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Title: Is this true Jewish convert to catholic started ustashi
Post by: mord on November 08, 2007, 10:12:12 AM
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With this policy of Austria in mind, we see that in 1884 a movement was begun in Croatia, founded by a certain Josip Frank, a Jewish convert to Catholicism, called the Pravasi or the Frankovci. This was an ultra-nationalist Croatian Movement created to foster hatred towards Serbs among Croatians. It was composed of some wealthy residents of Zagreb, clergy, small-townsmen, and certain undesirables of Croatian society who organized local gangs of terrorists. One of its members in the early 20th century was Ante Pavelic, later to become the head of the so-called "Independent State of Croatia." These Frankovci were used by the Austrians for terrorizing the Serbian inhabitants of Bosnia, where they succeeded in murdering quite a few Serbian clergy.
>:( if true he's in hell
Title: Re: Is this true Jewish convert to catholic started ustashi
Post by: DALMACIJA on November 08, 2007, 10:23:53 AM
Josip Frank was Croatia’s right wing politician. His ideas were later used by the  Ustasa movement. He was probably a Jew who was converted to Catholicism.

He can not be considered as a Jew.
He accepted Catholicism and their system.


Title: Re: Is this true Jewish convert to catholic started ustashi
Post by: mord on November 08, 2007, 10:27:39 AM
True correct :)
Title: Re: Is this true Jewish convert to catholic started ustashi
Post by: MassuhDGoodName on November 08, 2007, 10:37:32 AM
Re:  "...Josip Frank..."

I wonder if he was in any way related to Jacob Frank the Sabbatean?
Title: Re: Is this true Jewish convert to catholic started ustashi
Post by: mord on November 08, 2007, 10:38:56 AM
YES PROBABLY they are evil the sabbateans
Title: Re: Is this true Jewish convert to catholic started ustashi
Post by: Husar on November 08, 2007, 11:56:51 AM
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With this policy of Austria in mind, we see that in 1884 a movement was begun in Croatia, founded by a certain Josip Frank, a Jewish convert to Catholicism, called the Pravasi or the Frankovci. This was an ultra-nationalist Croatian Movement created to foster hatred towards Serbs among Croatians. It was composed of some wealthy residents of Zagreb, clergy, small-townsmen, and certain undesirables of Croatian society who organized local gangs of terrorists. One of its members in the early 20th century was Ante Pavelic, later to become the head of the so-called "Independent State of Croatia." These Frankovci were used by the Austrians for terrorizing the Serbian inhabitants of Bosnia, where they succeeded in murdering quite a few Serbian clergy.
>:( if true he's in hell

It is in hell
(vaticannibalistic one),
yes.

 >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: Is this true Jewish convert to catholic started ustashi
Post by: Husar on November 08, 2007, 11:58:46 AM
Nowadays, you've got
another (!!!) Jew,
MLADEN SCHWARTZ,
openly USTASHA.

 >:( >:( >:(

Ready to go to hell,
also.

Title: Re: Is this true Jewish convert to catholic started ustashi
Post by: Mstislav on November 08, 2007, 07:44:08 PM
Nowadays, you've got
another (!!!) Jew,
MLADEN SCHWARTZ,
openly USTASHA.

 >:( >:( >:(

Ready to go to hell,
also.

A Jew who supports ustasha?! He moght as well dress up as a Nazi S.S soldier and go marching to Nazi music.
Title: Re: Is this true Jewish convert to catholic started ustashi
Post by: Husar on November 08, 2007, 07:51:36 PM
Here's MLADEN SCHWARTZ:

http://www.ultimatum.20m.com/index012005.htm

 >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: Is this true Jewish convert to catholic started ustashi
Post by: Ulli on November 08, 2007, 08:13:49 PM
YES PROBABLY they are evil the sabbateans

What exactly is a sabbatean?
Title: Re: Is this true Jewish convert to catholic started ustashi
Post by: MassuhDGoodName on November 08, 2007, 09:01:20 PM
Re:  "...What exactly is a sabbatean?..."

They were apostate Jews living in Europe who continued to follow the false and failed "messiah" who lived in the 1600's whose name was Shabtai Tzvi.

Tzvi began as an ultra devout Torah follower.  He possessed such powerful charisma and appeared so righteous that many during his lifetime believed him to be the Moshiach come to lead the Jews back to Israel and the Final Redemption.

He was eventually arrested by the Sultan of Turkey and forced to convert to Islam.

A dark cult developed after his death which advocated sexual perversity and preached that the only salvation for the Jew was to convert to another religion.

Because of his conversion to Islam, and because his numerous followers practiced "psychological denial" rather than accept the truth that they had allowed themselves to be misled by a false messiah, an apostate school of evil metaphysics developed...one which taught that their Messiah "had to convert to Islam" in order to bring salvation to Israel, and that it was therefore done and all Torah Laws could be and must be broken!

The most infamous Sabbatean was one Jacob Frank who lived in Poland.

Look him up and read for yourself, as his story is just too vile to discuss here.

The current term "Sabbatean" is perfectly reflected in the beliefs and ideology of Shimon Peres & Olmert--they theyselves find Judaism and its Torah and history repulsive, desiring only to see a final end to the Jewish People and their faith. 
Title: Re: Is this true Jewish convert to catholic started ustashi
Post by: Mstislav on November 08, 2007, 09:04:14 PM
That is creepy!!  :o
Title: Re: Is this true Jewish convert to catholic started ustashi
Post by: Ulli on November 08, 2007, 09:08:11 PM
Re:  "...What exactly is a sabbatean?..."

They were apostate Jews living in Europe who continued to follow the false and failed "messiah" who lived in the 1600's whose name was Shabtai Tzvi.

Tzvi began as an ultra devout Torah follower.  He possessed such powerful charisma and appeared so righteous that many during his lifetime believed him to be the Moshiach come to lead the Jews back to Israel and the Final Redemption.

He was eventually arrested by the Sultan of Turkey and forced to convert to Islam.

A dark cult developed after his death which advocated sexual perversity and preached that the only salvation for the Jew was to convert to another religion.

Because of his conversion to Islam, and because his numerous followers practiced "psychological denial" rather than accept the truth that they had allowed themselves to be misled by a false messiah, an apostate school of evil metaphysics developed...one which taught that their Messiah "had to convert to Islam" in order to bring salvation to Israel, and that it was therefore done and all Torah Laws could be and must be broken!

The most infamous Sabbatean was one Jacob Frank who lived in Poland.

Look him up and read for yourself, as his story is just too vile to discuss here.

The current term "Sabbatean" is perfectly reflected in the beliefs and ideology of Shimon Peres & Olmert--they theyselves find Judaism and its Torah and history repulsive, desiring only to see a final end to the Jewish People and their faith. 

Thank you :)
Title: Re: Is this true Jewish convert to catholic started ustashi
Post by: mord on November 11, 2007, 08:31:21 AM
Here's MLADEN SCHWARTZ:

http://www.ultimatum.20m.com/index012005.htm

 >:( >:( >:(
This is his newspaper
Title: Re: Is this true Jewish convert to catholic started ustashi
Post by: JTFFan on November 15, 2007, 07:31:13 AM
I didn't know the utashi were converts
Title: Re: Is this true Jewish convert to catholic started ustashi
Post by: Husar on November 15, 2007, 07:56:31 AM
I didn't know the utashi were converts


The worst USTASHA/NAZICROATS
are the Serbian-Rooted ones.
They were peacefull Orthodox Christians,
but got converted to scatholicism,
little by little, or forcefully...

Once scatholics, they HAD to
declare themselves as "croats".

Even thought there were Beautiful
and Patriotic Catholic Serbs,
like Mateja Ban (pronounce Mateya),
especially in the Dalmatian coast,
once scatholics, the Serbs began
to forget their Serbian Roots.

I guess it is the same case for the Jews
that converted to scatholicism,
they began to forget their Jewish Roots,
and became anti-semits.

JTFFan, you can't find worst haters,
than the converted ones...
Title: Re: Is this true Jewish convert to catholic started ustashi
Post by: Electra on November 15, 2007, 12:10:33 PM
When he converted he is a Jew no more. Just like nasty Albright.
Title: Re: Is this true Jewish convert to catholic started ustashi
Post by: newman on November 15, 2007, 01:06:33 PM
Just like Carl Marx, Noam Chomsky or Adam Shapiro it takes a Jew to be a top-shelf Jew-hater.
Title: Re: Is this true Jewish convert to catholic started ustashi
Post by: Husar on November 15, 2007, 01:08:05 PM
The same goes with some Serbs...

 ::)
Title: Re: Is this true Jewish convert to catholic started ustashi
Post by: SerbianChetnik2 on November 15, 2007, 03:04:43 PM
I didn't know the utashi were converts

The worst USTASHA/NAZICROATS
are the Serbian-Rooted ones.
They were peacefull Orthodox Christians,
but got converted to scatholicism,
little by little, or forcefully...

Of all Croats today, we may say without no doubt, that 80% are Serbian-Rooted, converted from Orthodox to Papists. There is no chance to find their roots in romancatholic churches elder then maaaaaximum about 300 years. Serbs weren’t destroying their churches like they were destroying ours so they can check.

Region of Dubrovnik Republic is exeption of above interval, because they were converted much more before 300 years, and it is interestingly that they were in the bigest part declared as romancatholic Serbs till few decades ago, and their participation in Ustasha movement was small.

Once scatholics, they HAD to
declare themselves as "croats".

This is thanks to Vatikan politics done directly over priests and done over governments of Venice Republic and especially Austro-Hungarian Empire. In time of Austro-Hungarian government if you were Balkan’s romancatholic then you HAD to be Croat, without matter of your real origin.

REAL Croats were almost disappeard before about 500 years ago. It was written that was remained “reliqiae reliqiarum Croatiae”, tr. pieces of pieces of Croatia. Real Croats were killed in wars of that time and died of hoooorrible pest epidemic. Rest were in the gratest part emigrated into Austria, and just a small part of them stay on Balkan, predominantly in region of Zagreb.

Croats from Austria were took part in 30 years lasting war, led by Austria against protestants, and done such terrible things, that they are memorised even today in that part of Germany.

Vatikan had resuscitate Croatian nation using converted Serbs. In the same time, they have been teaching that Serbs (Orthodox) are schismatics and barbarians. All liability for sea of Serbian blood on Balkan, belong to Vatikan who was bringing fanaticism.

Even thought there were Beautiful
and Patriotic Catholic Serbs,
like Mateja Ban (pronounce Mateya),
especially in the Dalmatian coast,
once scatholics, the Serbs began
to forget their Serbian Roots.

They were pushing to forget their Serbian Roots, but in region of today Dalmatia, Serbian Roots were or very strong or nature of conversion into Papism was different. There were also few Catholic Serbs from Dalmatia who took a part in Serbian Chetnik Units during WW2, and fighting against Ustashas, shoulder by shoulder with their Orthodox Serb brothers.

I guess it is the same case for the Jews
that converted to scatholicism,
they began to forget their Jewish Roots,
and became anti-semits.

JTFFan, you can't find worst haters,
than the converted ones...

Those had done genocide against Serbs and Jews. According to German, Italian and Ustashas records from the end of 1943, Ustashas were killed 750.000 of Serbs and tenths thousands of Jews and Gypsies.