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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: The Shadow on October 28, 2007, 12:07:06 AM
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I think Israel would win. I read on the internet that israel has the second largest Airforce in the world. And the fourth or 5th most powerful Army in the world. They didn't name the other countries who were ahead of Israel. I'm guessing, USA, Russia, and China
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I think Israel would win. I read on the internet that israel has the second largest Airforce in the world. And the fourth or 5th most powerful Army in the world. They didn't name the other countries who were ahead of Israel. I'm guessing, USA, Russia, and China
Why go to war with England? Who cares about England they are powerless and full of it.
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Silly question, but Chaimfan's answer anyway.
With G-d's help and assuming Israel actually attempts to fight--Yes
If Israel "fights" the way she did against Hezbollah--Absolutely Not
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Silly question, but Chaimfan's answer anyway.
With G-d's help and assuming Israel actually attempts to fight--Yes
If Israel "fights" the way she did against Hezbollah--Absolutely Not
but whats the point? England is in the middle of no-where and is a wasteland
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I said it was a silly question. :D ;D
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The Brits of today are NOT the same ones who defeated Hitler. They are scrotumless, PC, pandering girlie men. Israel would romp it in.
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The Brits of today are NOT the same ones who defeated Hitler. They are scrotumless, PC, pandering girlie men. Israel would romp it in.
Unfortunately the exact same is true of the Jews of today versus the ones who liberated the Holy Land. The IDF gets pushed around by roving gangs of teenaged Hamas thugs--because it chooses to. This is a disgrace and sadly, I do not see this changing without either a truly catastrophic, devastating loss (I mean something on the magnitude that would make what Hezbollah did two summers ago look like a minor inconvenience) or Kahanists taking power.
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The Brits of today are NOT the same ones who defeated Hitler. They are scrotumless, PC, pandering girlie men. Israel would romp it in.
Unfortunately the exact same is true of the Jews of today versus the ones who liberated the Holy Land. The IDF gets pushed around by roving gangs of teenaged Hamas thugs--because it chooses to. This is a disgrace and sadly, I do not see this changing without either a truly catastrophic, devastating loss (I mean something on the magnitude that would make what Hezbollah did two summers ago look like a minor inconvenience) or Kahanists taking power.
But at least in Israel, the religious/ nationalist community is growing fast and has a chance of saving Israel. There is NO such hope for Britain. The majority are drunk with political correctness and there is no alternative movement on the rise.
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The problem is that the heroic, noble, patriotic Jews are still a minority as of this time, and that the guns and power are still in the hands of the Bolsheviks. They would not be able to save Israel without prevailing in a very nasty civil war, and we all know that right-wing Jews do not fight fellow Jews--it is the other way around. :(
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The problem is that the heroic, noble, patriotic Jews are still a minority as of this time, and that the guns and power are still in the hands of the Bolsheviks. They would not be able to save Israel without prevailing in a very nasty civil war, and we all know that right-wing Jews do not fight fellow Jews--it is the other way around. :(
Religious Jews are nearly half of the Corps of Officers in the Army now. In a few years they'll be the majority.
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Of course Israel would win! There are some reasons for this:
1) England (and it pains me to say this since I have English ancestry) is in deep moral decay.
It is rotting from the inside because of all the mooslims that are contaminating the country,
2) Israel always has G-d's protection and Jerusalem will be like a rock, against all its enemies
3) A Jew with a weapon will allways make the world tremble with fear. The world likes to see Jews take violence quietly, but when a Jew is ready to fight, enemy nations tremble with fear, just like arabs trembled before Rabbi Kahane.
Unfortunetly today's modern state of Israel is not much better than today UK all those arguments about moral decay, PC, and large muslim minority fits to the Shmolmert and Barach "Jewish State" as well; argument about Divine protection are valid for Jewish nation but not for Samaritan style Bolshevik kingdom of Israel. Israel shoudbe the light of the nations by applyng Torah based values and leaderhip but still mayority of Jews in both Israel and diaspora are self hating liberals.
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The Brits have a Proffesional Military i'm sorry to say in a conventional war the Brits would Humiliate the mainly conscript IDF :(
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The Brits have a Proffesional Military i'm sorry to say in a conventional war the Brits would Humiliate the mainly conscript IDF :(
Exactly!
If Israel went to war with England, not only would they acheive very little but a half of the EU would chip in and support Britain.
British society may be the pits but England is a great nation, and this shines through its architecture, acheivements and position. Long live Britain.
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Absolutely! Israel would flush them down the loo.
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The Brits have a Proffesional Military i'm sorry to say in a conventional war the Brits would Humiliate the mainly conscript IDF :(
Yes, but a professional army made of of people with NO sense of nationalism, NO pride and NO balls. The members of Britains armed forces have to attend ethnic sensitivity training for pitty's sake!!
Did you see the pathetic performance of the once great Royal Navy in the Persian Gulf recently. An armed party of RN and Royal Marines were captured by a pissant Iranian gunboat right under the nose of a British destroyer who could have blown it out of the water!
During their capture, one of the Brit service persons (a woman...in a combat role!) wore islamic garb and made propaganda tapes!! When they were released one of those nutless Brits wished the Iranian president 'success'!!!!
Britain is dead!
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The Brits have a Proffesional Military i'm sorry to say in a conventional war the Brits would Humiliate the mainly conscript IDF :(
Yes, but a professional army made of of people with NO sense of nationalism, NO pride and NO balls. The members of Britains armed forces have to attend ethnic sensitivity training for pitty's sake!!
Did you see the pathetic performance of the once great Royal Navy in the Persian Gulf recently. An armed party of RN and Royal Marines were captured by a pissant Iranian gunboat right under the nose of a British destroyer who could have blown it out of the water!
During their capture, one of the Brit service persons (a woman...in a combat role!) wore islamic garb and made propaganda tapes!! When they were released one of those nutless Brits wished the Iranian president 'success'!!!!
Britain is dead!
Newman good point as usual O0
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Hmmmm
UK - better navy
Israel - better airforce
I think it would be really hard for Israel to invade Britain but it wouldn't be so hard for Britain to invade Israel (I am sure all the Arabs would welcome the British armies to march through their countries).
UK vs Israel ? As much as I love the IDF , it would be the UK who eventually wins.
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I'm gonna be honest, I don't have faith in the IDF anymore, after the second Lebanon War. Israel had scores and scores of Merkava battle tanks destroyed from ro0cket propelled grenades, so how great is THE VAUNTED MERKAVA TANK? Israel can't even beat a rag-tag army of 2000 Hezbolla figheters. Israel doesn't fight to win, and with this leadership they couldn't take on England. No Way!
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I'm gonna be honest, I don't have faith in the IDF anymore, after the second Lebanon War. Israel had scores and scores of Merkava battle tanks destroyed from ro0cket propelled grenades, so how great is THE VAUNTED MERKAVA TANK? Israel can't even beat a rag-tag army of 2000 Hezbolla figheters. Israel doesn't fight to win, and with this leadership they couldn't take on England. No Way!
Scores & scores ? Only 5 tanks were destroyed (52 hits)- considering Israel went in to booby trapped Lebanon and was ambushed constanty that is very good.
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Don't tell fibs just because your name is Merkava :)
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The Brits have a Proffesional Military i'm sorry to say in a conventional war the Brits would Humiliate the mainly conscript IDF :(
Yes, but a professional army made of of people with NO sense of nationalism, NO pride and NO balls. The members of Britains armed forces have to attend ethnic sensitivity training for pitty's sake!!
Did you see the pathetic performance of the once great Royal Navy in the Persian Gulf recently. An armed party of RN and Royal Marines were captured by a pissant Iranian gunboat right under the nose of a British destroyer who could have blown it out of the water!
During their capture, one of the Brit service persons (a woman...in a combat role!) wore islamic garb and made propaganda tapes!! When they were released one of those nutless Brits wished the Iranian president 'success'!!!!
Britain is dead!
Exactly, compare that behavior to Fabrizio Quattrocchi
Quattrocchi's kidnappers forced him to dig his own grave and kneel beside it wearing a hood as they prepared to film his death, but he defied them by pulling off the hood and shouting "vi faccio vedere come muore un italiano!" -- "I show you how an Italian dies!" He was then shot in the back of the neck. He refused to make a propaganda video for them.
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The Brits will be too busy drinking their tea and guarding their keys.
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Don't tell fibs just because your name is Merkava
lol .....well i felt under attack ! On a serious note here is the source
http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?t=90036 (http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?t=90036)
At the end of the day its war and there will always be casualties. No tank is immune to rockets or land mines.
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Religious Jews are nearly half of the Corps of Officers in the Army now. In a few years they'll be the majority.
But will they be willing to fight their left-wing "fellow" Jews?
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Religious Jews are nearly half of the Corps of Officers in the Army now. In a few years they'll be the majority.
But will they be willing to fight their left-wing "fellow" Jews?
That's exactly what Rabin was trying to avoid.
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In any event, at least for now, I agree with Shadow. Israel and Britain are both currently debased, gutless, PC shells of their former selves, but Britain is much larger and has more guns and bombs.
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yes, i think english muslims would loose in that war 8;)
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I'm gonna be honest, I don't have faith in the IDF anymore, after the second Lebanon War. Israel had scores and scores of Merkava battle tanks destroyed from ro0cket propelled grenades, so how great is THE VAUNTED MERKAVA TANK? Israel can't even beat a rag-tag army of 2000 Hezbolla figheters. Israel doesn't fight to win, and with this leadership they couldn't take on England. No Way!
It's not quite as simple as Israel being unable to defeat a "rag-tag" army. The Lebanon war consisted of a lot of guerrilla warfare which is a completely different ball of wax from conventional warfare. There's a big difference from flying over artillery bases and bombing them to next Tuesday (as was done in the '67 war) and between trying to navigate yourself through specific unfamiliar streets and homes to try to find and fight your enemies that way (as what was so prevalent in the Lebanon war.) So I think it's important to differentiate between conventional warfare and guerrilla warfare when it comes to comparing wars and determining whether Israel could defeat her opponent.
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Okay, Israel vs The Empire, but the Empire only gets to use Tie Fighters, no Star Destroyers or Death Star, just Tie Fighters vs Israel's Airforce.
Yes, I'm making fun of this silly thread. :::D
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Okay, Israel vs The Empire, but the Empire only gets to use Tie Fighters, no Star Destroyers or Death Star, just Tie Fighters vs Israel's Airforce.
Yes, I'm making fun of this silly thread. :::D
Israel just might have to turn to and use the dark side of the schwartz! O0