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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: Vito on November 12, 2007, 05:16:33 PM
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I'll need all the New York help I can get to do that though 8;)
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My suggestion is to go as a Republican as Takkiya...
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You can do it, Vito!
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My suggestion is to go as a Republican as Takkiya...
Hah.. it would be easier to get my name out, and I would only need 500 signatures, but the Reps would NEVER support me if I stick to my guns. There is no pressure if I run as an independent. I don't want voters to be skeptical of me, I want them to know exactly who I am and what I stand for rather than pull Takkiya and then show my true colors.
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You can do it, Vito!
Thanks Trumpeldor !
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Whats your current status.
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When can you start collecting sigs?
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Whats your current status.
Well the race hasn't even begun yet, it doesn't start till late spring.. but I'm still just trying to get my name out as much as possible in my area.
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When can you start collecting sigs?
I didn't get the calendar yet, but it's sometime in late spring.
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Well, all I can say is that you have here on the forum a couple of hundered votes. O0!
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Help with what, Vito?
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Help with what, Vito?
Collecting signatures and then getting people to vote.
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To even have a chance you'd best start fundraising and organizing supporters to do the legwork now
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Good on you Vito, and all the best. Even if you don't win, the fact you have tried and made the effort and promoted the Jewish people is much more than many could hope for.
As they say the squeaky door gets the most oil O0
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Maybe he meant you won't win if you list JTF as a reference. JTF would most likely endose you. But you shouldn't let anyone know if you want any remote chace at winning.
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I would CERTAINLY vote for you if i was in that area O0
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The political calendar comes out after Jan. 1 with the signature gathering dates. It is usually sometime from June to August. Yes, Vito is a long shot, does not mean he cannot win. As for hiding an endorsement by JTF, no. Any endorsements are either accepted or declined, not hidden. Besides, Vito and the Loyalist party are going to be labeled hate mongers, racists, islamophobes, blah, blah. Voting for Vito and the Loyalists will show that those we are trying to defeat are the real haters.
As for running as a Republican. The county party would never support him. They are just as cowardly as the Democrats. He would only need to collect 500 signatures as opposed to 1,500 as an independent but the republican party would do all in the power to have those signatures voided. They probably still will with Vito running as an independent but not as fiercely. If they do not put up any candidate, which they have not done a few times in this district, Vito's chances rise. Outside of Staten island this district is the most conservative in the city. The main reason the same Dem has held office for 7 terms is that the Republicans have never really put up a serious candidate.
Vito will be making his official announcement in Queens on Dec. 1. local press will be there. Anyone interested in attending please contact Vito as we need to limit attendance.
Help is mostly needed collecting signatures. You must live in Vito's district to collect signatures, sign the petition and of course vote for him. If you do not live in the district though you can still help. There will be campaign work that will need to be done, mundane stuff such as stuffing envelopes and mailing, getting up signs, helping set up meetings and speeches, etc. So, anyone who does not live in Vito's district but still wants to help can definetly do so.
Vito can win. If he does not win this time he will be much better known for next time. But he can win this time. I can see that Vito has JTF support but believe me, he will have many other groups support as he becomes more well known.
When you start seeing all the islamic groups, liberal groups, etc, start attacking Vito, that is when you know his chances will rise. Also, hint, hint, if Vito does not win, next year his city council district seat is wide open due to term limits, no powerful incumbents to deal with. Not to dream to high or disagree with Chaim,but if there is no republican in the race opposing the incumbent Democrat then Vito will win. If there is a Republican in the race it will be much tougher because those are votes that would have went to Vito, but it is not impossible.
I hate to even say it here, but our biggest obstacle, as is to all challengers, will be money. We will be working on that very very soon.
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Hey Vito.
Here is a rough draft of your webpage:
http://www.loyalistparty.com/vito.htm
Take a look when you can.
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actually...chaim said you were better off running as a republican also...even though it is a one party system in queens in which the demoncrats always win and a republican is rarely ever running. As a third party candidate, you have an even lesser of a chance. Best be a republican and be true to your opnions and views. That's what I meant by Takkiya..not lying and doing something else...
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i live in queens. how can i help vito?
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i live in queens. how can i help vito?
Great, are you in District 26? Maybe you can vote for me O0 If you're not, you can still help me with collecting signatures, handing out fliers, mailing envelopes.. things like that.
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actually...chaim said you were better off running as a republican also...even though it is a one party system in queens in which the demoncrats always win and a republican is rarely ever running. As a third party candidate, you have an even lesser of a chance. Best be a republican and be true to your opnions and views. That's what I meant by Takkiya..not lying and doing something else...
The republican party would never support me. They would do everything in their power to turn me down. They wouldn't even support John Spencer when he ran for senate, how in hell would they help me? Running as an independent I could say whatever I want without any pressure.
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Your a member of The John Birch Society?
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Your a member of The John Birch Society?
They're not anti-semitic anymore. I met with one of the spokesmen, he was very pro-Israel and was familiar with JTF.
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Your a member of The John Birch Society?
They're not anti-semitic anymore. I met with one of the spokesmen, he was very pro-Israel and was familiar with JTF.
Do you have video or a transcript of your Ground Zero speech?
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Why does Chaim say that You won't win?
How dare he?
How does he know?
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Your a member of The John Birch Society?
They're not anti-semitic anymore. I met with one of the spokesmen, he was very pro-Israel and was familiar with JTF.
Do you have video or a transcript of your Ground Zero speech?
No, not that I know of. I wasn't suppose to speak, it was just the heat of the moment and I asked permission to speak. There might be video of it, cameras were there, so it's possible.
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Why does Chaim say that You won't win?
How dare he?
How does he know?
He is saying that because the Republican Party has been dead-meat in Vito's district for a very long time. They are so corrupt and often let the Democrat run uncontested. What he's saying is that it will take a very long time to sort that mess out, but it is better for Vito's political career long-term that he straighten it out...
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Why does Chaim say that You won't win?
How dare he?
How does he know?
Because I'm am ultra conservative running in NYC. But I have a good chance believe it or not - I live in one of the most conservative districts in NYC, tons of war veterans.. so there is a good chance.
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I don't know if any videos exist of Vito's speech at Ground Zero, possibly could. Anyway, I was there. Some muslim apologist was allowed to speak and spewed the usual taqiyya islam is peaceful crap. Vito, on the spur of the moment asked if he could speak. The good people from the UAC let him. He spoke about things that no other speaker there really did. he made no apologies. He laid out actual events throughout the world that were caused directly by islam. He gave actual verses from the quran to back up what he was saying. During his speech the muslim speaker, who was now in the crowd, was actually yelling at Vito that he was the real terrorist, before he slithered away. When the event moderator was telling Vito his time was running out(it actually was, legal permits time) the crowd was actually chanting to let him speak. The muslim seemed to be(remember, seemed to be, more taqiyya) friendly with most of the speakers but was yelling at Vito that he was the real terrorist. This should give you some idea of the type of speech he gave. More remarkable than the speech was an unprepared spur of the moment was that Vito informed me that it was his first public speech. You will be hearing more from and more about Vito soon, guaranteed.
I understand the point some are making here about Vito running as a Republican but it will never happen. If you do not tow the county party line and kiss the right behinds of the leadership you can forget any support. Plus, with Vito's and the Loyalist Party stance on islam they would never touch him. I have in the past been very involved with the county Republican and Conservative parties and guaranteed they would not only support Vito but would do all they could to stop him from gaining any power in thier parties. Yes, independents and/or third parties make things that much more difficult but a big tide of change is coming as people are getting more disgusted with the two main parties.