JTF.ORG Forum

General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: Dexter on October 29, 2007, 01:05:28 PM

Title: So, why do you think Communism, Anarchism and Hippiesm is wrong ?
Post by: Dexter on October 29, 2007, 01:05:28 PM
Why do you think Communism, Anarchism and Hippiesm (optional  ^-^) is wrong ?

Well, first of all, about Communism:
I think Communism is wrong because it's an Utopian ideology that think it is possible to reduce the gaps between the diffrent classes. It claims that there is a war between classes, this war is crossing nations and continents and actually claims that the world isn't divided to States and Nations, but to classes. The Communists says that the bourgeoises and the higher classes are utilizing the lower classes and actually controlling it, but for some reason the communist idea is need to utilize people for the cummonist machine will work, and this is necessary for it. And more and that issue, Communism is for dictatorship regime so it's actually made people "free" from the "bourgeoises dictators" and prison them under the Communist dream, which contain brutal censorship and just brutal things in general.

Anarchism:
Let's say we live in an Anarchist world. Everyone are happy and cheerfull and live in diffrent villages that every village have his own democratic ideology. One day, I decide to built a new village with a community and I decide it will be a fascist village, than I make army and take other villages under my control and than the "Anarchist world" is gone..
There are a lot of problems in Anarchism, crime is also a main problem in my opinion.
Title: Re: So, why do you think Communism, Anarchism and Hippiesm is wrong ?
Post by: Dexter on October 29, 2007, 02:59:17 PM
So all of you bolsheviks thinks Communism, Anarchism and Hippiesm is right ?
Well, that's why in the political test (http://jtf.org/forum_english/index.php?topic=10372.0) you were all Bolsheviks as well   :laugh:
Title: Re: So, why do you think Communism, Anarchism and Hippiesm is wrong ?
Post by: Trumpeldor on October 29, 2007, 03:00:54 PM
Why is communism wrong?

I can give you 50 million reasons.
Title: Re: So, why do you think Communism, Anarchism and Hippiesm is wrong ?
Post by: Wayne Jude on October 29, 2007, 03:03:30 PM
Very funny!Call me a jerk, call me satan[Erika]call me a racist,Call me a nazi for cryin out loud, but nobody call me a commy!LOL :::D
Title: Re: So, why do you think Communism, Anarchism and Hippiesm is wrong ?
Post by: Eliezer Ben Avraham on October 29, 2007, 03:52:14 PM
Very funny!Call me a jerk, call me satan[Erika]call me a racist,Call me a nazi for cryin out loud, but nobody call me a commy!LOL :::D
idk whats the worst out of all of those......
Title: Re: So, why do you think Communism, Anarchism and Hippiesm is wrong ?
Post by: Ulli on October 29, 2007, 04:38:19 PM
Why do you think Communism, Anarchism and Hippiesm (optional  ^-^) is wrong ?

Well, first of all, about Communism:
I think Communism is wrong because it's an Utopian ideology that think it is possible to reduce the gaps between the diffrent classes. It claims that there is a war between classes, this war is crossing nations and continents and actually claims that the world isn't divided to States and Nations, but to classes. The Communists says that the bourgeoises and the higher classes are utilizing the lower classes and actually controlling it, but for some reason the communist idea is need to utilize people for the cummonist machine will work, and this is necessary for it. And more and that issue, Communism is for dictatorship regime so it's actually made people "free" from the "bourgeoises dictators" and prison them under the Communist dream, which contain brutal censorship and just brutal things in general.

Anarchism:
Let's say we live in an Anarchist world. Everyone are happy and cheerfull and live in diffrent villages that every village have his own democratic ideology. One day, I decide to built a new village with a community and I decide it will be a fascist village, than I make army and take other villages under my control and than the "Anarchist world" is gone..
There are a lot of problems in Anarchism, crime is also a main problem in my opinion.

I agree with your reasons against this two evil ideologies. But there is one more: Communists deny god and I have never seen a religious anarchist.
Title: Re: So, why do you think Communism, Anarchism and Hippiesm is wrong ?
Post by: Wayne Jude on October 29, 2007, 04:47:04 PM
There all bad just joshin!LOL ;)
Title: Re: So, why do you think Communism, Anarchism and Hippiesm is wrong ?
Post by: Hail Columbia on October 29, 2007, 06:32:56 PM
Why is communism wrong?

I can give you 50 million reasons.

You should add at least 100 million more.
Title: Re: So, why do you think Communism, Anarchism and Hippiesm is wrong ?
Post by: Dexter on October 30, 2007, 01:05:23 AM
Why do you think Communism, Anarchism and Hippiesm (optional  ^-^) is wrong ?

Well, first of all, about Communism:
I think Communism is wrong because it's an Utopian ideology that think it is possible to reduce the gaps between the diffrent classes. It claims that there is a war between classes, this war is crossing nations and continents and actually claims that the world isn't divided to States and Nations, but to classes. The Communists says that the bourgeoises and the higher classes are utilizing the lower classes and actually controlling it, but for some reason the communist idea is need to utilize people for the cummonist machine will work, and this is necessary for it. And more and that issue, Communism is for dictatorship regime so it's actually made people "free" from the "bourgeoises dictators" and prison them under the Communist dream, which contain brutal censorship and just brutal things in general.

Anarchism:
Let's say we live in an Anarchist world. Everyone are happy and cheerfull and live in diffrent villages that every village have his own democratic ideology. One day, I decide to built a new village with a community and I decide it will be a fascist village, than I make army and take other villages under my control and than the "Anarchist world" is gone..
There are a lot of problems in Anarchism, crime is also a main problem in my opinion.

I agree with your reasons against this two evil ideologies. But there is one more: Communists deny G-d and I have never seen a religious anarchist.
There are few religiouse Anarchists and Communists as far as I know...
Title: Re: So, why do you think Communism, Anarchism and Hippiesm is wrong ?
Post by: Wayne Jude on October 30, 2007, 01:10:49 AM
Not many, just as many as kind loving good guy Nazis!LOL ;)
Title: Re: So, why do you think Communism, Anarchism and Hippiesm is wrong ?
Post by: Vito on October 30, 2007, 01:13:11 AM
It is an anti-religious, anti-moral political system that encourages people to submit their morality, will and dignity to the government, turning people into brainless sheep.
Title: Re: So, why do you think Communism, Anarchism and Hippiesm is wrong ?
Post by: Wayne Jude on October 30, 2007, 01:17:53 AM
Or the temperance movement of the 20s ;)
Title: Re: So, why do you think Communism, Anarchism and Hippiesm is wrong ?
Post by: Vito on October 30, 2007, 01:34:48 AM
I am against heavy drinking... but hard liquer did take care of my insomnia  :)
Title: Re: So, why do you think Communism, Anarchism and Hippiesm is wrong ?
Post by: Wayne Jude on October 30, 2007, 01:39:02 AM
Live with insomnia for 25 years.There ain't a drink around to really help me.But glad it worked 4 you! :)
Title: Re: So, why do you think Communism, Anarchism and Hippiesm is wrong ?
Post by: Kiwi on October 30, 2007, 01:43:27 AM
Very funny!Call me a jerk, call me satan[Erika]call me a racist,Call me a nazi for cryin out loud, but nobody call me a commy!LOL :::D

Ok your are a commy you grow water mellons.  And we all know that that means  :::D
Title: Re: So, why do you think Communism, Anarchism and Hippiesm is wrong ?
Post by: Wayne Jude on October 30, 2007, 01:44:49 AM
sorry don't get it :)
Title: Re: So, why do you think Communism, Anarchism and Hippiesm is wrong ?
Post by: RationalThought110 on October 30, 2007, 01:49:56 AM
"And more and that issue, Communism is for dictatorship regime so it's actually made people "free" from the "bourgeoises dictators" and prison them under the Communist dream, which contain brutal censorship and just brutal things in general." 

Do you mean to say that it doesn't make people "free" like the communist dictators claim and that it does the opposite?
Title: Re: So, why do you think Communism, Anarchism and Hippiesm is wrong ?
Post by: Raulmarrio2000 on October 30, 2007, 04:39:38 AM
Communism: I disagree with it for several reasons. It has always forced people to be atheist, forbidden them to travel abroad, oppressed them.....
Ideologically, I think it is a mistake to reduce the gap between the rich and the poor. The State should help the poor to live better, not simply reducing the rich's wealth if it is theirs. Communists just want to make everyone economically equal. No matter to them if we are all poor.

Anarchism would be wonderfull, but it is something impossible. If there is no Law, them who will prevent crime, and above all, who will prevent that anyone self-proclaims a king and rule ver us?
Hashem is wiser than man and said we must at least appoint judges. Dinim Mitzvah.

Hippiesm is just a life style. Anyone is free to choose his style as far as he obeys the Law and doesn't harm others.
Title: Re: So, why do you think Communism, Anarchism and Hippiesm is wrong ?
Post by: Kiwi on October 30, 2007, 04:53:38 AM
sorry don't get it :)

Watermellons  are green on the outside and red on the inside, like alot of enviromental Nazi's such as green peace, they hide in their ranks members of Hamas.

Great example was one of the 17 arrested in New Zealand was contected to Hamas.

The use of the word watermellon is widely used in the US military, and ours.  O0


Title: Re: So, why do you think Communism, Anarchism and Hippiesm is wrong ?
Post by: Wayne Jude on October 30, 2007, 04:56:06 AM
Never heard it what about pears?LOL :::D
Title: Re: So, why do you think Communism, Anarchism and Hippiesm is wrong ?
Post by: Kiwi on October 30, 2007, 05:13:26 AM
Remember RLee Ermey The Mail Call guy on the History channel, the Retired Marine?

Thats why he squashes them all the time  :::D

He is not a nice bloke , but he does put on a good show.

Title: Re: So, why do you think Communism, Anarchism and Hippiesm is wrong ?
Post by: Wayne Jude on October 30, 2007, 05:15:33 AM
You make no sense girl.I can read English well but your out there! ::)
Title: Re: So, why do you think Communism, Anarchism and Hippiesm is wrong ?
Post by: Kiwi on October 30, 2007, 05:21:53 AM
You make no sense girl.I can read English well but your out there! ::)

Rlee on the show squashes them, and shots them, as apart of his show. Have you not seen it?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FjR2-_DPj6Q watch the tube  O0
Title: Re: So, why do you think Communism, Anarchism and Hippiesm is wrong ?
Post by: Wayne Jude on October 30, 2007, 05:27:24 AM
NO but oh well I need some sleep.NIte! :)
Title: Re: So, why do you think Communism, Anarchism and Hippiesm is wrong ?
Post by: Dexter on October 30, 2007, 07:44:55 AM
"And more and that issue, Communism is for dictatorship regime so it's actually made people "free" from the "bourgeoises dictators" and prison them under the Communist dream, which contain brutal censorship and just brutal things in general." 

Do you mean to say that it doesn't make people "free" like the communist dictators claim and that it does the opposite?
Yes .
Title: Re: So, why do you think Communism, Anarchism and Hippiesm is wrong ?
Post by: Ulli on October 30, 2007, 08:14:42 AM
Why do you think Communism, Anarchism and Hippiesm (optional  ^-^) is wrong ?

Well, first of all, about Communism:
I think Communism is wrong because it's an Utopian ideology that think it is possible to reduce the gaps between the diffrent classes. It claims that there is a war between classes, this war is crossing nations and continents and actually claims that the world isn't divided to States and Nations, but to classes. The Communists says that the bourgeoises and the higher classes are utilizing the lower classes and actually controlling it, but for some reason the communist idea is need to utilize people for the cummonist machine will work, and this is necessary for it. And more and that issue, Communism is for dictatorship regime so it's actually made people "free" from the "bourgeoises dictators" and prison them under the Communist dream, which contain brutal censorship and just brutal things in general.

Anarchism:
Let's say we live in an Anarchist world. Everyone are happy and cheerfull and live in diffrent villages that every village have his own democratic ideology. One day, I decide to built a new village with a community and I decide it will be a fascist village, than I make army and take other villages under my control and than the "Anarchist world" is gone..
There are a lot of problems in Anarchism, crime is also a main problem in my opinion.

I agree with your reasons against this two evil ideologies. But there is one more: Communists deny G-d and I have never seen a religious anarchist.
There are few religiouse Anarchists and Communists as far as I know...

I know, that some left-wing Christians have socialistic views. But real christian or jewish Communists? This is a little bit schizophrenic :). How this sects call themselves?
Title: Re: So, why do you think Communism, Anarchism and Hippiesm is wrong ?
Post by: Dexter on October 30, 2007, 08:29:19 AM
Why do you think Communism, Anarchism and Hippiesm (optional  ^-^) is wrong ?

Well, first of all, about Communism:
I think Communism is wrong because it's an Utopian ideology that think it is possible to reduce the gaps between the diffrent classes. It claims that there is a war between classes, this war is crossing nations and continents and actually claims that the world isn't divided to States and Nations, but to classes. The Communists says that the bourgeoises and the higher classes are utilizing the lower classes and actually controlling it, but for some reason the communist idea is need to utilize people for the cummonist machine will work, and this is necessary for it. And more and that issue, Communism is for dictatorship regime so it's actually made people "free" from the "bourgeoises dictators" and prison them under the Communist dream, which contain brutal censorship and just brutal things in general.

Anarchism:
Let's say we live in an Anarchist world. Everyone are happy and cheerfull and live in diffrent villages that every village have his own democratic ideology. One day, I decide to built a new village with a community and I decide it will be a fascist village, than I make army and take other villages under my control and than the "Anarchist world" is gone..
There are a lot of problems in Anarchism, crime is also a main problem in my opinion.

I agree with your reasons against this two evil ideologies. But there is one more: Communists deny G-d and I have never seen a religious anarchist.
There are few religiouse Anarchists and Communists as far as I know...

I know, that some left-wing Christians have socialistic views. But real christian or jewish Communists? This is a little bit schizophrenic :). How this sects call themselves?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_communism
 ^-^
Title: Re: So, why do you think Communism, Anarchism and Hippiesm is wrong ?
Post by: MarZutra on October 30, 2007, 09:19:17 AM
Well Communism and Anarchism are polar opposites from both a social and political perspective (in working reality) and hippy-ism is simply a bad dressed drugged up freak who professes to a contortion of Communism and this New Age gnostic paganism.  I think all are clearly wrong however "peaceful" this Utopia maybe....  I think looking at the reality that all have proven on the ground dictates the bankruptcy of each respective ideology...imo
Title: Re: So, why do you think Communism, Anarchism and Hippiesm is wrong ?
Post by: Ulli on October 30, 2007, 09:24:03 AM
Why do you think Communism, Anarchism and Hippiesm (optional  ^-^) is wrong ?

Well, first of all, about Communism:
I think Communism is wrong because it's an Utopian ideology that think it is possible to reduce the gaps between the diffrent classes. It claims that there is a war between classes, this war is crossing nations and continents and actually claims that the world isn't divided to States and Nations, but to classes. The Communists says that the bourgeoises and the higher classes are utilizing the lower classes and actually controlling it, but for some reason the communist idea is need to utilize people for the cummonist machine will work, and this is necessary for it. And more and that issue, Communism is for dictatorship regime so it's actually made people "free" from the "bourgeoises dictators" and prison them under the Communist dream, which contain brutal censorship and just brutal things in general.

Anarchism:
Let's say we live in an Anarchist world. Everyone are happy and cheerfull and live in diffrent villages that every village have his own democratic ideology. One day, I decide to built a new village with a community and I decide it will be a fascist village, than I make army and take other villages under my control and than the "Anarchist world" is gone..
There are a lot of problems in Anarchism, crime is also a main problem in my opinion.

I agree with your reasons against this two evil ideologies. But there is one more: Communists deny G-d and I have never seen a religious anarchist.
There are few religiouse Anarchists and Communists as far as I know...

I know, that some left-wing Christians have socialistic views. But real christian or jewish Communists? This is a little bit schizophrenic :). How this sects call themselves?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_communism
 ^-^

I never heard about this groups before. I have bookmarked the wikipedia-website. Thank you Dexter.