistan, but here at home?
Title: Re: Should Gentile races stay pure?
Post by: Nora on December 30, 2007, 10:00:54 AM
I have another question. I am of mostly German descent, should I breed?
Irrespective of your ethnicity, no you shouldn't. People who don't know that Persians are not Europeans generally shouldn't.  ;)
Title: Re: Should Gentile races stay pure?
Post by: Kiwi on December 30, 2007, 07:50:58 PM
I have another question. I am of mostly German descent, should I breed?
Irrespective of your ethnicity, no you shouldn't. People who don't know that Persians are not Europeans generally shouldn't.  ;)

I sorry lost you on that one. :-\

Are you using Europeans as being born in Europe? Or  Europeans  meaning white?

And do you have a problem with Persians?

 :)
Title: Re: Should Gentile races stay pure?
Post by: Kiwi on December 30, 2007, 10:25:21 PM
I have another question. I am of mostly German descent, should I breed?
Irrespective of your ethnicity, no you shouldn't. People who don't know that Persians are not Europeans generally shouldn't.  ;)

I sorry lost you on that one. :-\

Are you using Europeans as being born in Europe? Or  Europeans  meaning white?

And do you have a problem with Persians?

 :)

I think she is saying that Germans referred to themselves as "Aryans," whereas the real Aryans are from Northern Persia and not white Europe.

I got the message she told him NOT to breed, because he called Persians white. :-\
Title: Re: Should Gentile races stay pure?
Post by: Nora on December 31, 2007, 03:56:32 AM
I have another question. I am of mostly German descent, should I breed?
Irrespective of your ethnicity, no you shouldn't. People who don't know that Persians are not Europeans generally shouldn't.  ;)

I sorry lost you on that one. :-\

Are you using Europeans as being born in Europe? Or  Europeans  meaning white?

And do you have a problem with Persians?

 :)

Neither! I was refering to the first post in this thread where NoahideGentile says:
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And most of all, should Europeans or people of Euro descent (like persians, americans, etc..) only date other Europeans?
Although this was a joke, the tacky line that Persians are "Aryans" (whatever that is), which somehow seems to make them a better kind of Middle Easterners, drives me up the wall.
Title: Re: Should Gentile races stay pure?
Post by: Kiwi on December 31, 2007, 06:35:17 AM
I have another question. I am of mostly German descent, should I breed?
Irrespective of your ethnicity, no you shouldn't. People who don't know that Persians are not Europeans generally shouldn't.  ;)

I sorry lost you on that one. :-\

Are you using Europeans as being born in Europe? Or  Europeans  meaning white?

And do you have a problem with Persians?

 :)

Neither! I was refering to the first post in this thread where NoahideGentile says:
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And most of all, should Europeans or people of Euro descent (like persians, americans, etc..) only date other Europeans?
Although this was a joke, the tacky line that Persians are "Aryans" (whatever that is), which somehow seems to make them a better kind of Middle Easterners, drives me up the wall.

Why does it upset you? Are you ME?
Title: Re: Should Gentile races stay pure?
Post by: Nora on December 31, 2007, 07:52:42 AM
Why does it upset you? Are you ME?

It upsets me (maybe too strong a word, it irritates me would be perhaps more correct) because


And no, I am not from the ME, I am German, which may explain my hypersensitivity to this specific argument. Since the "Arification" of the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem (http://editrixblog.blogspot.com/2006/05/very-practical-and-attractive-religion.html) by the Nazis, a genocidal piece of human trash that is hopefully rotting in deepest hell, nothing should make be bristle anymore, but as it turns out, some things still do.
Title: Re: Should Gentile races stay pure?
Post by: mord on December 31, 2007, 09:35:16 AM
I'v seen some Persians and most do not in anyway look European.Indo Aryan is a language not a race or ethnic group so i guess i agree with Nora
Title: Re: Should Gentile races stay pure?
Post by: Nora on December 31, 2007, 03:23:45 PM
Great post, Nora. The Nazis also whitewashed the legitimacy of the Mufti by bringing a "doctor" to "check" him. What they "found" was that the monster was "almost Aryan," yay!

Thank you!

I find the Mufti one of the most despicable figures in history. If you go to YouTube you can watch a film produced by one of the public German TV channels about Hitler and the Mufti (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d51poygEXYU). The YouTube version was a joint effort by some bloggers, including myself. I have just left some comments there, my YouTube ID is edronc.

Here (http://editrixblog.blogspot.com/2006/07/hitler-and-mufti.html) is more.


Title: Re: Should Gentile races stay pure?
Post by: Kiwi on December 31, 2007, 04:26:34 PM
Why does it upset you? Are you ME?

It upsets me (maybe too strong a word, it irritates me would be perhaps more correct) because

    it gives a totally warped slant to history, if one compares a people SOME ancestors of which came from Europe more than 3000 years ago to Americans of European descent

    there simply ARE NO "Aryans". "Aryan" is the definition of a language group and not of a people (I know he hasn't used the term "Aryan", but the argument is the same, nevertheless)

    I have this argument (Persians are really Europeans or "Aryans") never heard from anybody else but white supremacists who want to "whitewash" (pun intended) their Jew-murdering allies in the Middle East

    I find most discussions (not all) of race distasteful and whereas I find that the world would be a happier place if people would stick to marrying those who are as close to them in appearance as possible (not to speak of other social, ethnic and religious aspects) I have yet to find the white supremacist whose primary target really is the "purity" of the white race and not Jew-bashing.

And no, I am not from the ME, I am German, which may explain my hypersensitivity to this specific argument. Since the "Arification" of the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem (http://editrixblog.blogspot.com/2006/05/very-practical-and-attractive-religion.html) by the Nazis, a genocidal piece of human trash that is hopefully rotting in deepest hell, nothing should make be bristle anymore, but as it turns out, some things still do.


No worries fair enough  O0

Tho minor points I differ but theres no surprise in that  ;D

Title: Re: Should Gentile races stay pure?
Post by: JTFFan on January 02, 2008, 01:20:57 AM
I'v seen some Persians and most do not in anyway look European.Indo Aryan is a language not a race or ethnic group so i guess i agree with Nora

That's because Persians aren't indigenous to Europe ;)

They are both muSSlim and live in the Middle East with their Arab muSSlim Nazi neighbors ;)
Title: Re: Should Gentile races stay pure?
Post by: Kiwi on January 02, 2008, 04:07:03 AM
There is a great deal of non mullah Persians
Title: Re: Should Gentile races stay pure?
Post by: Nora on January 02, 2008, 08:54:26 AM
There is a great deal of non mullah Persians

Skippy, I, for one, remember well the late Sixties, when Western educated women put on the tschador out of their own free will and supported that nasty old goat Khomeini. They wanted the mullahs, now they have them and if there really were a majority against that regime, they'd overthrown it long ago. No dictator can survive against the will of the people.

I remember, too, how the German left supported those anti-Shah Iranians on the strength of the sentiment that anybody who is against America must be good.

I may be not quite in the picture, but I always marvel at the fact that even people who condemn sweepingly (and rightfully so) the Arabs, find redeeming qualities in the Iranians. I have never found out why. Maybe you care to explain?

Title: Re: Should Gentile races stay pure?
Post by: Kiwi on January 02, 2008, 09:23:34 AM
Very simple Nora I have lived with them, and have seen countless Jewish Iranians, Christain Irainians swinging from their necks.

And if you have failed to notice Jews have been in Iran for over 2500 years, and Many Persians have tried to protect them.

To make the naive jump that all Irainians are Muslim, then I suggest you walk down any street there and careful not to trip on the white non muslim homeless.

And on a very personal side a Persian died protecting me, because of my beliefs.

Iran is at war with itself, Khomeini is hated by many there, its a country killing its people off faster than any war with the west could ever do.
Title: Re: Should Gentile races stay pure?
Post by: Ambiorix on January 02, 2008, 11:52:31 AM
I have another question. I am of mostly German descent, should I breed?
Irrespective of your ethnicity, no you shouldn't. People who don't know that Persians are not Europeans generally shouldn't.  ;)

I sorry lost you on that one. :-\

Are you using Europeans as being born in Europe? Or  Europeans  meaning white?

And do you have a problem with Persians?

 :)

Neither! I was refering to the first post in this thread where NoahideGentile says:
Quote
And most of all, should Europeans or people of Euro descent (like persians, americans, etc..) only date other Europeans?
Although this was a joke, the tacky line that Persians are "Aryans" (whatever that is), which somehow seems to make them a better kind of Middle Easterners, drives me up the wall.

In my opinion, based on contacts with 10 Iranians, I'd say this:

the first& 5 relatives were bahais. They were very Western, the father of the family worked in the jewel-business for two years, and then started his own business. The kids are artisan, manager in computer-firm, and students with 90% results.
 These people do not look as European whites. But are nevertheless having a closer resemblance then -generally- Kurds, Arabs, Berbers.
Interesting note : they never call their country "iran" but refer to it as "Persia".

than i knew a guy, who fled from Iraq, but his family was half sumni/half shiit.
He lived 13 years in Iran
He was an atheist, I remember he was fighting with a lot of muslim people who hated him, because he defected from islam. He in other words hated shiite islam so much, he hates religion now.

I met an Iranian phd. studying fysics in Belgium, who went to Church.
He was talking BS about Islam is peace, etc,...
Definetely smarter, and less-pain-in-the-ass than Arab intellectuals.
But for sure a higher takkkia-danger.

I know nothing about Jewish Iranians. but I guess you could compare them in a way with the bahai-family i know.

I also don't know what the Shah-regime was like.
Title: Re: Should Gentile races stay pure?
Post by: Ambiorix on January 02, 2008, 11:56:37 AM
There is a great deal of non mullah Persians

Skippy, I, for one, remember well the late Sixties, when Western educated women put on the tschador out of their own free will and supported that nasty old goat Khomeini. They wanted the mullahs, now they have them and if there really were a majority against that regime, they'd overthrown it long ago. No dictator can survive against the will of the people.

I remember, too, how the German left supported those anti-Shah Iranians on the strength of the sentiment that anybody who is against America must be good.

I may be not quite in the picture, but I always marvel at the fact that even people who condemn sweepingly (and rightfully so) the Arabs, find redeeming qualities in the Iranians. I have never found out why. Maybe you care to explain?


Leftist indeed defend all dictators that talk tough language against the US,
and for a certain reason they close their eyes then, because, these dictators are "on our side"
"our" means "left wig garbage "
Title: Re: Should Gentile races stay pure?
Post by: JTFFan on January 02, 2008, 04:01:37 PM
There is a great deal of non mullah Persians

Skippy, I, for one, remember well the late Sixties, when Western educated women put on the tschador out of their own free will and supported that nasty old goat Khomeini. They wanted the mullahs, now they have them and if there really were a majority against that regime, they'd overthrown it long ago. No dictator can survive against the will of the people.

I remember, too, how the German left supported those anti-Shah Iranians on the strength of the sentiment that anybody who is against America must be good.

I may be not quite in the picture, but I always marvel at the fact that even people who condemn sweepingly (and rightfully so) the Arabs, find redeeming qualities in the Iranians. I have never found out why. Maybe you care to explain?


Leftist indeed defend all dictators that talk tough language against the US,
and for a certain reason they close their eyes then, because, these dictators are "on our side"
"our" means "left wig garbage "

correct Ambiorix :) ;)
Title: Re: Should Gentile races stay pure?
Post by: Eurovox on January 08, 2008, 01:35:16 PM
My reply to the question of this topic, is quiet simple; YES, we, europeans, have the same right as jews to stay "pure" and to have an homogeneous comunity over our lands. Homogenity is harmony and progress, multiculturalism is multi racism and death.
Title: Re: Should Gentile races stay pure?
Post by: Ambiorix on January 08, 2008, 02:13:37 PM
My reply to the question of this topic, is quiet simple; YES, we, europeans, have the same right as jews to stay "pure" and to have an homogeneous comunity over our lands. Homogenity is harmony and progress, multiculturalism is multi racism and death.

Well  , the fact is that multiculturalism teaches the majority, the "owners" of th land, to hate this land, themselves, and to
give their land away to the (islamic/[censored]) occupiers.

Of course, if we would mix 50/50 with these scum of the earth, it would destroy our nations, as we know them.

Mixing with Chinese e.g. would be relatively harmless, in that respect.
Title: Re: Should Gentile races stay pure?
Post by: Eurovox on January 08, 2008, 05:01:30 PM
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Mixing with Chinese e.g. would be relatively harmless, in that respect.

Let say that it would be less ugly from an antropological perspective, but I see nothing positive in that, since world diversity is what makes the planet so interesting. Multiculturalism besides being an absurd is a crime against humanity, since it tries to mix all people in one single race, better to be producters/consumers, just like the bolsheviks imagined.   
Title: Re: Should Gentile races stay pure?
Post by: Ambiorix on January 09, 2008, 02:55:44 AM
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Mixing with Chinese e.g. would be relatively harmless, in that respect.

Let say that it would be less ugly from an antropological perspective, but I see nothing positive in that, since world diversity is what makes the planet so interesting. Multiculturalism besides being an absurd is a crime against humanity, since it tries to mix all people in one single race, better to be producters/consumers, just like the bolsheviks imagined.   

Indeed
Title: Re: Should Gentile races stay pure?
Post by: MarZutra on January 09, 2008, 11:18:57 AM
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Mixing with Chinese e.g. would be relatively harmless, in that respect.

Let say that it would be less ugly from an antropological perspective, but I see nothing positive in that, since world diversity is what makes the planet so interesting. Multiculturalism besides being an absurd is a crime against humanity, since it tries to mix all people in one single race, better to be producters/consumers, just like the bolsheviks imagined.   

Totally agreed.  There are many dictatorships that last due to their taking away any "will" of the people....  http://www.paulbogdanor.com/left.html
Title: Re: Should Gentile races stay pure?
Post by: spiritus_persona on February 21, 2008, 08:03:45 PM
I believe that each race should stay pure.  Only marry another of your own race.  Please don't call me racist or anything, I don't mean to be.
Title: Re: Should Gentile races stay pure?
Post by: MarZutra on February 21, 2008, 08:06:21 PM
I believe that each race should stay pure.  Only marry another of your own race.  Please don't call me racist or anything, I don't mean to be.
Not at all...  You just have a functioning brain and have pride in your culture and heritage.... O0
Title: Re: Should Gentile races stay pure?
Post by: MarZutra on February 22, 2008, 02:02:00 PM
I thought I might remind everyone that this thread was started by a StørmFrønt Nazi ignoramus.....
Title: What Do You Think Of Marrying Outside Your Ethnic Group?
Post by: Lisa on February 15, 2009, 11:27:50 AM
What do you think?