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Title: Why are Israelis on the forum now? It's Shabbat!
Post by: Tzvi Ben Roshel1 on October 19, 2007, 04:25:07 PM
Why are Israelis on the forum now? It's Shabbat!
Title: Re: Why are Israelis on the forum now? It's Shabbat!
Post by: Dexter on October 19, 2007, 04:27:40 PM
Why are Israelis on the forum now? It's Shabbat!


Not everyone believes it's a holy day, it's everyone's right to do what they wishes to do.

Title: Re: Why are Israelis on the forum now? It's Shabbat!
Post by: Merkava on October 19, 2007, 04:48:44 PM
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it's everyone's right to do what they wishes to do.

I agree !  :D
Title: Re: Why are Israelis on the forum now? It's Shabbat!
Post by: Ehud on October 19, 2007, 07:30:59 PM
Yes, surprising as it is, there are Israeli Jews who don't follow Shabbat.   :o
Title: Re: Why are Israelis on the forum now? It's Shabbat!
Post by: Kiwi on October 19, 2007, 10:19:34 PM
Why are Israelis on the forum now? It's Shabbat!

Then why are you here  :::D

Title: Re: Why are Israelis on the forum now? It's Shabbat!
Post by: Trumpeldor on October 20, 2007, 04:31:43 AM
Why are Israelis on the forum now? It's Shabbat!

Not everyone believes it's a holy day, it's everyone's right to do what they wishes to do.

I agree. Hell probably isn't even that bad. Can it really be worse than watching a Hillary Clinton speech?
Title: Re: Why are Israelis on the forum now? It's Shabbat!
Post by: Sarah on October 20, 2007, 06:39:46 AM
Why isn't the forum closed then?
Title: Re: Why are Israelis on the forum now? It's Shabbat!
Post by: Dexter on October 20, 2007, 06:49:08 AM
Why are Israelis on the forum now? It's Shabbat!
Not everyone believes it's a holy day, it's everyone's right to do what they wishes to do.

I agree. Hell probably isn't even that bad. Can it really be worse than watching a Hillary Clinton speech?
:laugh:
Title: Re: Why are Israelis on the forum now? It's Shabbat!
Post by: mord on October 20, 2007, 10:10:10 AM
MAYBE SOMEONE NOT JEWISH TAKES OVER DURING SHABBOT
Title: Re: Why are Israelis on the forum now? It's Shabbat!
Post by: Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks on October 20, 2007, 12:56:38 PM
You are posting too, Tzvi...  : :P
Title: Re: Why are Israelis on the forum now? It's Shabbat!
Post by: Tzvi Ben Roshel1 on October 20, 2007, 07:54:51 PM
You are posting too, Tzvi...  : :P

I live in Queens, when I was posting it wasnt Shabb--t yet, but it was Shabb---t in Israel. I was pointing to the fact that someone earlier who lives in Israel said he will respect the forum and not post on Shabb--t. (and it wasnt only 1 person from their).
Title: Re: Why are Israelis on the forum now? It's Shabbat!
Post by: Kiwi on October 20, 2007, 08:04:27 PM
MAYBE SOMEONE NOT JEWISH TAKES OVER DURING SHABBOT

I think we were well behaved while the time pasted. No fighting we were having fun  ^-^
Title: Re: Why are Israelis on the forum now? It's Shabbat!
Post by: Eliezer Ben Avraham on October 20, 2007, 08:16:24 PM
Was the forum not closed this Shabbat? I didn't have time to lock it before Shabbat and I thought Jimmy would have done it. Since I am not Shomer Shabbat, I could have locked it on Shabbat but that would defeat the purpose. I think for now on, Jimmy should log in on Friday Night to see if it's locked, and if it's not, then he should lock it.


Also what can we do about different time zones? not everyone is from NY...
Title: Re: Why are Israelis on the forum now? It's Shabbat!
Post by: Tzvi Ben Roshel1 on October 20, 2007, 08:19:42 PM
Was the forum not closed this Shabbat? I didn't have time to lock it before Shabbat and I thought Jimmy would have done it. Since I am not Shomer Shabbat, I could have locked it on Shabbat but that would defeat the purpose. I think for now on, Jimmy should log in on Friday Night to see if it's locked, and if it's not, then he should lock it.


Also what can we do about different time zones? not everyone is from NY...

It was decided to close it by the NY time Zone, and the Israelis (or anyone for whom it starts earlier) to be told (and were told) to respect the Shabb--t.
 The situation is disgusting.
Title: Re: Why are Israelis on the forum now? It's Shabbat!
Post by: Dr. Dan on October 20, 2007, 08:38:46 PM
Was the forum not closed this Shabbat? I didn't have time to lock it before Shabbat and I thought Jimmy would have done it. Since I am not Shomer Shabbat, I could have locked it on Shabbat but that would defeat the purpose. I think for now on, Jimmy should log in on Friday Night to see if it's locked, and if it's not, then he should lock it.




actaully the forum was open till 2 or 3 PM..I'm not shomer shabbat..and i did go on the forum, but only posted once in reaction to something that I would consider to be an emergency...someone that i perceived as a troll..
Title: Re: Why are Israelis on the forum now? It's Shabbat!
Post by: Dr. Dan on October 20, 2007, 08:48:59 PM
I just want to say that if it was a mistake for it to be open on Shabbat, fine...

And I do appreciate the fact that when it is closed on Shabbat that it is..

Title: Re: Why are Israelis on the forum now? It's Shabbat!
Post by: Wayne Jude on October 20, 2007, 09:36:47 PM
I try to respect the Sabbath.We as a family do observe the sabbath even tho we don't have  to.
Title: Re: Why are Israelis on the forum now? It's Shabbat!
Post by: Wayne Jude on October 20, 2007, 09:54:03 PM
We do because I believe we should.Im not a jewish person.I was just born one.But out of respect I do as a Christian.Where I live there are seventh day Baptists.I observe as they do! :)
Title: Re: Why are Israelis on the forum now? It's Shabbat!
Post by: Wayne Jude on October 20, 2007, 10:44:41 PM
More or less and I wont go into it.I know where I come from and I make my own choices bro.I will live with such.But thanks for caring!
wayne jude!
Title: Re: Why are Israelis on the forum now? It's Shabbat!
Post by: Ehud on October 20, 2007, 10:48:12 PM
More or less and I wont go into it.I know where I come from and I make my own choices bro.I will live with such.But thanks for caring!
wayne jude!

You may be a Christian but that doesn't make you a non-Jew.  It just makes you a Christian Jew, or a Jew who practices Christianity. 

Ceasing to be Jewish is like ceasing to be black.  It's not possible. 
Title: Re: Why are Israelis on the forum now? It's Shabbat!
Post by: Wayne Jude on October 20, 2007, 10:53:45 PM
I know thanks bro.I do our best.My kids know.My grandma left prior to the holocaust.So in my family it is still a bit touchy subject!but we try.!My mother was afriad it will happen again and it will.Be safe.
Title: Re: Why are Israelis on the forum now? It's Shabbat!
Post by: cjd on October 20, 2007, 10:59:05 PM
I just want to say that if it was a mistake for it to be open on Shabbat, fine...

And I do appreciate the fact that when it is closed on Shabbat that it is..


Why are we looking for culprits here. The forum has been open for many Shabbats in the past. Folks need to observe Shabbat for the right reason and that reason is not because someone else is finger pointing and telling them that they should. The fact that the forum was left open is not the end of the world. For the most part the forum was very quiet. Most folks who needed to make the observation did. Lets not use religion as a tool to make others feel bad. The forum should be a place of learning.
Title: Re: Why are Israelis on the forum now? It's Shabbat!
Post by: Tzvi Ben Roshel1 on October 20, 2007, 10:59:23 PM
I know thanks bro.I do our best.My kids know.My grandma left prior to the holocaust.So in my family it is still a bit touchy subject!but we try.!My mother was afriad it will happen again and it will.Be safe.

As if you will be safe, hitler killed non-jews with Jewish grandfathers. Either way im not preaching.
Title: Re: Why are Israelis on the forum now? It's Shabbat!
Post by: Ehud on October 20, 2007, 11:02:14 PM
I know thanks bro.I do our best.My kids know.My grandma left prior to the holocaust.So in my family it is still a bit touchy subject!but we try.!My mother was afriad it will happen again and it will.Be safe.

Do you think there will be a Holocaust in the U.S.?  If not, what is there to be afraid of?  Seems really paranoid to me. 

My grandmother also left Europe before the Holocaust as did many Jews, but that didn't stop them from acknowledging their Judaism. 
Title: Re: Why are Israelis on the forum now? It's Shabbat!
Post by: Wayne Jude on October 20, 2007, 11:09:58 PM
Yes I do think it will come a  gain but not for just the Jew but those who love them! :(
Title: Re: Why are Israelis on the forum now? It's Shabbat!
Post by: Kiwi on October 20, 2007, 11:21:18 PM
I know thanks bro.I do our best.My kids know.My grandma left prior to the holocaust.So in my family it is still a bit touchy subject!but we try.!My mother was afriad it will happen again and it will.Be safe.

Do you think there will be a Holocaust in the U.S.?  If not, what is there to be afraid of?  Seems really paranoid to me. 

I know of many cases even here in Australia that it happens hence the strong following of the Messianic ways, out side the major cities.

Title: Re: Why are Israelis on the forum now? It's Shabbat!
Post by: Kiwi on October 20, 2007, 11:26:45 PM
I know thanks bro.I do our best.My kids know.My grandma left prior to the holocaust.So in my family it is still a bit touchy subject!but we try.!My mother was afraid it will happen again and it will.Be safe.

Do you think there will be a Holocaust in the U.S.?  If not, what is there to be afraid of?  Seems really paranoid to me. 

I know of many cases even here in Australia that it happens hence the strong following of the Messianic ways, out side the major cities.




If they leave their religion, they commit a spiritual Holocaust.



No they didn't they still practice nothing changes just they are hidding in a christian church. As they did to   
all those years ago.
Title: Re: Why are Israelis on the forum now? It's Shabbat!
Post by: Dan on October 20, 2007, 11:29:50 PM
OK, so what's the general consensus?
We are ALL in agreement that the Sabbath must be respected... however there are many Gentiles on this forum who cannot wait for it to open up to post again, in this case I was delighted to have it open for this long. I hope you can understand our enthusiasm!
Title: Re: Why are Israelis on the forum now? It's Shabbat!
Post by: Kiwi on October 20, 2007, 11:36:12 PM
I know thanks bro.I do our best.My kids know.My grandma left prior to the holocaust.So in my family it is still a bit touchy subject!but we try.!My mother was afraid it will happen again and it will.Be safe.

Do you think there will be a Holocaust in the U.S.?  If not, what is there to be afraid of?  Seems really paranoid to me. 

I know of many cases even here in Australia that it happens hence the strong following of the Messianic ways, out side the major cities.




If they leave their religion, they commit a spiritual Holocaust.



No they didn't they still practice nothing changes just they are hidding in a Christian church. As they did to   
all those years ago.


But if they become "Messianic" they are commuting spiritual genocide since that means they left Judaism.



No they use that label to stay within a safe area. Many of this people I am speaking of, were there and survived, this is something they do to cope. No WAY are they less than any other Jew.
Title: Re: Why are Israelis on the forum now? It's Shabbat!
Post by: Dexter on October 21, 2007, 01:16:22 AM
You are posting too, Tzvi...  : :P

I live in Queens, when I was posting it wasnt Shabbat  yet, but it was Shabb---t in Israel. I was pointing to the fact that someone earlier who lives in Israel said he will respect the forum and not post on Shabbat . (and it wasnt only 1 person from their).
I said it because when Menashe said that the forum will be closed, but it wasn't..for some reason.