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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: Mifletzet on October 31, 2007, 10:40:51 PM
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If the 1976 Israeli Entebbe Raid had been a failure, with all the rescue force being killed or captured, what would have been the result?
If the 1981 Osirak Raid had been a failure, and with none of the attacking F15s and F16s returning, what would the Israelis have done?
If the likely pending Israeli attack on Iran is a complete failure, despite Israeli confidence
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?c=JPArticle&cid=1192380704832&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull
what will be the effects & implications in the ME & worldwide?
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Have no fear...even if it were, Gd forbid, a failure, it really would be a blessing in disguise...Don't ask me how...
but if we, as Jews, are going to fight for our lives and survival, this is how it will have to be done to glorify Gd's name. And believe me, we won't fail in that because we know Gd will never allow it!
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Sometime G-d's Name is sanctified by the Jew's defeat, Yechezkel 28!
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Sometime G-d's Name is sanctified by the Jew's defeat, Yechezkel 28!
yes but only when Jew's are arrogant and the most arrogant Jews are in America not Israel, so it's unlikely that this would be a failure
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The IAF is the best airforce in the world (not the biggest) by far. When they have war games with the US forces, the Israelis shoot down 20 US planes to every one of theirs! They won't fail.
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They would fail if the Turks or US betrayed them, & warned the Iranians that the Israelis were in the air!
The Israelis should attack from a surprise direction: from India (after having secretly shipped over by containership a couple of squadrons!). The Indians hate the Iranians as much as they hate the Pakis!
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Failure is not an option!
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If Israel or America fought to win there is no doubt in my mind that the outcome would be a positive one. Both countries have not fought a war in a long while that they planned winning. They fight with one had tied behind there back. Its always a containment action. The world has never seen what either one of the countries could really do if they put all their current resources to work. The world would be very surprised. If this continues G-d will punish both for not using the resources he gave them to fight evil.
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If the 1976 Israeli Entebbe Raid had been a failure, with all the rescue force being killed or captured, what would have been the result?
If the 1981 Osirak Raid had been a failure, and with none of the attacking F15s and F16s returning, what would the Israelis have done?
If the likely pending Israeli attack on Iran is a complete failure, despite Israeli confidence
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?c=JPArticle&cid=1192380704832&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull
what will be the effects & implications in the ME & worldwide?
Let me tell you, If the Israelis attacked and failed early Monday morning, they would attack again, Tuesday morning
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If it were to come to war G-d forbid, it is really inconcievable that Iran could stand for more than a few months agains Israe,l alone even if Israel were completely abandoned politically....the problem is that the Iranians seem to have much more will to fight....but this is mainly a bluff......we all know who has military superiiority in the region.
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If it were to come to war G-d forbid, it is really inconcievable that Iran could stand for more than a few months agains Israe,l alone even if Israel were completely abandoned politically....the problem is that the Iranians seem to have much more will to fight....but this is mainly a bluff......we all know who has military superiiority in the region.
With all those jewish brains, you know the Israeli's would figure out a way to bomb up Iran.
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If it were to come to war G-d forbid, it is really inconcievable that Iran could stand for more than a few months agains Israe,l alone even if Israel were completely abandoned politically....the problem is that the Iranians seem to have much more will to fight....but this is mainly a bluff......we all know who has military superiiority in the region.
With all those jewish brains, you know the Israeli's would figure out a way to bomb up Iran.
They already know how, it's just a matter of carrying out the plan.
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If it were to come to war G-d forbid, it is really inconcievable that Iran could stand for more than a few months agains Israe,l alone even if Israel were completely abandoned politically....the problem is that the Iranians seem to have much more will to fight....but this is mainly a bluff......we all know who has military superiiority in the region.
With all those jewish brains, you know the Israeli's would figure out a way to bomb up Iran.
They already know how, it's just a matter of carrying out the plan.
I just don't fee too confident with people like Olmert in charge. This idiot publicly discussed surrendering Judea and Samaria while his nation was a war, when most of the population already realized the effects of disengagement from Gaza. Draft dodgers do not make good leaders, just look at Clinton and Bush...
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Gruzinit is absolutely right--there is a huge chance that current Israeli leadership would mount a half-assed airstrike against Iran designed to minimize "civilian" casualties. That would lead to failure. :o
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Gruzinit is absolutely right--there is a huge chance that current Israeli leadership would mount a half-assed airstrike against Iran designed to minimize "civilian" casualties. That would lead to failure. :o
Mr 1% approval rating is the EX-Prime Minister next election.
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Unfortunately, Mr. 1% approval rating is still in power almost 18 months after leading his country into a disastrous war. At least Golda Meir resigned due to her miscalculation leading up to the Yom Kippur War.
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Unfortunately, Mr. 1% approval rating is still in power almost 18 months after leading his country into a disastrous war. At least Golda Meir resigned due to her miscalculation leading up to the Yom Kippur War.
Golda had some scrap of decency. Schmuck face has none.
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Gruzinit, the Israeli public mainly despises Olmert for economic reasons and the like. The notion that the public has suddenly become right-wing and patriotic is a dangerously optimistic one. The majority of Israelis even now agree with, at least to some degree, his plan to hand Jerusalem over to the Arabs.
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Gruzinit, the Israeli public mainly despises Olmert for economic reasons and the like. The notion that the public has suddenly become right-wing and patriotic is a dangerously optimistic one. The majority of Israelis even now agree with, at least to some degree, his plan to hand Jerusalem over to the Arabs.
I highly disagree with you there C.F., in discussions with most of my family and their friends, most people dislike Olmert for his condusct during the war, you won't forget that when your house is being bombarded by katushas and your praying for your 18-year old son, who is in Lebanon to come home in one piece.
Israeli's feel powerless, pure and simple.
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Well, maybe you have more conscious and aware family and friends than most. I am not optimistic because even as the Israeli public claims the Gaza handover and Hezbollah debacle were mistakes, they are willing to indulge giving all or part of Jerusalem over to the Nazis.
Before we save Israel, we will have to confront average Israelis themselves.
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Iran would retalitate with missiles into Tel-Aviv. Hizbollocks & Syria attack Israel thinking its a good opportunity to regain the Golan Heights & the Shebba Farms. Hamastan attacks from Gaza launching its usual barrage of fire crackers.
Israel would quickly bomb Iran into submission, destroying the nuclear sites and crippling the Iranian infrastructure. While Hizbollocks & Syria are met by a strong IDF infantry. Eventhough they inflict considerable damage on the IDF their attack proves to be unsuccesful.
Once Iran is knocked out the IDF will push back the Syrian/Hizbollocks alliance. Syria, afraid of a fate similar to Lebanon surrenders. Israel then dives deep into Lebanon and crushes Hizbollocks once and for all. Israel re-occupies & cleanses Southern Lebannon from all its Muslim filth. At the same time it makes a push into Gaza and crushes Hamas.
Israel - eventhough shaken from the conflict emerges victorious and her deterrence has been firmly re-established.
Olmert, who lost both of his testicles in the process of having his prostate operated, retires from politics and opens up a Shawarma stand in Jerusalem.
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Israel never fails, look at all the times they should have failed but beat thier enemies...they are protected by a higher power ;)
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The IAF is the best airforce in the world (not the biggest) by far. When they have war games with the US forces, the Israelis shoot down 20 US planes to every one of theirs! They won't fail.
That's not possible. USAF is the best in the world. Please provide a link to this claim.
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It is true there were war games btw the U.S. and Israel the U.S. ranking officer in charge of the war games tried to fix the results the U.S. COS called the U.S. officer in charge of the war games to his office and gave him hell i'll look for a link
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When did this happen? Currently, the US has f-22 Raptors which renders all previous jet fighters useless.
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I know what Israel should do if the first attack fails. Fly over Iran and shove Al Sharpton out the bomb hole in the F16 Fighter plane. Dropping Al from that altitude, combined with his great weight, should flatten the Busheer nuclear power plant without a problem.
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Iran would retalitate with missiles into Tel-Aviv. Hizbollocks & Syria attack Israel thinking its a good opportunity to regain the Golan Heights & the Shebba Farms. Hamastan attacks from Gaza launching its usual barrage of fire crackers.
Israel would quickly bomb Iran into submission, destroying the nuclear sites and crippling the Iranian infrastructure. While Hizbollocks & Syria are met by a strong IDF infantry. Eventhough they inflict considerable damage on the IDF their attack proves to be unsuccesful.
Once Iran is knocked out the IDF will push back the Syrian/Hizbollocks alliance. Syria, afraid of a fate similar to Lebanon surrenders. Israel then dives deep into Lebanon and crushes Hizbollocks once and for all. Israel re-occupies & cleanses Southern Lebannon from all its Muslim filth. At the same time it makes a push into Gaza and crushes Hamas.
Israel - eventhough shaken from the conflict emerges victorious and her deterrence has been firmly re-established.
Olmert, who lost both of his testicles in the process of having his prostate operated, retires from politics and opens up a Shawarma stand in Jerusalem.
This is assuming Israel has the desire to survive, which she currently does not.
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It is ominous that Musharaff, as if he hasn't got enough problems, said today that "Pakistan's new government will support Iran against arrogant Zionist agression!".
Mushroom clouds, anyone?!
(http://irs.org.pk/images/PresidentOfPakistanA.JPG)
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To be honest, I have no faith in Israel after the second war in Lebanon. That was a pathetic performance. It emboldened all the Arab countries. Right after the war Syria started making threats.
I blame it on Israeli leadership. You know if Chaim were running things over there, the outcome of that war would have been drastically different. Hezbollah would not be able to hide among Lebanese civilians because Chaim would have bombed those towns to the ground civilians and all. Israel would not have only won the war, but would have annexed part of Lebanon.
What a blessing that would have been!
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Iran got everything they wanted after the most recent Israel/Hezbolah war. It was a Half/ass war to begin with, and all it did was make Muslims more united. If we declare war on Islam, it must be on ALL of Islam. Not just Iran. It must be on Iran, Pakistan, the Saudis, Syria, etc. We must obliterate Islam, just as we obliterated the Nazis. Unfortunetly, before we realise this is the case, we may lose millions of people in a mushroom cloud.