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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: christians4jews on November 11, 2007, 06:53:15 PM
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Obviously this does not mean i should lessen my concerns against these ragheads, but I honestly do not think regardless, if even every army in the world went against israel, i still think god would protect them.
Does anyone else agree with this ideology...
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Jews have lost plenty. You have heard of the holocaust?
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Yes these things are optional but since we have very little teshuva[repentence] i think gog u magog armmagadon will happen ,i hope not
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Jews have lost plenty. You have heard of the holocaust?
There were several holocausts of Jews. See islamic history.
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Yes these things are optional but since we have very little teshuva[repentence] i think gog u magog armmagadon will happen ,i hope not
to the original question, it definitely is possible (G-d forbid). But then again truthfully everything is for the best, and even if their are tragedies in reality its for the best. Its said in oral tradition that the gentile kingdom will control Israel for 9 months (the time a women is in labor).
To Mord- thats not true, their is a lot of Tishuva being done everywhere around, I see in Queens and im sure the same in Israel, but I agree that their needs to be a lot more from everyone starting with our individual selves.
This is not to say that all hope is lost, but anything can happen and its all in G-d's hands, only what can be certain is that one will not loose out if s/he does Tishuva and follows G-d's ways.
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G-d will protect the Jews if they care to fight back. For the past five years or so, they have not cared to do so. Look at the pathetic Lebanon war last year. G-d saw that the Jews had absolutely no respect for themselves or the land he gave them, so he simply handed them over to Hezbollah.
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absolutely right
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This is how the Gog uMagog (referred to in Latin as Armaggedon) war will start, G-d forbid. However, although G-d will save Israel in the end, the war will be ugly and the Sages have said that they do not want to see it. Descriptions given in the Jewish Bible are even worse, lo alenu. G-d forbid this ever happens. We are taught that all "bad" prophecies are in fact optional, and that we have an opportunity to avert things like Gog uMagog.
but could it still be interpreted that Gog magog was the Shoah...or even the time the Romans sacked Jerusalem? how do those disaster compare to which the sages talk about?
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Jews have lost plenty. You have heard of the holocaust?
They have lost plenty, the holocaust was nothing compared to the Exodus... G-d killed 80% of the Israelites, but they're still alive and kicking O0. It's G-d's way of showing the world that He has the power, no matter how powerful evil people can be.