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General Category => Introduce Yourself => Topic started by: TheCoon on November 23, 2006, 08:57:25 PM
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Dude, I think you should talk to someone - perhaps a psychologist - about this unhealthy obsession. You need to feel good and love yourself before you can expect anyone else to fee that way about you.
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I really hope that there are some JTF'ers not having difficulty with women. Some of these threads are kind of sad.
What is this supposed to mean?
The only sad thing is that in this day and age men are still expected to make all of the first moves, do and say all of the right things, while women get the 'veto', they are judges of all men, and they consider themselves 'prizes' of the highest order to be fought over.
This combined with equal voting rights etc for women does not put them on equal footing with men but places them in a superior position to men.
Also, I am one of those men who can recognize the extreme levels of intelligence in the average woman, while women sometimes 'hide it' or act as if they are air-headed for their own nefarious purposes.
Yes indeed, it IS sad - but NOT on my account. Did I ask to be born? Did I ask for things to be as they are? No, no. Therefore the only thing which is 'sad' is the state of affairs around me!
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I really hope that there are some JTF'ers not having difficulty with women. Some of these threads are kind of sad.
Yup, I'm not happy with the direction of a lot of these threads. Too much anger towards women.
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Oh, women are beautiful but it is so sad that they don't use their brains for good things only to embrace "feminism" and "mulitculturalism" in the vast majority of cases. Why is it that if a molattos never identify with their "whiteness" but only their "blackness"? It is because of the immense Marxist "Utopian" propaganda to "Hate Whitey", dumb down Ol-Whitey and embrace "diversity" via shvartzism. Personally, I think Tyra Banks is ugly as [censored], but that is my opinion. She looks like that with her affirmative action hair cut, give her a week without a crimping machine, hair dryer or an expensive beauty salon and she'd look like a normal Black woman standing next to a cigarette machine at the local liquor store or standing outside Popeye's looking for another customer and not this black beauty trying to be white on the cover of some tart, probably Affirmative Action Feminist Fashion magazine. There are good looking black women, so let the black men have them with our white trash that we won't take back in any event. Just my opinion, and I'm entitled to it.
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I wasn't referencing you in particular, Yacov. To each his own, anyway. However, I would advise you Yacov not to be too rigid in your expectations. Why don't you post a profile on Jdate? That way you can filter out the people you don't want to meet.
JDate is a Left Wing dating site.
I'm already on religious dating sites.
Can you give some URLs?
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Yes. Women use their sexuality as a weapon. But there's no reason for a man like yourself to be intimidated of them.
I think you are just plain wrong.
Women need to be more finicky in picking their mates then they are.
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I agree with Yacov about Jdate. It is a very left wing site. But then again, most Jews consider it chic to be "left wing" or liberals. I used to be paying member there, but now I just have a profile up. There's a section where they ask you your political affiliation. I put "right wing." And one liberal journalist I went out with from the site told me that the reason I haven't gotten many responses is because the guys are scared off by a rightwing woman. I've had other interesting experiences from that site as well.
Davkakach, the url is http://www.jdate.com
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Davkakach don't bother with J.date. I was a member there and it is actually kind of depressing considering the vast amounts of Leftwing Liberal Jews you see on that site. It is like one big popularity contest. I met many girls who were liberal yet telling me they were everything different to what they were. Some were down right revolting. Not physically but their professed left of "reform" beliefs makes one very depressed that Jews could accept such rubbish. I agree with Lisa on that one... Kol hakovod to her...
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Marzutra what does Kol Hakovod mean?
Thanks.
Lisa
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Oh yeah, I heard about J-Date. My ex is looking for a new husband on it... ::)
"Kol Hakavod" means "Good for [her]", "Good job", "Right on", "Kudos", etc.
A synonym to "Kol Hakavod" is "Yishar Koach". Basically Marzutra fully identifies
with your viewpoint, Lisa.
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Now JTF would sure be an interesting place to hook up. Just for the record, I'm a 29 year old SWJM. It should be obvious, but I'm looking for a SWJF. Yes she has to be a female and yes she has two be Jewish. These are two things that JDate doesn't appear to understand.
Yahoo personals are a different story. There you get x-rated solisitations or ugly affirmative action beasts contacting you. I must have given up on these sites about two years ago.
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http://www.frumster.com/ This one costs money but is the most effective. The only woman who answered me there the month I ppaid said she didnt't want to have to wait to get married so she didn't want to continue writing. It is a dating for marriage site.
http://www.singolim.org/home.php This is the best free one.
http://www.2become1.us is a good one if you live in Israel. A lot of women wrote to me there but they all live in Israel. My profile is in English but people with a Hebrew profile can see it in Hebrew except what I typed myself. I can see their's in English except what they typed themselves.
OK, thanks Yacov. Interesting.
I would advise people against dating within the JTF community simply because it requires a certain level of trust, and you never know if the person you're dating is actually a planted Shabak or Mossad asset. Those guys (and gals) are professionals, they receive training in psychology, and they have a great deal of patience---it takes years to develop intelligence assets. If Chaim is deemed too dangerous to be allowed back to Israel, you can bet that the Israeli Bolsheviks keep an eye on him and on JTF. It's better to date via other channels without mentioning your affiliation to JTF, at least until you get to know the person better.
Then again, maybe I'm just paranoid... ::)
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I agree with Yacov about Jdate. It is a very left wing site. But then again, most Jews consider it chic to be "left wing" or liberals. I used to be paying member there, but now I just have a profile up. There's a section where they ask you your political affiliation. I put "right wing." And one liberal journalist I went out with from the site told me that the reason I haven't gotten many responses is because the guys are scared off by a rightwing woman. I've had other interesting experiences from that site as well.
Davkakach, the url is http://www.jdate.com
How old are you? Perhaps you could try Chaim? Then again, he needs a native born Israel so he can get in to Israel.
My only concern is that someone who is not looking to hook up on this site might feel uncomfortable if they are asked. That is why I was careful not to specifically ask anyone who hasn't explicitly stated that they want to be contacted this way. Perhaps if we are to include Kahanist dating, measures should be taken to prevent people from being solicited unless they specifically want to.
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OK, thanks Yacov. Interesting.
I would advise people against dating within the JTF community simply because it requires a certain level of trust, and you never know if the person you're dating is actually a planted Shabak or Mossad asset. Those guys (and gals) are professionals, they receive training in psychology, and they have a great deal of patience---it takes years to develop intelligence assets. If Chaim is deemed too dangerous to be allowed back to Israel, you can bet that the Israeli Bolsheviks keep an eye on him and on JTF. It's better to date via other channels without mentioning your affiliation to JTF, at least until you get to know the person better.
Then again, maybe I'm just paranoid... ::)
I must say that I'd be very depressed if I knew of a Shabak or Mossad agent is trying to do what you say because they then would have absolutely no pride, nor knowledge, nor affiliation to their immense history as a person. Liberalism/Socialism is not Judaism but actually out to vanquish Jews, Judaism, Christians, Christianity etc. with 150 million dead as a result of this "Utopian" Bolshevik view/ideology, these individuals would either be brainwashed themselves to believe that logic, morality and too G-d are not good for humanity. Perhaps Shabak and Mossad agents might need "diversity training" towards "tolerance" for moral, righteous, proud and strong Jews? Perhaps, that might be a good position for a legal suit against the Bolshevik brainwashed and vastly corrupt Government of Israel to have some of the denied "Freedoms: Speech, expression etc." extended to those who love Jews, Judaism, Israel and morality?... I'd love to be a Mossad agent or Shabak to work towards something good like getting rid of this immoral Marxist Judenrot regime in Israel as well performing a moral and funded transfer of all the Muslims, Communists, Black Hebros and other anti-Israel/Jewish garbage within Israel.... This too goes for the Satmer types. They can go live in Iran, Syria or the Ukrane until they find some pride, respect and truthful reality... Just my opinion..
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I don't know what all this ranting about dating is. I have no difficulty finding girls to date. The way it works for me is my mother makes a lot of friends and tells them to look out for people and eventually the word gets out through women's gossip and I get a number from a girl who is a known by a friend's friend's friend and this is how it goes. The women know all the girls since they gossip a lot and have tons of friends. Also my mother goes to Shidduch meetings and gets more connections this way. If you want a girl to date, talk to your mother and she will find girls for you. Although the people I date are misnagdim not necessarily Kahanist and I don't broadcast I am a Kahanist, I save that for maybee the fifth date but so far the girls I dated they did not like me or I didn't like them on the first date.
So in summary the women are the key to dating especially your mother since this is what the women spend most of their time doing (matchmaking) so feed the fire man and let them do their job!
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I don't know what all this ranting about dating is. I have no difficulty finding girls to date. The way it works for me is my mother makes a lot of friends and tells them to look out for people and eventually the word gets out through women's gossip and I get a number from a girl who is a known by a friend's friend's friend and this is how it goes. The women know all the girls since they gossip a lot and have tons of friends. Also my mother goes to Shidduch meetings and gets more connections this way. If you want a girl to date, talk to your mother and she will find girls for you. Although the people I date are misnagdim not necessarily Kahanist and I don't broadcast I am a Kahanist, I save that for maybee the fifth date but so far the girls I dated they did not like me or I didn't like them on the first date.
So in summary the women are the key to dating especially your mother since this is what the women spend most of their time doing (matchmaking) so feed the fire man and let them do their job!
:D Exactly right.
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Yacov, thanks for asking, but I am little too old.
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Yacov Menashe Ben Rachamim since we're discussing ages, I'm about the same age as you and I am also Yacov. ;D
It would be really funny to have a Kahanist dating site though.
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Yes Yacov, I'm older than my early 30's.
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That's a great idea, I might ask my mother to hook me up with some hot blondes. 8) Although I cannot be bothered with dating. I only want women for one thing.
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That's a great idea, I might ask my mother to hook me up with some hot blondes. 8) Although I cannot be bothered with dating. I only want women for one thing.
I thought you didn't like blondes... ::)
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That's a great idea, I might ask my mother to hook me up with some hot blondes. 8) Although I cannot be bothered with dating. I only want women for one thing.
May I ask what that one thing might be? Not to be insulting in any way but if it is for marriage and a meaningful relationship, I'd say that is a just quest. If it is for sex and using them as a piece of meat to be tossed away would be more comparable to the actions of the modern day hominid, a.k.a.: shvartza. Please do not take offense, I wish only to correct the post for future readers... ;)
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:D
This topic is fun!
Yes I must say since reading this forum there seems to me to be a lot of singal guys who visit JTF, I think the dating sites are a good idea and I have been seeing lots of single pretty girls on there info pages, maybe I need to find my self a nice Jewish girl myself, because the Christan I have been involved with just are not cutting it.
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The issue here is though we have many more men then women. I will be honest and say that I don't know if I would support the Kahanist movement if I hadn't been through what I have been through both at home and in the workplace. Many women have it easy so they don't become very militant at least not in the United States,
There is some subtle bigotry. This shows itself by companies that when they are forced to hire women will not hire women from their own people but will hire Jewish women or black women. They actually want these women to be so drunk with work that they don't get married and have children. I do know in harlem they have a public school for all girls but not all boys. In Harlem 66% of those going to college among african americans are women. They would never allow public schools for white women only. But this is subtle bigotry that they want to turn women against their own men. This information is from Christina Hoff-Summers book "The war against boys". This was in 2000 but it likely is still the same.
I would think that Jewish women don't have the same problems Jewish men have because companies are nice to them and some don't mind that they don't get married and have children and this goes to many Jewish women's heads. They don't realize they are being used.
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It seems to me that it is relatively easy to find women and date them.
Ending an unworkable relationship is what is difficult!
And here are some things JTF men should never forget:
"Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned!"
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There are good women out there, but sadly they are getting fewer and fewer thanks solely to liberalism, "Progressive" education and also shvartzism (which is a byproduct of Liberal/Utopan lies). Women today are indoctrinated with feminism and the principals of how to be a good feminist from the cradle to the grave today. Savage was correct in his adage "Liberalism is a mental disorder". Truth, pure truth. You will see big changes the week after Hillary Sodom Arafat raises her hand an lies to the American people...
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Hey im a jewish woman.
I find searching for a JEWISH man who isn't a liberalist or a left wing jew extremely hard. Infact i have met probably less then 10 so far and they are all out of my age range. I'm 23...
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Hey im a jewish woman.
I find searching for a JEWISH man who isn't a liberalist or a left wing jew extremely hard. Infact i have met probably less then 10 so far and they are all out of my age range. I'm 23...
Well, I think every Jew on this site is far from a Liberal. As a matter of fact I detest them. I look forward to eating them for breakfast, prove how detached they are from reality and too the damage their G0dless ilk has contributed to the decline of humanity. Ecc 3 "There is a time to hate...." I hope that is a good answer.... M
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i'm religious in the sense that i don't cross the limits....however i come from an extremely religious background
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Gabriele, what do you mean you dont cross the line?
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Well I'm 33 so it is starting to get really difficult for me (sigh, I wish I was 25 again.) as I do want a women who is of childbearing age and I guess a women fairly close to my age fertility is starting to go down as the 20's are more fertile years then the 30's are. The stats clearly bear it out and once you hit 30 fertility for a woman does start to seriously drop. So it isn't easy. Should I go for a girl in her ealry 30S (and most of them have some issue besides age) or a girl in her mid or late 20S. Feminism is very, very, bad in the Orthodox world and many women don't even know their own frailties and are now waiting longer and longer to get married. Some so called "Rabbi's" are telling women it is OK to lie about their age until they are 35 because age isn't critical until age 35. Which is nonsense of course. They also treat men like crap saying men don't have a biological clock but most women don't want a man too much older then them anyway. So it isn't easy. At this point I don't know if I could get a women with all the qualities that I would want. I try to be fair, though, as I am not perfect myself.
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Well I'm 33 so it is starting to get really difficult for me (sigh, I wish I was 25 again.) as I do want a women who is of childbearing age and I guess a women fairly close to my age fertility is starting to go down as the 20's are more fertile years then the 30's are. The stats clearly bear it out and once you hit 30 fertility for a woman does start to seriously drop. So it isn't easy. Should I go for a girl in her ealry 30S (and most of them have some issue besides age) or a girl in her mid or late 20S. Feminism is very, very, bad in the Orthodox world and many women don't even know their own frailties and are now waiting longer and longer to get married. Some so called "Rabbi's" are telling women it is OK to lie about their age until they are 35 because age isn't critical until age 35. Which is nonsense of course. They also treat men like crap saying men don't have a biological clock but most women don't want a man too much older then them anyway. So it isn't easy. At this point I don't know if I could get a women with all the qualities that I would want. I try to be fair, though, as I am not perfect myself.
I hear you brother...
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Well I'm 33 so it is starting to get really difficult for me (sigh, I wish I was 25 again.) as I do want a women who is of childbearing age and I guess a women fairly close to my age fertility is starting to go down as the 20's are more fertile years then the 30's are. The stats clearly bear it out and once you hit 30 fertility for a woman does start to seriously drop. So it isn't easy. Should I go for a girl in her ealry 30S (and most of them have some issue besides age) or a girl in her mid or late 20S. Feminism is very, very, bad in the Orthodox world and many women don't even know their own frailties and are now waiting longer and longer to get married. Some so called "Rabbi's" are telling women it is OK to lie about their age until they are 35 because age isn't critical until age 35. Which is nonsense of course. They also treat men like crap saying men don't have a biological clock but most women don't want a man too much older then them anyway. So it isn't easy. At this point I don't know if I could get a women with all the qualities that I would want. I try to be fair, though, as I am not perfect myself.
I join Marzutra in expressing my solidarity with you.
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Hi, Yaacov. By the way, CAN WE HAVE A BOARD FOR DATING AND CONCERNS OF SINGLE MEN AND SINGLE WOMEN WITH MARRIAGE IN TODAY'S SOCIETY. I don't know if I should post everything on this one thread and for the moment any new topic I am going to post over here since we don't have a section for this.
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Thanks for the feedback Yaaacov. I really hope we have something soon and I think we do need it. I agree that there should be rules on it. So far this site has a lot of single Jewish men and single Gentile men and I think this would help. Of course we would have try to get women from other boards but I think this would help the situation and hopefully attract some women to this site who are also single.
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Thanks for the feedback Yaaacov. I really hope we have something soon and I think we do need it. I agree that there should be rules on it. So far this site has a lot of single Jewish men and single Gentile men and I think this would help. Of course we would have try to get women from other boards but I think this would help the situation and hopefully attract some women to this site who are also single.
because you're such a lovely bunch.
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because you're such a lovely bunch.
WIth all respect and wishing others all the best I won't be using this site to try and get hooked up with women ... I come here to try and avoid them.
Politics is just a sublimated sex-substitute anyway.
It's grand to be able to come to a place where one can indulge now and then in manly discussion without having fear that some woman is watching and thinking you're 'so uncool'.
You know, a bunch of men can go from being like long-lost brothers to a pack of squabbling wolves when a saucy young woman is introduced to the scene. Women are the number one cause of wars and fighting between men.
ANd yet their bosoms are comely to my sight, and their voices like a running stream of gold - and their long shiny hair is like a Revelation - I love women, they sooth my pains like sweet honey soothes a sore throat - they are golden apples shot through with an ecstasy-inducing flavour - I love women - but they all want to kill me.
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Perhaps if you didn't just want them for sex, they wouldn't want to kill you. You need a Righteous Gentile woman to marry and you need to follow The Noahide Laws which prohibit illicit sex.
You're right that I should follow the Noahide laws. (I've never fornicated BTW, only thought of it.)
As for righteous young British women?
You'd sooner find a unicorn grazing in a British forest ;D
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It means to know a woman before marriage. Most people these days have done it. I can't even imagine what it would be like to bring a woman home, use her for a night, and then never see her again. It's a mystery ....
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I, as a single male, am not very demanding in the qualities I seek in a Jewish female mate.
Any cardiac surgeon or other medical specialist will do; just as will a prominent attorney.
We will keep the fire burning warm and bright in our intimate relations; separate bedrooms should do the trick quite nicely.
Ideally, my mate will not speak English, but rather French or another European tongue. Why ever argue?