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Title: Ask Lisa
Post by: Lisa on December 14, 2009, 01:05:33 PM
OK people.  I don't want to feel left out, so here goes. 

Ask away. 
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: Irish Zionist on December 14, 2009, 01:33:03 PM
I heard you are a Jew living in Serbia. Am I right or mistaken? If so where do you come from?
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: Lisa on December 14, 2009, 01:42:19 PM
Oh no.  I'm a Jew living in New York.  I think you might have me confused with someone else.  But I definitely support the Serbs.   ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: Confederate Kahanist on December 14, 2009, 01:44:21 PM
I heard you are a Jew living in Serbia. Am I right or mistaken? If so where do you come from?

Where in the world did you come up with that?   :::D
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: mord on December 14, 2009, 01:50:04 PM
What is your favorite restaurant
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: Lisa on December 14, 2009, 02:06:09 PM
Hi Mord,

My absolute favorite food is sushi.  So I'll let you know of my favorite Japanese restaurants.  One is Shabu Shabu on East 70th Street in Manhattan between First and Second Avenues.  It's a bit on the pricey side but good.  There's also Tokubei on East 86th Street between First and Second Avenues.  It's also a bit pricey, but the sushi is great. 

Then there's this other great place on West 56th Street near Broadway, whose name currently escapes me.  I've been there on business lunches and dinners.  The food there was always excellent. 

And finally, there's Nobu in Las Vegas.  I was there several years ago. I remember having this yellowtail sushi appetizer wrapped in a cilantro leaf.  It was amazing!
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: mord on December 14, 2009, 02:14:34 PM
Hi Mord,

My absolute favorite food is sushi.  So I'll let you know of my favorite Japanese restaurants.  One is Shabu Shabu on East 70th Street in Manhattan between First and Second Avenues.  It's a bit on the pricey side but good.  There's also Tokubei on East 86th Street between First and Second Avenues.  It's also a bit pricey, but the sushi is great. 

Then there's this other great place on West 56th Street near Broadway, whose name currently escapes me.  I've been there on business lunches and dinners.  The food there was always excellent. 

And finally, there's Nobu in Las Vegas.  I was there several years ago. I remember having this yellowtail sushi appetizer wrapped in a cilantro leaf.  It was amazing!
my brothers going to vegas next month i'll tell him about the one in vegas :)
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks on December 14, 2009, 08:02:29 PM
Shalom Lisa,

Please comment on the disaster that is the life of America's favorite country-club negro, Tiger Woods, because I disagree with Trace. This billionaire star athlete made hundreds of millions in endorsements from white/Jewish corporations, controlled a multinational empire and had a beautiful Scandinavian wife and family, but chose to throw it all away with a huge and motley array of hideous kurvas. Everybody is saying that this ape's extreme womanizing was just a product of his wealth and fame, but I don't buy that a bit. When white celebrities carry on affairs, generally it's with one woman, long-term. It appears that Tiger went out of his way to be a "pimp" and a "player". Everybody, including all the conservatives, are in denial of the fact that Tiger's father Earl was a schvartze who raised him with schvartze values. As I hardly need to explain to you, extreme promiscuity and the objectifying of women are one of the primary ways that black males prove their manliness to each other (believe it or not, I listened to schvartze rap drek once).

Chaim commented that he doesn't "seem black" to him, but that is exactly what the schvartze-worshipping establishment wants; to create schvartzes that do not seem "black" so that whites do not feel wary of them. Tiger Woods' case just goes to show you that you can take the negro out of the ghetto, but you can't take the ghetto out of the negro. As you already know this "good" black is an Obama supporter
(http://golf.fanhouse.com/2008/11/10/tiger-woods-is-very-happy-with-president-barack-obama/). Were I not a moderate, I would suggest that we cease calling him Tiger, and start calling him something that rhymes with "tiger" Woods.

(http://blackfathershalloffame.com/images/earl-woods.jpg)
(Does this affirmative-action colonel look like he's just half-black? And even if he is, what does it matter? Whatever fraction negro Tiger is, he clearly embodies negro culture.)

Regards, Dr. Brennan Fan
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: Moshe92 on December 14, 2009, 08:24:47 PM
Have you always lived in New York?
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: Lisa on December 14, 2009, 08:26:50 PM
Dr. Brennan Fan, I agree with you.  

Now granted, there are some good conservative blacks like Thomas Sowell, Pastor Manning, Reverend Jesse Lee Peterson and Mychal Massie, to name a few.  But for many of them, things like studying in school, getting a job, working hard, getting married and staying married are still considered "acting white" and not "keeping it real."  

Often when conservatives bring these points up, they're accused by the race pimps and their white liberal supporters of "shoving their moral down people's throats."  Or they'll say the government has no business legislating morality.  Of course conservatives have every right to bring up these points.  Everyone suffers from deteriorating public schools, affirmative action and crime.  

But getting back to Tiger Woods, he made it big because of whites/Jews who promoted him, and used him to endorse their products.  That wife could have had it a lot worse.  At least he didn't beat her up, kill her, or throw acid in her face.  As it is now, he just cheated on her with a bunch of butt ugly whores.  And mind you this Ellin Nordregen could have had any man on the planet.  Yet she chose this idiot?

I hear he won't be playing golf for a while.  The company Accenture their endorsements when news got out of his whoring around.  I just hope the other sponsors follow.  

Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: Lisa on December 14, 2009, 08:29:12 PM
Hi Moshe92.

Yes.  I've always lived in New York.  I was born in Queens.  Then when I was six years old, my family moved to Long Island.  I went to college at NYU.  Then after a year or so back on Long Island, I moved back to Manhattan.  However I'm now back on Long Island for the time being, since things with me are kind of in a flux right now. 
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: Moshe92 on December 14, 2009, 09:42:14 PM
Have you ever been to Israel?
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: Lisa on December 14, 2009, 10:22:53 PM
Hi Moshe92,

I was in Israel about 30 years ago for a six-week teen tour.  We went everywhere. 
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: Mishmaat on December 14, 2009, 10:35:08 PM
Lisa, what's your favorite kind of music? Do you have any band or artist that you like in particular?
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: Lisa on December 14, 2009, 10:59:36 PM
Hi Mishmaat,

I like a little bit of everything, except for rap. 

That includes some rock, disco (believe it or not) and Broadway show tunes.  In my CD box, I have about six Tears for Fears CD's, some disco CD's, the Jekyll and Hyde two CD set, some Cher CD's, since I love how she can be over the top, a Sarah Brightman CD, and one Loreena McKennitt album. 
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: Confederate Kahanist on December 14, 2009, 11:30:36 PM
Dear Lisa since I see that you went to Vegas, what did you think of the place?
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: mord on December 15, 2009, 06:39:15 AM
Hi Moshe92.

Yes.  I've always lived in New York.  I was born in Queens.  Then when I was six years old, my family moved to Long Island.  I went to college at NYU.  Then after a year or so back on Long Island, I moved back to Manhattan.  However I'm now back on Long Island for the time being, since things with me are kind of in a flux right now. 
Why don't you like Long Island?Manhattan is too noisy and alot of traffic
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: Lisa on December 15, 2009, 09:32:48 AM
Dear Lisa since I see that you went to Vegas, what did you think of the place?

Hi Confederate Kahanist,

I had to go to Las Vegas several times for work in my past jobs.  I actually liked it, even though I'm completely against gambling.  It's a flashy over the top kind of place which struck me as a combination of Manhattan and Los Angeles.  They have hotels there whose facades look exactly like the Manhattan skyline and a medieval castle, among other things.  Their airport is smack in the middle of town, which was nice, and you'll find slot machines there as soon as you get out of the plane. This is not to say though that I would want to live there. 

Now speaking of Las Vegas, I have a funny story to share. 

Years ago, I used to sell magazine advertising for a computer publication.  So my sales manager of the time was telling people the story of when he went to Las Vegas for a trade show called Comdex (now defunct).  So there he was at a gambling table one night with his fellow sales reps, when this group of women came and joined in with gambling.

So my manager, who I'll refer to as D. said to his colleagues:

"Guys, those girls are prostitutes."

Of course the other sales guys couldn't believe it.  There were like "What are you talking about, D?  Those girls look like just like the women in our office.  They're not hookers.  You're imagining things."

So then one of the guys asks one of the women what company they were with, and one of them responded very defensively saying "North Atlantic Mutual!"

Then one of women asked of the sales guys "So are you gentlemen with Comtrex as well?"

That was when they knew my manager was right. 



Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: Lisa on December 15, 2009, 09:47:02 AM
Dear Moshe92,

It's not that I dislike Long Island.  The part where I live, and where I grew up is actually beautiful.  It's just that I never was much of a driver. 

First off, I didn't get my driver's license on the first road test.  Then when I did, I never drove that much since I went to college at NYU, where I lived on campus. (Having a car in Manhattan is for the most part a complete waste of everything.)  Also, many years ago, I had a very bad car accident, where I suffered a head injury.  Fortunately, I don't remember the accident at all.  I was told it was permanently erased, like when you delete data off a hard drive.  So after that, I've never been completely comfortable behind the wheel of a car like some people are. 

The thing I've always liked about Manhattan is how people come there to find/re-invent themselves.  It's one of the world's media, fashion and publishing capitals.  Also, I've always liked how everything is within walking distance, or accessible by subway/bus.  What's also good is that you can find basically any kind of cuisine or entertainment.

(Now that's not to say I've ever been the wild, party animal type but anyway...)
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: Lisa on December 15, 2009, 10:35:11 AM
Shalom Lisa,

You said you went to college at NYU.  What is your degree in?

Hello Dan Ben Noah,

My degree was in Romance Languages (French, Spanish, and a little Italian). 
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: HiWarp on December 15, 2009, 10:40:35 AM
Shalom Lisa,

You said you went to college at NYU.  What is your degree in?

Hello Dan Ben Noah,

My degree was in Romance Languages (French, Spanish, and a little Italian). 

Hello Lisa,

Are you employed in a field where you are able to utilize what you studied and earned a degree in?
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: Lisa on December 15, 2009, 10:45:47 AM
Hello HiWarp,

Right now the answer is unfortunately, no.  But I'm hoping to change that soon. 
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: The One and Only Mo on December 15, 2009, 01:39:00 PM
Hi Moshe92.

Yes.  I've always lived in New York.  I was born in Queens.  Then when I was six years old, my family moved to Long Island.  I went to college at NYU.  Then after a year or so back on Long Island, I moved back to Manhattan.  However I'm now back on Long Island for the time being, since things with me are kind of in a flux right now. 

How'd you get into JTF and meet Chaim etc.? How'd you score this gig as a big wig here?
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: Lisa on December 15, 2009, 02:09:35 PM
Hi Moshe92,

Good question.

About twelve or thirteen years ago, I was sitting in my apartment one night bored and flipping through the television channels, when all the sudden I saw a young man with black sunglasses ranting about Israel, the Arabs, Chuck Schumer and the Serbs.  He was bluntly saying everything I've always thought about the whole Israel/Fakestinian situation.  The only thing was when I would try and voice these opinions to family and friends, people would just say, "Oh Lisa, you need to be realistic."  But here was a man who was saying everything I'd always been thinking!  I was riveted. 

From then on, I always made it a point to catch those Manhattan Neighborhood Network public television shows.  And of course, I always visited the website every week religiously.  I just loved it!  I pretty much devoured everything on that website.

In fact, Chaim was one of two people who helped turn me into a conservative.  (This probably won't make much sense, but the other person was the late Ayn Rand after I read her book "Atlas Shrugged.")

Otherwise, I don't remember how I found the JTF forum.  I think there might have been a link on the main JTF page.  But once I found the forum, I was practically in heaven.  I thought I was the only person who knew of, or supported JTF.  So it was great to be able to connect to like minded people. 

Now at that point, I had already started my own blog, and was still very into it, pouring through dozens of news feeds every day for stuff to post.  It was a pleasure for me to jump in and share my commentary (or what have you) with other right wing people.

I guess it also helped that I met our former admin Yacov several times.  I remember Jimmy Sullivan asking me if I would like to be a moderator for the General section, and that he thought I was a good writer.  Then right afterwards, Yacov wrote me and said "Lisa, there's a fight going on in the forum.  As moderator, you need to go in and stop it" or something to that effect.  So that's basically what I did.

After that, I became friendly with Shlomo when he became an admin. He found what I wrote on one thread about a film called "Janet's Abortion" very funny.  And it helped that he seemed to like my posts. 

I think I became admin at around the time "Until Shiloh Comes" ended up becoming less active on the forum.  Shlomo wasn't able to monitor the forum and do the back end stuff on his own. 

Hope that answers your question. 
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: Irish Zionist on December 15, 2009, 03:56:36 PM
Have you ever considered moving to Israel?
If not what are your reasons?
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: Zelhar on December 15, 2009, 04:02:50 PM
Hi Lisa,

How do you characterize your faith ?

Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: Lisa on December 15, 2009, 05:39:32 PM
Hi Irish Zionist,

Good question.

So far, I haven't really considered it.  It's just that all my family is here, although I do have some distant relatives there.  And as much as might complain about them, I can't imagine completely uprooting myself.  There are some people who can easily relocate for work or other reasons, then easily land on their feet wherever they go.  I don't think I'm one of them. 
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: The One and Only Mo on December 15, 2009, 05:53:02 PM
Hi Moshe92,

Good question.

About twelve or thirteen years ago, I was sitting in my apartment one night bored and flipping through the television channels, when all the sudden I saw a young man with black sunglasses ranting about Israel, the Arabs, Chuck Schumer and the Serbs.  He was bluntly saying everything I've always thought about the whole Israel/Fakestinian situation.  The only thing was when I would try and voice these opinions to family and friends, people would just say, "Oh Lisa, you need to be realistic."  But here was a man who was saying everything I'd always been thinking!  I was riveted. 

From then on, I always made it a point to catch those Manhattan Neighborhood Network public television shows.  And of course, I always visited the website every week religiously.  I just loved it!  I pretty much devoured everything on that website.

In fact, Chaim was one of two people who helped turn me into a conservative.  (This probably won't make much sense, but the other person was the late Ayn Rand after I read her book "Atlas Shrugged.")

Otherwise, I don't remember how I found the JTF forum.  I think there might have been a link on the main JTF page.  But once I found the forum, I was practically in heaven.  I thought I was the only person who knew of, or supported JTF.  So it was great to be able to connect to like minded people. 

Now at that point, I had already started my own blog, and was still very into it, pouring through dozens of news feeds every day for stuff to post.  It was a pleasure for me to jump in and share my commentary (or what have you) with other right wing people.

I guess it also helped that I met our former admin Yacov several times.  I remember Jimmy Sullivan asking me if I would like to be a moderator for the General section, and that he thought I was a good writer.  Then right afterwards, Yacov wrote me and said "Lisa, there's a fight going on in the forum.  As moderator, you need to go in and stop it" or something to that effect.  So that's basically what I did.

After that, I became friendly with Shlomo when he became an admin. He found what I wrote on one thread about a film called "Janet's Abortion" very funny.  And it helped that he seemed to like my posts. 

I think I became admin at around the time "Until Shiloh Comes" ended up becoming less active on the forum.  Shlomo wasn't able to monitor the forum and do the back end stuff on his own. 

Hope that answers your question. 

You addressed the answer to Moshe92 :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: Lisa on December 15, 2009, 06:00:11 PM
Dear Zelhar,

I am a first generation American, and the daughter of Iranian Jews.  I was born in Queens, and went to a yeshiva for first and most of second grade, after which, my family moved to Long Island.  After that I began attending public schools.  But my family belonged for many years to the only ashkenazic Orthodox Synagogue of the town, since there were so few Iranian Jews where we were.  And I attended their after school program for years.  

After 1976, most of the Jews in Iran came to America en masse, and to Long Island as well.  So I would say that starting in the 80's and 90's, they started building Iranian Synagogues.  My parents now belong to one as well.  You should know that for Iranian Jews, there is no such thing as Orthodox, Conservative and Reform.  The Iranian Synagogues I've been to however are kind of on the Orthodox side if I had to compare.  And there are differences between your average Orthodox Jewish and your traditional Iranian Jewish services and customs, which could be the subject of an entire new thread.

But in terms of my faith/level of observance, I attend my family's Synagogue on Rosh Hashana.  I fast on Yom Kippur, and have in the past attended a makeshift Iranian Synagogue close to where my family used to live.  For this year, my sister had tickets from a friend to a nearby Conservative Synagogue which was within walking distance of her house.  So we went there.  

Now I'm not nearly as observant as many of the Jewish members here.  However, I have NEVER, had any Christmas decorations at home growing up for Chanukah.  Nor did I ever receive Chanukah presents. To their credit, Iranian Jews don't engage in that kind of thing. And I never intend to start if I one day have a family of my own.  To me, those things are just for self-hating Jews who feel left out during the Christmas season.  

I hope that answers your question.  If not, ask me more stuff.  

Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: Lisa on December 15, 2009, 06:01:00 PM
I'm sorry Mo.  My bad.  I've been so spaced out lately. 
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: Irish Zionist on December 15, 2009, 06:20:48 PM
I know I'm bringing up this subject again and plz tell me to stop if your getting uncomfortable about discussing this. I'm sure many Jewish people were in the same situation as you or even harder. Look at what The Yemenite Jews did this year. They left a country they have been in for 1,500 years because they believed in The Torah. They were uprooted yes, but it's to my believe they are happy they are home in Israel. I cannot describe the feeling one would have, having a nation with all your brothers and sisters all together united. I think that would be a wonderful and holy feeling. Also all The Jews in Israel need great Jews like you Lisa. Why don't you try and convince your family to move to Israel with you?
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: Lisa on December 15, 2009, 06:57:40 PM
You're not making me uncomfortable, Bryan.  My parents are old and set in their ways.  They want to be around their relatives, and other Iranian Jews. 

As for myself, it's not like I'll say "never."
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: futuramark on December 16, 2009, 01:59:22 AM
hi Lisa....I noticed in threads jewish people seem to really hate the Maltese people...they seem to confuse us with arabs/muslims whom who have been hating since practically our childhood ...so I guess they're confused...even though there was a period when we had a political party (mintoff era) who was siding with that a--hole Libya's gaddafi in the 70s the maltese have never felt arabic or muslims on the contrary...we always wanted western democracy, we are very christian and anti arabic/muslim really. plus I dont think we ever had any problems with jewish people in fact all thru history the community of jewish ppl living in Malta have always been safe and protected...I dont understand why they bear all this hate towards us...I saw some threads which were very insulting and always thought Malta and Israel and jewish ppl had good relations with each other. Remember also that when we were attacked by muslims in 1565 in the great siege jewish people and maltese people were fighting side by side for their survival, since Muslims hated both jews and christians alike and they would have slaughtered us both if they had won. Is it becuase of the lockerbie incident? or becuase of Shakespear book the Jew of Malta? I dont know ..maybe you can enlighten me please.  But please inform such people that even though we might have some arab blood still in us and our language is based on semitic...we totally do not feel we are like the arabs/muslims..in fact if you went in a bar in Malta and called us arabs you would be lucky if you get out without a fight heh. No offense to arab people but I guess we love our history and feel that muslims especially the turks/ottomans are our eternal mortal enemy becuase they tried to exterminate us and almost succeeded. We were also maybe nowadays not su much...devoteldly christians..and anti islamic but never have I heard anything against jews in malta except lately by 1 person who is taking advantage of the immigration of africans and is of neo nazi ideology and rambling against jews...however just a few of is followers take him seriously most ridicule him and dont take him seriously and he has been sent to 2 years jail beucase of hate speech. most of his followers in the site are anti immigration and not antisemites but he influences them also so they try to copy him...but only a few hardcore followers of his maybe 10 people or so actually emulate him in his anti semite ramblings.

mark
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: Zelhar on December 16, 2009, 06:10:37 AM
Hi Lisa,

Thanks for your answer. To be honest I actually aimed to inquire about your belief- do you believe in God at all, do you believe the Torah was given entirely by god if at all ?
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: Lisa on December 16, 2009, 06:51:53 AM
Hi Lisa,

Thanks for your answer. To be honest I actually aimed to inquire about your belief- do you believe in G-d at all, do you believe the Torah was given entirely by G-d if at all ?

Of course I believe in G-d.  I believe the Torah was given by G-d. 
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: Lisa on December 16, 2009, 06:53:24 AM
Futuramark,

Thanks for writing to me. 

I can't speak for all Jews, but I have nothing against Maltese people.  I'll write you more later when I get home from work. 
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks on December 16, 2009, 08:51:40 AM
Hi Lisa,

Thanks for your answer. To be honest I actually aimed to inquire about your belief- do you believe in G-d at all, do you believe the Torah was given entirely by G-d if at all ?
Umm, why would you question this at all? I seem to recall you told judeanoncapta earlier this year that you ywere in fact very secular. In fact you two argued pretty heatedly.
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: Zelhar on December 16, 2009, 08:57:32 AM
Hi Lisa,

Thanks for your answer. To be honest I actually aimed to inquire about your belief- do you believe in G-d at all, do you believe the Torah was given entirely by G-d if at all ?
Umm, why would you question this at all? I seem to recall you told judeanoncapta earlier this year that you ywere in fact very secular. In fact you two argued pretty heatedly.

I am secular and I am also curious about what other people think of such matters. I am not sure what you are trying to imply though, what is wrong about me asking other people what they believe in ?
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks on December 17, 2009, 04:15:13 AM
It was just really weird that you would question whether Lisa believes in G-d.
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: Zelhar on December 17, 2009, 05:32:56 AM
It was just really weird that you would question whether Lisa believes in G-d.
‎The way you phrase this might imply that I don't believe Lisa or something like this. I am just genuinely curious to know what other people think on the issue of God and the foundation of the Judaism.

If I knew Lisa was religious, which I didn't, I suppose it would be less relevant to ask if she believes in God.
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: Lisa on December 17, 2009, 09:07:04 AM
I see Zelhar.

You say you're secular.  What's your view of G-d and the foundation of Judaism.  I'm very interested in what you think, since your posts are always excellent.

Thanks.
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks on December 17, 2009, 09:44:36 AM
Lisa, please go off on Tiger for me in a royal manner.
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: Lisa on December 17, 2009, 10:12:50 AM
Well Dr. Brennan Fan, if you insist...

This Tiger Woods was married to probably the most beautiful woman on the planet, and he threw it away on a bunch of hideous hookers.  Have you seen pictures of those disgusting floozies?  They all look like monkeys compared to Ellin Nordregen (no offense to monkeys)! 

Now granted the men on the forum will probably insist that it's natural for men to want variety.  If I had a dime for every time a man told me that men are "visual creatures," I would be rich by now. 

Also don't get me wrong when I call those bimbos he went with hideous.  The fact is, they are hideous.  And even if they weren't hideous, it's still no excuse for anyone to cheat on his wife and destroy his family.  This Tiger Woods had it all, yet he chose to throw it away.

I also heard on the radio the other morning that Tiger refused to wear condoms when he cavorted with these whores.  In fact, one of them said she was scared to have sex with Tiger because of that.  (Yet she went ahead and did so anyway.)

So now what some people might be wondering is if it was just a matter of the fame and fortune (courtesy of rich white people) going to Tiger's head.  Or was it just another example of Third World ghetto behavior. 

I'm inclined to believe it's just another example of ghetto behavior, when you factor in the drugs, the refusal to practice "safe" sex, and the whole business of paying for sex. 


Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: futuramark on December 17, 2009, 10:19:28 AM
Why doesn't Tiger Woods stick to his own race...is he admitting the white race is prettier I wonder...same goes for all other N's.
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: Zelhar on December 17, 2009, 12:38:07 PM
I see Zelhar.

You say you're secular.  What's your view of G-d and the foundation of Judaism.  I'm very interested in what you think, since your posts are always excellent.

Thanks.
I am trying to sum it up compactly:

I believe, or assume G-d, however I am also pretty much convinced that G-d is impossible to prove logically, it's like in logic there may be truths that are unprovable (maybe you heard of Gödel's incompleteness theorems).

I also think that I have a sort of proof that there is some kind of entity that is the creator of the universe, however at least by my logic, it is consistent that this entity is not sentient. We actually had a rather interesting thread on this issue a few months back in the Hebrew forum. 

So the only valid way to confirm G-d exists is that he reveals this truth to us mortals. Judaism is pretty much founded on the belief that such event had actually occurred- on mount Sinai in front of numerous witnesses. And  the claim is that the Torah itself and the people of Israel who pass this testimony from one generation to the next in an unbroken link are the proof to that this is indeed a historic event and among other things it proves G-d exists. It is surely impossible to disprove this claim, but frankly I don't think it is a proof either.

Personally I am not convinced enough to accept this claim as a fact. I actually think the Torah and the Tanakh were written by humans. It is nonetheless rather historically accurate, because it is evident from the text itself that there is no attempt to cover inconvenient details, like for example the story of David and Batsheva. In fact I think since G-d is also the G-d of the History and destiny it would be sacrilege for a Hebrew scribe to lie and fake.

But I also think that in certain cases, much of the texts were written long after the said event and so the report is far less accurate. That's why the stories of Genesis and Exodus are more mythical, while for example Judges, Samuel, and Kings are much more accurate. 
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: Lisa on December 17, 2009, 01:11:45 PM
Why doesn't Tiger Woods stick to his own race...is he admitting the white race is prettier I wonder...same goes for all other N's.

Dear Futuramark:

I have no idea why Woods didn't stick to his own kind.  I think status has a lot to do with it.  I guess it was a way for Woods to say "I've made it" by marrying a beautiful blond woman. 

Now as for Swedes and other Scandinavian types desiring dark skinned mates, that's a whole other story.  From what I understand, there are Swedes who consider blacks and Hispanics to be exotic. 

I had this friend from high school who used to work with a lovely Swedish girl. This Swedish girl wanted to come into Manhattan for a night of salsa dancing (Apparently, salsa dancing was the latest craze at the time).  So since I was living in Manhattan at the time, my friend called me and asked if would go with the Swedish girl to a salsa club, and let her spend the night at my place.  My friend said one of her old guy friend neighbors would join us.

Anyway, we got to the club and this Swedish girl was like a child let loose in a candy store

Also, I don't know if you're familiar with the black American singer Diana Ross.  For a number of years, Ms. Ross was married to a Norwegian shipping magnate named Arne Naess (sp?). 
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: futuramark on December 17, 2009, 02:20:44 PM
yes Lisa apart from the fact that they say they have bigger equipment than the white thus better in bed haha. And most of the white trash that desire them usually go after them for that reason becuase the size of the white males would not be enough for them being such wh..res. I do consider hispanics to be sexy though...while I find balcks repulsive in my taste ..ps I dont want to sound racist but everyone has his taste and it is up to the individual. Ofcourse when they mix with other races its another matter and they add the beauty from the other races...for example there are half casts whom I find attractive.
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: Lisa on December 17, 2009, 06:06:59 PM
Hi Futuramark,

We all have our individual tastes. As the saying goes, one woman's frog is another woman's prince, or vice versa. 
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: Lisa on December 17, 2009, 06:10:46 PM
Hi Zelhar,

Thanks for responding.  You're very honest. 

Now just out of curiosity, how did you come by your views on G-d.  Were your parents secular, Orthodox, or somewhere in the middle.  Were you always secular?  Did you ever attend a yeshiva?  How do you observe the High Holidays?  Do you go to your Synagogue every Saturday or just for holidays? 

Thanks.
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: Zelhar on December 18, 2009, 04:58:12 AM
Hi Zelhar,

Thanks for responding.  You're very honest. 

Now just out of curiosity, how did you come by your views on G-d.  Were your parents secular, Orthodox, or somewhere in the middle.  Were you always secular?  Did you ever attend a yeshiva?  How do you observe the High Holidays?  Do you go to your Synagogue every Saturday or just for holidays? 

Thanks.
Hi Lisa,

My parents are secular and agnostic, they always have been. My grandparents were secular. My father's father used to pray at the synagogue on the high holidays. My maternal grandmother kept kosher. None of us observe shabbat. The last time I went to synagogue on the holidays must be some 12 years ago, and even when I did go it was just to meet a couple of my friends. I think the only times I went, by "went" I mean "drove", to synagogue on shabbat was for my barmizva, and a couple of friend's barmizvas.  On Pesach we do a seder and actually read the whole hagadah. If it was up to me to deciside, I would skip parts of the hagadah- most of the songs that come after the meal wouldn't past my cut for sure.

My view on G-d etc. are mostly the result of my own inquiries. I have always liked learning history, and I liked reading the tanach, which  they actually teach allot of which at schools in Israel. Also things I learned from mathematical logic inspire some of my metaphysical convictions.

Other people in my family don't have much interest in this subject. I have one friend who does and he is also baal tshuva. Over the last few years he took me to several lessons and lectures,  and we even studied some talmud.

Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: mord on December 18, 2009, 05:15:21 AM
First a scientific survey was done Caucasoid men are as big as shvatzas. To Zelhar of course G-D isn't going to appear to every person then what purpose would there be to having free will
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: Lisa on December 18, 2009, 09:35:07 AM
First a scientific survey was done Caucasoid men are as big as shvatzas. To Zelhar of course G-D isn't going to appear to every person then what purpose would there be to having free will

Interesting, Mord.
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: Spiraling Leopard on December 18, 2009, 02:23:52 PM
On youtube, you call yourself an 'old geezer'.

How old are you really?
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: Lisa on December 18, 2009, 03:01:53 PM
On youtube, you call yourself an 'old geezer'.

How old are you really?

45
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: Zelhar on December 20, 2009, 03:01:59 AM
To Zelhar of course G-D isn't going to appear to every person then what purpose would there be to having free will
That's interesting. From what I read in the bible, it looks like Prophets have  at certain times no free will, when it comes to delivering the mission G-d assigns to them. For example- Moses had to go back to Egypt and speak to Pharaoh, and also the book of Jonah deals with this subject and the conclusion seems to be there is no escape but to deliver the message.

On the other hand the prophet is still responsible for his own actions, and can make mistakes. The very fist prophet, Adam, defied a direct order from G-d.
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: ~Hanna~ on December 20, 2009, 03:08:01 AM
Adam was a prophet?
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: Zelhar on December 20, 2009, 03:21:39 AM
Adam was a prophet?
If prophet means someone who communicates with God then he was.
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: futuramark on December 21, 2009, 04:17:34 AM
Hi Lisa

Can I ask about 2 personalities. What you think about them. Jesus . Jesus was a jew but then I get it he diverted from judaism maybe and became sort of a renegade? is he hated ? why is he hated ? a self hating jew ? a traitor? how is he seen by the jews.

and the 2nd personailty winston churchill.

Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: Lisa on December 22, 2009, 03:04:02 PM
Hello Futuramark,

Sorry for the delay in answering your question. 

I don't really think anything about Jesus one way or the other.  I know he was a Sabbath keeping pork abstaining Jew.  As I understand it, (since I never read the New Testament), Jesus's first followers were Jews, and Christianity started as another sect of Judaism.  If I'm wrong, others are free to correct me.  However, the two religions separated long ago, due to differences which we all know about here. 

If you want more details, I suggest you download the previous Ask JTF show where Chaim discusses at length the differences between Judaism and Christianity, and how they view G-d. 

http://jtf.org/forum_english/index.php/topic,40935.msg406598.html#msg406598

As for my personal experiences attending an Orthodox Synagogue as a child, I don't remember Jesus ever being mentioned or discussed.  The only time was once in Hebrew school where the rabbi said that the Romans killed Jesus as opposed to the Jews.  The focus in the Synagogues is just on Jewish prayers, etc. 

As for Winston Churchill, I'm a little rusty on my history. I suppose he was better than that Neville Chamberlain.  He seemed to be a good war time prime minister.  However, I obviously have a problem with the fact that the British blocaded Palestine during the Holocaust, basically ensuring their deaths at the hands of the Nazis.  Also, the British air force did not bomb the rail lines leading to the concentration camps, which they could have done.  On the other hand, the Americans could have done it, but chose not to.  (I actually read a comment on a blog saying that America had an agreement with Saudi Barbaria not to bomb those rail lines in exchange for the free flow of Saudi oil.)

As I understand it, by giving the Jews that tiny bit of land, they assumed and hoped that the Arab scum would make quick work of the Jews, which they fortunately did not do.  I also read of how the Arabs would commit pogroms against the Jewish population, and how the British would disarm (or attempt to disarm) the Jews as a result. 

Anyway, I did a web search and found something about how Churchill wrote about Jews being partially responsible for anti-semitism. 

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/this-britain/uncovered-churchills-warnings-about-the-hebrew-bloodsuckers-439772.html

Hope that answers your question.

Lisa

Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: futuramark on December 22, 2009, 03:13:43 PM
Yes Lisa that is why I asked becuase Churchill was anti semite also...maybe he was influenced by the anti semite literature all thru the years in britain. He was even more aggressive when it came to muslims..so who knows maybe he was a war monger and loved to find scapegoats. Surely he was better than the cowardly Chamberlain. I also find it interesting that the british places the jews right next to the muslims and that was a grave mistake in my opinion. I'm not saying Israel should never have happened but maybe it was not the right place, it could have been intentional to clash jews and muslims against each other. Who knows. The root of the problem is Jerusalem. Both religions wat that land muslims and jews and willing to fight for it. At least christians have given up on the land.
Thanks for your answer just wanted to get your perspective.
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: Lisa on December 22, 2009, 03:14:59 PM
Oh no!  It was the right place.  Don't even go there. 
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: Zelhar on December 22, 2009, 03:21:20 PM
Yes Lisa that is why I asked becuase Churchill was anti semite also...maybe he was influenced by the anti semite literature all thru the years in britain. He was even more aggressive when it came to muslims..so who knows maybe he was a war monger and loved to find scapegoats. Surely he was better than the cowardly Chamberlain. I also find it interesting that the british places the jews right next to the muslims and that was a grave mistake in my opinion. I'm not saying Israel should never have happened but maybe it was not the right place, it could have been intentional to clash jews and muslims against each other. Who knows. The root of the problem is Jerusalem. Both religions wat that land muslims and jews and willing to fight for it. At least christians have given up on the land.
Thanks for your answer just wanted to get your perspective.
Listen dude, the Land of Israel is sacred Jewish homeland. It belongs to the Jews, and the Arabs are squatters, robbers and murderers. The British have nothing to do with this. They don't make the call where the Jews build their homeland, the Jews even don't make that call, we have Israel and that's our homeland.

Can you imagine if Libya and Gadafi  would come to Malta and tell you- "give us the Island of Malta and half of Gozo, and then let 250,000 Arabs inside what's left of your country because they are actually returning refugees, since the Arabs used to control malta once. Do that, and maybe we want kill you."

What would you do mark ?
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: futuramark on December 22, 2009, 03:23:37 PM
Zelhar I would do the exact same thing jews are doing and fight for my country. I support Israel and think you have a right to defend it to the last.
but my point was that it could have been done on purpose.. placing jews next to muslims and create tension.
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: IsraeliGovtAreKapos on December 22, 2009, 03:24:59 PM
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Since I've agreed to not discuss about Christianity, I wouldn't post the Torahnic view on Jesus. However, I disagree with Zelhar's and Mark's opinion both, the ONLY reason and justification for us to be here is G-D's Promise, in any other way - we're just bunch of occupiers and thieves.
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: ~Hanna~ on December 22, 2009, 03:35:08 PM
yes, it all goes back to God, for sure.

                                                                     בס"ד

Since I've agreed to not discuss about Christianity, I wouldn't post the Torahnic view on Jesus. However, I disagree with Zelhar's and Mark's opinion both, the ONLY reason and justification for us to be here is G-D's Promise, in any other way - we're just bunch of occupiers and thieves.
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: Lisa on December 22, 2009, 05:48:43 PM
Yes Futuramark.  You're kind of making my point for me.  The British agreed to a Jewish state in parts of Palestine with the assumption that the Arabs would kill them all off.  In that sense you're right that they did it on purpose. 
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: futuramark on December 22, 2009, 05:54:11 PM
Yes Futuramark.  You're kind of making my point for me.  The British agreed to a Jewish state in parts of Palestine with the assumption that the Arabs would kill them all off.  In that sense you're right that they did it on purpose. 
That's exactly the point I was trying to make. I remember reading as a kid about jewish always being persecuted and not owning a land which they can call their own. So yes Israel should be their land and they/you have every right to claim it and defend it. I hope that's clear.
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: Lisa on December 22, 2009, 06:06:15 PM
Yes Futuramark.  You're kind of making my point for me.  The British agreed to a Jewish state in parts of Palestine with the assumption that the Arabs would kill them all off.  In that sense you're right that they did it on purpose. 
That's exactly the point I was trying to make. I remember reading as a kid about jewish always being persecuted and not owning a land which they can call their own. So yes Israel should be their land and they/you have every right to claim it and defend it. I hope that's clear.

OK, thanks.
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: futuramark on December 22, 2009, 06:11:21 PM
Np Lisa. Regarding Jesus I think jewish people should be less aggresive in his regards if they ever want to unite with christians. As a christian it obviously offends me when I hear jews saying Jesus was a dog yes we killed him we enjoyed it bla bla bla. It doesn't serve any purpose other than divide them more. And I'm not a religious person but one should respect someone else's faith if they want unity between them.
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: Lisa on December 22, 2009, 06:14:21 PM
I've never personally seen any Jews to getting "aggressive" about Jesus.  Some of them might think bad thoughts about him.  But then again, some Christians also believe in replacement theology and say that Jews are all going to hell for not believing in Jesus. 
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: futuramark on December 22, 2009, 06:15:35 PM
Ofcourse it cuts both ways Lisa. Both should respect the other's religion and beliefs.
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: Lisa on December 22, 2009, 06:17:06 PM
I think most people do just that, Futuramark. 
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: futuramark on December 22, 2009, 06:20:00 PM
I think most people do just that, Futuramark. 

Not everyone does that unfortunately Lisa. And until then unity between the two is hardly achievable. I think there is a lot of common ground between jews and christians but such attitudes divide the two.
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: IsraeliGovtAreKapos on December 22, 2009, 06:46:14 PM
                                                                      בס"ד

I think most people do just that, Futuramark. 

Not everyone does that unfortunately Lisa. And until then unity between the two is hardly achievable. I think there is a lot of common ground between jews and christians but such attitudes divide the two.

What attitudes? Of bashing Jesus?
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: futuramark on December 22, 2009, 06:47:32 PM
Yes.
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: Lisa on December 22, 2009, 06:52:14 PM
I think the number of Jews who actually bash Jesus, rather than going about their lives is quite few.  The town I grew up in is 95% Jewish, and I haven't seen any of that kind of thing. 
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: IsraeliGovtAreKapos on December 22, 2009, 06:55:40 PM
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Yes.

Well, the Torah position about him is clear, I assume. The Christian view on those who don't accept Christianity generally, and on the Jewish people especially, is known. Well, what can I say? I personall don't seek with any alliance with Christians, and so don't most Jews --- as Chaim explained, anti-Islamic Christians need Jews in their movemet so they wouldn't be considered "Nazis" or whatever, and also, I shouldn't write about the Christian view and religious-backgrounded interests of supporting the Jews; We need non-Jews (and not only Christians but also) in our movement cause the Jews' spiritual level nowadays is outrageous, they lack of faith in G-D and are afraid of not depending on Gentiles. I'd rather call that temporary interests and not friendship/alliance in the first place.

I wouldn't have problems with bashing Jesus cause am myself "bash" Jesus ideologically. I would NEVER condemn them as well. So do you believe that I'd go to hell cause I don't believe in him. But I think it'd be the best we keep the theological differences aside temporeraly and focus on our goals. I'm not gonna change my true opinion about Jesus only cause you don't like it.
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: Lisa on December 22, 2009, 07:04:24 PM
I think we're going to have to agree to disagree when it comes religious beliefs.   

As for JTF in the USA, a lot of the members are not even Jewish.  But so what?  They're wonderful.  And I don't see any harm in accepting well wishes from non-Jews.  After all, no one can accuse Chaim of "depending" on anyone.  Remember, this is a man who bombed Soviet targets, and spent five years in maximum security prisons, all on behalf of the Jews in the USSR. 
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: futuramark on December 22, 2009, 07:07:44 PM
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Yes.

Well, the Torah position about him is clear, I assume. The Christian view on those who don't accept Christianity generally, and on the Jewish people especially, is known. Well, what can I say? I personall don't seek with any alliance with Christians, and so don't most Jews --- as Chaim explained, anti-Islamic Christians need Jews in their movemet so they wouldn't be considered "Nazis" or whatever, and also, I shouldn't write about the Christian view and religious-backgrounded interests of supporting the Jews; We need non-Jews (and not only Christians but also) in our movement cause the Jews' spiritual level nowadays is outrageous, they lack of faith in G-D and are afraid of not depending on Gentiles. I'd rather call that temporary interests and not friendship/alliance in the first place.

I wouldn't have problems with bashing Jesus cause am myself "bash" Jesus ideologically. I would NEVER condemn them as well. So do you believe that I'd go to hell cause I don't believe in him. But I think it'd be the best we keep the theological differences aside temporeraly and focus on our goals. I'm not gonna change my true opinion about Jesus only cause you don't like it.

I don't mind the bashing but it certainly does not help for sure. As far as jews not needing christians , I don't think christians need jews either. They are quiet strong on their own. But as you said they should seek their common enemy islam.
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks on December 22, 2009, 07:16:05 PM
Futura, you're skating on thin ice here. I'm really watching you now that you made that post about how "white Christian" nations resent the Jews because they have to borrow from them and about how the Jews took revenge on the Russians and Europeans by pitting them against each other.

In fact, let me ask you now to give us three reasons not to ban you.
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: AsheDina on December 22, 2009, 07:42:36 PM
Np Lisa. Regarding Jesus I think jewish people should be less aggresive in his regards if they ever want to unite with christians. As a christian it obviously offends me when I hear jews saying Jesus was a dog yes we killed him we enjoyed it bla bla bla. It doesn't serve any purpose other than divide them more. And I'm not a religious person but one should respect someone else's faith if they want unity between them.

What is the problem if you are not religious??  The Jewish people and the Christian people get along fine here. This is a JEWISH forum, btw. 
Do you realize WHY Jews may not be very keen on some Christians?? Do you know WHY you just brought that up? I do. You read things from anti-semitic websites.

I will tell you WHY Jews are distrustful;
Portugal-1492-modern day 1920's Forced indoctrinations. Spainish Inquisition, burning them to the ground, the Bolshevik revolt, and how it affected Torah/Jews, they were slaughtered ALONG with Christians, and thrown out of their lands by "Christians" that dont seem to like following their OWN book, that is SUPPOSED to be a book of love.
 Hitlers 1930's, beatings, Burning Rabbis Beards, a most holy thing,  persecutions of the worst sort, thrown into the gas chambers, being though of as nothing more than JUDEN RAT. MURDERED HORRIFICALLY just for being born a JEW.

This was all done in the NAME of "Christianity". YES, we had MANY Christians that came in to bat for the Jewish people, but COME ON.

The Jewish people, once in a BLUE moon get upset, hurt, and feel degraded, and they say a little something wrong about Christians and it is O----MYYYY-----GGGGGGGGGGGGGG--------------DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD. 
WE ARE NOT THE ONES THAT ARE COMING AGAINST CHRISTIANS - that is the ACLU, the ADL, may they burn forever.

Your real fight is with left wing Jews that are the scum of the earth, imo.

So, dont come here and rant about boo hoo, the Jews SAID this little thing about Christians.

  The people here, on THIS forum that read their book are EXCELLENT, and practice what they preach- they LOVE us, we LOVE them, and will DIE for them if we have to.  I AM SICK AND TIRED OF OUR PEOPLE TAKING A DAMNED BEATING!!! So dont go there, sir.
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: futuramark on December 22, 2009, 07:48:40 PM
i dont have any 3 reason . I have one reason.  I am not anti semitic.
Just like jews are cautious with christians...christians are also cautious wth jews. I gave you the reasons given to me by anti semitic people. Yes I happened to talk to anti semitic people, so I'm guilty in that regards . I did not say that I agreed with them. But if you want to shoot the messenger go ahead ban me I've had enough of being accused for nothing. bye
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: pennyjangle on December 22, 2009, 07:55:50 PM
Lisa,
Do you have any cute furry animals?
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: AsheDina on December 22, 2009, 08:01:03 PM
i dont have any 3 reason . I have one reason.  I am not anti semitic.
Just like jews are cautious with christians...christians are also cautious wth jews. I gave you the reasons given to me by anti semitic people. Yes I happened to talk to anti semitic people, so I'm guilty in that regards . I did not say that I agreed with them. But if you want to shoot the messenger go ahead ban me I've had enough of being accused for nothing. bye

Are you kidding?   :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( whahhhhhh bye then, I dont know WHY you are such a baby, you said YOURSELF that you are not even religious for G-d OR Jesus, so stop the crying and BE A MAN.
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: AsheDina on December 22, 2009, 08:01:47 PM
Lisa,
Do you have any cute furry animals?

yeah, you have any cute little animals?
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: ~Hanna~ on December 22, 2009, 08:02:16 PM
 :laugh:

i dont have any 3 reason . I have one reason.  I am not anti semitic.
Just like jews are cautious with christians...christians are also cautious wth jews. I gave you the reasons given to me by anti semitic people. Yes I happened to talk to anti semitic people, so I'm guilty in that regards . I did not say that I agreed with them. But if you want to shoot the messenger go ahead ban me I've had enough of being accused for nothing. bye

Are you kidding?   :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( whahhhhhh bye then, I dont know WHY you are such a baby, you said YOURSELF that you are not even religious for G-d OR Jesus, so stop the crying and BE A MAN.
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: Lisa on December 22, 2009, 08:08:35 PM
Hello Hanna, AsheDina and Pennyjangle,

I never thought of myself as a pet person. 

However, since I've moved in with sister, I've become very attached to her very cute Maltese dog.  Her name is Chloe, and I LOVE picking her up and hugging her. 

Also, an old high school friend of mine had a male neutered cat who was very affectionate.  He would just sit in my lap and purr, which I loved. 
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: pennyjangle on December 22, 2009, 08:23:31 PM
Lisa,
Do you have any cute furry animals?

Excuse Me............you forgot kathy.  I forgive 'cause your getting hammered.

Lisa adds -- I fixed it.  Sorry for my spaciness. 
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: Lisa on December 22, 2009, 08:36:50 PM
Lisa,
Do you have any cute furry animals?

Excuse Me............you forgot kathy.  I forgive 'cause your getting hammered.

Oh I'm sorry, Pennyjangle.  It was you who asked.  Do you have any pets? 
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: pennyjangle on December 22, 2009, 08:49:17 PM
Yes I have a 8 month Malti-poo, Fenni. Before him I had a Maltese,Tina the tear staining was awful.
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: futuramark on December 22, 2009, 08:56:59 PM
Do you know why they are called maltese? I always found this strange. I don't think he came from my country.
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: Lisa on December 22, 2009, 08:58:20 PM
Yes I have a 8 month Malti-poo, Fenni. Before him I had a Maltese,Tina the tear staining was awful.

My sister's Maltese has the same problem with tear staining.  She gets these brownish marks around her eyes, along with brownish mucus.  Little dogs are so cute.  
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: Lisa on December 22, 2009, 09:01:04 PM
Here's what Wikipedia has to say about why these cute little white dogs are called Maltese:

The Maltese is a small breed of dog in the toy group, known for its silky white hair, though many owners of pet Maltese give them a short "puppy cut" for ease of grooming.[3] The Maltese breed is descended from dogs originating in the Central Mediterranean Area. The breed name and origins are commonly understood to derive from the Mediterranean island of Malta, however the name is sometimes described with reference to the Adriatic island of Méléda, or a defunct Sicilian town called Melita.[4][5][6][7]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maltese_(dog)
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: futuramark on December 22, 2009, 09:02:24 PM
Here's what Wikipedia has to say about why these cute little white dogs are called Maltese:

The Maltese is a small breed of dog in the toy group, known for its silky white hair, though many owners of pet Maltese give them a short "puppy cut" for ease of grooming.[3] The Maltese breed is descended from dogs originating in the Central Mediterranean Area. The breed name and origins are commonly understood to derive from the Mediterranean island of Malta, however the name is sometimes described with reference to the Adriatic island of Méléda, or a defunct Sicilian town called Melita.[4][5][6][7]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maltese_(dog)


wow never knew that hehe ..thanks
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: Serbian Canadian on December 22, 2009, 09:25:02 PM
Hi Lisa. Do you know any Serbs? Have you ever met any Serbs from the NY area?

Also, I noticed that on your blog there's a link to a Serbian blog. Who runs that blog? Do you know the person who runs that blog?
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: Lisa on December 22, 2009, 09:36:18 PM
Hi Serbian Canadian,

Thanks for your question. 

The only Serbs I know are Dan and Jasmina, who are co-moderators of the Serbian sub-forum.  I've met them at past JTF get togethers.  However, I did get a chance to hear the Serbian American author Srdja Trifkovic, who wrote the book "Sword Of The Prophet" speak at the 2009 Preserving Western Civilization conference.  The subject of his speech was the encroachment of Islam in Europe.  He seems like a very intelligent, articulate man. 

As for that Serb blog, Dr. Brennan Fan recommended it to me as being pro-Serb, so I blogrolled them.  I don't know who runs that site.  However, I am acquainted with the wonderful, right leaning Jewish American blogger/comedienne Julia Gorin.  As I'm sure you know, she's very pro-Serb.  She and her husband really know their Balkans history.  Also, she's quite friendly with Mr. Trifkovic.  She did a comedy routine at the 2009 Preserving Western Civilization conference, which is how I know. 
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: pennyjangle on December 22, 2009, 10:43:41 PM
Yes I have a 8 month Malti-poo, Fenni. Before him I had a Maltese,Tina the tear staining was awful.

My sister's Maltese has the same problem with tear staining.  She gets these brownish marks around her eyes, along with brownish mucus.  Little dogs are so cute.  

Some lady shopping at Petco ( I don't know why I'm a people magnet ) told me not to let these dogs drink from a metal bowl. I changed Fenni's bowl to ceramic, it has helped. He has a black face but you can see when there is mucus.  Below Fenni's first snow.
(http://i912.photobucket.com/albums/ac321/pennyjangle/GEDC0223.jpg)

Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: Lisa on December 22, 2009, 10:46:44 PM
Oh Pennyjangle, your puppy is precious!  Is that really all mucus on his face? 
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks on December 22, 2009, 10:50:49 PM
I shouldn't write about the Christian view and religious-backgrounded interests of supporting the Jews
I support the Jews for no other reason than that they are my spiritual ancestors, they gave me the Bible and showed me how to have a relationship with G-d, and because I'd be a self-hating Christian to dislike the Jews.
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks on December 22, 2009, 10:52:35 PM
Just like jews are cautious with christians...christians are also cautious wth jews.
Excuse me?!? "Christians are cautious with Jews"? Last time I checked, tens of millions of Christians were not burned at the stake or beaten or stabbed or raped by Jews because they wouldn't convert to Judaism.
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks on December 22, 2009, 10:55:20 PM
Hello Hanna, AsheDina and Pennyjangle,

I never thought of myself as a pet person. 

However, since I've moved in with sister, I've become very attached to her very cute Maltese dog.  Her name is Chloe, and I LOVE picking her up and hugging her. 

Also, an old high school friend of mine had a male neutered cat who was very affectionate.  He would just sit in my lap and purr, which I loved. 
I am very definitely a cat person (especially Siamese, although I think it's much better to rescue a stray or get one from the pound than a purebred), but would not be against owning a dog if my future wife wanted to. I have owned two dogs--an extremely friendly Doberman who kept escaping from the yard (eventually leading to her getting hit by a car  :'() and a very un-friendly, but ferociously loyal, German Shepherd who lost a struggle with lupus that lasted most of his ten-year life.  :'()
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: futuramark on December 22, 2009, 10:58:56 PM
Just like jews are cautious with christians...christians are also cautious wth jews.
Excuse me?!? "Christians are cautious with Jews"? Last time I checked, tens of millions of Christians were not burned at the stake or beaten or stabbed or raped by Jews because they wouldn't convert to Judaism.
Yes I don't blame you for being cautious with me since I am from a christian country. But millions of good christians died also in ww2 ..Im not talking about germans...the british , polish, east europeans fighting them etc. My country was devestated with nazi bombardments...just remember there are good christians also who are ashamed of all the things you mentioned, even though they did not do them themselves. I never hurt any jew personally so it's unfair I get blamed. We also suffered under the church and Hitler. that's my whole point. I'm not making excuses for what happened. I condemn it. 
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: futuramark on December 23, 2009, 12:31:27 AM
gotta run ...take care all... take care of that maltese dog lisa heh

tc
happy holidays all xxx
regards,
mark
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks on December 23, 2009, 01:06:57 AM
But millions of good christians died also in ww2 ..Im not talking about germans...the british , polish, east europeans fighting them etc. My country was devestated with nazi bombardments...just remember there are good christians also who are ashamed of all the things you mentioned, even though they did not do them themselves. I never hurt any jew personally so it's unfair I get blamed. We also suffered under the church and Hitler. that's my whole point. I'm not making excuses for what happened. I condemn it. 
What does this have to do with Jews then? Why would you ever say that Christians should be wary of Jews?
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: Muck DeFuslims on December 23, 2009, 03:14:20 AM
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Since I've agreed to not discuss about Christianity, I wouldn't post the Torahnic view on Jesus. However, I disagree with Zelhar's and Mark's opinion both, the ONLY reason and justification for us to be here is G-D's Promise, in any other way - we're just bunch of occupiers and thieves.

Not true.

The religious or Torah justification for the Land of Israel eternally belonging to the Jews is definitely the most important factor, but it is NOT the only one.

There are plenty of historical, legal, military and moral justifications for the existence of Israel.

One need not be religious or believe in the Bible to support the Jewish claim to the Land of Israel (although it sure helps).

With or without Torah justification, there is no legitimacy to the claim that Jews are 'thieves' or 'occupiers', and we should always be very clear about this.
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: IsraeliGovtAreKapos on December 23, 2009, 03:17:57 AM
                                                                            בס"ד

                                                                     בס"ד

Since I've agreed to not discuss about Christianity, I wouldn't post the Torahnic view on Jesus. However, I disagree with Zelhar's and Mark's opinion both, the ONLY reason and justification for us to be here is G-D's Promise, in any other way - we're just bunch of occupiers and thieves.

Not true.

The religious or Torah justification for the Land of Israel eternally belonging to the Jews is definitely the most important factor, but it is NOT the only one.

There are plenty of historical, legal, military and moral justifications for the existence of Israel.

One need not be religious or believe in the Bible to support the Jewish claim to the Land of Israel (although it sure helps).

With or without Torah justification, there is no legitimacy to the claim that Jews are 'thieves' or 'occupiers', and we should always be very clear about this.

Yup? Then HOW do you "morally" (our limited view of moral and ethics) explain the way we've occupied the Land of Israel starting from the days of Yehoshua? The Ca'anites were here long before us.
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: Muck DeFuslims on December 23, 2009, 03:37:04 AM
Oh please. The Ca'anites. Don't make me laugh. Is it the Ca'anites that are calling Jews 'occupiers' and 'thieves' ? No. They're long gone. Unless you believe Arabs are Ca'anites.

Besides, by that type of standard virtually every nation on Earth is inhabited by 'occupiers' and 'thieves'.

Sorry, you're wrong. Jews are NOT 'occupiers' or 'thieves' by any legitimate standards, even without Torah justification. Unless of course, you buy into the Arab/Muslim narrative which is a big lie.
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: IsraeliGovtAreKapos on December 23, 2009, 03:40:53 AM
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Oh please. The Ca'anites. Don't make me laugh. Is it the Ca'anites that are calling Jews 'occupiers' and 'thieves' ? No. They're long gone. Unless you believe Arabs are Ca'anites.

Besides, by that type of standard virtually every nation on Earth is inhabited by 'occupiers' and 'thieves'.

Sorry, you're wrong. Jews are NOT 'occupiers' or 'thieves' by any legitimate standards, even without Torah justification. Unless of course, you buy into the Arab/Muslim narrative which is a big lie.

Who said the other nations have any moral justification anyway?? The historical so-called argument is for Le Pen and Heider, not for the Jews.
No, they aren't. But my point is this: the Ca'anites were here long before ourselves. We were in Egypt and Iraq long before Yehoshua. We've reached many places during the Galut, why couldn't have our country in Uganda, Birobidzhan, an island near NY, whatever, WHY Israel? This place is the best place to risk yourself. 

PS: No, I don't believe the Arab/Soviet/German/Muslim, but that doesn't change fact that most of our ancestors weren't living in Israel for heck of a long time. Same goes with the Arabs, but still that doesn't give us a historical "right".
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: Muck DeFuslims on December 23, 2009, 03:57:36 AM
OK, have it your way.

The Torah justification for Israel is the sole legitimate justification.

The Jewish People don't have any historic, legal, military or moral claims to the land currently known as Israel.

And therefore, anyone that doesn't believe in the Bible would be correct to think of Jews as being occupiers and thieves.

That's because the Ca'anites want (and are entitled to have) their nation back.

Whatever.
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: IsraeliGovtAreKapos on December 23, 2009, 04:00:13 AM
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OK, have it your way.

The Torah justification for Israel is the sole legitimate justification.

The Jewish People don't have any historic, legal, military or moral claims to the land currently known as Israel.

And therefore, anyone that doesn't believe in the Bible would be correct to think of Jews as being occupiers and thieves.

That's because the Ca'anites want (and are entitled to have) their nation back.

Whatever.

Don't be a demagouge. What kind of historical, legal (WT..?), military or moral claims do the Jews have to Israel that cannot be fulflled anywhere else?

Anyone who doesn't believe in the Tanach doesn't believe in the existence of the Jewish people, only a mutation of them.
That's because we, without G-D's promise, have the same "right" on this land just like the Arabs do, they've occupied it too and got back to this land about a 100 years ago.
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: Muck DeFuslims on December 23, 2009, 04:15:33 AM
                                                                            בס"ד

OK, have it your way.

The Torah justification for Israel is the sole legitimate justification.

The Jewish People don't have any historic, legal, military or moral claims to the land currently known as Israel.

And therefore, anyone that doesn't believe in the Bible would be correct to think of Jews as being occupiers and thieves.

That's because the Ca'anites want (and are entitled to have) their nation back.

Whatever.

Don't be a demagouge. What kind of historical, legal (WT..?), military or moral claims do the Jews have to Israel that cannot be fulflled anywhere else?

Anyone who doesn't believe in the Tanach doesn't believe in the existence of the Jewish people, only a mutation of them.
That's because we, without G-D's promise, have the same "right" on this land just like the Arabs do, they've occupied it too and got back to this land about a 100 years ago.

What kind of historical, legal, military and moral claims do Jews have to Israel that can't be fulfilled anywhere else ?

Duh. JUST ABOUT EVERY ONE.

I can't believe you even need to ask.

Not to change the subject, how many user names/accounts do you have on this forum ? Is it more than one ? Or do you change your handle every day ?

Lisa, please accept my apologies for 'derailing' your thread. I think you do a great job around here.
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: IsraeliGovtAreKapos on December 23, 2009, 04:19:42 AM
                                                              בס"ד

                                                                            בס"ד

OK, have it your way.

The Torah justification for Israel is the sole legitimate justification.

The Jewish People don't have any historic, legal, military or moral claims to the land currently known as Israel.

And therefore, anyone that doesn't believe in the Bible would be correct to think of Jews as being occupiers and thieves.

That's because the Ca'anites want (and are entitled to have) their nation back.

Whatever.

Don't be a demagouge. What kind of historical, legal (WT..?), military or moral claims do the Jews have to Israel that cannot be fulflled anywhere else?

Anyone who doesn't believe in the Tanach doesn't believe in the existence of the Jewish people, only a mutation of them.
That's because we, without G-D's promise, have the same "right" on this land just like the Arabs do, they've occupied it too and got back to this land about a 100 years ago.

What kind of historical, legal, military and moral claims do Jews have to Israel that can't be fulfilled anywhere else ?

Duh. JUST ABOUT EVERY ONE.

I can't believe you even need to ask.

Not to change the subject, how many user names/accounts do you have on this forum ? Is it more than one ? Or do you change your handle every day ?

Lisa, please accept my apologies for 'derailing' your thread. I think you do a great job around here.

I don't need to. Just answer my question.

I have 100000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 accounts, happy? what kinda dumb question is that?
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: Muck DeFuslims on December 23, 2009, 04:39:06 AM
                                                              בס"ד

                                                                            בס"ד

OK, have it your way.

The Torah justification for Israel is the sole legitimate justification.

The Jewish People don't have any historic, legal, military or moral claims to the land currently known as Israel.

And therefore, anyone that doesn't believe in the Bible would be correct to think of Jews as being occupiers and thieves.

That's because the Ca'anites want (and are entitled to have) their nation back.

Whatever.

Don't be a demagouge. What kind of historical, legal (WT..?), military or moral claims do the Jews have to Israel that cannot be fulflled anywhere else?

Anyone who doesn't believe in the Tanach doesn't believe in the existence of the Jewish people, only a mutation of them.
That's because we, without G-D's promise, have the same "right" on this land just like the Arabs do, they've occupied it too and got back to this land about a 100 years ago.

What kind of historical, legal, military and moral claims do Jews have to Israel that can't be fulfilled anywhere else ?

Duh. JUST ABOUT EVERY ONE.

I can't believe you even need to ask.

Not to change the subject, how many user names/accounts do you have on this forum ? Is it more than one ? Or do you change your handle every day ?

Lisa, please accept my apologies for 'derailing' your thread. I think you do a great job around here.

I don't need to. Just answer my question.

I have 100000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 accounts, happy? what kinda dumb question is that?

You really can't be this dense.

Let's see. David and Solomon were Kings and built Temples in uhmmmm, Kenya.

Balfour, Peele and the White papers were applicable to land in uhmmmm, Bolivia.

In 1948 there was military conflict in uhmmmmm, Patterson, New Jersey.

The Jewish People trace their origins back to uhmmmmm, Mount Everest.

Hope that penetrates a little and helps clarify matters (although I'm beginning to doubt it).

And by the way, you having 10000000000000000000 accounts doesn't make me happy. In fact, it kind of irritates me, and I wouldn't be surprised if I'm not the only one that feels that way.

I think one account per person is enough, and the use of 'sock puppets', alter egos and continually changing your forum name is confusing and bad etiquette. 

But if the moderators don't have a problem with you having multiple accounts or changing your name every day, and if it makes you happy, go for it. But I think there should be some rules regarding this.
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: IsraeliGovtAreKapos on December 23, 2009, 04:56:50 AM
 
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You really can't be this dense.

See last paragraph.

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Let's see. David and Solomon were Kings and built Temples in uhmmmm, Kenya.

The Arabs were Caliphs and the Turks were Sultans in uhmmmmmmmmmmmm, Canada.

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Balfour,
Who gave the British the right on this land? the Balfour declaration was only a declaration of good will and nothing further than that.
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Peele
Which stated that most of our G-D given land and state should be a part of an Arab state (the Negev, Judea and Samaria, Gaza, and the Southern coast strip).
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White papers
See previous paragraphs, also, don't forget McDonald's one.

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In 1948 there was military conflict in uhmmmmm, Patterson, New Jersey.
Throught all history, the Arabs, the British, the Germans, the Turks, the Persians, and who not, were fighting over or land (from the River of Egypt to the Euphrates). Arabs are still living in most of our land, and they get more and more (I don't care if it's using warfare, demographics, economics or whatever).

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The Jewish People trace their origins back to uhmmmmm, Mount Everest.
Many Jews don't any spiritual/ideological connection to Israel. And their very tracing doesn't change anything, the Arabs feel the same to "Palestine" or whatever. Also, the Egyptian, Syrian, Iraqi, Lebanese, Jordanian and Saudi Arabs, and the Turks, feel the same towards the lands they're standing on, OUR lands. So what?


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And by the way, you having 10000000000000000000 accounts doesn't make me happy. In fact, it kind of irritates me, and I wouldn't be surprised if I'm not the only one that feels that way.

I think one account per person is enough, and the use of 'sock puppets', alter egos and continually changing your forum name is confusing and bad etiquette. 

But if the moderators don't have a problem with you having multiple accounts or changing your name every day, and if it makes you happy, go for it. But I think there should be some rules regarding this.
That was a joke. How can someone be so unbelieveably dumb?
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: Muck DeFuslims on December 23, 2009, 05:29:00 AM
OK, you're right, the Jewish People don't have any histrorical, legal, miltary or moral ties or rights to Israel. Whatever you say.

I'm not going to waste any more time arguing with you about that.

But there is another matter that we need to clear up. Right here and right now.

You may have been joking about having 1000000000000 accounts. But the fact is either you have multiple accounts or you have changed your name numerous times in a very short period of time. This might be a big joke to you, but it isn't to me and I don't think it should be to the administrators of this forum either.

Now I know you're one of Chaim's favorites and you seem to think that gives you carte blanche around here. I don't know, maybe it does. But I don't appreciate being called 'unbelievably dumb' by a 16 year old who evades the issue being raised about the juvenile antic of continually changing his screen name.

I've been here a long time, and try to engage in respectful debate and conversation. But that's just not possible with certain people. Judging by the confrontational, disruptive and combative nature of many of your posts, you might be one of them. I guess time will tell.

With that, I'm done with you for now. Have the last word.

Lisa, again, I apologize for stepping on your toes and derailing your thread. I enjoyed learning about you and your views and always enjoy your posts.
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: IsraeliGovtAreKapos on December 23, 2009, 05:41:11 AM
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OK, you're right, the Jewish People don't have any histrorical, legal, miltary or moral ties or rights to Israel. Whatever you say.

I'm not going to waste any more time arguing with you about that.

But there is another matter that we need to clear up. Right here and right now.

You may have been joking about having 1000000000000 accounts. But the fact is either you have multiple accounts or you have changed your name numerous times in a very short period of time. This might be a big joke to you, but it isn't to me and I don't think it should be to the administrators of this forum either.

Now I know you're one of Chaim's favorites and you seem to think that gives you carte blanche around here. I don't know, maybe it does. But I don't appreciate being called 'unbelievably dumb' by a 16 year old who evades the issue being raised about the juvenile antic of continually changing his screen name.

I've been here a long time, and try to engage in respectful debate and conversation. But that's just not possible with certain people. Judging by the confrontational, disruptive and combative nature of many of your posts, you might be one of them. I guess time will tell.

With that, I'm done with you for now. Have the last word.

Lisa, again, I apologize for stepping on your toes and derailing your thread. I enjoyed learning about you and your views and always enjoy your posts.


There's no law like this in the forum. I'm not the only who does it. Don't like it? tell it to Chaim or any other admin/mod. I don't like being called "dense" either. Whatever.
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: pennyjangle on December 23, 2009, 06:44:21 AM
Oh Pennyjangle, your puppy is precious!  Is that really all mucus on his face? 

No, that was his first snow.
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: mord on December 23, 2009, 08:19:54 AM
Yes Lisa that is why I asked becuase Churchill was anti semite also...maybe he was influenced by the anti semite literature all thru the years in britain. He was even more aggressive when it came to muslims..so who knows maybe he was a war monger and loved to find scapegoats. Surely he was better than the cowardly Chamberlain. I also find it interesting that the british places the jews right next to the muslims and that was a grave mistake in my opinion. I'm not saying Israel should never have happened but maybe it was not the right place, it could have been intentional to clash jews and muslims against each other. Who knows. The root of the problem is Jerusalem. Both religions wat that land muslims and jews and willing to fight for it. At least christians have given up on the land.
Thanks for your answer just wanted to get your perspective.
Churchill an Anti Semite? no

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3376884,00.html
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: IsraeliGovtAreKapos on December 23, 2009, 09:06:42 AM
                                                                בס"ד

Yes Lisa that is why I asked becuase Churchill was anti semite also...maybe he was influenced by the anti semite literature all thru the years in britain. He was even more aggressive when it came to muslims..so who knows maybe he was a war monger and loved to find scapegoats. Surely he was better than the cowardly Chamberlain. I also find it interesting that the british places the jews right next to the muslims and that was a grave mistake in my opinion. I'm not saying Israel should never have happened but maybe it was not the right place, it could have been intentional to clash jews and muslims against each other. Who knows. The root of the problem is Jerusalem. Both religions wat that land muslims and jews and willing to fight for it. At least christians have given up on the land.
Thanks for your answer just wanted to get your perspective.
Churchill an Anti Semite? no

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3376884,00.html

So you really think that the 1940's White Paper and so-called anti-Zionism and what the British did to the Jews aren't anti-Semitic?
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: mord on December 23, 2009, 09:15:55 AM
                                                                בס"ד

Yes Lisa that is why I asked becuase Churchill was anti semite also...maybe he was influenced by the anti semite literature all thru the years in britain. He was even more aggressive when it came to muslims..so who knows maybe he was a war monger and loved to find scapegoats. Surely he was better than the cowardly Chamberlain. I also find it interesting that the british places the jews right next to the muslims and that was a grave mistake in my opinion. I'm not saying Israel should never have happened but maybe it was not the right place, it could have been intentional to clash jews and muslims against each other. Who knows. The root of the problem is Jerusalem. Both religions wat that land muslims and jews and willing to fight for it. At least christians have given up on the land.
Thanks for your answer just wanted to get your perspective.
Churchill an Anti Semite? no

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3376884,00.html

So you really think that the 1940's White Paper and so-called anti-Zionism and what the British did to the Jews aren't anti-Semitic?
Read this short article           

http://hnn.us/articles/39017.html
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: Lisa on December 23, 2009, 09:21:22 AM
Muck, I don't think you've derailed my thread.  In fact, I enjoy your posts tremendously.  I would love it if you would post more often.
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: IsraeliGovtAreKapos on December 23, 2009, 09:37:11 AM
                                                                       בס"ד

                                                                בס"ד

Yes Lisa that is why I asked becuase Churchill was anti semite also...maybe he was influenced by the anti semite literature all thru the years in britain. He was even more aggressive when it came to muslims..so who knows maybe he was a war monger and loved to find scapegoats. Surely he was better than the cowardly Chamberlain. I also find it interesting that the british places the jews right next to the muslims and that was a grave mistake in my opinion. I'm not saying Israel should never have happened but maybe it was not the right place, it could have been intentional to clash jews and muslims against each other. Who knows. The root of the problem is Jerusalem. Both religions wat that land muslims and jews and willing to fight for it. At least christians have given up on the land.
Thanks for your answer just wanted to get your perspective.
Churchill an Anti Semite? no

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3376884,00.html

So you really think that the 1940's White Paper and so-called anti-Zionism and what the British did to the Jews aren't anti-Semitic?
Read this short article           

http://hnn.us/articles/39017.html

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1. The excision of Transjordan in 1922 from the territory in which the development of the Jewish National Home was to proceed was one of a number of decisions that was made during Churchill's visit to the region as Colonial Secretary, which included the creation of Iraq. Transjordan was then, as now, a largely arid tract of territory with no Jewish settlements. As such it was established as emirate for Abdullah, son of Sherif Hussein of Mecca and a British ally, by way of payment for services rendered during the First World War.
 
It was said by his deeply pro-Zionist political adviser, Richard Meinertzhagen, that Churchill saw the force of his argument that this decision deprived Zionism of room for development, but by then the decision had been made and could not be undone. Undoubtedly to Zionism's loss, the decision was not aimed at harming the movement, support for which was in fact reaffirmed as being unchangeable British policy in the 1922 White Paper. Nonetheless, it is a justified point that Churchill's decision caused a major part of Palestine to be lost to Zionism.

That's a complete twist of history and a total ignore of the the McMahon-Hussein agreement.

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2. It is perfectly true that upon becoming Prime Minister in May 1940, Churchill did not overturn the 1939 White Paper, whose terms he had so eloquently denounced at the time in the Commons. The White Paper was retained because such was then the weakness of the British position that disowning it at that point was thought likely to precipitate a calamitous Arab revolt. This was probably a mistaken calculation, but in the circumstances of May 1940, it prevailed.
 
However, the question remains as to why Churchill did not discard it later and it was one I put to the Churchill biographer, Martin Gilbert, when I interviewed him in 1987. He responded that, from the outset, Churchill fought a Cabinet almost uniformly hostile to permitting Jewish refugees into Palestine. When Churchill was effectively overruled on this point by the Cabinet in March 1942, he and his Colonial Secretary, Lord Cranborne, bypassed its decision by devising a new policy that, contrary to the White Paper, permitted all Jews who might arrive in Palestine to stay there. The arrival of so few Jews and the failure to fill even the existing 15,000 annual quota was attributed by Gilbert to the virtual impossibility that by then existed for Jews to escape from Europe, which, he noted, the Mufti of Jerusalem, a  Nazi collaborator, worked hard to achieve.
 
When the White Paper's absolute ban on Jewish immigration was due to come into effect in May 1944, Churchill refused to sign it into law. Gilbert's 1993 address, "Churchill and the Holocaust: The Possible and the Impossible," concisely elaborates this and other matters which, viewed in combination, provides a different picture to that of unfulfilled friendship and sympathy.
 
To name some further significant facts: as First Lord of the Admiralty (1939-40) Churchill ended the practice of Royal Navy vessels intercepting refugee ships bound for Palestine when he discovered the  Foreign Office and Colonial Office had initiated this policy without his knowledge. When the British Commander in the Middle East, General Archibald Wavell, sought to have deported  from Palestine a group of Jewish refugees who had entered the country aboard the Patria, Churchill intervened to prevent it. He also pressured a BBC that was then reluctant to report on the Nazi targeting of Jews for murder, to do so.
 
In January 1944, Churchill's Cabinet approved in principle a new partition plan for Palestine, which was due for adoption in the very week in November 1944 that the British Minister of State in the Middle East and Churchill's friend, Lord Moyne, was assassinated by Lehi (Stern Gang) members. Churchill's support of Zionism thereafter became subdued but endured and he withstood demands at home for a military crackdown on the Jewish community in Palestine. The Cabinet however shelved partition.
 
The same year, in the face of persistent opposition from the British military establishment, Churchill pushed through the creation of a Jewish military force. Indeed, such was the perception of his concern for Jewish causes that, on two  occasions, callous members of his own inner staff withheld from him Jewish requests out of fear that he would respond positively to them. In short, Churchill, virtually singled-handedly, fought an indifferent and hostile bureaucracy to help the Jews and Zionism.


A.) The military force they organized was limited both in its size and its so-called freedom. The British forced the divisions they "permitted" to build to accept the so-called morals and ethics the Israelis have shown in Gaza and Lebanon, even worse ones, of restrainting the Arab terror.

B.) That's only an excuse of a PM being controlled by its own ministers, pathetic.

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3. Gilbert has explained in Auschwitz and the Allies that the failure of the RAF to bomb Auschwitz et al. was the result of its commanders overriding Churchill's directives on sometimes spurious logistical grounds. The farhud in Baghdad was permitted to occur due largely to the defective judgement of the British ambassador, Sir Kinahan Cornwallis and Wavell, not Churchill, who at one stage even had to prod the latter to use the forces at his disposal to establish British authority in Iraq. Elie Kedourie has a typically authoritative account of these matters in the last two chapters of his Arabic Political Memoirs and Other Studies.
 
Therefore, we are not to conclude that Churchill was a poor friend of the Jews or that he had lost control of his own government. Rather, even the most formidable of democratic war leaders have to contend with contrarily-minded bureaucracies and must perforce delegate important decisions to diplomats and commanders in the field. So much of the tragedy (and glory) of history is the role played by individuals in the situations they find themselves.


1.) The Farhood happened way after il-Gaylani was gangbanged by the British.
2.) The Brits had good chances to do many times, including when the Soviets were right next to the Wisla river.

I've read it quite briefly cause am quite tired.
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: mord on December 23, 2009, 09:55:03 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McMahon%E2%80%93Hussein_Correspondence   







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The debate regarding Palestine derived from the fact that it is not explicitly mentioned in the McMahon–Hussein Correspondence, but is included within the boundaries that were proposed by Hussein. Whatever McMahon had meant to say is irrelevant, because the actual terms used contained the pledges. Under customary treaty law, binding obligations are seldom supported by an Argument from silence.

The Arab position was that "portions of Syria lying to the west of the districts of Damascus, Homs, Hama and Aleppo..." could not refer to Palestine since that lay well to the south of the named places.
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks on December 23, 2009, 12:09:33 PM
So you really think that the 1940's White Paper and so-called anti-Zionism and what the British did to the Jews aren't anti-Semitic?
I have to agree with Ron on this one. The question is what did the British ever do that isn't anti-Semitic.
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: Zelhar on December 23, 2009, 12:26:46 PM
So you really think that the 1940's White Paper and so-called anti-Zionism and what the British did to the Jews aren't anti-Semitic?
I have to agree with Ron on this one. The question is what did the British ever do that isn't anti-Semitic.
I don't know if Churchill was a Jew hater, but he had repeatedly screwed the Jews.
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: Confederate Kahanist on December 29, 2009, 02:12:49 PM
Give us your latest affirmative action story.
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: Lisa on December 29, 2009, 02:36:45 PM
Give us your latest affirmative action story.

Let me think on that one, and I'll give you a story. 
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: Lisa on December 29, 2009, 09:41:49 PM
OK Confederate Kahanist, here are some AA stories for you.

About a year ago, I was in Forest Hills walking on Queens Blvd.  I had a day off from work.  So I'm walking on this loud street when my cell phone rings.  So I answered it.  This woman proceeded to ask for me.  When I asked her name, she said defensively "Shak-leen!"  She was responding to a resume I posted on Craigslist for some kind of executive assistant position. 

Anyway, I was really having trouble hearing her.  Also, I didn't feel comfortable going through a phone interview smack on Queens Blvd.  So I asked her if I could call her back when I got home.  So she gave me her number and the hours she was available. 

The next morning, I called her. 

She then went on to say that out of "X" number of letters/resumes, mine was one of "X" amount chosen because I followed the directions of the ad.  Then she started giving a spiel about how the people she places in jobs stay "x" amount of years at the company. 

Then she asked me to rate certain skills on a scale of 1-10, which I proceeded to do.  Then she got to Microsoft Excel, which I'm fairly good at.  So I gave myself an 8.  I mean in past jobs, I was able to make spreadsheets with calculations.  Then she asked about pivot tables, which I know nothing about, so I said "zero."  I tried to explain that I was otherwise proficient in Excel, but that I didn't know about pivot table, but that I could learn, etc.

Then she snapped "Give me a number!  One to ten!

So I said "five." 

Finally she said she wasn't going to proceed with the interview since I wasn't qualified enough. 

Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: Lisa on December 29, 2009, 09:48:38 PM
Here's another AA story. 

I used to live on the Upper East Side of Manhattan. So one day, I decided to pick up some medicine from a pharmacy that was right near the subway on Lexington Avenue.  It's something that I take regularly.  So I decided to use the automated phone service to request a refill.  That was easy enough.  I followed all the prompts and got a recorded message saying that my refill order would be processed shortly. 

Anyway, I got to the drugstore and went to the pharmacy to request a refill.  The AA clerks looked at me like I was from Mars.  They were like "we don't have record of you requesting such a refill."  So I basically had to give these ditzes my refill request all over again, and then come back later to get my refill.  This happened on two other occasions. 

Anyway, that was the end of me going there.

I've been going to CVS ever since then.  And just so you know, I went to CVS one night and dealt with a very nice Asian clerk.  He said it would be a while before I could get my refill.  I then told him I had to leave on a business trip early the next morning.  So he said to me "Don't worry.  I get off here at 4:00 a.m.  I'll personally drop off the refill at your apartment."  And he did just that! 
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: Lisa on December 29, 2009, 10:00:29 PM
Here's another affirmative action for you, Confederate Kahanist.  Unfortunately, this one is not funny at all. 

A couple of years ago, I woke up feeling very nauseous.  And of course I threw up, which I hate doing.  Afterwards, I found myself feeling very thirsty, so I drank something.  I threw up shortly after that.  Apparently, I wasn't able to keep anything down.  So after a few more bouts of vomitting, I decided to go to New York Presbyterian Hospital, which was in my neighborhood.  I had a good experience with them a few years earlier when I went in one night with stomach pains and nausea.  The very nice nurse immediately gave me an IV drip with anti-nausea medicine. 

Anyway, this time, things were completely different.  I was throwing up so much that the bones in my legs ached. 

Finally, a young AA nurse practitioner saw me.  But he refused to give me the IV drip until he could get a blood sample.  Now mind you, I had already thrown up while waiting in the ER lobby.  So I didn't think I could take much more.  When I asked him why he didn't want to give me the IV drip, he said he wanted to make sure I wasn't pregnant, at which point I really lost it.  I tried explaining to him that there was no way I could be pregnant since I hadn't been with anyone in ages.  And do you know what he said to that?

"I don't need to know the details of your personal life."

Then he tried to get blood out of my arm.  He tried poking and poking, but my veins were all closed.  There was no blood or any other body fluid to be had.  Finally, his supervisor came to try and get some blood.  She finally managed to get a little bit out of this vein on my left hand.  But even that was difficult.  She had to squeeze my hand for the blood to come out. 

After that, I finally got the IV drip.  They ended up sticking it in my left hand. 
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: Confederate Kahanist on December 30, 2009, 03:15:36 PM
Those were all pretty good stories.  Thanks for sharing!!!!
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: looserivet on December 30, 2009, 06:21:55 PM
So you really think that the 1940's White Paper and so-called anti-Zionism and what the British did to the Jews aren't anti-Semitic?
I have to agree with Ron on this one. The question is what did the British ever do that isn't anti-Semitic.

Well after a very short search;
"JERUSALEM, Nov. 30--More than 2,000 Polish Jews, most of whom have been supported in Palestine since 1941 by the British Government to the extent of more than $3,000,000, will have to look elsewhere for support after Jan. 1, it was learned today."
http://select.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=F30C11F73F5C10728DDDA80894DA415B8588F1D3 (http://select.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=F30C11F73F5C10728DDDA80894DA415B8588F1D3)

"Towards the end of 1942, when it got known that the European Jewry was being annihilated by the Germans, the British bowed to world opinion and handed out Palestinian visas for 5000 children from Balkan countries. With money collected by the American “Joint” (Joint Distribution Committee) and the Jewish Agency, the representatives in Istanbul chartered ships and, in 1944, brought more than 5000 Jewish children, accompanied by fugitives of other ages, from Rumania and Bulgaria to Istanbul, and from there transported them by train to Palestine.
These same representatives succeeded in establishing a sea route from the Greek Aegean coast to the port of Izmir in Turkey after arriving to an understanding with the Turkish authorities and the British agents - a route which was to save more than 1000 Greek Jews from the Germans. This action, which was made possible with the aid of the Jewish community of Izmir, has not been recorded anywhere so far as I know, and I feel it my personal duty to tell its story:

During those days, the British and the Americans operated in a little town called Cheshme about 50 km to the west of Izmir, a communication center which served to gather information about Greek partisans fighting the Germans and about British Air Force pilots or prisoners of war who succeeded in escaping the Germans. This center was of great use in sending aid to the escapees.

Since 1940 there already existed some sort of cooperation between the British S.O.E.(Special Operations Executive) and the Jewish Hagana of Palestine. The British were very much interested in the operation of Jewish parachutists from Palestine behind the German lines, while the Jews in Palestine wanted to save European Jews from German hands. Thus 32 Jewish parachutists, three of them women, were dropped by British planes behind German lines. Some succeeded in accomplishing their missions, but some of them were executed by the Germans
This cooperation started also in the Aegean Sea. A hundred kilometers west of Cheshme exists the island of Evoya, then occupied by German forces. The island stretches from the north-west to the south-east and from its southernmost tip, the distance to Cheshme is only 50 km. During the daytime the island was under German control but the moment darkness set in, the 7th battalion of the Greek Ellas forces passed information to the center in Cheshme and brought British escapees in small boats. At this point, the representative of the political bureau of the Jewish Agency, Reuben Zaslani (Shiloah) contacted Comdr. Tony Sanders of the S.O.E. in Cairo and his representative in Istanbul, Comdr. Wofson. The communication between Greece and Cheshme was of great interest to Zaslani and his superior, Shaul Meyerov (Avigur.)"
http://www.sefarad.org/publication/lm/050/html/page20.html (http://www.sefarad.org/publication/lm/050/html/page20.html)

"Shawcross's advocacy before the Nuremberg Trial was passionate. His most famous line was:

    "There comes a point when a man must refuse to answer to his leader if he is also to answer to his own conscience."

He avoided the crusading style of American, Russian and French prosecutors. Shawcross's opening speech, which lasted two days, sought to undermine any belief that the Nuremberg Trials were victor's justice (an exacted vengeance against defeated foes). Instead, he focused on the rule of law and he demonstrated that the laws that the defendants had broken, expressed in international treaties and agreements, were those to which pre-war Germany had been a party. In his closing speech, he ridiculed any notion that any of the defendants could have remained ignorant of the thousands of Germans exterminated because they were old or mentally ill. He used the same argument for the millions of other people "annihilated in the gas chambers or by shooting" and he maintained that each of the 22 defendants was a party to "common murder in its most ruthless forms".

Thus Shawcross' advocacy was instrumental in obtaining convictions against the remaining Nazi leadership, on grounds which were perceived as fair and lawful."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hartley_Shawcross,_Baron_Shawcross (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hartley_Shawcross,_Baron_Shawcross)

"British arms exports to Israel double in a year"
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2006/jul/25/israel.armstrade (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2006/jul/25/israel.armstrade)

"The idea of Jewish restoration was not alien to British culture. In 1621, the British MP Sir Henry Finch wrote a book entitled "The World's Great Restoration." He encouraged  Jews to reassert their claim to the Holy Land, writing,"
http://www.mideastweb.org/britzion.htm (http://www.mideastweb.org/britzion.htm)

"Shortly after his election in 1997, Blair shamelessly appointed a friend, Michael Levy, a wealthy Jewish businessman who had fundraised for new Labour, as his "special envoy" in the Middle East, having first made him Lord Levy. This former chairman of the Jewish Appeal Board and former board member of the Jewish Agency, who has both a business and a house in Israel and had a son working for the Israeli justice minister, was the man assigned by Britain's Prime Minister to negotiate impartially with Palestinians and Israelis.

Under Blair, British support for Israeli repression has accelerated. Last year alone, the government approved 91 arms export licences to Israel, in categories that included ammunition, bombs, torpedoes, rockets, missiles, combat vessels, military electronic and imaging equipment and armoured vehicles. In answer to questions from George Galloway MP, the Foreign Office minister Ben Bradshaw said there was "no evidence" that British arms and equipment had been used against the Palestinians. There is abundant evidence, such as Amnesty's report that the Apache helicopters used to attack the Palestinians are kept flying with British parts. (Bradshaw is an active member of Labour Friends of Israel, which has arranged for 57 Labour MPs to visit Israel, the largest number of MPs from any British government.)"
http://www.middleeast.org/read.cgi?category=Magazine&num=581&standalone=&month=1&year=2002&function=text (http://www.middleeast.org/read.cgi?category=Magazine&num=581&standalone=&month=1&year=2002&function=text)

"JERUSALEM — Prime Minister Brown will pledge "unbreakable" support to Israel today while launching his strongest attack yet on Iran."
http://www.nysun.com/foreign/britain-premier-vows-unbreakable-support-to-israel/82231/ (http://www.nysun.com/foreign/britain-premier-vows-unbreakable-support-to-israel/82231/)
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: Lisa on December 30, 2009, 08:57:02 PM
Interesting links, Looserivet.  Thanks for sharing. 
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: JTFenthusiast2 on January 15, 2010, 03:55:26 PM
Lisa,

Your answer to Dr. Brennan fan re: Tiger Woods: perfecto!
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: Lisa on January 15, 2010, 05:32:16 PM
Thank you JTF Enthusiast.
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: JTFenthusiast2 on January 16, 2010, 04:39:30 PM
I love sushi too.  I am from NYC as well, though I'm not living there now.  There used to be some really good places in the East village that were reasonable with respect to price.  Is sushi kosher?  Seriously, I don't know.  Where I live now, there is one sushi place and it is sooo expensive and the cost is near prohibitive. I will be back in NYC in July and that's just one thing that I miss out of so many
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: Lisa on January 16, 2010, 05:02:32 PM
Hi JTF Enthusiast.

If you're strictly kosher, you can't eat in any restaurant that's not glatt.  The Cho-Sen Garden in Forest Hills serves good sushi, as I'm sure the Cho-Sen Village in Great Neck does.  There was also a glatt kosher Japanese place on East 53rd Street in Manhattan, but I don't remember the name or if they're still around.  I ate there once.  It was OK. 

If not, you can have the tuna, salmon, salmon roe, yellowtail, fluke, mackerel and fake crab (made from cod, egg whites and various spices). 

There used to be this really good restaurant in the East Village called Iso, which was a bit on the pricey side.  I don't know if it's still around though. 

Also, once you know which dates you'll be in New York City this July, please send me a private message.  I'll organize a get together so you can meet you fellow JTF'ers. 
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: Christian Zionist on January 16, 2010, 05:45:26 PM
Shalom Lisa!

How many people have visited your blog http://www.theurbangrind.net/ so far?   On an average, how many visitors do you get per month?

How would you describe the impact that your blog has had so far on readers?

Thanks!

Christian Zionist!
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: Lisa on January 16, 2010, 05:58:16 PM
Hi Christian Zionist!

My Sitemeter shows that I've gotten 565,390 visitors since I've had my own domain.  This doesn't include the traffic from when I was on Blogger.  I get between 100 and 200 visitors a day lately.  And I haven't really been posting stuff consistently.  I'm just burned out on blogging. 

I don't know about the impact the blog has had on readers.  After all, there are so many blogs.  It's not like I get that much traffic or that I'm the first to break some kind of news.  I do have some regular commenters who are interested in what I write, which is flattering.  Also, I managed to make friends with people with whom I would normally never meet face to face. 
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: JTFenthusiast2 on January 16, 2010, 06:22:10 PM
Lisa,

I went to your website!  That is a terrific website, really interesting and engaging.  I was flipping through it for almost an hour.  Wow, you are one talented person. 
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: Lisa on January 16, 2010, 06:26:52 PM
Why thank you, JTF Enthusiast!
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: Spiraling Leopard on January 27, 2010, 03:14:29 PM
How did you first met Chaim and what happened then?
How many times do you meet Chaim nowadays?
Do you think obama is ugly?
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: Spiraling Leopard on January 27, 2010, 03:55:54 PM
Do you like Elvis Costello?
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: Lisa on January 27, 2010, 05:29:07 PM
Hi Bio-Electric Apprentice,

I met Chaim in person for the first time last November, when I organized the first JTF get together.  I remember how everyone was bummed that Obama got elected.  I also remember how I didn't want to face Obama supporters and have to deal with their gloating.  So that was the impetus for me to organize the first JTF get together.  The get together was at a glatt kosher restaurant in Queens.  Everyone there was excited to meet Chaim, myself included of course.  There were about twelve of us.  It was so nice to be able to connect a face to the forum user names, and meet the others in person. 

As for Elvis Costello, his music is not bad. 



Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: YimachShemotoIslam on January 31, 2010, 09:12:03 AM
Dear Lisa, have you met any Arabs righteous or not?

Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: IsraeliGovtAreKapos on January 31, 2010, 09:16:02 AM
                                                                   בס"ד

Why most Jews in the US are cowards?
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: Lisa on January 31, 2010, 09:20:24 AM
Dear Lisa, have you met any Arabs righteous or not?



Hi YimachShemotoIslam,

The only Arabs I met was when I did a summer semester my junior year of college in France.  There was a French/Lebanese girl in our dorm.  But the only way I came into contact with her was because I was briefly friendly with a Jewish girl named S.  S. was very chummy with the Lebanese girl.  I wasn't.  

Also that summer, my roommate became good friends with a black girl in the program named A.  Somehow, A. hooked up with this Arab guy, who seemed skeevy to me.  But A. was smitten with him.

I also met some Iranian Muslims due to my father's line of work.  They seemed very nice and all.  But on the other hand, I would never discuss Israel and the ME with them.  

Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: Lisa on January 31, 2010, 09:27:16 AM
                                                                   בס"ד

Why most Jews in the US are cowards?

Ron, that's a complex question.  I'll answer you a little bit here, and then I'll send you a private message as well. 

A while back, I asked a similar type of question to a Jewish professor.  I wanted to know how it was that Jews, who are so smart as individuals could be so stupid in matters dealing with their survival as a group.  I told him I was surprised that there were any Jews left, being that Jews as a group make self destructive choices.  He told me that such a strategy actually served them well, but he never explained why. 

I'll send you a private message in a little while.
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: GoIsraelGo! on January 31, 2010, 09:51:33 AM
Hi Lisa... I don't have any question for you.

I just wanted to say Hello, and I have always know what an amazing woman you are...you work hard and still find time to be the Administrator for our Wonderful Forum!

Lisa, you are appreciated!



                                                   Shalom & May G-d Bless you


                                                                    Dox
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: Lisa on January 31, 2010, 10:00:01 AM
Hi Lisa... I don't have any question for you.

I just wanted to say Hello, and I have always know what an amazing woman you are...you work hard and still find time to be the Administrator for our Wonderful Forum!

Lisa, you are appreciated!



                                                   Shalom & May G-d Bless you

Thank you for the kind words, Republican Dox!


                                                                    Dox
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: YimachShemotoIslam on January 31, 2010, 07:08:01 PM
Dear Lisa, why did most Jews voted for Barack Osama? Are they crazy?

Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: Lisa on January 31, 2010, 07:18:17 PM
Hi YimachShemotoIslam,

The short answer to your question is yes. 

The fact is that many American Jews have this insane devotion to the Democratic Party?  It borders on idolatry.  I really don't understand why.  It was either during the Roosevelt or Truman administration that a boat load of Jews fleeing nazi Germany was turned away.  They refused to bomb the rail lines leading to Auschwitz. 

Now granted, Truman did officially recognize the state of Israel.  But privately, he was no lover of Jewish people. 

Unfortunately, many American Jews don't care about Israel.  Or, they will mistakenly believe that Israel giving up land is a good thing, and there's no other choice.  That's the only reason I can think of to explain why they voted en-masse for Obama. 

On my Jews Against Obama blog, I've had liberal Jews tell me that I'm crazy and a racist.  One guy named Moshe even wrote that Obama will cause the Star of David to rise over Jerusalem.  And all this despite Obama's sleazy connections to fakestinian supporters and terrorists. 

One good thing that might come out of this is that Jews will no longer be called "Israel Firsters" since so many of them voted for Obama.  But on the other hand, some people will call them that anyway, being that people like Rahm Emanuel and David Axelrod are Jewish by birth.  So then again, nothing good might come out of this. 

I think anti-semites will always blame Jews for the ills of this country no matter what.  If 88% of Jews voted for McCain, you can be sure that they would be accused of being neo-con Israel Firsters who want Christian boys to die for Israel in wars they start.  As it is now, they fault Jews for supporting Obama, even though they support him too.  Go figure!
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: Spiraling Leopard on February 01, 2010, 01:59:23 PM
I tried explaining to him that there was no way I could be pregnant since I hadn't been with anyone in ages.

Hurray for Lisa!
Longterm, usefull celibacy is such a good virtue!
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: YimachShemotoIslam on February 01, 2010, 03:22:57 PM
Dear Lisa do you believe that pro-Israel Muslims do exist?

Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: Lisa on February 02, 2010, 12:55:43 PM
Dear Lisa do you believe that pro-Israel Muslims do exist?


There may be less than 1% of them. 

For example, there was the case of some Bangladeshi Muslim man who wanted to visit Israel, and got into all kinds of trouble with the government.  Here's an article on the man:

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2006/09/bangladeshi-muslim-editor-faces-sedition-charge-death-penalty-for-pro-israel-views.html

Then there's that Italian Muslim convert Sheikh Palazzi. 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abdul_Hadi_Palazzi

Here's another link where Sheikh Palazzi brings up links in the Koran saying Israel belongs to the Jews:

http://www.amislam.com/abigen.htm

However, I haven't read any news of him defending Israel's Operation Cast Lead.  So make of it what you will.

On another note, my Islamophilic brother in law once told me of an Iranian Jewish radio station that broadcasts into Los Angeles, or nearby.  So one time, my b.i.l. was telling me that he heard of some expatriot Iranian Muslims who *wanted* Israel to destroy Iran's nuclear program. 

Now I've never met any expat Iranian non-Jews who said anything like that to me.  So again, make of that what you will. 
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: Cato on February 02, 2010, 03:20:16 PM
So you really think that the 1940's White Paper and so-called anti-Zionism and what the British did to the Jews aren't anti-Semitic?
I have to agree with Ron on this one. The question is what did the British ever do that isn't anti-Semitic.
The descendants of ten thousand Jewish children, at least one of whom has contributed to this forum, would disagree -
http://www.kindertransport.org/
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: looserivet on February 02, 2010, 04:54:58 PM
So you really think that the 1940's White Paper and so-called anti-Zionism and what the British did to the Jews aren't anti-Semitic?
I have to agree with Ron on this one. The question is what did the British ever do that isn't anti-Semitic.
The descendants of ten thousand Jewish children, at least one of whom has contributed to this forum, would disagree -
http://www.kindertransport.org/

Good find, I didn't know that.
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: YimachShemotoIslam on February 02, 2010, 05:01:24 PM
Dear Lisa, is it possible to have more than one religion? For example being both Christian and Buddhist?

Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: Lisa on February 02, 2010, 05:26:16 PM
Dear Lisa, is it possible to have more than one religion? For example being both Christian and Buddhist?



I know that with Judaism, you're either Jewish (if you have a Jewish mother, or if you converted according to Halacha) or you're not. 

Now I'm not a Christian, so I can't say if it's possible to be Christian and Buddhist at the same time.  Perhaps some of the Christian members can elaborate on this.  As far as Buddhism, I don't think that's monotheistic faith, so they probably wouldn't care if you followed some other religion, along with Buddhism.  But then again, I could be wrong. 

Anyway, your question reminds me of something I read last year about a black female Episcopalian reverend who also became a Muslim.  For a while, she was practicing both religions.  But then she got defrocked:

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2003751274_redding17m.html

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2008961581_webdefrocked01m.html
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: Rubystars on February 03, 2010, 10:08:13 AM
Christians believe you can't serve two masters. You can't take a non-Biblical religion and mix it with a Biblical religion. G-d is a jealous G-d. There are people who try it but you can't believe opposite things unless you compartmentalize your mind and you're not really being true to one or the other.

There have been many people who say they are Christian and witches, but that's an invalid combination because the Bible says that witchcraft is an abomination worthy of death.

There have been many people who say they are Christian and Buddhist but following Buddha and honoring Buddha statues is a form of idolatry in Christian eyes.

There's a Christian Scripture that says "So then because you are lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spew you out of my mouth."

Sorry if posting that offends anyone but I was trying to answer the question.

Islam teaches to murder all non-Muslims, so of course it's not compatible with anything.
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: Lisa on February 03, 2010, 11:46:32 AM
Thanks for the information, Rubystars. 
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: ProudToBeSerb on February 03, 2010, 04:03:15 PM
Oh no.  I'm a Jew living in New York.  I think you might have me confused with someone else.  But I definitely support the Serbs.   ;D ;D ;D

Why are you supporting Serbia???
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: Lisa on February 03, 2010, 05:18:54 PM
Proud to be Serb, I was ignorant about the situation in the Balkans until I found JTF. 

I support the Serbs because they were America's loyal ally in both World Wars.  During World War II, I understand that the Serbs protected American soldiers, whereas the Bosnian Muslims turned them over to the SS. 

I also support them because I see their situation as similar to those of the Jews in Israel. 
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: ProudToBeSerb on February 03, 2010, 07:45:53 PM
Proud to be Serb, I was ignorant about the situation in the Balkans until I found JTF. 

I support the Serbs because they were America's loyal ally in both World Wars.  During World War II, I understand that the Serbs protected American soldiers, whereas the Bosnian Muslims turned them over to the SS. 

I also support them because I see their situation as similar to those of the Jews in Israel. 

Some people have hide the jews in their houses(there were a death penalty for that),other jews who could fight were in our army, and yes we have saved the american soldiers who were crashed in our country. But sad thing is that people forgot that stuf and when someone put a bad and false propaganda we became a barbarian monsters and genocidal people with long beards and knives in their teeth who are killing enyone who is not a Serb. I'm glad that some people know the truth and support us, thank you very much for that... Kisses from Serbia  :***
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: Lisa on February 03, 2010, 08:44:41 PM
Proud to be Serb, I was ignorant about the situation in the Balkans until I found JTF. 

I support the Serbs because they were America's loyal ally in both World Wars.  During World War II, I understand that the Serbs protected American soldiers, whereas the Bosnian Muslims turned them over to the SS. 

I also support them because I see their situation as similar to those of the Jews in Israel. 

Some people have hide the jews in their houses(there were a death penalty for that),other jews who could fight were in our army, and yes we have saved the american soldiers who were crashed in our country. But sad thing is that people forgot that stuf and when someone put a bad and false propaganda we became a barbarian monsters and genocidal people with long beards and knives in their teeth who are killing enyone who is not a Serb. I'm glad that some people know the truth and support us, thank you very much for that... Kisses from Serbia  :***

ProudtoBeSerb, are you familiar with the blogger Julia Gorin?  She's a right leaning Jewish woman who is very pro-Serb.  She also knows the history of the Balkans very well. 
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: Edward on February 04, 2010, 06:11:42 AM
Hi Lisa!
what is your opinion of Angela Merkel?
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: ProudToBeSerb on February 04, 2010, 12:39:11 PM
Proud to be Serb, I was ignorant about the situation in the Balkans until I found JTF. 

I support the Serbs because they were America's loyal ally in both World Wars.  During World War II, I understand that the Serbs protected American soldiers, whereas the Bosnian Muslims turned them over to the SS. 

I also support them because I see their situation as similar to those of the Jews in Israel. 

Some people have hide the jews in their houses(there were a death penalty for that),other jews who could fight were in our army, and yes we have saved the american soldiers who were crashed in our country. But sad thing is that people forgot that stuf and when someone put a bad and false propaganda we became a barbarian monsters and genocidal people with long beards and knives in their teeth who are killing enyone who is not a Serb. I'm glad that some people know the truth and support us, thank you very much for that... Kisses from Serbia  :***

ProudtoBeSerb, are you familiar with the blogger Julia Gorin?  She's a right leaning Jewish woman who is very pro-Serb.  She also knows the history of the Balkans very well. 

She have some blogs on save Serbia but I'm not in any kind of contact with her...
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: Lisa on February 04, 2010, 05:34:33 PM
Hi Lisa!
what is your opinion of Angela Merkel?

Hi Edward!

My opinion of Angele Merkel is mixed.  On the one hand, I like that she has spoken out against Iran having nukes.  She also criticized Pope Benedict for reinstating that Holocaust denying bishop.  She seems to generally be for good relations with the state of Israel.  However, she has spoken out against Israeli "settlements" in Judea, Samaria and Gaza, which I don't like. 

Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: YimachShemotoIslam on February 04, 2010, 07:07:28 PM
Dear Lisa, would you consider Malaysia a Third World or First World country? The country has First World commodities like shopping malls, skyscrapers, and expressways.

Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: GoIsraelGo! on February 04, 2010, 10:13:56 PM
Lisa, I still don't have any questions... I hope it's ok to comment on Yimach's profile quote on your tread.

Thanks Lisa !

Yimach....excellent quote on your profile!  Nice to see the ABSOLUTE TRUTH posted.


"You can’t teach a monkey to speak and you can’t teach an Arab to be democratic. You’re dealing with a culture of thieves and robbers. Muhammad, their prophet, was a robber and a killer and a liar. The Arab destroys everything he touches!"
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: Lisa on February 07, 2010, 06:51:26 PM
Hi Yimach,

I would have to call Malaysia a Third World, or a developing country. 

Although a country has some modern commodities like skyscrapers and shopping malls, that's not all there is to being a First World country.  An example of this is Saudi Arabia.  They make loads of money exporting their oil.  But their people are very poor. 

By definition, Third World countries are those that were never aligned with the First World countries of NATO, or the USSR.  Many of these countries were also colonial subjects of First World countries like Britain, like Malaysia.  They're also characterized by poverty, high birth rates, disease, illiteracy, and economic dependence on First World countries. 
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: Zelhar on February 08, 2010, 04:39:28 AM
The reason why Malesia is semi-developed is 40% of its citizens are Chinese and Hindu non-muslims. They carry the economy on their shoulders even though the spiteful lazy malay muslims severely discriminate against them.

BTW, the ethnic Chinese in Indonesia are a major if not dominant force in that country economy as well, and naturally they are also facing persecution and discrimination by the lazy muslims.
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: YimachShemotoIslam on February 08, 2010, 03:23:03 PM
Hi Yimach,

I would have to call Malaysia a Third World, or a developing country. 

Although a country has some modern commodities like skyscrapers and shopping malls, that's not all there is to being a First World country.  An example of this is Saudi Arabia.  They make loads of money exporting their oil.  But their people are very poor. 

By definition, Third World countries are those that were never aligned with the First World countries of NATO, or the USSR.  Many of these countries were also colonial subjects of First World countries like Britain, like Malaysia.  They're also characterized by poverty, high birth rates, disease, illiteracy, and economic dependence on First World countries. 

Thanks for answering my question about Malaysia, Lisa. I wonder a Malaysia without the Chinese and Indians would be like.
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: Lisa on February 08, 2010, 05:11:50 PM
Hi Yimach,

I would have to call Malaysia a Third World, or a developing country. 

Although a country has some modern commodities like skyscrapers and shopping malls, that's not all there is to being a First World country.  An example of this is Saudi Arabia.  They make loads of money exporting their oil.  But their people are very poor. 

By definition, Third World countries are those that were never aligned with the First World countries of NATO, or the USSR.  Many of these countries were also colonial subjects of First World countries like Britain, like Malaysia.  They're also characterized by poverty, high birth rates, disease, illiteracy, and economic dependence on First World countries. 

Thanks for answering my question about Malaysia, Lisa. I wonder a Malaysia without the Chinese and Indians would be like.


No doubt such a Malaysia would like the rest of the dumps in the M.E. 
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: Edward on February 10, 2010, 07:53:46 AM
Lisa, How does it feel livin' in New-York city? I remember the first time I visited it, I was about 12 years old.. It was quite a shock for me.. So much noise, so many people of all colors and races... So many cars, buildings, skyscrapers..... For a country boy, born and raised in Oak Grove, New York is sure too much....
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: Cato on February 10, 2010, 08:18:11 AM
The reason why Malesia is semi-developed is 40% of its citizens are Chinese and Hindu non-muslims. They carry the economy on their shoulders even though the spiteful lazy malay muslims severely discriminate against them.

BTW, the ethnic Chinese in Indonesia are a major if not dominant force in that country economy as well, and naturally they are also facing persecution and discrimination by the lazy muslims.

Here is a Malaysian Muslim woman sentenced to six lashes for drinking beer. Being a UN employee, she could have walked free, but didn't. She could have appealled, but didn't. She wants her lashing to be performed in public, but that has been denied.
The punishment is still under suspension, at first for Ramadan but now probably in response to international outrage.

http://edition.cnn.com/video/#/video/world/2009/08/24/coren.malaysia.model.caning.cnn
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: YimachShemotoIslam on February 11, 2010, 06:56:23 AM
Dear Lisa, a Gentile friend once told me that Jews don't believe and that you have to be a Christian to believe in God. What is your take on this?

Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: Lisa on February 13, 2010, 05:46:29 PM
Hi Edward,

I currently live on Long Island.  However, I lived in Manhattan for most of my adult life.

My first impression of the place was just as you described it.  On the other hand, when it came time for me to choose a college, I wanted to be in Manhattan.  I did not want a repetition of high school in the suburbs.  I liked the idea of having the whole city as your campus. 

The thing about Manhattan is that it's where people come to reinvent themselves (or at least try).  What I like about it is that everything is right there at almost any time, and you don't need a car.  You can just take a subway, cab or bus to wherever you want to go. 

On the other hand, stuffing yourself into a subway every day gets a little old after a while.  And if there are problems with the subways, and you can't find a cab, getting around is a big pain. 
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: Lisa on February 13, 2010, 05:49:48 PM
Hi YemachShemotoIslam,

Your friend is right.  An example of this are the Noahides.  They believe in G-d.  And they're not Christians or Jews. 

Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: YimachShemotoIslam on February 13, 2010, 06:32:53 PM
Lisa, I would like to hear your opinion on Mormons. Are they Christian or not? Considering the fact that they do not follow the Bible.
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: Lisa on February 13, 2010, 07:08:36 PM
Hi YimachShemotoIslam,

Being that I'm a Jew, I don't think it's my place to say who is or is not a Christian.  However, I did do some reading on the topic before replying to your post.  From what I can tell, present day Mormons seem to believe they are Christians, whereas as others believe they are not. 

From what I can tell so far, they believe that people who marry in a Temple, and who have lots of children and who live as righteous Mormons will become deities in the next life, with their very own planets to rule.  I don't think Christianity has anything like this. 

Here's a link from a Mormon site writing about why they believe they are Christians:

http://www.lightplanet.com/mormons/response/general/christians/

Here's a link from another site explaining why they are not Christians:

http://www.allaboutcults.org/what-do-mormons-believe.htm

Hope this helps.
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: Serbian Canadian on February 13, 2010, 07:14:02 PM
Hey Lisa.

Since you're from New York, I have to ask you where were you when the 9/11 attacks happened? When did you first learn about them? What was your reaction? What was the rest of the day like for you?
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: Lisa on February 13, 2010, 07:49:14 PM
Hi Serbian Canadian,

Great question. 

I remember that day very well. 

I had a job selling online advertising out of my home.  My "office" was right in my bedroom.  So that morning, I woke up kind of late, and began checking my email.  At the time, I would have news headlines sent to me by email.  That's how I used to read the New York Times. Anyway, I woke up feeling very groggy and then I checked my email.  I saw a headline from the Times saying "Plane Hits World Trade Center."  I didn't open it to read it.  I figured I'd get to that email later.  Also the first thing I thought was that one of those small propeller planes hit the WTC, and that it was only a pilot error.  Then a second email came, and the heading read "Second plane hits World Trade Center."  Still I couldn't imagine that America was attacked. 

I logged onto Yahoo Messenger, which we were all required to do, then I started going through a list of people I needed to call for the day.  All of the sudden, my Yahoo Instant Messenger beeped.  It was a message from the company's IT guy in California.  I thought to myself, what would the IT guy from California want with me?  Usually it was the other way around.  I would call or email him if I needed something.  And he would get back to me in a little while.  So I opened his message.  It read:

"Are you OK?"

So I said:

"Yes of course.  Why do you ask? 

He then went onto explain how terrorists flew two planes into the WTC, and that the WTC was razed to the ground.  Then I turned on the television and saw it all.  And of course I saw that the Pentagon was also attacked, and that another plane went down in Pennsylvania.  Then it all hit me.  I was enraged!  I thought to myself that it was all Bill and Hillary Clinton's fault.  I wanted to call the U.N. and mouth off to them.  But I couldn't find a phone number for them on their website. 

Also, my phone was down.  I was unable to make any outgoing calls.  But I could receive incoming calls.  My mother called me, and I cried to her.  My manager called to see if I was OK, and said to take the day off.  However, I didn't want to do such a thing.  I didn't want the terrorists interfering with my routine.  So I tried to go on like I normally would.  But I couldn't.  I was too upset. 

I went outside for a few minutes.  And I could see the black smoke from all the way downtown.  Also, there was that awful smell that remained for several weeks.  At one point, I had to put a wet washcloth around my mouth to try and avoid it while sleeping. 
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: YimachShemotoIslam on February 13, 2010, 07:57:25 PM
Dear Lisa, can you tell me why do many Iraqi Christians chose to reside in Syria?
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: Lisa on February 13, 2010, 09:15:18 PM

From what I understand, it's due to cultural similarities, and the ease of being able to enter Syria.  And, there's also the history of Christianity in Syria.   

http://www.sptimes.com/2005/05/23/Worldandnation/Fleeing_Iraqi_Christi.shtml

Quote
Christians from Iraq have gone to other countries, but most choose Syria because of cultural similarities and ease of entry.

Unique in the region, Syria allows any citizen of an Arab nation to enter for up to six months without a visa. President Bush says this "porous" border makes it easy for insurgents to cross into Iraq from Syria, but it also makes it possible for Christians to flee the dangers that have swept their country since the United States occupied it.

"From the time of independence in 1946, Syria has always opened its doors for every refugee who comes - Armenians, Palestinians, Sudanese and now Iraqis," says Archbishop Isidore Battikha, patriarch of the Greek Catholic Church in Damascus.

"They are all welcome in Syria, and the government asks us to help them - we open our churches, our meeting rooms, our schools, and help by money or finding money."

Christians also feel more comfortable in Syria than in Iraq's other neighbors, the overwhelmingly Muslim countries of Jordan, Iran, Turkey, Kuwait and especially Saudi Arabia. There, "religious freedom does not exist," the U.S. State Department says.

By contrast, about 10 percent of Syria's 18-million people are Christians, who worship freely in an atmosphere rich in history and tolerance.
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: Mishmaat on February 14, 2010, 01:25:40 AM
Hi Lisa,

I'm facing a dilemma. I'm in a committed relationship with a girl who has celebrated Halloween and Valentines Day. Her rationale is that they're secular holidays, which I think is dubious at best. In the past I was into this as well. On Valentine's Day I got my prior girlfriends chocolate, roses, stuffed animals, and various other gifts. I don't want to come across as an inconsiderate jerk when I don't have any thing for my girlfriend this Valentine's Day. But at the same time I want to put my foot down and tell her that I don't think that any Jew should be celebrating this. I'm the type of person that is normally very aggressive in most situations. But in the context of a relationship I'm very submissive and I'll do everything possible to avoid any confrontation or argument.

What is the best course of action? Or rather, what do you recommend I do in such a situation?

Also, what do you think of Jews in the Galut that participate in Gentile holidays that have pagan origins?
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: Lisa on February 14, 2010, 08:56:56 AM
Hi Mishmaat,

Great questions. 

Halloween originated from the pagan Druid holiday (for lack of a better word) called Samhain.  Here's some background on Samhain, which later became All Saints Day, or All Souls Day:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samhain

Valentine's day is a Christian holiday of course. 

Now does your girlfriend know you're a religious Jew?  How did you meet her?  How long have the two of you been together?  I take it she's not religious?  I'm no expert on relationships, but maybe you should sit her down and explain what Halloween really is. 

Do you have plans with her for today or tonight?  What do you two normally like to do for fun?  Why don't you just make a plan to do something she normally enjoys, so you can avoid the flowers and chocolates? 

In terms of Jews in the Galut who celebrate holidays that have pagan origins, I think they need to be educated.  It's not enough to say "No don't do it.''  They need to understand why.  On the other hand, many secular Jews will not be swayed.  They'll say "Well it may have originally been a pagan holiday, but now it's secular.  So what's the big deal?"  After all, these are the people who voted for Obama. 
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: GoIsraelGo! on February 14, 2010, 10:01:27 AM
Lisa, my husband was on Long Island when the 9/11 attacks happened. Doug told me the same thing....he could see the smoke and smell it from his home in Commack.




                                                     Shalom - Dox     
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: Lisa on February 14, 2010, 10:10:33 AM
Lisa, my husband was on Long Island when the 9/11 attacks happened. Doug told me the same thing....he could see the smoke and smell it from his home in Commack.




                                                     Shalom - Dox     

Same thing with my parents on Long Island. 
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: YimachShemotoIslam on February 14, 2010, 12:24:57 PM
Dear Lisa.

Why are Jews not allowed to settle in Jordan?

Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: Edward on February 14, 2010, 01:56:42 PM
Thank you, Lisa.
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: Mishmaat on February 14, 2010, 02:39:26 PM
Hi Mishmaat,

Great questions. 

Halloween originated from the pagan Druid holiday (for lack of a better word) called Samhain.  Here's some background on Samhain, which later became All Saints Day, or All Souls Day:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samhain

Valentine's day is a Christian holiday of course. 

Now does your girlfriend know you're a religious Jew?
 

Oh she definitely knows that I'm a religious Jew. I wear a knitted kippah all the time. She's been to my place on numerous occasions. In the hallway leading into my room I've adorned the walls with framed photos of Rabbi Kahane and the Rebbe. My bookshelf is filled with religious material. She's seen all of this.

How did you meet her? 

Initially at my old job. How we hooked up though is a whole different story and quite interesting in and of itself.

How long have the two of you been together?

Well over a year now.

I take it she's not religious?  I'm no expert on relationships, but maybe you should sit her down and explain what Halloween really is.

Unfortunately, she's more of a "cultural" Jew than a religious one. Both of her parents speak Hebrew fluently and she's also fluent in Hebrew. I'll try to bring up the origins of these holidays to her.

Do you have plans with her for today or tonight?

Hopefully we're going to go out to dinner tonight.

What do you two normally like to do for fun? 

She's a frequent guest at my place. ;D We do a lot of channel surfing together and she's got me into playing video games again. We also enjoy shopping or window shopping and going out to different restaurants.

Why don't you just make a plan to do something she normally enjoys, so you can avoid the flowers and chocolates?

I know. I was racking my brain earlier thinking of things and that was my logical conclusion. I'm just sitting here waiting for her to return my text message.

In terms of Jews in the Galut who celebrate holidays that have pagan origins, I think they need to be educated.  It's not enough to say "No don't do it.''  They need to understand why.  On the other hand, many secular Jews will not be swayed.  They'll say "Well it may have originally been a pagan holiday, but now it's secular.  So what's the big deal?"  After all, these are the people who voted for Obama. 

Quite true.
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: Lisa on February 14, 2010, 05:25:54 PM
Hi Yimach,

It was originally Great Britain that decided that Jordan should bejudenrein.  The anti-semitic Jordanians, most of whom consider themselves fakestinians decided to keep that law.  Here's a link to check out:

http://www.nationalreview.com/comment/comment-littman100702.asp
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: Lisa on February 14, 2010, 05:28:05 PM
Hi Mishmaat,

Has your girlfriend been dropping hints for you to buy her a Valentine's day gift? 

You have to keep your ground.  The fact of the matter is, no man can change a woman and vice versa.  Your girlfriend has to accept you as you are.  In the long run, you'll get more respect for standing your ground. 
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: JTFenthusiast2 on February 14, 2010, 05:35:37 PM
Mishmaat,

Why not just buy her a card/gift/flowers?  I think that's the easier solution.  Or buy her a gift the day after.  People like to know they are appreciated and participating in these ridiculous 'holidays' seems to communicate that.  I'm for making life easy when it can be.  I am sure G-d knows that you are not actively participating in this pseudo 'holiday' for any of the religious reasons which no one knows.

Or if your participation in it is problematic for you, then make your own celebration for her a week prior or a week after, this way she will know that you are thinking of her, and at the same time, you are following what is the letter of the Law.  I don't know, what do you think?   
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: Serbian Canadian on February 14, 2010, 10:57:34 PM
Lisa, thanks for answering my question.

Why did you think it was Bill and Hillary Clinton's fault?

Don't forget that that same panic, fear, shock, tragedy and anger New Yorkers experienced on that day was also experienced by Serbs for 70+ days in 1999 when they were mercilessly bombed for humanitarian reasons. The irony is that those same people who attacked the U.S. in 2001, the U.S. supported them against Serbs in Bosnia and Kosovo. Crazy isn't it?   
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: Lisa on February 14, 2010, 11:20:00 PM
Lisa, thanks for answering my question.

Why did you think it was Bill and Hillary Clinton's fault?

Don't forget that that same panic, fear, shock, tragedy and anger New Yorkers experienced on that day was also experienced by Serbs for 70+ days in 1999 when they were mercilessly bombed for humanitarian reasons. The irony is that those same people who attacked the U.S. in 2001, the U.S. supported them against Serbs in Bosnia and Kosovo. Crazy isn't it?   

Great question, Serbian Canadian.

I blame the Clintons because of all their sucking up to moosies.  The Sudan offered to give the US Osama Bin Laden but Bill Clinton turned it down.  When the USS Cole and the US embassy were attacked by terrorists, Clinton treated it as a criminal matter, just as he did with the first World Trade Center bombing. 

Also, I remember Hillary Clinton telling some group that she was all for a fakestinian state and those who opposed it were to just get over it.  Hillary Clinton and her daughter Chelsea also sucked up to the moosies by visiting that fakestinian town and listening to Suha Arafat go on about how Israel poisoned the Arab's water supply.  That cow then kissed Suha Arafat, and made no comment about the blood libel.

As for Muslims attacking the US, who supported them against the heroice Serbs, it just goes to show you that they're ingrates.  Rabbi Kahane referred to them as eternal malcontents.  He said that nothing you do for them is ever enough. 
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: Mishmaat on February 15, 2010, 12:13:30 AM
Hi Mishmaat,

Has your girlfriend been dropping hints for you to buy her a Valentine's day gift? 

No. Surprisingly not.

You have to keep your ground.  The fact of the matter is, no man can change a woman and vice versa.  Your girlfriend has to accept you as you are.  In the long run, you'll get more respect for standing your ground.

Absolutely true. She sent me a text message wishing me a happy Valentine's Day, and I responded by stating that I don't observe it at all. She arrived at my home about ten minutes later and she didn't mention anything about V-Day. I didn't have to defend my position, or give her a lecture and there was no argument, thank God. I just enjoyed spending time with her. We went out to eat and had a very interesting conversation. At the risk of being condemned by all of the health nuts here I'm not going to say what I had to eat. Besides, those little details are boring anyway.

Mishmaat,

Why not just buy her a card/gift/flowers?  I think that's the easier solution.  Or buy her a gift the day after.  People like to know they are appreciated and participating in these ridiculous 'holidays' seems to communicate that.  I'm for making life easy when it can be.  I am sure G-d knows that you are not actively participating in this pseudo 'holiday' for any of the religious reasons which no one knows.

Or if your participation in it is problematic for you, then make your own celebration for her a week prior or a week after, this way she will know that you are thinking of her, and at the same time, you are following what is the letter of the Law.  I don't know, what do you think?   

I think your advice is great and sound! You can't really put a price tag on love. But to show that I appreciate her I plan to treat her to a day at the spa. I'll gladly pay for her manicure and pedicure.
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: YimachShemotoIslam on February 16, 2010, 06:06:57 AM
Dear Lisa in Jewish law, if your mother is Jewish, you are Jewish and in Islam if your father is a Muslim, you are a Muslim. Suppose G-d forbid if your mother is a Jew and your father is a Muslim. What would your situation be?
I woudn't be surprised if many Jews in Israel intermarry with Arab Muslims.



Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: Mishmaat on February 16, 2010, 03:55:21 PM
Good day Lisa, thank you for starting such a lively and interesting thread!

What is your favorite Persian dish?
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: Lisa on February 16, 2010, 05:52:19 PM
YimachShemotoIslam,

According to Ashkenazi Jewish law, you're Jewish if you have a Jewish mother, or if you undergo an Orthodox conversion.  The Ashkenazi Jews, which are the marjority of American Jews are of German, Russian and Eastern European ancestry.  My family is Iranian.  And according to my mother, anyone with only one Jewish parent would probably not even be considered Jewish, according to the Iranian Jews. 

If you're talking about some Ashkenazi Jewish woman living in the US who happens to marry a Muslim, I would say the child would be considered Jewish.  Now I don't know the exact number of Jewish women in Israel who have married Muslims.  But I know for a fact that they exist.  That would certainly be an awkward situation for any children involved.  However, there is an Israeli organization called Yad L'Achim, that helps such women and their children in getting back to Jewish life. 

In the U.S., I know of one Iranian Jewish woman who married an Iranian Muslim.  The parents and her brothers disowned her.  However, after the father passed away, the mother, and I think the brothers resumed contact with her.  I have no idea if the husband converted to Judaism.  But my mother tells me that she's seen him in the Iranian Synagogue wearing a yarmulke.  So I'm probably guessing that the kids are being raised Jewish. 
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: Lisa on February 16, 2010, 05:59:20 PM
Hi Mishmaat,

I have two favorite Iranian dishes.  One is called chello nekhod ab.  It's a stew that's served over rice.  It's made with lima beans, chick peas, kohlorabis, chopped spinach, fresh parsley, dill and cilantro in a chicken broth.  It can also include meatballs made from beef, and other cuts of beef, which are served separately from the stew.  I've always loved this dish.  My mother makes it Friday nights. 

My other favorite Iranian dish is called fesenjun.  From my experience, it's usually just served at catered parties, such as weddings.  Many Iranians have never even tried it because it looks gross.  But it's delicious!  This is also a stew which is served on rice.  It's made from a base of pomegranate paste, chopped walnuts, chopped onions, ground chicken meat and sugar.  Normally, I don't have much of a sweet tooth.  But that is one sweet dish that I LOVE. 
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: JTFenthusiast2 on February 16, 2010, 06:03:30 PM
Lisa,

I had no idea you were Iranian .  I have read a lot about the situation of Iranian Jews and the culture and history. One of my best friends in medical school was an Iranian Jew.  You come from a noble background with a beautiful heritage.  Do you speak Farsi?
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: Raulmarrio2000 on February 16, 2010, 06:08:44 PM
Lisa, according to Hallacha the child of a Jewish mother is Jewish, and the child of a mother who is or was a Gentile when she had that child is a Gentile. (even if the mother converts to Judaism afterwards, except if the child also converts). The status of the father does not matter. The Hallacha is the same for Askenazim, Sefaradim, Mizrachim or any other origin. Only Samaritans and some Karaites hold by patrilineal descent. ( Other Karaites require that both father and mother be Israelites).
Some Reconstructionist ( and perhaps also some Reform Jews) hold that a child with at least one Jewish parent may be considered Jewish if he lives like a Jew and don't require the conversion of someone of Jewish father.
According to Islam, the child of a Muslim father is Muslim, but this is irrelevant to Hallacha. The only problem may be in countries where Sharia is law, because the child may be prosecuted for apostasy by Islamic tyranies.
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: Lisa on February 16, 2010, 06:09:44 PM
Lisa,

I had no idea you were Iranian .  I have read a lot about the situation of Iranian Jews and the culture and history. One of my best friends in medical school was an Iranian Jew.  You come from a noble background with a beautiful heritage.  Do you speak Farsi?

Hi JTF Enthusiast,

I'm a first generation American.  But my parents are Iranian through and through, as are most of my relatives.  I do speak Farsi.  I don't read or write it.  I can carry on a normal conversation.  However, if I'm listening to someone formally giving a speech, I won't be able to understand everything.  
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: Lisa on February 16, 2010, 06:10:57 PM
Hi Raulmarrio,

We're in agreement.  However, I'm just relating to everyone here the Iranian Jewish perspective on mixed marriages, according to my mother. 
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: JTFenthusiast2 on February 16, 2010, 06:35:52 PM
Dear Lisa,

What is the relationship if any between Iranian and Iraqi Jews?  JTFE
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: Lisa on February 16, 2010, 06:48:10 PM
Dear Lisa,

What is the relationship if any between Iranian and Iraqi Jews?  JTFE

JTF Enthusiast2

Iranian Jews are extremely tribal.  In Great Neck, the Tehrani Jews have their own Synagogues, as do the Mashadi Jews. The Iraqi and Syrian Jews have their own Synagogues as well.  My family is Mashadi.  The Mashadis are the most tribal group out of them all.  In fact, they're comparable to the Syrian Jews in that regard.  The Tehrani Jews seem to be the most relaxed of the bunch. 

So, while Mashadi Jews might like and respect the Iraqi Jews, they mainly keep to themselves. 

Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: JTFenthusiast2 on February 16, 2010, 06:57:28 PM
Interesting,

I was wondering that if because their two homelands were at war, that ethnicity in this instance might surpass religion in terms of bonding between the two Jewish groups.  I had no idea about the tribalism issues you mentioned.  I went to the funeral of an Iraqi friend's father and it was unlike any kind of funeral I had been to. 
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: Dan on February 16, 2010, 06:59:37 PM
Hi Lisa,
when did most of the Iranian(Persian) Jews immigrate to the US. Are there still many left in Iran currently?
do you still have family or property/possessions there?
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: Lisa on February 16, 2010, 07:05:15 PM
Hi Lisa,
when did most of the Iranian(Persian) Jews immigrate to the US. Are there still many left in Iran currently?
do you still have family or property/possessions there?


Hi Dan,

Most of them came right after the revolution, when the Shah was overthrown.  However, my father saw it coming long ago.  He his family to get out of there.  My parents have been living in the U.S. for over fifty years. 

I think my father still has some property in Iran. 

Otherwise, there are still about 25,000 Jews left in Iran.  Luckily none of my relatives are still there. 
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: Dan on February 16, 2010, 07:09:15 PM
How is it that the Nazi Dictator Ahmedinajad still let's them live? are they protected somehow?
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: Lisa on February 16, 2010, 07:13:40 PM
How is it that the Nazi Dictator Ahmedinajad still let's them live? are they protected somehow?

Ahma-dinnerjacket "says" his problem is with Israel and Zionists, as opposed to individual Jews.  From what I uderstand, there's a Jewish representative in their parliament, and a Zoroastrian one too.  But I think I read somewhere that the Jewish rep. converted to Islam. 
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: muman613 on February 16, 2010, 07:16:03 PM
I can say, from experience, that Iranian Jews are some of the nicest Jews I meet. My current minyan is about half Persian and despite the fact that our minyan davens Ashkenazi nusach they keep their customs and prayers and do not complain. I have spent several Shabbatons with these Persian Jews who are studying to become Doctors and Pharmacists at the local college {which happens to be Jewish in nature}.

Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: JTFenthusiast2 on February 16, 2010, 07:20:54 PM
Lisa,

Did that Jewish representative seriously convert to Islam???

His name is Mauric Motamed

PLease tell me that did not happen.

You know I have seen him many times on Television and I always thought to myself "i have no idea how that man stands up to that kind of pressure"
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: Lisa on February 16, 2010, 08:02:55 PM
Lisa,

Did that Jewish representative seriously convert to Islam???

His name is Mauric Motamed

PLease tell me that did not happen.

You know I have seen him many times on Television and I always thought to myself "i have no idea how that man stands up to that kind of pressure"

I just looked him up on Wikipedia.  There was luckily nothing about him converting to Islam.  It's just that a while ago on this forum, someone wrote something about the Jewish rep converting. 
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: Lisa on February 16, 2010, 08:04:12 PM
Muman,

You're absolutely right about the Iranian Jews being a nice bunch of people.  They're very warm and polite as well.  If you ever get invited to their homes for dinner, you're in for a big treat.  They're excellent hosts. 
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: JTFenthusiast2 on February 16, 2010, 08:07:01 PM
Lisa,

That is really Baruch Hashem because I see him as being the one person in Iran who has been able to keep the Jews from complete and total peril there.
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: Edward on February 16, 2010, 11:16:10 PM
Lisa, I've read here that you're of Iranian origin.
Were you born in Iran?
How many Jews are there in Iran?
And, do you speak Farsi?
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: muman613 on February 16, 2010, 11:29:47 PM
Muman,

You're absolutely right about the Iranian Jews being a nice bunch of people.  They're very warm and polite as well.  If you ever get invited to their homes for dinner, you're in for a big treat.  They're excellent hosts. 

Lisa,

I never told you but when I was a Senior in High School I had a girlfriend who was Persian. Now I will be frank with you, this girl was HOT and ever since I have had a fantasy girl in my mind who is Persian {my wife knows about her}. Her name was Anita and she was not Jewish, I believe they were Muslim, and her mother forbid her from going out with me {she knew I was Jewish}... This was right after the Iranian revolution {I graduated High School in 1983}. I was told that her father was a high ranking official in the Shah of Irans government and they all were forced to leave when the Islamic Revolution took place.

Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: GoIsraelGo! on February 16, 2010, 11:58:48 PM
Hi Lisa...hey, you and I have something in common.
My Mother has been here in the US for over 50 years, she and her siblings came from Morocco...so while I read your story of how your Father got his family out of Iran, it reminded me of my Father and how he got my Mother and her siblings out of Morocco.

Lisa... our family's history is interesting       :)



                              Shalom - Dox 

Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: Lisa on February 17, 2010, 09:01:49 AM
Muman, many Iranian women are very beautiful.  I know one woman who's in her mid forties and who is a grandmother.  (She married and had children very young.)  Of course, she looks amazing. 

If you were to go into an Iranian Synagogue, you would see quite a fashion show. 

As for Anita's father, the Ayatollah went after everyone who was connected to the Shah.  So it was good that they got out of there.  I know a Jewish family whose father had some very important position under the Shah.  He found out by accident that he was on Khomeini's hit list.  He got his family out of Iran right away. 

Republican Dox, very interesting family history.  I think New Yorker is also of Moroccan ancestry. 
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: GoIsraelGo! on February 17, 2010, 10:16:26 AM
Lisa, my Niece is married to an Iranian Jew and I hear you about a Fashion show, the ladies in his family dress like Models who just stepped out of a magazine. Everything is perfect when they throw parties, the food, their dress, everything is perfect!
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: Lisa on February 17, 2010, 10:32:34 AM
Lisa, I've read here that you're of Iranian origin.
Were you born in Iran?
How many Jews are there in Iran?
And, do you speak Farsi?

Hi Edward, I was not born in Iran, although I did visit there as a child.  I speak Farsi, but don't read and write the language. 

I think there are currently about 25,000 Jews still in Iran. 
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: YimachShemotoIslam on February 17, 2010, 03:14:00 PM
Dear Lisa.

Can you tell me the current situation is like for Jews living in Iran right now.

 
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: Lisa on February 18, 2010, 06:22:16 PM
Hi YimachShemotoIslam,

The Iranian Jews are a very proud bunch.  They've lived in Iran for nearly 3,000 years.  My parents, who have lived here for more than fifty years still consider themselves Iranian.  I get the impression that it's the same thing with the Jews still living in Iran.  They've been there all this time, and they're very proud of being Iranians.  From what I've been told, the government doesn't bother them if they don't get involved in politics.  Here are some articles to check out:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/5367892.stm

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/23/opinion/23cohen.html

Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: Edward on February 18, 2010, 06:52:48 PM
You know Lisa, my girlfriend's dad is also of Iranian origin.  And he taught me some Persian, I love the sounds of the language, it's beautiful. I already know how they count til 6... yek, do, sa, char, pench, shey.......... cool language. and it's an Indo-European language, so basically, there are many similarities between German, English, Spanish etc, and Persian.
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: Lisa on February 18, 2010, 07:46:38 PM
You're right Edward.  For example the Farsi word for daughter is dochtar.  The Farsi word for mother is mader.  For father it's pedar.  In Spanish, it's madre and padre respectively. 
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: YimachShemotoIslam on February 19, 2010, 02:51:44 PM
Dear Lisa.

What is your opinion on Native-Americans?

Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: Lisa on February 19, 2010, 04:05:17 PM
Dear Lisa.

What is your opinion on Native-Americans?



Hi YimachShemo,

I have nothing against American Indians.  They don't strike me as trouble makers in the way that some groups do. 
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: YimachShemotoIslam on February 20, 2010, 06:24:04 PM
Dear Lisa.

What is your opinion on Native-Americans?



Hi YimachShemo,

I have nothing against American Indians.  They don't strike me as trouble makers in the way that some groups do. 

Thank you, Lisa. As I am one, myself.

Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: Spiraling Leopard on March 17, 2010, 10:33:45 AM
Do people sometimes mistake you for a muslima?
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: Lisa on March 17, 2010, 10:39:38 AM
Do people sometimes mistake you for a muslima?

No!

In fact, few people would ever guess by looking at me, that I'm of Iranian ancestry. 
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: Spiraling Leopard on March 17, 2010, 10:42:37 AM
Are you in menopause yet?
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: JTFenthusiast2 on March 17, 2010, 11:09:42 AM
Are you in menopause yet?

Bio, What kind of a question is that to ask a woman?   Show some class and respect.  How would you feel is some strange guy asked that to your mother???  Think about it!
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: Spiraling Leopard on March 17, 2010, 11:45:01 AM
Bio, What kind of a question is that to ask a woman?   Show some class and respect.  How would you feel is some strange guy asked that to your mother???  Think about it!

I'm quite positive Lisa is capable of handling her own discomforts on this forum, should she have any. There is no need for yóú to interfere.
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: Lisa on March 17, 2010, 12:53:22 PM
Quite frankly Bio, I don't see how that's relevant here.  It's also none of your business. 
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: Lisa on March 17, 2010, 01:01:35 PM
And come to think of it, I'm banning you. 

If you want to be allowed back here, you can write a message apologizing to me.  Then if, or when you're back, you can put up a post in the general section telling everyone what you just wrote to me, and then apologize again. 

Good riddance!
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: Irish Zionist on March 17, 2010, 01:20:21 PM
Are you in menopause yet?
What the hell kind of question was that?  :o
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: AsheDina on March 17, 2010, 01:26:10 PM
Bio, come on, whats the issue?  You are needed here.  Lisa is a great woman, she is a patriot of America, she is a wonderful person and my friend.

Now, I AM menopausal. But-this type issue is private, very private, women do not discuss these things. Men should not bring things like this up as well.

I made a terrible mistake of hurting the Serbs on this forum, and apologized, I have apologized to Chaim on several occasions, and Muman. 

We need you, so please offer Lisa an apology, no woman likes to hear this and we have terrible problems here in USA, you in Netherlands.  Please do right.
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: White Israelite on March 17, 2010, 01:47:28 PM
Omitted.

Very disrespectful, you should learn some manners
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: ProudToBeSerb on March 17, 2010, 03:19:43 PM
Bio, come on, whats the issue?  You are needed here.  Lisa is a great woman, she is a patriot of America, she is a wonderful person and my friend.

Now, I AM menopausal. But-this type issue is private, very private, women do not discuss these things. Men should not bring things like this up as well.

I made a terrible mistake of hurting the Serbs on this forum, and apologized, I have apologized to Chaim on several occasions, and Muman. 

We need you, so please offer Lisa an apology, no woman likes to hear this and we have terrible problems here in USA, you in Netherlands.  Please do right.

Why did you hurt Serbs, and what happened to change your mind?
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: Irish Zionist on March 17, 2010, 03:21:48 PM
Are you alright Lisa? I see you were very upset by this and rightly so.
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: YimachShemotoIslam on March 17, 2010, 03:40:23 PM
Dear Lisa, is it true you can be both Arab and Jewish at the same time? I noticed that are Jews from Arab countries such as Morocco, Yemen, Syria, Bahrain, and Iraq.

Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: Lisa on March 17, 2010, 03:48:37 PM
Dear Lisa, is it true you can be both Arab and Jewish at the same time? I noticed that are Jews from Arab countries such as Morocco, Yemen, Syria, Bahrain, and Iraq.


Dear Yimach Shemo,

You can be Arab and Jewish at the same time.  Like you said there are Jews who have lived for hundreds of years in countries like Tunisia, Algeria, Morocco, Yemen and Iraq.  It's like being a French Jew. 
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks on March 17, 2010, 04:13:39 PM
Hey dipsh*t, how would you like it if I asked you if you got raped by a 300-pound black guy in jail? Or if your balls have been cut off? Or if you masturbate to pictures of boys?

Good riddance to your WN trollish arse.
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: Confederate Kahanist on March 17, 2010, 07:11:22 PM
Are you in menopause yet?
What the hell kind of question was that?  :o

That's what I was wondering IZ.
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: Confederate Kahanist on March 17, 2010, 07:12:47 PM
Personally I think Bio-electric was very immature for this forum.  He had posted a poll about Barrack Hussein Osama I didn't like. 
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: Lisa on March 17, 2010, 07:31:43 PM
Bio, come on, whats the issue?  You are needed here.  Lisa is a great woman, she is a patriot of America, she is a wonderful person and my friend.

Now, I AM menopausal. But-this type issue is private, very private, women do not discuss these things. Men should not bring things like this up as well.

I made a terrible mistake of hurting the Serbs on this forum, and apologized, I have apologized to Chaim on several occasions, and Muman. 

We need you, so please offer Lisa an apology, no woman likes to hear this and we have terrible problems here in USA, you in Netherlands.  Please do right.

Why did you hurt Serbs, and what happened to change your mind?

AsheDina never harmed any Serb.  However, she did have some differences of opinion with some of the Serbs here when they criticized the US. 
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: JTFenthusiast2 on March 17, 2010, 07:42:15 PM
Lisa,

I am absolutely NOT excusing him.  The first thing that came to mind when I read that was 'is he drunk or using?'  It didnt prevent me from telling hm to watch his mouth, but it did cross my mind AND he does owe you a huge apology.  I would also add that it should be your decision alone whether or not to accept it
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: Confederate Kahanist on March 17, 2010, 08:05:20 PM
WN trollish arse.

Here we go again.
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: Rubystars on March 17, 2010, 09:12:41 PM
Wow that was highly inappropriate.  :o
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: The One and Only Mo on March 17, 2010, 09:19:23 PM
Dear Lisa,

           Are you in the market for a shiddach?
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: Spiraling Leopard on March 18, 2010, 06:14:50 AM
To all my critics here:

Where was all of your OUTRAGE when ron was talking about my mother?

What a bunch of phonies.

Did any of you mail Tamar Yonah to make her do an interview with Chaim?
No you didn't.

Do any of you wear a JTF-jacket?
No you don't.

Do any of you mail the Israeli embassy to ask why Chaim is not allowed to make Aliyah?
No you don't.

Do you send the 1994 show to PVV members or Limbaugh, Hannity or any other mailinglist?
No you don't.

Do any of you make JTF video's?
No you don't (except one or two).

Do any of you go to video's about Kahane saying "JTF is the only Kahanist movement of relevance. Chaim ben Pesach was national chairman of the JDL. Join JTF.org."?
No you don't.

Do any of you go to Teapartys to promote JTF?
No you don't because all you do is nothing.

I have no interest in any of you. You are phonies.

And dr brennan fan, 20 thousand posts talking about [censored] and calling people wn trolls doesn't mean [censored].
You clearly just have too much time on your hands.

It's because of people like you phonies that just want some internet pervertedness and do jack [censored] that RCH doesn't join the forum.

The only real JTF-er here is Paulette.
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: YimachShemotoIslam on March 18, 2010, 07:04:13 AM
To all my critics here:

Where was all of your OUTRAGE when ron was talking about my mother?

What a bunch of phonies.

Did any of you mail Tamar Yonah to make her do an interview with Chaim?
No you didn't.

Do any of you wear a JTF-jacket?
No you don't.

Do any of you mail the Israeli embassy to ask why Chaim is not allowed to make Aliyah?
No you don't.

Do you send the 1994 show to PVV members or Limbaugh, Hannity or any other mailinglist?
No you don't.

Do any of you make JTF video's?
No you don't (except one or two).

Do any of you go to video's about Kahane saying "JTF is the only Kahanist movement of relevance. Chaim ben Pesach was national chairman of the JDL. Join JTF.org."?
No you don't.

Do any of you go to Teapartys to promote JTF?
No you don't because all you do is nothing.

I have no interest in any of you. You are phonies.

And dr brennan fan, 20 thousand posts talking about schvartzas and calling people wn trolls doesn't mean drek.
You clearly just have too much time on your hands.

It's because of people like you phonies that just want some internet pervertedness and do jack drek that RCH doesn't join the forum.

The only real JTF-er here is Paulette.

Then clearly, we do not need someone like you in our movement. You're only hurting us by saying things like that.
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: Rubystars on March 18, 2010, 08:40:20 AM
Bio, I'm glad you're back on the forum. You do many positive things for JTF and I don't think anyone can deny that. It's best not to get into more arguments right now though. Obviously when other people are acting in a bad way that isn't right either.
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: Lisa on March 18, 2010, 09:39:21 AM
Dear Lisa,

           Are you in the market for a shiddach?

Sure.  Why not?
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: Zelhar on March 18, 2010, 10:21:52 AM
Listen guys I think we should be a little more tolerant here to each other's quirks and oddities. We have here users of different countries, age, and background, with different social norms and etiquettes.
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: The One and Only Mo on March 18, 2010, 12:06:01 PM
Robert you pmsing?
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: YimachShemotoIslam on March 18, 2010, 03:04:15 PM
Dear Lisa. Are Arabs consider caucasian/white? I noticed some Arabs do look like Europeans.

For example look at Doug Flutie.

(http://jollypeople.com/files/2008/12/doug-flutie.jpg)

Then look at Jamie Farr.

(http://entimg.msn.com/i/150/Movies/Actors3/Farr_Jamie_66706273_150x200.jpg)

Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: ✡ Hindu Zionist ॐ on March 18, 2010, 03:29:35 PM
You know Lisa, my girlfriend's dad is also of Iranian origin.  And he taught me some Persian, I love the sounds of the language, it's beautiful. I already know how they count til 6... yek, do, sa, char, pench, shey.......... cool language. and it's an Indo-European language, so basically, there are many similarities between German, English, Spanish etc, and Persian.
are you sure thats iranian language? its quite same in hindi :S

Lisa can you confirm this?
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: The One and Only Mo on March 18, 2010, 04:23:29 PM
You know Lisa, my girlfriend's dad is also of Iranian origin.  And he taught me some Persian, I love the sounds of the language, it's beautiful. I already know how they count til 6... yek, do, sa, char, pench, shey.......... cool language. and it's an Indo-European language, so basically, there are many similarities between German, English, Spanish etc, and Persian.
are you sure thats iranian language? its quite same in hindi :S

Lisa can you confirm this?

I know that's true. I used to be friends with Persians when I was a kid and they taught me that too.
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: Lisa on March 18, 2010, 05:16:37 PM
Hi YimachShemotoIslam,

Those two people in the picture look caucasian to me.  Now whether or not they're "white" would depend on whom you ask.  Doug Flutie looks white to me.  I would probably say Jamie Farr does as well.  After all, there are Southern Italians who are also olive skinned.  But they're considered white.  I guess you could call Jamie Farr Middle Eastern Caucasian if you really wanted to be specific. 

Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: Lisa on March 18, 2010, 05:19:48 PM
Hindu Zionist, Edward and Mo2388 are right about the Persian numbers.  If they sound quite similar to Hindi, I think it's because the Persian Empire at one point was very large, and that it included parts of India. 
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: YimachShemotoIslam on March 18, 2010, 08:25:08 PM
Dear Lisa, what is the current situation for Armenians living in Iran?
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: The One and Only Mo on March 18, 2010, 08:42:57 PM
Dear Lisa,

    1) Were you in the JDL when you were younger?

    2) Have you ever done drugs?

    2) Did you ever fire a gun?

   3) Have you ever failed a class?

   4) Do you have kids? Living parents? siblings?

   5) What's your favorite food?
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: JTFenthusiast2 on March 18, 2010, 08:49:14 PM
Bio,


No one was arguing or saying that you aren't a good person.  Everyone knows that you go well out of your way to promote JTF ideals.  The thing that people were shocked about was the fact that you would ask such a personal, intimate, and basically irrelevant question to someone in a public forum.  It's about being appropriate and respectful of another person, NOT about your devotion to JTF goals.  I hope that makes sense
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: Lisa on March 18, 2010, 09:28:24 PM
YimachShemo,

From what I understand, Armenians were treated well by the Pahlavi Dynasty (Reza Shah, and the very last Shah Mohammed Reza Pahlavi).  Before the revolution, I think there were about 300,000 of them.  But since then, their population has dwindled to about half. 

Here's some background on them from an Iranian site:

http://www.payvand.com/news/04/dec/1207.html

Also, there are some Armenians living in Israel:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armenians_in_Israel

And I believe there are some in Gaza as well. 
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: Lisa on March 18, 2010, 09:30:26 PM
Dear Lisa,

    1) Were you in the JDL when you were younger?

    2) Have you ever done drugs?

    2) Did you ever fire a gun?

   3) Have you ever failed a class?

   4) Do you have kids? Living parents? siblings?
 
   5)What's your favorite food?


Hi Mo2388,

I was never in the JDL when I was younger.

I did try pot a few times in my 20's.  It was like being drunk but with a much bigger appetite. 

The only kind of gun I ever fired was a bee bee (sp?) gun in day camp.

I once failed science in middle school.  But then I got tutoring and my grades improved. 

I don't have any kids.  Both my parents are still alive.  And I have three sisters. 
   
My absolute favorite food is sushi.  But Middle Eastern food like chumus and tahini and schwarma come a close second. 
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: ✡ Hindu Zionist ॐ on March 19, 2010, 12:18:00 AM
Hindu Zionist, Edward and Mo2388 are right about the Persian numbers.  If they sound quite similar to Hindi, I think it's because the Persian Empire at one point was very large, and that it included parts of India. 
wow, in Hindi its: ek, do,teen,char, panch, chey, sath.

even mother is called "madara" in Sanskrit.

Can you tell me farsi word for "Hindu" ?  i know in hebrew it is Hodim.
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: YimachShemotoIslam on March 19, 2010, 07:03:18 AM
YimachShemo,

From what I understand, Armenians were treated well by the Pahlavi Dynasty (Reza Shah, and the very last Shah Mohammed Reza Pahlavi).  Before the revolution, I think there were about 300,000 of them.  But since then, their population has dwindled to about half. 

Here's some background on them from an Iranian site:

http://www.payvand.com/news/04/dec/1207.html

Also, there are some Armenians living in Israel:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armenians_in_Israel

And I believe there are some in Gaza as well. 

That's interesting. I didn't know that were Armenians living in Israel. I knew that were some living in Lebanon and Syria as well.
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: Lisa on March 19, 2010, 07:43:19 AM
Hindu Zionist, the word in Farsi is "Hendi."
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: angryChineseKahanist on March 23, 2010, 12:56:39 PM

How many languages do you know?
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: Lisa on March 23, 2010, 05:15:15 PM

How many languages do you know?


Hi Angry Chinese Kahanist,

I speak and understand Farsi (but don't read and write it).  So I can carry on a conversation and understand people talking next to me.  But when listening to a formal speech, I don't understand everything. 

I speak and understand some Spanish (and of course I can read and write in the language).  But I can't always understand it when people are speaking fast. 

I studied French in College, along with Spanish.  But since I never have an opportunity to speak it, I've forgotten quite a bit. 

I also know a little bit of Hebrew, since I studied it in my high school. 
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: angryChineseKahanist on March 24, 2010, 07:56:46 AM

If I gave you all of Tiger Wood's money and his Cadillac Escalade, would you go live in Israel?

Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: Lisa on March 24, 2010, 08:55:35 AM

If I gave you all of Tiger Wood's money and his Cadillac Escalade, would you go live in Israel?



Perhaps.
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: Zelhar on March 24, 2010, 11:20:07 AM
Hi Lisa, Have you tried being vegetarian ? how did it worked out if you did ?
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: Lisa on March 24, 2010, 01:48:45 PM
Hi Lisa, Have you tried being vegetarian ? how did it worked out if you did ?

Hi Zelhar,

I remember asking you about it a while back. 

However I did try it many years ago.  I ended up feeling very run down. 
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: YimachShemotoIslam on March 24, 2010, 02:13:18 PM
Dear Lisa, did you to travel to Israel once in your life?

Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: Lisa on March 24, 2010, 02:23:02 PM
Dear Lisa, did you to travel to Israel once in your life?



Yes.  I went on a teen tour when I was 16. 
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: YimachShemotoIslam on March 29, 2010, 03:49:58 PM
How can a Third World country like Brazil develop an alternative to oil and the US can't?
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: Lisa on March 31, 2010, 03:49:36 PM
Hi Yimach Shemo,

America can also become energy independent.  But the elites (both Democrats and Republicans) don't want that.  These multinational oil companies, who donate to both Democrats and Republicans don't want anything interfering with their sweetheart deals with rogue Muslim terror states.  I remember reading an interview with the CEO of one of these companies who said flat out that energy independence is unrealistic.  Now aside from these multinational oil companies, you have the environmentalists, who care more about pellicans and polar bears than human beings.  Every time the idea of drilling in ANWR or the Gulf of Mexico comes up, these groups are all up in arms.  It's interesting to note though, that these enviro-nuts never utter a peep about Cuba drilling off the Gulf of Mexico. 

In the case of Brazil, it's such a poor country that I don't think they have any environmentalists.  If they do, I can't imagine it would be that many.  Anyway, that's just my guess.
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: YimachShemotoIslam on April 01, 2010, 02:24:57 PM
Dear Lisa, would you agree with me, that every American Christian should support Israel and if they don't, they aren't real Christians?

Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: Lisa on April 01, 2010, 05:04:43 PM
Hi Yimach Shemo,

It's not my place to say who is, or is not a real Christian. 

Now, would it be nice if every Christian supported Israel? 

Yes. 

But I think Jews need to stop worrying about whether other people will support them or not.  I do realize though that it's easier said than done.  As the Bible says "Lo, this is a nation that shall dwell alone."  That's quite true.  Chaim has always stressed that Israel won her biggest victory when she went at it alone.   
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: IsraeliGovtAreKapos on April 02, 2010, 02:50:58 AM
Can't get it
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: Lisa on April 02, 2010, 08:55:35 AM
Can't get what?
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: YimachShemotoIslam on April 03, 2010, 07:01:39 PM
Dear Lisa. What are so many blacks obsessed with Islam?
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: Lisa on April 03, 2010, 07:34:57 PM
Hi Yimach Shemo,

First off, American blacks never had their own authentic American religion.  The ones that came here were converted to Christianity, because that was mostly what they were exposed to.  Now, even though anyone can become Christian, they must have associated it with white slave holders in America.  And it also doesn't help that the Wahbabi recruited imams in the prisons sweet talk them into converting to Islam by playing up on the lack of any black-centric religion in the U.S.  That's the first part of it. 

The other part of the equation is that Islam is a violent religion, as are many blacks.  We all know that Islam condones killing for jihad, and having more than one wife.  Any real or perceived affront Muslim men might suffer is never their fault.  It's usually the fault of immodestly dressed women who make their men lose control of themselves.  Or it's the fault of some non-Muslim whom they feel has insulted their prophet.   It's the same story with many black people who blame "institutionalized racism" or someone calling them the n-word for their violence. 

Hope that answers your question. 
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: IsraeliGovtAreKapos on April 04, 2010, 12:46:01 AM
Can't get the "[censored] have bigger" cult followers.
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: Lisa on April 04, 2010, 09:12:20 AM
Can't get the "schvartzas have bigger" cult followers.

Schvartzas have bigger whats?
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: IsraeliGovtAreKapos on April 04, 2010, 09:14:09 AM
Bigger "weaponary"
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: Lisa on April 04, 2010, 09:33:03 AM
Bigger "weaponary"

I have no idea about that. 

For what it's worth, I read an article a long time ago in Cosmopolitan magazine (Yes I know it's trash, and I haven't read it in ages.) where some scientist quoted the average size of black "weaponry" vs. that of whites and asians.  I have no idea if that's true.  Nor am I interested in finding out. 

On the other hand, according to "race realist" literature, blacks have higher testosterone than whites (along with a lower IQ), which they believe explains their propensity for violence and promiscuity.  We have a member here by the user name Rhayat, who posts on American Renaissance, whom you can talk to about that. 
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: IsraeliGovtAreKapos on April 04, 2010, 09:39:43 AM
Yes there are newer researches about this issue where that thesis that Negroes have bigger is debunked. Btw do White girls in America prefer "exotic" fellows over white fellows?
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: Lisa on April 04, 2010, 10:55:21 AM
Yes there are newer researches about this issue where that thesis that Negroes have bigger is debunked. Btw do White girls in America prefer "exotic" fellows over white fellows?

I can't speak for all white girls.  No doubt there are some who do, and some who don't.  There's all types. 
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: YimachShemotoIslam on April 04, 2010, 07:09:17 PM
Dear Lisa, are the Arab Christians of Israel, Lebanon, Syria and Jordan really "Christian"?
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: Lisa on April 06, 2010, 07:21:34 PM
Again, Yimach Shemo, it's not my place as a Jew to say who is or is not a Christian. 

But from what I have read and seen of Arab Christians, they seem to identify politically, socially and racially as Arab Muslims.  Many of them (with the exception of the wonderful Joseph Farah) are anti-semitic and pro-fakestinian.  For example, I read an article on the AP a while back about how some Orthodox priest in Syria would light candles in his church for Hezbollah chief Hassan Nasrallah. 

Here are more examples of how these Christian Arabs are pro-Muslim terror. 

Butt ugly PLO spokeswoman Hanan Ashwari, whom that disgusting news anchor Peter Jennings used to bang, is a Christian Arab.  Suha Arafat used to be a Christian before converting to Islam to marry that AIDS infested Yasser Arafat.  The notorious Helen Thomas, who is part of the White House press corps is also an Arab Christian of Lebanese ancestry.  This ugly old crone is notoriously pro-fakestinian.  She uses her position to harass the White House press people, and to spout Muslim terrorist propaganda.  In one press conference, she was heard muttering "60 years of occupation." 

There's also that pro-fakestinian Ralph Nader, of Lebanese ancestry, just like Helen Thomas, who has referred to the government of Israel as its military regime:

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/US-Israel/nader.html

And he's quite cozy with Muslim terrorist front groups:

http://97.74.65.51/readArticle.aspx?ARTID=13641

Then there's also the Muslim terror supporter James Zogby, who was born in the U.S. to Lebanese Catholic parents, who has called Israelis Nazis, and who equates Israel's efforts to defend herself to the Holocaust:

http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/individualProfile.asp?indid=763

Note that Zogby was involved with the Arab American Anti-Discrimination Committee, which was to advance the interest of Christian Arabs:

http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/groupProfile.asp?grpid=6173

Also, let's not forget former United States Senator James Abourezek (also born to Christian Lebanese parents).  This lover of goat fornicators has gone on the record about how the big bad Israel lobby controls the U.S. government.  A few years ago during the intifadah, he said flat out that the terorrist attacks would stop as soon as the "occupation" ends. 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Abourezk

This pig has also allowed himself to be interviewed on Hezbollah TV:

http://www.memritv.org/clip/en/1551.htm

There's also John Sununu Jr. and Senior, who are no friends of Israel either. 

Also, let's not forget the Coptic Christians.  They've been viciously persecuted by Muslims.  But they're still strong anti-semites.  Check out what their Pope Shenouda III had to say about Jews:

http://www.directionstoorthodoxy.org/mod/news/view.php?article_id=501&thread_style=flat&thread_style=threaded&thread_style=flat&thread_style=threaded

Quote
THE LEADER of the Coptic Church, Pope Shenouda III of Alexandria told Egyptian television last month the Western Churches were wrong to exonerate Jews for the crucifixion of Jesus Christ, and criticised recent statements apologising for Christian anti-Semitism.

In an interview with Dream 2 TV broadcast on April 8, Shenouda was asked if the Coptic Church would follow the lead of the Western Christian churches. Shenouda responded that the Christian Churches had “done nothing that warrants an apology,” adding he believed the apologies were being “done for appearance’s sake.”

Asked whether Jews were “Christ-killers”, responsible for the crucifixion, Shenouda stated, “The New Testament says that they are,” and asked rhetorically whether the Vatican was “against the teachings of the New Testament?”

Shenouda stated he had banned Copts from visiting Israel for fear they will “be influenced by the Israeli media, and we will not be able to prevent this. Who knows what ideas they will return with?”

The 1988 Lambeth Conference paper, “Jews, Christians and Muslims: The Way of Dialogue” acknowledged the Church’s historical complicity in anti-Semitism. The bishops at Lambeth stated “Anti-Jewish prejudice promulgated by leaders of both Church and State has led to persecution, pogrom and finally, provided the soil in which the evil weed of Nazism was able to take rood and spread its poison.”

Under the pontificate of John Paul II, the Roman Catholic Church acknowledged its role in Jewish persecution. On his March 2000 visit to the Chief Rabbinate of Israel, the Pope stated: “We hope that the Jewish people will acknowledge that the Church utterly condemns anti-Semitism and every form of racism as being altogether opposed to the principles of Christianity.”


Anyway, sorry for the long winded response.  But here's the bottom line.  Regardless of what these people call themselves, I hate them just as much as Muslim terrorists, if not more so.  The reason I hate them more is that most of the people I mentioned lived in America, which is a free Western country.  Yet they side with the barbarians from whom their parents fled, against Israel.  Without all this support from their fellow expats, Muslim terrorists would be seen for the eternal malcontents they truly are. 

Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: Serbian Canadian on April 06, 2010, 11:25:46 PM
Hey Lisa.

I know you're conservative but were you ever a leftist? When you were younger did you ever think that for instance, the Israelis were "opressing" the "Palestinians"?
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: Lisa on April 07, 2010, 08:28:46 AM
Hey Serbian Canadian!

Good question. 

When I was younger, I used to be more liberal than now.  For example, I used to wonder what was wrong with government assistance to those less fortunate.  Also, I used to be for gun control.  And I was *very* pro choice.  However, I was always against affirmative action, and FOR the death penalty.  But I NEVER EVER thought that Israel was "oppressing" the fakestinians.  I was always against Israel being forced to give up land to her Arab neighbors. 


Hey Lisa.

I know you're conservative but were you ever a leftist? When you were younger did you ever think that for instance, the Israelis were "opressing" the "Palestinians"?
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: YimachShemotoIslam on April 08, 2010, 05:37:17 PM
Dear Lisa, if a Muslim man god-forbid were to marry a Jewish woman than the woman gives birth to a baby is the baby Muslim or Jewish?
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: Lisa on April 08, 2010, 06:13:04 PM
Dear Lisa, if a Muslim man G-d-forbid were to marry a Jewish woman than the woman gives birth to a baby is the baby Muslim or Jewish?

According to Jewish law, to be a Jew, you have to be born of a Jewish mother, or you have to convert according to halacha (Orthodox Jewish law).  So in this case, the child would be Jewish, according to Jewish law.  Now I would think that the Muslims would consider the child Muslim, since they're much more patriarchal than Jews and Christians. 

In any case, you would have a very confused child, who could end up as a traitorous, self hating Jew. 
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: Rubystars on April 09, 2010, 01:34:03 AM
Dear Lisa is someone still Jewish by Halacha if their great, great grandmother was an Orthodox Jew and the Jewishness was passed down from mother to mother but the last couple of generations did not follow Jewish teachings?
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: Lisa on April 09, 2010, 08:27:27 AM
Dear Lisa is someone still Jewish by Halacha if their great, great grandmother was an Orthodox Jew and the Jewishness was passed down from mother to mother but the last couple of generations did not follow Jewish teachings?


Good question, Rubystars.  Let me research it and get back to you. 
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: YimachShemotoIslam on April 09, 2010, 03:31:02 PM
Dear Lisa, do you think crazy dictator, Ahmadinejad really wants to destroy Israel?

Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: Lisa on April 09, 2010, 05:11:38 PM
Rubystars, I've been thinking about your question.  It would really depend on whether or not the woman's daughters, or granddaughters converted to another religion.  If the woman's sons, grandsons or great grandsons marry a non-Jew, the children are not Jewish. 

YimachShemotoIslam, I think Ahmadinejad is serious.  We need to remember that tiny Israel is a first world country in a region of religious fanatics.  As such, Israel is an affront to Muslim/Arab honor.  As an example, compare the number of Nobel Prizes for the sciences and literature for Israelis to those of her neighbors. 
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: Rubystars on April 10, 2010, 11:09:33 PM
So let's say a group of people were found to be the only descendants of one of the lost tribes of Israel, but yet they followed another religion, like Islam. Would the fact they were descended from the original Israelites hold any weight as far as halacha is concerned?
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: IsraeliGovtAreKapos on April 11, 2010, 02:37:41 AM
The hatred is based upon Nationalist (a Jewish state in the middle of the "Arab" world) and Religious (a Kuffar state in the Middle of the Dar al Islam) views, not jealousy.

Lisa adds:

Of course that's also true.  But I think part of it has to be jealousy. 
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: Lisa on April 11, 2010, 08:29:26 AM
So let's say a group of people were found to be the only descendants of one of the lost tribes of Israel, but yet they followed another religion, like Islam. Would the fact they were descended from the original Israelites hold any weight as far as halacha is concerned?

I think in that case, they would need to undergo a formal Orthodox conversion to be considered Jews.  Remember, you're talking about many many generations, and the fact that they're practicing another religion. 
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: Zelhar on April 11, 2010, 11:41:26 AM
So let's say a group of people were found to be the only descendants of one of the lost tribes of Israel, but yet they followed another religion, like Islam. Would the fact they were descended from the original Israelites hold any weight as far as halacha is concerned?

I think in that case, they would need to undergo a formal Orthodox conversion to be considered Jews.  Remember, you're talking about many many generations, and the fact that they're practicing another religion. 
I think in such cases there is doubt (safek yehudi) and so it requires conversion. In theory the female line can be traced back to Sarah, but in practice if someone's family line has been outside of Jewry for generations it must raise doubt, even if he/she claims that the female line has remained Jewish by blood.
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: YimachShemotoIslam on April 12, 2010, 08:16:33 PM
Dear Lisa, once we're done with Iran's nuclear program should we focus on Pakistan's nuclear program as well? I think both programs should be destroyed.


Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: Lisa on April 12, 2010, 08:51:14 PM
Dear Lisa, once we're done with Iran's nuclear program should we focus on Pakistan's nuclear program as well? I think both programs should be destroyed.

Hi Yimach Shemo,

Good question.  Of course Pakistan is bad news.  However, they share a border with India, who also has nukes.  Naturally I think Israel and the U.S. should support India. 
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: YimachShemotoIslam on April 15, 2010, 07:00:46 PM
Dear Lisa, how are we going to convince Muslims that their religion is evil and that Islam preaches hate against non-Muslims? Are there any Muslims that do not hate or want to kill non-Muslims?



Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: Lisa on April 15, 2010, 08:24:03 PM
Dear Lisa, how are we going to convince Muslims that their religion is evil and that Islam preaches hate against non-Muslims? Are there any Muslims that do not hate or want to kill non-Muslims?


I personally don't care what religion they practice in their own countries.  If we weren't dependent on oil, it wouldn't even be an issue.  The problem I have is when they kill Jews in Israel, and when they demonize Israel to the rest of the world.  I should also add that I object to honor killings being done in the West.  Customs like that simply do not belong in First World countries. 
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: IsraeliGovtAreKapos on June 16, 2010, 04:19:20 PM
How do you call one Arab in the sea? Pollution
How do you call all of the Arabs in the sea? Solution
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: Lisa on June 16, 2010, 06:07:42 PM
How do you call one Arab in the sea? Pollution
How do you call all of the Arabs in the sea? Solution

Good one, Ron.  Helen Thomas is an excellent example of one Arab in the sea being pollution.  In fact, I would feel sorry for all the marine life with their water being polluted by her carcass.  Anyway, she's 89 years old.  Hopefully soon, she'll put us all out of her misery. 
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: IsraeliGovtAreKapos on June 16, 2010, 06:10:06 PM
How do you call one Arab in the sea? Pollution
How do you call all of the Arabs in the sea? Solution

Good one, Ron.  Helen Thomas is an excellent example of one Arab in the sea being pollution.  In fact, I would feel sorry for all the marine life with their water being polluted by her carcass.  Anyway, she's 89 years old.  Hopefully soon, she'll put us all out of her misery. 

Helen Thomas gives Arab girls a bad name.
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: angryChineseKahanist on July 08, 2010, 08:40:34 PM
Have you been married?
Will you find that perfect geeky Jew to marry?
How about Chaim?
I want to see a bunch of little Lisas running around.
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: Lisa on July 08, 2010, 08:43:18 PM
Have you been married?
Will you find that perfect geeky Jew to marry?
How about Chaim?


No to your first question. 

Regarding your second question, I have no idea.

As for your third question, thank you for thinking of me, but I'm much too old for Chaim.  He has stated on past Ask JTF shows that he wants a young Israeli woman in her early thirties, since he wants lots of children. 
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: IsraeliGovtAreKapos on July 08, 2010, 11:04:55 PM
What's worse Black National (Socialism) or White National (Socialism)?
What's worse Communism or Nazism?
Hitler or Stalin?
Obama or Carter?
Rabin or Bibi?
PLO or Hamas?
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: Lisa on July 08, 2010, 11:11:10 PM
What's worse Black National (Socialism) or White National (Socialism)?
What's worse Communism or Nazism?
Hitler or Stalin?
Obama or Carter?
Rabin or Bibi?
PLO or Hamas?

White nationalism is worse.  Most blacks aren't organized enough to carry out a genocide against whites if not for white liberals who feel sorry for them. 

I would say Hitler, which in no way lessens Stalin's evil.  Hitler wanted to wipe out and entire religious/ethnic group.

Obama is worse because most people are afraid of attacking the first black American president for fear of being called racists.  Obama knows that and is using it to his advantage. 

I would say the PLO and Hamas are tied.
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: IsraeliGovtAreKapos on July 08, 2010, 11:16:19 PM
Lionel Messi or Jay Z?
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: Lisa on July 08, 2010, 11:31:51 PM
Lionel Messi or Jay Z?

I have no idea who Lionel Messi is.  Jay Z is a rapper, I believe? 

In any case, I HATE rap!.  It's disgusting. 
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: IsraeliGovtAreKapos on July 09, 2010, 12:13:37 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lionel_Messi
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: YimachShemotoIslam on July 09, 2010, 07:20:26 AM
What country is more dangerous to Israel's survival Turkey or Iran?

Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: angryChineseKahanist on July 09, 2010, 07:31:53 AM
Lionel Messi or Jay Z?

I have no idea who Lionel Messi is. Jay Z is a rapper, I believe?

In any case, I HATE rap!. It's disgusting.

And sexist and racist and violent.
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: Lisa on July 09, 2010, 08:05:02 AM
What country is more dangerous to Israel's survival Turkey or Iran?



My guess would be Iran.  Ahmadinejad has denied the Holocaust and has threatened to wipe Israel off the map repeatedly.  Iran also is a sponsor of Hezbollah
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: JTFenthusiast2 on July 10, 2010, 07:48:04 PM
Dear Lisa,

In whatever spare time you have, what kinds of things do you enjoy reading most?  What is your favorite activity to do alone or with friends?
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: The One and Only Mo on July 10, 2010, 09:39:37 PM
Dear Lisa,

    Would you go on a date with my dad?
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: IsraeliGovtAreKapos on July 11, 2010, 12:41:49 AM
Dear Lisa,

    Would you go on a date with my dad?

 :::D :::D :::D :::D :::D :::D
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: Lisa on July 11, 2010, 08:29:53 AM
Dear Lisa,

In whatever spare time you have, what kinds of things do you enjoy reading most?  What is your favorite activity to do alone or with friends?

Hi JTFEnthusiast2,

Lately, I've been reading right wing blogs.  I've also been reading personal finance sites, like the MSN channel, among others. 

In terms of favorite activities, I like swimming laps, walking, shopping, and going out for sushi. 
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: Lisa on July 11, 2010, 08:31:00 AM
Dear Lisa,

    Would you go on a date with my dad?

Seriously?  I take it your parents are no longer together? 
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: YimachShemotoIslam on July 11, 2010, 11:29:11 AM
What would be your favorite Affirmative Action story from Chaim be?
 
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: The One and Only Mo on July 11, 2010, 01:15:43 PM
Dear Lisa,

    Would you go on a date with my dad?

Seriously?  I take it your parents are no longer together? 

They've been divorced 18 years.
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: Lisa on July 11, 2010, 01:26:53 PM
What would be your favorite Affirmative Action story from Chaim be?
 

They're all excellent.  I like the Cleopatra Jefferson story, as well as the one where Chaim told the smelly black bum to go into the New York Times building on West 43rd Street. 
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: Lisa on July 11, 2010, 01:27:48 PM
Dear Lisa,

    Would you go on a date with my dad?

Seriously?  I take it your parents are no longer together? 

They've been divorced 18 years.

Sure.  Why not?  As long as you're comfortable with the idea.  Does your father live in New York? 
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: The One and Only Mo on July 11, 2010, 03:10:07 PM
Dear Lisa,

    Would you go on a date with my dad?

Seriously?  I take it your parents are no longer together? 

They've been divorced 18 years.

Sure.  Why not?  As long as you're comfortable with the idea.  Does your father live in New York? 
Yes. I'm going in during mid-august, maybe we can have a JTF get together and you can meet him. He looooves JTF, Kahane, and Chaim.
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: Lisa on July 11, 2010, 03:41:50 PM
OK, let me know when in August you'll be in New York with your father, and I'll organize the next JTF meeting accordingly.
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: angryChineseKahanist on July 11, 2010, 11:32:42 PM

(http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/4584/imgql0.jpg)
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: Lisa on July 15, 2010, 07:22:29 PM
Angry Chinese Kahanist, that's actually a very nice wedding gown. 

And speaking of wedding gowns, I HATE those strapless and sleeveless wedding gowns that are all over the freaking place.  They're immodest.  Also, what is the logic of wearing a veil on your head when half your torso is exposed? 
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: Rubystars on July 15, 2010, 08:18:16 PM
Also, what is the logic of wearing a veil on your head when half your torso is exposed? 

Such a great point!  :::D :laugh:
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: Lisa on July 15, 2010, 08:56:41 PM
A few years ago, I bought this long black dress with long sleeves.  When my mother saw it, she went berserk.  She yelled at me for about ten minutes, saying it was too old-lady-ish for me, and then insisted I get rid of it. 

On another note, I have these two evening dresses.  They're both sleeveless.  One has a halter top with a v-neck.  The other has spaghetti straps.  They both look good on me.  But I always feel uncomfortable wearing them because they're sleeveless.  Now some of you might be thinking "Well Lisa, why don't you just get an evening dress with sleeves?"  And the answer is, there are none! 
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: Rubystars on July 15, 2010, 09:35:22 PM
You might be able to get one modified if you have enough money
Title: Re: Ask Lisa
Post by: nessuno on July 16, 2010, 02:32:56 AM
Find a pretty wrap or small (bolero) jacket to wear with them.

http://www.etsy.com/shop/alexbridal?section_id=6738297
http://www.bestbridalprices.com/wedding-accessories-jackets-shawls-c-122_215.html
In the second link, near the bottom of the page, some of the shawls are about fifteen dollars.

I'm sure if you shop around you could find a good deal.  It always a good investment though.  It's a shame for a pretty dress to be left hanging in the closet.