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Title: B''H, This Week's New JTF Videos (04/11)
Post by: Chaim Ben Pesach on April 11, 2008, 10:36:18 AM
                                                                                                  בס''ד

1. Iran, Not Iraq, Is The Real Threat
liveleak: http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=436_1207917245
flix: http://www.flix.co.il/tapuz/showVideo.asp?m=2473956
zootube (youtube): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTzU7rGXnbk
yideoz: http://www.yideoz.com/view_video.php?viewkey=f336ae6573e7e533570e

2. Obama Attends Farakhan Rally
liveleak: http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=048_1208189620
flix: http://www.flix.co.il/tapuz/showVideo.asp?m=2474089
zootube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivQYpE4YfKE
yideoz: http://www.yideoz.com/view_video.php?viewkey=a01dcb3f3b39685cdb4f

3. The Betrayal Of The Serbs
liveleak: http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=8e8_1208512354
flix: http://www.flix.co.il/tapuz/showVideo.asp?m=2474202
zootube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=skyBlgW5Lo4
yideoz: http://www.yideoz.com/view_video.php?viewkey=ac6a36849ba381feb9e8

Title: Re: B''H, This Week's New JTF Videos (04/11)
Post by: IslamIsCancer on April 11, 2008, 11:30:13 AM
Iran's nuclear program should have been destroyed many years ago not wait until they are almost done.
LOL at the ending, "they can swallow camel dung and sand" hahaha man make more such comments in your vids :)
They do eat camel dung after they have sex with camels.
Great job voted.
Title: Re: B''H, This Week's New JTF Videos (04/11)
Post by: IslamIsCancer on April 11, 2008, 11:49:35 AM
Chaim, I totally agree with you on morality and you are by far one of the most moral people I know but how can people put their trust on god that doesn't give a damn about anything? We both are genocide survivors and you know how much god cared and protected the weak and the innocent. Christians put their trust in god and refuse to fight because they believe they should love their enemy and turn the other cheek. You see according to Darwin only the fittest will survive and Christians don't look like they are the fittest. While there are some exceptions, most Christians are dhimmified and will by no means kill their enemies to survive.

But there's a counter argument, many people claim they survived the Ottoman rule and didn't assimilate and become cancer themselves because they strictly adhered to their faith. maybe Christians used to be strong and now they are weak?
Title: Re: B''H, This Week's New JTF Videos (04/11)
Post by: דוד בן זאב אריה on April 11, 2008, 12:22:18 PM
Great Vids. I like the one on Obama
Title: Re: B''H, This Week's New JTF Videos (04/11)
Post by: Ulli on April 11, 2008, 02:22:48 PM
Great videos. Thank you Chaim.
Title: Re: B''H, This Week's New JTF Videos (04/11)
Post by: 2honest on April 11, 2008, 03:03:59 PM
Thank you Chaim, you are truly a wise man.
Title: Re: B''H, This Week's New JTF Videos (04/11)
Post by: Ben Yehuda on April 11, 2008, 04:27:04 PM
The clan with a tan. I like that, mmhmmm. :::D :::D
Title: Re: B''H, This Week's New JTF Videos (04/11)
Post by: YimachShemotoIslam on April 11, 2008, 05:24:48 PM
Great vids, Chaim.

I'm watching the one on Iran.

Title: Re: B''H, This Week's New JTF Videos (04/11)
Post by: MassuhDGoodName on April 11, 2008, 06:25:00 PM
My opinion of him is that he is a complete "sell-out".

Now that he, thanks to the efforts of those like Chaim Ben Pesach and Rabbi Meir Kahane, is free in Israel, it would seem that he owes noone gratitude, has no time to help other Jews who helped him leave the Soviet Union, and is enjoying making lots of money.
Title: Re: B''H, This Week's New JTF Videos (04/11)
Post by: AsheDina on April 12, 2008, 09:36:57 PM
Chaim, I totally agree with you on morality and you are by far one of the most moral people I know but how can people put their trust on G-d that doesn't give a damn about anything? We both are genocide survivors and you know how much G-d cared and protected the weak and the innocent. Christians put their trust in G-d and refuse to fight because they believe they should love their enemy and turn the other cheek. You see according to Darwin only the fittest will survive and Christians don't look like they are the fittest. While there are some exceptions, most Christians are dhimmified and will by no means kill their enemies to survive.

But there's a counter argument, many people claim they survived the Ottoman rule and didn't assimilate and become cancer themselves because they strictly adhered to their faith. maybe Christians used to be strong and now they are weak?


~And you tell me that I would punish for blasphemy? I DONT understand YOU at all. We are on the same exact page. I DONT GET YOU. I am sorry, but I really do NOT understand WHAT you are driving at wit me AT ALL. I TOTALLY agree with Chaim, I really DO NOT understand YOU.
Title: Re: B''H, This Week's New JTF Videos (04/11)
Post by: Kahane-Was-Right BT on April 12, 2008, 09:56:35 PM
The video describing the threat of Iran was excellent.  I am impressed to see that Chaim and JTF knew what a disaster the Iraq war would be.
Title: Re: B''H, This Week's New JTF Videos (04/11)
Post by: JTFFan on April 13, 2008, 12:24:35 AM
excellent videos Chaim O0
Title: Re: B''H, This Week's New JTF Videos (04/11)
Post by: AsheDina on April 13, 2008, 12:52:58 AM
The video describing the threat of Iran was excellent.  I am impressed to see that Chaim and JTF knew what a disaster the Iraq war would be.

 ~I have always believed that Iran was a terrible threat as well, especially when Anwar Sadat got assasinated, for some reason, I always thought that Iranian terrorists did this. Maybe I am wrong, I dont know, but it seems to me that out of all of those 'nations' -Iran always seem to be the most clever (not saying this in a complimentary way at all, BTW)  I sit here and wonder just what is going on half of the time anyway, it seems like everything is in so much turmoil.
Title: Re: B''H, This Week's New JTF Videos (04/11)
Post by: IslamIsCancer on April 13, 2008, 10:36:51 AM
Chaim, I totally agree with you on morality and you are by far one of the most moral people I know but how can people put their trust on G-d that doesn't give a damn about anything? We both are genocide survivors and you know how much G-d cared and protected the weak and the innocent. Christians put their trust in G-d and refuse to fight because they believe they should love their enemy and turn the other cheek. You see according to Darwin only the fittest will survive and Christians don't look like they are the fittest. While there are some exceptions, most Christians are dhimmified and will by no means kill their enemies to survive.

But there's a counter argument, many people claim they survived the Ottoman rule and didn't assimilate and become cancer themselves because they strictly adhered to their faith. maybe Christians used to be strong and now they are weak?


~And you tell me that I would punish for blasphemy? I DONT understand YOU at all. We are on the same exact page. I DONT GET YOU. I am sorry, but I really do NOT understand WHAT you are driving at wit me AT ALL. I TOTALLY agree with Chaim, I really DO NOT understand YOU.

Morality has nothing to do with the Bible, people can be moral and immoral regardless of their religious beliefs. I'm analyzing the upsides and downsides of having a weak religion. Is a weak religion better than atheism or is it not?
Weak in terms of Darwinian survival.
Title: Re: B''H, This Week's New JTF Videos (04/11)
Post by: Dan on April 13, 2008, 11:54:42 AM
Really a Wonderful message for all to Listen to, Thanks Chaim!
Title: Re: B''H, This Week's New JTF Videos (04/11)
Post by: Dr. Dan on April 13, 2008, 01:15:08 PM
hehehe..youtube is silly...they took off the video as I was watching it!
Title: Re: B''H, This Week's New JTF Videos (04/11)
Post by: JR-Obilic on April 14, 2008, 04:51:42 AM
Thanks Chaim  O0
Title: Re: B''H, This Week's New JTF Videos (04/11)
Post by: RationalThought110 on April 15, 2008, 01:53:58 AM
My opinion of him is that he is a complete "sell-out".

Now that he, thanks to the efforts of those like Chaim Ben Pesach and Rabbi Meir Kahane, is free in Israel, it would seem that he owes noone gratitude, has no time to help other Jews who helped him leave the Soviet Union, and is enjoying making lots of money.


Avigdor Lieberman or someone else?
Title: Re: B''H, This Week's New JTF Videos (04/11)
Post by: vojvoda on April 15, 2008, 04:40:44 AM
Thanks for the video about Serbia, Chaim!  O0
Title: Re: B''H, This Week's New JTF Videos (04/11)
Post by: Masha on April 15, 2008, 05:58:40 AM
Is there any explanation as to why the 2nd and the 3rd video have been removed from youtube? I watched them and I saw absolutely nothing objectionable. Do they have to furnish an explanation with their "use violation" statement?
Title: Re: B''H, This Week's New JTF Videos (04/11)
Post by: Kerber on April 16, 2008, 11:01:24 AM
Yes,excellent videos as always.

YouTube already removed the second and the third video.
Title: Re: B''H, This Week's New JTF Videos (04/11)
Post by: Kerber on April 16, 2008, 11:03:56 AM
Is there any explanation as to why the 2nd and the 3rd video have been removed from youtube? I watched them and I saw absolutely nothing objectionable. Do they have to furnish an explanation with their "use violation" statement?
It seems that speaking the truth is the biggest "violation".
Title: Re: B''H, This Week's New JTF Videos (04/11)
Post by: DALMACIJA on April 16, 2008, 03:05:43 PM
3. The Betrayal Of The Serbs
flix: http://www.flix.co.il/tapuz/showVideo.asp?m=2474202
zootube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=skyBlgW5Lo4
yideoz: http://www.yideoz.com/view_video.php?viewkey=ac6a36849ba381feb9e8




Thanks Chaim  :)
Title: Re: B''H, This Week's New JTF Videos (04/11)
Post by: Ultra Requete on April 16, 2008, 06:11:40 PM
Chaim, I totally agree with you on morality and you are by far one of the most moral people I know but how can people put their trust on G-d that doesn't give a damn about anything? We both are genocide survivors and you know how much G-d cared and protected the weak and the innocent. Christians put their trust in G-d and refuse to fight because they believe they should love their enemy and turn the other cheek. You see according to Darwin only the fittest will survive and Christians don't look like they are the fittest. While there are some exceptions, most Christians are dhimmified and will by no means kill their enemies to survive.

But there's a counter argument, many people claim they survived the Ottoman rule and didn't assimilate and become cancer themselves because they strictly adhered to their faith. maybe Christians used to be strong and now they are weak?


~And you tell me that I would punish for blasphemy? I DONT understand YOU at all. We are on the same exact page. I DONT GET YOU. I am sorry, but I really do NOT understand WHAT you are driving at wit me AT ALL. I TOTALLY agree with Chaim, I really DO NOT understand YOU.

Morality has nothing to do with the Bible, people can be moral and immoral regardless of their religious beliefs. I'm analyzing the upsides and downsides of having a weak religion. Is a weak religion better than atheism or is it not?
Weak in terms of Darwinian survival.

Renember that Estern Christians like Amernians and Jews survived centuries under opressive muslim rule while atheist Budhists were wiped out clean. Enduring such hardships gives strenght so the trust in G-d providence.
Thank you Chaim for new videos, you're very wise man.   
Title: Re: B''H, This Week's New JTF Videos (04/11)
Post by: Minuteman on April 16, 2008, 11:24:03 PM
Chaim, I totally agree with you on morality and you are by far one of the most moral people I know but how can people put their trust on G-d that doesn't give a damn about anything? We both are genocide survivors and you know how much G-d cared and protected the weak and the innocent. Christians put their trust in G-d and refuse to fight because they believe they should love their enemy and turn the other cheek. You see according to Darwin only the fittest will survive and Christians don't look like they are the fittest. While there are some exceptions, most Christians are dhimmified and will by no means kill their enemies to survive.

But there's a counter argument, many people claim they survived the Ottoman rule and didn't assimilate and become cancer themselves because they strictly adhered to their faith. maybe Christians used to be strong and now they are weak?


~And you tell me that I would punish for blasphemy? I DONT understand YOU at all. We are on the same exact page. I DONT GET YOU. I am sorry, but I really do NOT understand WHAT you are driving at wit me AT ALL. I TOTALLY agree with Chaim, I really DO NOT understand YOU.

Morality has nothing to do with the Bible, people can be moral and immoral regardless of their religious beliefs. I'm analyzing the upsides and downsides of having a weak religion. Is a weak religion better than atheism or is it not?
Weak in terms of Darwinian survival.

Renember that Estern Christians like Amernians and Jews survived centuries under opressive muslim rule while atheist Budhists were wiped out clean. Enduring such hardships gives strenght so the trust in G-d providence.
Thank you Chaim for new videos, you're very wise man.   

"Love your enemies" I personally believe has been misinterpreted over the years.  Some Christians may disagree with me on this, but I don't believe loving your enemies was supposed to mean offering friendship to your enemy, not holding you enemy accountable, and/or not defending yourself or other innocents from your enemy.  What I as a Christian believe it means is to pray to God that He show your enemies how wrong they are in doing what they are doing and  also to pray that God shows them the way back to righteousness so that they are not lost.  I see the way God continually tries to reach people who have gone down the wrong paths. 



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Title: Re: B''H, This Week's New JTF Videos (04/11)
Post by: Masha on April 17, 2008, 03:33:59 AM
Somehow I think that "loving your enemy" is not supposed to mean national suicide. I think it has more to do with not being excessively vindictive and blood-thirsty but only doing what is necessary to dispose of your enemies.

I also once heard a knowledgeable Christian say that "loging your enemies" refers to personal enemies. It is a blueprint on how to deal with people within the society. OK, I am not qualified to make pronouncements about this. Let someone correct me if I am wrong.
Title: Re: B''H, This Week's New JTF Videos (04/11)
Post by: Ambiorix on April 17, 2008, 08:06:42 AM
"But I say to you, do not resist an evil person; but whoever slaps you on your right cheek, turn the other to him also."

I asked these questions not cause divisions amongst us, but because it is an important issue, that we need to address,
before somebody else comes in to divide us.
I see many Christians, who use these verses of the New Testament as an order to accept hostile, evil people to take over the Western World.

Is it righteous to stand idle when your brother is killed?

Here is an interpretation of a Catholic professor I found interesting:
Do you people think it is credible?

He said that people used to slap a slave on the right cheek with the back of their right hand.
Turning the left cheek, was an invitation of the slave to ask the master to punch him on the left cheek with the fist.
So they could fight as equals, not as master-slave.
If this is true, than it means we should fight our enemies with equal arms, and NOT play dhimmies.

I refer here to Christian scripture not to proselytize; but to put the quote in its context. (if anyone complains, I will remove it)
but to seek if the "self-hate" of Christianity is maybe a false interpretation,
that Marxist infiltrators of the Churches use,
to weaken our defense against satan.

I think an important message of Chaim is to urge Jews not to be self-haters,
so I wander what our Christian members think about the interpretation of these verses.



<< Matthew 5 >>
New American Standard Bible ©   
The Sermon on the Mount; The Beatitudes

1 When Jesus saw the crowds, He went up on the mountain; and after He sat down, His disciples came to Him. 2 He opened His mouth and began to teach them, saying,
3 “Blessed are the poor in spirit, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
4 “Blessed are those who mourn, for they shall be comforted.
5 “Blessed are the gentle, for they shall inherit the earth.
6 “Blessed are those who hunger and thirst for righteousness, for they shall be satisfied.
7 “Blessed are the merciful, for they shall receive mercy.
8 “Blessed are the pure in heart, for they shall see G-d.
9 “Blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall be called sons of G-d.
10 “Blessed are those who have been persecuted for the sake of righteousness, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
11 “Blessed are you when people insult you and persecute you, and falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of Me. 12 “Rejoice and be glad, for your reward in heaven is great; for in the same way they persecuted the prophets who were before you.
Disciples and the World
13 “You are the salt of the earth; but if the salt has become tasteless, how can it be made salty again? It is no longer good for anything, except to be thrown out and trampled under foot by men.
14 “You are the light of the world. A city set on a hill cannot be hidden; 15 nor does anyone light a lamp and put it under a basket, but on the lampstand, and it gives light to all who are in the house. 16 “Let your light shine before men in such a way that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father who is in heaven.
17 “Do not think that I came to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I did not come to abolish but to fulfill. 18 “For truly I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest letter or stroke shall pass from the Law until all is accomplished. 19 “Whoever then annuls one of the least of these commandments, and teaches others to do the same, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but whoever keeps and teaches them, he shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
20 “For I say to you that unless your righteousness surpasses that of the scribes and Pharisees, you will not enter the kingdom of heaven.
Personal Relationships
21 “You have heard that the ancients were told, ‘YOU SHALL NOT COMMIT MURDER’ and ‘Whoever commits murder shall be liable to the court.’ 22 “But I say to you that everyone who is angry with his brother shall be guilty before the court; and whoever says to his brother, ‘You good-for-nothing,’ shall be guilty before the supreme court; and whoever says, ‘You fool,’ shall be guilty enough to go into the fiery hell. 23 “Therefore if you are presenting your offering at the altar, and there remember that your brother has something against you, 24 leave your offering there before the altar and go; first be reconciled to your brother, and then come and present your offering. 25 “Make friends quickly with your opponent at law while you are with him on the way, so that your opponent may not hand you over to the judge, and the judge to the officer, and you be thrown into prison. 26 “Truly I say to you, you will not come out of there until you have paid up the last cent.
27 “You have heard that it was said, ‘YOU SHALL NOT COMMIT ADULTERY’; 28 but I say to you that everyone who looks at a woman with lust for her has already committed adultery with her in his heart. 29 “If your right eye makes you stumble, tear it out and throw it from you; for it is better for you to lose one of the parts of your body, than for your whole body to be thrown into hell. 30 “If your right hand makes you stumble, cut it off and throw it from you; for it is better for you to lose one of the parts of your body, than for your whole body to go into hell.
31 “It was said, ‘WHOEVER SENDS HIS WIFE AWAY, LET HIM GIVE HER A CERTIFICATE OF DIVORCE’; 32 but I say to you that everyone who divorces his wife, except for the reason of unchastity, makes her commit adultery; and whoever marries a divorced woman commits adultery.
33 “Again, you have heard that the ancients were told, ‘YOU SHALL NOT MAKE FALSE VOWS, BUT SHALL FULFILL YOUR VOWS TO THE LORD.’ 34 “But I say to you, make no oath at all, either by heaven, for it is the throne of G-d, 35 or by the earth, for it is the footstool of His feet, or by Jerusalem, for it is THE CITY OF THE GREAT KING. 36 “Nor shall you make an oath by your head, for you cannot make one hair white or black. 37 “But let your statement be, ‘Yes, yes’ or ‘No, no’; anything beyond these is of evil.
38 “You have heard that it was said, ‘AN EYE FOR AN EYE, AND A TOOTH FOR A TOOTH.’ 39 “But I say to you, do not resist an evil person; but whoever slaps you on your right cheek, turn the other to him also. 40 “If anyone wants to sue you and take your shirt, let him have your coat also. 41 “Whoever forces you to go one mile, go with him two. 42 “Give to him who asks of you, and do not turn away from him who wants to borrow from you.
43 “You have heard that it was said, ‘YOU SHALL LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR and hate your enemy.’ 44 “But I say to you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, 45 so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven; for He causes His sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous. 46 “For if you love those who love you, what reward do you have? Do not even the tax collectors do the same? 47 “If you greet only your brothers, what more are you doing than others? Do not even the Gentiles do the same? 48 “Therefore you are to be perfect, as your heavenly Father is perfect.

Title: Re: B''H, This Week's New JTF Videos (04/11)
Post by: Ultra Requete on April 17, 2008, 10:29:37 AM
Christian Compassion
And the Wrath of God

Love your Enemy
And Heap Burning Coals on his Head!

Justice: So Important to the God of Love






Several Scriptures telling us not to retaliate, emphasize that this is not to let the offender get off scot-free, but to release the Almighty to execute judgment.

Romans 12:19 Do not take revenge, my friends, but leave room for God’s wrath, for it is written: “It is mine to avenge; I will repay,” says the Lord. (20) On the contrary: “If your enemy is hungry, feed him; if he is thirsty, give him something to drink. In doing this, you will heap burning coals on his head.”

Proverbs 24: 17 Do not gloat when your enemy falls; when he stumbles, do not let your heart rejoice, (18) or the LORD will see and disapprove and turn his wrath away from him.

This shocks us, even though it blends in with other Scriptures that seem to speak of vengeance with peculiar relish:

2 Thessalonians 1:4 . . . we boast about your perseverance and faith in all the persecutions and trials you are enduring. (5) All this is evidence that God’s judgment is right, and as a result you will be counted worthy of the kingdom of God, for which you are suffering. (6) God is just: He will pay back trouble to those who trouble you (7) and give relief to you who are troubled, and to us as well. This will happen when the Lord Jesus is revealed from heaven in blazing fire with his powerful angels. (8) He will punish those who do not know God and do not obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus. (9) They will be punished with everlasting destruction and shut out from the presence of the Lord and from the majesty of his power

Revelation 6:9 . . . I saw under the altar the souls of those who had been slain because of the word of God and the testimony they had maintained. (10) They called out in a loud voice, “How long, Sovereign Lord, holy and true, until you judge the inhabitants of the earth and avenge our blood?” (11) Then each of them was given a white robe, and they were told to wait a little longer, until the number of their fellow servants and brothers who were to be killed as they had been was completed.

Deuteronomy 32:43 Rejoice, O nations, with his people, for he will avenge the blood of his servants; he will take vengeance on his enemies and make atonement for his land and people.

We discovered in the previous page, significant reasons for God urging us not to take vengeance into our own hands. For even more insight into this perplexing issue and an examination of how loving our enemies fits into divine vengeance, let’s explore a powerful passage of Scripture, commenting as we go.

Read entire article Ambroix or anybody who is decieved by marxist liberation "theologians" that Christianity is pacifist religion:

http://net-burst.net/revenge/love_and_wrath_of_God.htm

Title: Re: B''H, This Week's New JTF Videos (04/11)
Post by: Ambiorix on April 17, 2008, 11:08:56 AM
Thank you for the feedback.
Title: Re: B''H, This Week's New JTF Videos (04/11)
Post by: AsheDina on April 17, 2008, 06:32:50 PM
Thank you for the feedback.

Is it righteous to stand idle when your brother is killed?

  No. Is is UNRIGHTEOUS.  Soldiers when at war, are HEROIC, they OFTEN go in the place of danger, NOT knowing if they will live or die, yet they stand in that gap that may kill a fellow comrade- OHHHHHHHHHHHHH!! That we would be like THAT.  THAT IS COURAGE. That is what it takes- so....How MUCH MORE for our G-d?  I will be counted among those who are like THAT.  O0
Title: Re: B''H, This Week's New JTF Videos (04/11)
Post by: SerbChicago on April 17, 2008, 07:08:03 PM
Thank you!
Title: Re: B''H, This Week's New JTF Videos (04/11)
Post by: cltcwarlord on April 02, 2012, 04:29:33 AM
We are behind you Chaim.