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Guns and Self-Defense => Guns/Firearms => Topic started by: Kiwi on December 24, 2007, 10:35:46 PM
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Due to the fact women have different needs to men in weapons, I put a short list of weapons I recommend women have.
1911PD all models
(http://www.ozarkguns.com/pistols/Smith%20&/smith_pistol_files/swg108283a.jpg)
A Butterfly knife
(http://www.balisong.net/pictures/armesbastille3.jpg)
A steel torch that can double as a club ;) Comes in pink ^-^
(http://www.7dayshop.com/catalog/images/products/prod_100605.jpg)
And all women need to carry a mobile or cell phone.
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Women should just ask their attacker "Where's this relationship heading?" and he'll run 100 miles.
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(http://www.a-human-right.com/s_comeback.jpg)
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Nice compact O0
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what's with all this propaganda with guns and stuff??? that's NOT nice!!!
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what's with all this propaganda with guns and stuff??? that's NOT nice!!!
How is it propaganda?
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what's with all this propaganda with guns and stuff??? that's NOT nice!!!
How is it propaganda?
I simply see those guns and the first thing that comes in my mind is AGGRESSION! is that right?
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what's with all this propaganda with guns and stuff??? that's NOT nice!!!
How is it propaganda?
I simply see those guns and the first thing that comes in my mind is AGGRESSION! is that right?
Not at all, self defense is a human right. Did you know the Nazis supported gun control?
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I recommended other items than guns Jasmina as well. Women need to be aware of their options.
Even down to a steel nail file that can be used in DEFENCE.
I never recommend women attacking, only women defending. Its a huge difference.
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well it's better if nobody needs them.....I don't like guns...at all...
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well it's better if nobody needs them.....I don't like guns...at all...
Do you like when you see the police blocking off the street with yellow tape and outlining the bodies of a innocent woman who's been raped because she wasn't legally allowed to defend herself? You can't rely on the police to protect you. Bad guys have them, terrorists have them, neo nazis have them, are you going to tell us we should sit around like a bunch of ducks in a small pond?
The Jews didn't "need" guns in Nazi Germany either according to the 3rd reich, that went well right? Trust your government.
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and you think if we all have guns for self-defense that will gonna solve that problem? I personally think that will be a trigger for even more murders and victims...here is not Heaven, the place where everything is perfect...here is Earth, and we will gonna see bad things with or without self-defense weapons...
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and you think if we all have guns for self-defense that will gonna solve that problem? I personally think that will be a trigger for even more murders and victims...here is not Heaven, the place where everything is perfect...here is Earth, and we will gonna see bad things with or without self-defense weapons...
Yasmina,
Where would you rather walk at 2AM........New York City or Tucson?
You see. Places like Tucson, Boulder, Oaklahoma city have lots of guns but lower crime rates than NYC or DC who have gun control.
While there is ONE person on the planet with evil intent, good people need weapons.
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and you think if we all have guns for self-defense that will gonna solve that problem? I personally think that will be a trigger for even more murders and victims...here is not Heaven, the place where everything is perfect...here is Earth, and we will gonna see bad things with or without self-defense weapons...
Simple, more guns, less crime. It creates a balance and the gene pool is cleansed of criminal scum.
Look at Switzerland, less murders than the United Kingdom who has virtually banned guns.
Ever heard of the city of Kennesaw, Georgia? About 27,000 people all required by law to own guns, not one murder in 25 years. No wild west shootouts.
Know what the murder rate of Washington DC is?
The point is, when people are disarmed, they become victims. It's happening in all these places that have outlawed legal gun ownership, when Guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns.
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and you think if we all have guns for self-defense that will gonna solve that problem? I personally think that will be a trigger for even more murders and victims...here is not Heaven, the place where everything is perfect...here is Earth, and we will gonna see bad things with or without self-defense weapons...
Yasmina,
Where would you rather walk at 2AM........New York City or Tucson?
You see. Places like Tucson, Boulder, Oaklahoma city have lots of guns but lower crime rates than NYC or DC who have gun control.
While there is ONE person on the planet with evil intent, good people need weapons.
it's not about where is good and where is bad to walk at 2 A.M....I just don't like weapons to be posted on this forum...bad things happens all the time...but I just DON't think if all the people had guns then THAT will solve the problem...
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I think if all people from NYC had guns, then if one couldn't drive thought green light, the other from the back would kill him because he is in a big hurry! ;D
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and you think if we all have guns for self-defense that will gonna solve that problem? I personally think that will be a trigger for even more murders and victims...here is not Heaven, the place where everything is perfect...here is Earth, and we will gonna see bad things with or without self-defense weapons...
Yasmina,
Where would you rather walk at 2AM........New York City or Tucson?
You see. Places like Tucson, Boulder, Oaklahoma city have lots of guns but lower crime rates than NYC or DC who have gun control.
While there is ONE person on the planet with evil intent, good people need weapons.
it's not about where is good and where is bad to walk at 2 A.M....I just don't like weapons to be posted on this forum...bad things happens all the time...but I just DON't think if all the people had guns then THAT will solve the problem...
It DOES solve the problem, though.
Kennesaw, Georgia....every home has a gun and not ONE murder in 25 years.
Switzerland........automatic, miliary weapons in one out of every four homes and the LOWEST crime rate in europe.
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and you think if we all have guns for self-defense that will gonna solve that problem? I personally think that will be a trigger for even more murders and victims...here is not Heaven, the place where everything is perfect...here is Earth, and we will gonna see bad things with or without self-defense weapons...
Yasmina,
Where would you rather walk at 2AM........New York City or Tucson?
You see. Places like Tucson, Boulder, Oaklahoma city have lots of guns but lower crime rates than NYC or DC who have gun control.
While there is ONE person on the planet with evil intent, good people need weapons.
it's not about where is good and where is bad to walk at 2 A.M....I just don't like weapons to be posted on this forum...bad things happens all the time...but I just DON't think if all the people had guns then THAT will solve the problem...
So you don't like us posting about something covered under the constitution?
You know this is why I requested a gun subforum is so that we could keep all discussions to one category, you do have the freedom to avoid posting in this section or reading it if it truly bothers you that much.
Heres a pink rifle complete with hello kitty stickers, now even you have to admit it's cute right? Apparently these are the latest fashion like pink motorola razer cell phones.
(http://gullyborg.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/barbie.jpg)
Newman and I are a bit more manly, we prefer our evil black guns.
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and you think if we all have guns for self-defense that will gonna solve that problem? I personally think that will be a trigger for even more murders and victims...here is not Heaven, the place where everything is perfect...here is Earth, and we will gonna see bad things with or without self-defense weapons...
Yasmina,
Where would you rather walk at 2AM........New York City or Tucson?
You see. Places like Tucson, Boulder, Oaklahoma city have lots of guns but lower crime rates than NYC or DC who have gun control.
While there is ONE person on the planet with evil intent, good people need weapons.
it's not about where is good and where is bad to walk at 2 A.M....I just don't like weapons to be posted on this forum...bad things happens all the time...but I just DON't think if all the people had guns then THAT will solve the problem...
So you don't like us posting about something covered under the constitution?
You know this is why I requested a gun subforum is so that we could keep all discussions to one category, you do have the freedom to avoid posting in this section or reading it if it truly bothers you that much.
Heres a pink rifle complete with hello kitty stickers, now even you have to admit it's cute right? Apparently these are the latest fashion like pink motorola razer cell phones.
(http://gullyborg.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/barbie.jpg)
Newman and I are a bit more manly, we prefer our evil black guns.
You should see the surpluss Australian Lee Enfield No 1s. Many have several dozen notches on the forends from all the Turks, Krauts and Japs the diggers killed!
Talk about 'manly' weapons. :)
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well it's better if nobody needs them.....I don't like guns...at all...
I understand that, and there are other options, even hairspray can be an effective weapon if you need it, carry a lighter as well, very compact flame thrower. Or even spray into the eyes of your attacker.
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Some other good ways for women to deter rapists:
1/ Don't shave legs or armpits.
2/ Wear those big, passion-killing, orthopedic full briefs.
3/ Ask him for commitment.
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and you think if we all have guns for self-defense that will gonna solve that problem? I personally think that will be a trigger for even more murders and victims...here is not Heaven, the place where everything is perfect...here is Earth, and we will gonna see bad things with or without self-defense weapons...
Where would you rather walk at 2AM........New York City or Tucson?
New York City.
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Haha Newman or just state you got the virus 8;) :::D
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Haha Newman or just state you got the virus 8;) :::D
Males can deter muggers by telling them they've got a great place to hide their money after seeing the movie 'Papillon'.
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Due to the fact women have different needs to men in weapons, I put a short list of weapons I recommend women have.
1911PD all models
(http://www.ozarkguns.com/pistols/Smith%20&/smith_pistol_files/swg108283a.jpg)
A Butterfly knife
(http://www.balisong.net/pictures/armesbastille3.jpg)
A steel torch that can double as a club ;) Comes in pink ^-^
(http://www.7dayshop.com/catalog/images/products/prod_100605.jpg)
And all women need to carry a mobile or cell phone.
Out of curiosity, how do those particular weapons work better for women than other ones?
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Due to the fact women have different needs to men in weapons, I put a short list of weapons I recommend women have.
1911PD all models
A Butterfly knife
A steel torch that can double as a club ;) Comes in pink ^-^
And all women need to carry a mobile or cell phone.
Out of curiosity, how do those particular weapons work better for women than other ones?
1911PD models are very light weight guns, and the grips are a little narrow much more comfortable for a women to use because she has smaller hands. Also easy to carry due to the weight, alot of other side arms are very heavy, more than likely to be left in a car or at home.
Butterfly knife because easy to carry on her person. they do come in nice handle designs
(http://www.barsupplies.com/images/balisongAllFour.jpg)
A woman is more than likely will carry something she likes the look of. They are cheap and can have a range of them to match outfits. Yes that is very important.
A steel torch that can double as a club well thats just it. Its not a weapon but can be used at night. Being hit by a Maglite across the head would pretty much stop alot of people.
I mean not all attackers are men, some are women, some are teens.
Maglite are strong light weight torches, that once again comes in a range of colours.
Weapons for women need to be what she feel comfortable carrying.
Doesn't have to be a gun.
I always carried knives, then a gun. I am back now with a knife.
But the number one weapon a woman can have with her is a good size dog.
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Women have to be very careful with weapons.
A man can easily disarm a Woman fumbling with a weapon.
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what's with all this propaganda with guns and stuff??? that's NOT nice!!!
How is it propaganda?
I simply see those guns and the first thing that comes in my mind is AGGRESSION! is that right?
No way....its PROTECTION, if someone breaks into your house with the intention of killing or raping you, do you REALLY thing the police will be able to help?? Like my brother says 911 is for victims, the police will get there in time to put up crime scene tape and take pictures of the body...and if I have any say it wont be MY body. I would not hesitate to put a bullet into the head of a person who threatened my life or that of my family.
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what's with all this propaganda with guns and stuff??? that's NOT nice!!!
How is it propaganda?
I simply see those guns and the first thing that comes in my mind is AGGRESSION! is that right?
No way....its PROTECTION, if someone breaks into your house with the intention of killing or raping you, do you REALLY thing the police will be able to help?? Like my brother says 911 is for victims, the police will get there in time to put up crime scene tape and take pictures of the body...and if I have any say it wont be MY body. I would not hesitate to put a bullet into the head of a person who threatened my life or that of my family.
I have to agree with Kelly on this one. Here on Long Island we have been having a rash of home invasions. Once animals like this come into a home and can't find what they think should be there they often resort to abuse and violence. A gun in the home in the hands of someone who can and will use it correctly is a powerful deterrent. Let a few of the filthy animals doing this garbage get a few rounds of shotgun pellets in them and other animals may think twice about doing this sort of thing. I see where your coming from on this Jasmina but when bad people have all the guns good people suffer the consequences.
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Due to the fact women have different needs to men in weapons, I put a short list of weapons I recommend women have.
1911PD all models
A Butterfly knife
A steel torch that can double as a club ;) Comes in pink ^-^
And all women need to carry a mobile or cell phone.
Out of curiosity, how do those particular weapons work better for women than other ones?
1911PD models are very light weight guns, and the grips are a little narrow much more comfortable for a women to use because she has smaller hands. Also easy to carry due to the weight, alot of other side arms are very heavy, more than likely to be left in a car or at home.
Butterfly knife because easy to carry on her person. they do come in nice handle designs
(http://www.barsupplies.com/images/balisongAllFour.jpg)
A woman is more than likely will carry something she likes the look of. They are cheap and can have a range of them to match outfits. Yes that is very important.
A steel torch that can double as a club well thats just it. Its not a weapon but can be used at night. Being hit by a Maglite across the head would pretty much stop alot of people.
I mean not all attackers are men, some are women, some are teens.
Maglite are strong light weight torches, that once again comes in a range of colours.
Weapons for women need to be what she feel comfortable carrying.
Doesn't have to be a gun.
I always carried knives, then a gun. I am back now with a knife.
But the number one weapon a woman can have with her is a good size dog.
The 6 battery Mag-Lite is 20 inches long. Its great to have in the car or if you need to go out of the house late to walk the dog or such. You can give an assailant a hell of a headache with a crack in the head with something like this. The best part of the deal is it legal to carry around. Another great weapon for the car is the steel one piece radio mast from most cars. Just keep one in the car. Walking at night its almost invisible. Its light to carry when you go from the car to wherever and you can really put someone down quick with it by giving them a few surprise lashes in the face.
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The 6 battery Mag-Lite is 20 inches long. Its great to have in the car or if you need to go out of the house late to walk the dog or such. You can give an assailant a hell of a headache with a crack in the head with something like this.
How on Earth can a Woman wield a 6-cell Mag-lite? Or even a 4-cell for that matter?
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Pepper Spray/ Mace for beginners... Tazzer gun for intermediates and small revolver gun for experts or trained. O0
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The guard technique from Brazillian Jiu-jitsu makes Women virtually rape-proof.
Women should also learn how to choke an opponent out using their legs.
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The 6 battery Mag-Lite is 20 inches long. Its great to have in the car or if you need to go out of the house late to walk the dog or such. You can give an assailant a hell of a headache with a crack in the head with something like this.
How on Earth can a Woman wield a 6-cell Mag-lite? Or even a 4-cell for that matter?
It's true its not a weapon that is useful for everyone. Its better than walking with nothing. If the person carrying it is lucky to get a crack or a poke in the ribs in it could make all the difference.
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The 6 battery Mag-Lite is 20 inches long. Its great to have in the car or if you need to go out of the house late to walk the dog or such. You can give an assailant a hell of a headache with a crack in the head with something like this. The best part of the deal is it legal to carry around. Another great weapon for the car is the steel one piece radio mast from most cars. Just keep one in the car. Walking at night its almost invisible. Its light to carry when you go from the car to wherever and you can really put someone down quick with it by giving them a few surprise lashes in the face.
Yup and its not seen as a weapon so people know you are carrying it, and will more than likely pick an easier target.
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Pepper Spray/ Mace for beginners... Tazzer gun for intermediates and small revolver gun for experts or trained. O0
Tazzers are good, there is even tazzer parties now, where the women show other women how to use them correctly. O0
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Lipstick Pepper Spray
(http://selfdefenseweapons.com/images/pepperspray/lipstick-pepper-spray-sm.jpg)
They are cute and cheap ;)
This specially designed pepperspray was made just for woman. This powerful pepper spray is contained inside a common looking lipstick container. The container houses a powerful self protection pepper spray delivery system. Each lipstick contains 5 one second burst and sprays up to 6 feet. O0
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Pepper Sprays are only as good as the person using the device and of course windage.
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Pepper Sprays are only as good as the person using the device and of course windage.
Applies to all things now doesn't it ;)
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Pepper Sprays are only as good as the person using the device and of course windage.
Not to mention useless if the attacker is wearing sun glasses.
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I have talked in person with many women and most of them are anti gun before and up to an assault. Then they come running to an instructor in firearms and or Martial Arts asking to be trained.
I am not faulting women in this area just stating a fact about human nature. Women in general dislike weapons. That is why Woman have for decades been barred from combat units in the military for physical and emotional and mental health issues.
Weapons are a part of Human Nature.
We had rocks, sticks, sling shots, arrows and spears, and knives before there was firearms and people were still being attacked and used these weapons in the history of our planet.
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Don't you think you need to encourge rather than discourge. Anything is better than nothing. I can tell you most women are shot by attackers with there own guns. what does that tell you?
Most rapes are done by males the female knows.
Most times the female will not attack the attack for emotional reasons. Giving a woman any form of weapon allows her to have some kind of control.
Rape and attacks on women are attacks of power over her. If she has something she feels comfortable using then she will use it. If she doesn't want too, she wont use it.
Think outside the square gentlemen, we are talking all countries in this world and in many women don't carry guns, give them something they can use and protect themselves.
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That is why I recommend any form of Martial Arts Training.
You get physical and mental skills to overcome and overpower an attacker.
Remember having any kind of weapon as your sole protection is laughable.
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Don't you think you need to encourge rather than discourge. Anything is better than nothing. I can tell you most women are shot by attackers with there own guns. what does that tell you?
Most rapes are done by males the female knows.
Most times the female will not attack the attack for emotional reasons. Giving a woman any form of weapon allows her to have some kind of control.
Rape and attacks on women are attacks of power over her. If she has something she feels comfortable using then she will use it. If she doesn't want too, she wont use it.
Think outside the square gentlemen, we are talking all countries in this world and in many women don't carry guns, give them something they can use and protect themselves.
(http://www.fwbairsoft.com/gunfact/e1.JPG)
(http://www.fwbairsoft.com/gunfact/e2.JPG)
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Remember having any kind of weapon as your sole protection is laughable.
My point exactly to much is being pushed, own a gun you are 100% safe. Its a myth that needs to be changed.
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Conservative righteous women should be armed O0
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Don't you think you need to encourge rather than discourge. Anything is better than nothing. I can tell you most women are shot by attackers with there own guns. what does that tell you?
Most rapes are done by males the female knows.
Most times the female will not attack the attack for emotional reasons. Giving a woman any form of weapon allows her to have some kind of control.
Rape and attacks on women are attacks of power over her. If she has something she feels comfortable using then she will use it. If she doesn't want too, she wont use it.
Think outside the square gentlemen, we are talking all countries in this world and in many women don't carry guns, give them something they can use and protect themselves.
(http://www.fwbairsoft.com/gunfact/e1.JPG)
(http://www.fwbairsoft.com/gunfact/e2.JPG)
Aussie can't carry guns
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Conservative righteous women should be armed O0
Many are just not with firearms.
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The charts following after Australia banned ownership of guns.
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The charts following after Australia banned ownership of guns.
Australians can't carry gun's and the laws will not be overturned. What weapons do you suggest?
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Okay you want to get serious for a moment here it is.
You have to retool your mind to fight to the death to win.
First anything in your immediate surroundings can be a weapon if you learn to think this way. It sounds like paranoia but what can I say.
Let us take a typical female what she wears usually on a day to day basis.
Start at the top of the head.
Ear rings between your fingers can cause extra pain and lacerations to the skin
Necklaces depending on brand can be used to flick at the eyes and in some cases be used to entrap a limb.
Glasses can be broken and the glass can be used as an edged weapon. The Frames can be used for gouging.
Rings, watches can be used against skin to cause irritation to the attacker (Distraction)
Belts can be used to choke, trap and used if you have a heavy buckle as a crude striking weapon.
Shoes can be fling, Tied together to trap and throw people, High Heels make great stabbing weapons.
This is just a start
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The charts following after Australia banned ownership of guns.
Australians can't carry gun's and the laws will not be overturned. What weapons do you suggest?
Your right, Aussies cannot carry guns but I was merely pointing out that despite the guns being banned for legal civilian use, there were definitely side effects.
I have no objection to you offering alternative choices for people who cannot use firearms, but we must realize the downsides to the alternatives so people realize what they are getting into, and you are right, one cannot put faith into a weapon as it doesn't offer a guarantee, only a better chance if one is trained well with it.
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The charts following after Australia banned ownership of guns.
Australians can't carry gun's and the laws will not be overturned. What weapons do you suggest?
Your right, Aussies cannot carry guns but I was merely pointing out that despite the guns being banned for legal civilian use, there were definitely side effects.
I have no objection to you offering alternative choices for people who cannot use firearms, but we must realize the downsides to the alternatives so people realize what they are getting into, and you are right, one cannot put faith into a weapon as it doesn't offer a guarantee, only a better chance if one is trained well with it.
Then help with the alternatives, I know you can, you are a very smart fella. O0
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Okay you want to get serious for a moment here it is.
You have to retool your mind to fight to the death to win.
First anything in your immediate surroundings can be a weapon if you learn to think this way. It sounds like paranoia but what can I say.
Let us take a typical female what she wears usually on a day to day basis.
Start at the top of the head.
Ear rings between your fingers can cause extra pain and lacerations to the skin
Necklaces depending on brand can be used to flick at the eyes and in some cases be used to entrap a limb.
Glasses can be broken and the glass can be used as an edged weapon. The Frames can be used for gouging.
Rings, watches can be used against skin to cause irritation to the attacker (Distraction)
Belts can be used to choke, trap and used if you have a heavy buckle as a crude striking weapon.
Shoes can be fling, Tied together to trap and throw people, High Heels make great stabbing weapons.
This is just a start
Great start mate please don't stop ;)
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Okay you want to get serious for a moment here it is.
You have to retool your mind to fight to the death to win.
First anything in your immediate surroundings can be a weapon if you learn to think this way. It sounds like paranoia but what can I say.
Let us take a typical female what she wears usually on a day to day basis.
Start at the top of the head.
Ear rings between your fingers can cause extra pain and lacerations to the skin
Necklaces depending on brand can be used to flick at the eyes and in some cases be used to entrap a limb.
Glasses can be broken and the glass can be used as an edged weapon. The Frames can be used for gouging.
Rings, watches can be used against skin to cause irritation to the attacker (Distraction)
Belts can be used to choke, trap and used if you have a heavy buckle as a crude striking weapon.
Shoes can be fling, Tied together to trap and throw people, High Heels make great stabbing weapons.
This is just a start
Great start mate please don't stop ;)
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