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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: christians4jews on November 26, 2007, 07:19:59 PM
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I personally treat them like second class apes. I will never hold a door for one, never get up for an elderly muslim on a crammed bus or train so that they can have a seat.
am i evil in thinking this???I have jewish blood in my family(unfortunately self hating jews) and i think i would be traitorous to give these evil satanic creatures respect.
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If you truly know that a person hates the Jews and denies their rights, or just know any other evil the person does continuously, you have no obligation to respect him. The Shulchan Aruch says "Even a pagan old man must be respected, EXCEPT IF HE IS AN EVILDOER.
However I think you cannot assume he is evil just for calling himself a Muslim. Anyway how do you recognise a Muslim un the street?
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In england they where mohammed beard and clothes, and the hijab and burka are very present, so through that its pretty obvious they are evil peado worshippers.
I pray to G-d, that israel take action against iran
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No I wouldn't go out of my way too. But if the pasted the same time as me not a lot I could do. Like if the fell in the street I would easily just walk around them with out assisting.
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Wouldn't it be better to be their friend so they'll think twice about blowing themselves up in front of you?
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Wouldn't it be better to be their friend so they'll think twice about blowing themselves up in front of you?
They blow themselves and their family up, whats a non related person to them.
Friends with Mullahs?
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I try to stay away from such filth.
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Wouldn't it be better to be their friend so they'll think twice about blowing themselves up in front of you?
The blast in pakistan that was meant to kill bhutto, was done by a "father" who strapped a bomb to his one year old child......and "friends" would matter to these subhumans?
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If you truly know that a person hates the Jews and denies their rights, or just know any other evil the person does continuously, you have no obligation to respect him. The Shulchan Aruch says "Even a pagan old man must be respected, EXCEPT IF HE IS AN EVILDOER.
However I think you cannot assume he is evil just for calling himself a Muslim. Anyway how do you recognise a Muslim un the street?
Wrong!
There is a Talmudic law that states if the majority of a group or nation are enemies of Jews (muSSlims for example), then one MUST assume any member of that group is an enemy also. The onus is on them to prove otherwise.
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Wouldn't holding the door for them be like holding the door for your executioner? Do we really know what is under their turbans and in their dresses, and worse their suitcases?
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How about holding the door closed if they were on the other side of it ;) doesnt that count
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Does holding the door open while placing the muSSlim beast's head on the door jamb prior to slamming it count?
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If you truly know that a person hates the Jews and denies their rights, or just know any other evil the person does continuously, you have no obligation to respect him. The Shulchan Aruch says "Even a pagan old man must be respected, EXCEPT IF HE IS AN EVILDOER.
However I think you cannot assume he is evil just for calling himself a Muslim. Anyway how do you recognise a Muslim un the street?
Wrong!
There is a Talmudic law that states if the majority of a group or nation are enemies of Jews (muSSlims for example), then one MUST assume any member of that group is an enemy also. The onus is on them to prove otherwise.
Then I have done very well in declaring my home independent from Argentina. Otherwise it must be asummed that I also deny Jewish rights on EY!!!
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I'm usually very good about holding the door for nearly everyone who is behind me, but if I saw a smelly, dirty sand ape walking behind me, or a burka jerk-a, my good nature would have to give way.
I usually make exceptions for Muslims when it comes to my good nature. O0
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If you truly know that a person hates the Jews and denies their rights, or just know any other evil the person does continuously, you have no obligation to respect him. The Shulchan Aruch says "Even a pagan old man must be respected, EXCEPT IF HE IS AN EVILDOER.
However I think you cannot assume he is evil just for calling himself a Muslim. Anyway how do you recognise a Muslim un the street?
Wrong!
There is a Talmudic law that states if the majority of a group or nation are enemies of Jews (muSSlims for example), then one MUST assume any member of that group is an enemy also. The onus is on them to prove otherwise.
Then I have done very well in declaring my home independent from Argentina. Otherwise it must be asummed that I also deny Jewish rights on EY!!!
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Your last name is Lavin!?
That's just another version of Levin, like Levine,
You must have some Jewish ancestry on your father's side.
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Yes, my surname is Lavin. My father's ancestor are from the Basque country. My parents divoreced when I was 1 and my farher remarried immediately. I met my sisterd and brothers when I was older, my oldest sister converted to Conservative Judaism and her Rav told her that Lavin has a Jewish origin. But it must be form 500 years ago when Jews fled to the Pirineos escaping Inquisition. Too far away!!!!
I tried to trace my matrilineal Italian family with no success. My maternal greatgrandmother who came from the Italian province of Bassilicata was said to bake unleavened bread during the Catholic Holy Friday.... Perhaps she interacted with Jews... perhaps she had some Jewish blood.... never know.
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Yes, my surname is Lavin. My father's ancestor are from the Basque country. My parents divoreced when I was 1 and my farher remarried immediately. I met my sisterd and brothers when I was older, my oldest sister converted to Conservative Judaism and her Rav told her that Lavin has a Jewish origin. But it must be form 500 years ago when Jews fled to the Pirineos escaping Inquisition. Too far away!!!!
I tried to trace my matrilineal Italian family with no success. My maternal greatgrandmother who came from the Italian province of Bassilicata was said to bake unleavened bread during the Catholic Holy Friday.... Perhaps she interacted with Jews... perhaps she had some Jewish blood.... never know.
Well Raul, I'm sorry to hear about that, but it seems like you've turned out well. I don't know how you came to the conclusion that you have Jewish lineage from 500 years ago, especially since you don't know your father, it seems like the connection could be much more direct than that. Who knows, your great grandmother could have been a crypto-Jew!
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I'd treat a Muslim like a Dog. Go Fetch Allah
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Yes, my surname is Lavin. My father's ancestor are from the Basque country. My parents divoreced when I was 1 and my farher remarried immediately. I met my sisterd and brothers when I was older, my oldest sister converted to Conservative Judaism and her Rav told her that Lavin has a Jewish origin. But it must be form 500 years ago when Jews fled to the Pirineos escaping Inquisition. Too far away!!!!
I tried to trace my matrilineal Italian family with no success. My maternal greatgrandmother who came from the Italian province of Bassilicata was said to bake unleavened bread during the Catholic Holy Friday.... Perhaps she interacted with Jews... perhaps she had some Jewish blood.... never know.
Well Raul, I'm sorry to hear about that, but it seems like you've turned out well. I don't know how you came to the conclusion that you have Jewish lineage from 500 years ago, especially since you don't know your father, it seems like the connection could be much more direct than that. Who knows, your great grandmother could have been a crypto-Jew!
Even though I don't know my father well, I have searched his ancestors. They were all Catholic. And there are a lot of families here with the same surname who are Catholic from long generations. So it is nearly impossible to think about a close connection. If the Conservative Rav is right about a Leviite origin, it's from a long time. Others say it comes from French Lavigne which means "the vine".
Regarding my great grandmother I have tried long to search but it was impossible to get any information. I only know that among her familly there was a saying " there are as much lands as seas, there's as much good as evil in the world" They said it in Italian, when I was a child my mother translated that for me. I tried to search the origin of that saying but found it nowhere.
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Yes, my surname is Lavin. My father's ancestor are from the Basque country. My parents divoreced when I was 1 and my farher remarried immediately. I met my sisterd and brothers when I was older, my oldest sister converted to Conservative Judaism and her Rav told her that Lavin has a Jewish origin. But it must be form 500 years ago when Jews fled to the Pirineos escaping Inquisition. Too far away!!!!
I tried to trace my matrilineal Italian family with no success. My maternal greatgrandmother who came from the Italian province of Bassilicata was said to bake unleavened bread during the Catholic Holy Friday.... Perhaps she interacted with Jews... perhaps she had some Jewish blood.... never know.
I am sorry Raul but it was the culture only to keep oral records in Italy for many reasons. Its near impossible to trace Jewish lines there. And Many chose not to even record births deaths and marriages.
You can still find people that know the history. You need to old villagers they always are the record keepers, Strega can trace back 1000's of years.
But few remain now, the young don't see the need anymore.
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My boss and his brother which is my coworker also are pretty cool people to be around
they are from Jordan and they are muslims but they are not extreemly devout muslims straight out of the koran
do you get what i mean?
basically they are muslim but not embedded with all the outlooks from the koran
they are pretty nice people to be around
just dont mention religion or politics too much
but he doent care for jews i know that for a fact
and they make better gyros then most greeks do lol
And yes i would hold the door open for them
actually i did it today
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First of all you should at least have common curtesy for anyone
thats part of being a high class citizen
and showing kindness to anyone is the right thing to do
Christ said you should love your enemies just like your friends
When the lord comes back i dont think he is going to spit on a muslim he will be kind to everyone
G-d wants us to be kind in a way more like him
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First of all you should at least have common curtesy for anyone
thats part of being a high class citizen
and showing kindness to anyone is the right thing to do
Christ said you should love your enemies just like your friends
If the lord comes back i dont think he is going to spit on a muslim he will be kind to everyone
G-d wants us to be kind in a way more like him
Not so.
Torah requires ALL of us to HATE evil people and destroy them.
The real Messiah will butcher the enemies of Israel 19 to the dozen, not bless them, love them or anything of the kind.
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The jews are still waiting for the messai
and i dont follow the Torah
I know who the messai is
and on his 2nd time back the jews,muslims,and the rest will witness and know who he is
Jesus Christ will come back for his people the jews and the rest that will believe
And he will be coming back very soon
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Yes newman the ones that still wont believe after they see will suffer horribly for eternity!!!
In that sence you are right newman O0
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The jews are still waiting for the messai
and i dont follow the Torah
I know who the messai is
and on his 2nd time back the jews,muslims,and the rest will witness and know who he is
Jesus Christ will come back for his people the jews and the rest that will believe
And he will be coming back very soon
It's a theological impossibility to believe in the NT and NOT believe in Torah (Old Test). The NT relies on Torah for it's legitimacy. Not one single christian church ANYWHERE doesn't believe in Torah.
In Torah there is NO second comming. Messiach comes ONCE and does EVERYTHING he's supposed to do.
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First of all you should at least have common curtesy for anyone
thats part of being a high class citizen
and showing kindness to anyone is the right thing to do
Christ said you should love your enemies just like your friends
When the lord comes back i dont think he is going to spit on a muslim he will be kind to everyone
G-d wants us to be kind in a way more like him
I agree with Newman on this one. Perhaps I would not follow that Talmudic rule of assuming someone is evil for just belonging to an enemy group, but I certianly would NOT love someone I really know wants to kill Jews or harm me. NEVER.
If some evildoer really repents perhaps I'll pardon him (providing he just harmed only me, I have no right to pardon on behalf of others), but never love him while he's still my enemy.
In 1992 I was dissapointed at the Madrid Conference for it was making peace with enemies and everyone said "Peace can be only made with an enemy, you cannot make peace with a friend since you are not at war with him". I didn't know what to answer. A Jew gave the reply on a radio program "Peace must be made with the enemy if, by that peace, he is no longer an enemy"
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I said i didnt follow the Torah
i didnt say believe
but the NT isnt the the torah
But i wont argue about god coming once and not a second time
because i know when he comes the second time i wont have to have the same discussion again
Because the point would have already been proven
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"Christ said you should love your enemies just like your friends"
I'm Jewish, and I don't care what Christ said.
Means absolutely nothing to me.
In fact, in this case, I'm going to do exactly the opposite of what Christ recommends.
I have only one type of love for my enemies--the love of wiping them out.
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I am talking about just a stranger
i am not talking about someone that came and threatened you
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"Christ said you should love your enemies just like your friends"
I'm Jewish, and I don't care what Christ said.
Means absolutely nothing to me.
In fact, in this case, I'm going to do exactly the opposite of what Christ recommends.
I have only one type of love for my enemies--the love of wiping them out.
Which happens to be REAL scripture. If we all 'loved' & 'blessed' our enemies, the nazis & japs would have stomped us in 2 weeks!
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You are right in that sence
i will admit that
But when someone actually does something to you
then you have the right to stand up and stand your ground
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Or if you know what they want to do yes
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The jews are still waiting for the messai
and i dont follow the Torah
I know who the messai is
and on his 2nd time back the jews,muslims,and the rest will witness and know who he is
Jesus Christ will come back for his people the jews and the rest that will believe
And he will be coming back very soon
Yes newman the ones that still wont believe after they see will suffer horribly for eternity!!!
In that sence you are right newman
These two posts are really annoying and objectionable. They are pure missionizing, and anti-Semite threats. You are in danger of a BANNING.
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Thats my personal belief
everyone else can believe what they want
I love the jewish people so i doubt i am deserving of that comment
And Raul you are a little troll so you have no room to talk!!!
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I'd treat a Muslim like a Dog. Go Fetch Allah
Same here. Muslims treat everything like dogs. :::D
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You are right in that sence
i will admit that
But when someone actually does something to you
then you have the right to stand up and stand your ground
Wrong according to NT.
NOWHERE in the NT do you have the right to self defense. You must "turn the other cheek" and cop a beating. That's why quakers won't fight.
I challenge you to find a passage in the NT giving you the right or obligation of self-defense.
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The jews are still waiting for the messai
and i dont follow the Torah
I know who the messai is
and on his 2nd time back the jews,muslims,and the rest will witness and know who he is
Jesus Christ will come back for his people the jews and the rest that will believe
And he will be coming back very soon
Yes newman the ones that still wont believe after they see will suffer horribly for eternity!!!
In that sence you are right newman
These two posts are really annoying and objectionable. They are pure missionizing, and anti-Semite threats. You are in danger of a BANNING.
How is this possible? A Christian comes to say that anyone who doesn't belive in Jesus will suffer in eternity, and he's tolerated!!!!! I just said, I myself believe in Gerizim and many got angry!!!!
You, Newman, warned a Christian who was rebutting the Koran, not to use Christian scripture here, and now do nothing against Iron? He has just said that those who don't accept Christ will suffer for ever!!!!! I was confused about Christians, but now I am beggining to accept that many are as evil as Arab Jew-haters!!!!!!!
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Well Raul you are a troll thats the difference
I am not
And you had a whole subject made about how much they dislike you
So trolls will be treated like trolls!!!!!!
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"Christ said you should love your enemies just like your friends"
"I love the jewish people"
And you wonder why Jews are wary of Christian 'love'.
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Before a few days, a young muslime woman with a hijab, smiled at me in a supermarket. I think she liked me. I was like ice and after I leaved the supermarket, I was frightend about myself. I am normally to everyone polite, even if I don't like somebody.
If I see a Hijab, I feel only hate. ???
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Before a few days, a young muslime woman with a hijab, smiled at me in a supermarket. I think she liked me. I was like ice and after I leaved the supermarket, I was frightend about myself. I am normally to everyone polite, even if I don't like somebody.
If I see a Hijab, I feel only hate. ???
Same for me.
I see those things and I just want to grab a knife and do a Jason Vorhees routine!
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Golden Pheasant you could always F--k her and yeah
have the fun brother and leave
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Cause once she takes off the headscarf and the robe she may be a great peice of asss O0
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The jews are still waiting for the messai
and i dont follow the Torah
I know who the messai is
and on his 2nd time back the jews,muslims,and the rest will witness and know who he is
Jesus Christ will come back for his people the jews and the rest that will believe
And he will be coming back very soon
Yes newman the ones that still wont believe after they see will suffer horribly for eternity!!!
In that sence you are right newman
These two posts are really annoying and objectionable. They are pure missionizing, and anti-Semite threats. You are in danger of a BANNING.
How is this possible? A Christian comes to say that anyone who doesn't belive in Jesus will suffer in eternity, and he's tolerated!!!!! I just said, I myself believe in Gerizim and many got angry!!!!
You, Newman, warned a Christian who was rebutting the Koran, not to use Christian scripture here, and now do nothing against Iron? He has just said that those who don't accept Christ will suffer for ever!!!!! I was confused about Christians, but now I am beggining to accept that many are as evil as Arab Jew-haters!!!!!!!
It amazes me to Raul.
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Before a few days, a young muslime woman with a hijab, smiled at me in a supermarket. I think she liked me. I was like ice and after I leaved the supermarket, I was frightend about myself. I am normally to everyone polite, even if I don't like somebody.
If I see a Hijab, I feel only hate. ???
Its only natural to feel that, afterall they are the ones that wish to remove us completely from this earth. And if you hear it ticking I suggest you run.
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The jews are still waiting for the messai
and i dont follow the Torah
I know who the messai is
and on his 2nd time back the jews,muslims,and the rest will witness and know who he is
Jesus Christ will come back for his people the jews and the rest that will believe
And he will be coming back very soon
Yes newman the ones that still wont believe after they see will suffer horribly for eternity!!!
In that sence you are right newman
These two posts are really annoying and objectionable. They are pure missionizing, and anti-Semite threats. You are in danger of a BANNING.
How is this possible? A Christian comes to say that anyone who doesn't belive in Jesus will suffer in eternity, and he's tolerated!!!!! I just said, I myself believe in Gerizim and many got angry!!!!
You, Newman, warned a Christian who was rebutting the Koran, not to use Christian scripture here, and now do nothing against Iron? He has just said that those who don't accept Christ will suffer for ever!!!!! I was confused about Christians, but now I am beggining to accept that many are as evil as Arab Jew-haters!!!!!!!
Reread this thread you Argie twit!
I just bagged Iron's posts AND the NT!!!!!!
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Its cool its what i believe and i am not making anyone believe it
Everyone can believe what they want
I believe what i want you believe what you want!
And its settled
I dont want a big uprising about my own belief
lets just keep calm
thats why i didnt reply to your question about the NT earlier because i didnt want to get in a big discussion about religion
And its done
I dont need little wimps getting butthurt
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The jews are still waiting for the messai
and i dont follow the Torah
I know who the messai is
and on his 2nd time back the jews,muslims,and the rest will witness and know who he is
Jesus Christ will come back for his people the jews and the rest that will believe
And he will be coming back very soon
Yes newman the ones that still wont believe after they see will suffer horribly for eternity!!!
In that sence you are right newman
These two posts are really annoying and objectionable. They are pure missionizing, and anti-Semite threats. You are in danger of a BANNING.
How is this possible? A Christian comes to say that anyone who doesn't belive in Jesus will suffer in eternity, and he's tolerated!!!!! I just said, I myself believe in Gerizim and many got angry!!!!
You, Newman, warned a Christian who was rebutting the Koran, not to use Christian scripture here, and now do nothing against Iron? He has just said that those who don't accept Christ will suffer for ever!!!!! I was confused about Christians, but now I am beggining to accept that many are as evil as Arab Jew-haters!!!!!!!
Hello Raul,
you blame the teachings of all major christian groups. I personally know no christian confession, which is teaching, that there is no need to accept Jesus as savior.
Some modern left theologicans say that Jesus died for all people. This is called "universal reconciliation". But I think this has no basis in the "New Testament".
In my personal opinion are there two stronger points for the continuity of God's covenant with his people.
A. God said, that this covenant is eternal.
B. History proves it. There is no nation, that passed over 30 centuries and is still existing.
But if you say, that Christians today are as evil as the Muslime Arabs, you have lost your sense of reality.
There is today no missionary, that comes to you with a weapon and tells you: Death or Christianity. The most radical Christians, which are trying to evangelize Jews, like Watchtower Society and other morons are pacifists. You can tell them simply to leave. Try this with a real Muslime. ???
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The jews are still waiting for the messai
and i dont follow the Torah
I know who the messai is
and on his 2nd time back the jews,muslims,and the rest will witness and know who he is
Jesus Christ will come back for his people the jews and the rest that will believe
And he will be coming back very soon
Yes newman the ones that still wont believe after they see will suffer horribly for eternity!!!
In that sence you are right newman
These two posts are really annoying and objectionable. They are pure missionizing, and anti-Semite threats. You are in danger of a BANNING.
How is this possible? A Christian comes to say that anyone who doesn't belive in Jesus will suffer in eternity, and he's tolerated!!!!! I just said, I myself believe in Gerizim and many got angry!!!!
You, Newman, warned a Christian who was rebutting the Koran, not to use Christian scripture here, and now do nothing against Iron? He has just said that those who don't accept Christ will suffer for ever!!!!! I was confused about Christians, but now I am beggining to accept that many are as evil as Arab Jew-haters!!!!!!!
Reread this thread you Argie twit!
I just bagged Iron's posts AND the NT!!!!!!
Argie twit? I thought insults were forbidden here. And missionising was forbidden and banned, not just rebutted.
According to Iron, Jews should abandon Torah, convert to Cristianity and be no more a People, but join a Church, or suffer for ever. Really ugly!!!!
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Pheasant brother its ok
Raul is just a mere TROLL
Golden you know how the Trolls work
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You little Trollhorn Raul i did not say the slightest thing about converting
i didnt even mention that
i mentioned something that i believed and i did not continue the discussion for much longer i put it to an end because i respect this forum
And yes Raul itsulting another person in here is forbidden
but insulting a TROLL is acceptable
Because trolls arent people!!!
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Some Christians and other religions are just more clever than Muslims. Muslims care to kill a Jewish body. Missionaries will not come with a weapon and say "Covert or i'll kill you". They just know that the Jew will say Shema Yisrael and accept to be killed, and they will never catch his soul. So they prefer this words like Iron's "If you don't convert G-d will take you to hell". And some weak and ignorant Jews with a poor knowledge of Torah, sometimes will leave Judaism! That's their tactic! Fundamentalist Muslims want to conquer phisical world, fundamentalist Christians are more intrested in Jewish SOULS, not land
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You are saying that the jews that come to christianity are ignorant
you are clearly degrading christianity
you stop your trash talk you little Troll!
i never trash talked and said anyone that doenst convert to christianity is ignorant
i said nothing of the such
you offended i didnt
you name called i didnt
you are a troll i am not
you degraded christianity i didnt degrade judaism
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Isn't it degrading Judaism, to have said that the Jewish hope for the Moshiach is false? Chaim will have to judge, I will no longer argue.
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I have my belief the rest of you have your own
The End
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It would have been ok if you had just said that you love your enemies since yout faith tells you to do so. But you needn't say that Christ will come and Jews will have to believe in him. You needn't say that those who won't believe will suffer eternally!!!! Don't reply to me, let Chaim read and judge. I have called him to read the whole thread.
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Ok Raul i didnt even read your whole last post
like you said just stop arguing
and shut the H-LL up!!!!!!
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You are saying that the jews that come to christianity are ignorant
you are clearly degrading christianityyou stop your trash talk you little Troll!
i never trash talked and said anyone that doenst convert to christianity is ignorant
i said nothing of the such
you offended i didnt
you name called i didnt
you are a troll i am not
you degraded christianity i didnt degrade judaism
A Jew who goes into Christianity or ANY other religion (or becomes non-observant) is obviously ignorant and has had the disgrace of not having a proper Jewish education. That's why he's unaware of his own Neshama (Jewish soul) and is lead ashtray. A Jewish soul would never abandon Torah wittingly, if he really knows Judaism.
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Ok raul fine fine!!!
So do you think a muslim that goes into Christianity or Judaism is non observant and had the disgrace of not having a proper Islamic education!!!!!!!!!!Therefore becomes unaware of the Koran and is lead astray. So therefore you would consider that person ignorant as well!THIS HOW YOU THINK!!!!!!!
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Ok raul fine fine!!!
So do you think a muslim that goes into Christianity or Judaism is non observant and had the disgrace of not having a proper Islamic education!!!!!!!!!!Therefore becomes unaware of the Koran and is lead astray. So therefore you would consider that person ignorant as well!THIS HOW YOU THINK!!!!!!!
Only a Jew who abandons his Torah is ignorant and had a poor education, since a Jewish soul would never wittingly abandon Torah. A Gentile has no Jewish soul and can decide what religion to follow freely. A Gentile will lose nothing by changing beliefs. A Jew has a Neshama and would never leave Torah if he knew how much his souls cries inside him for not having mitzvot.
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So raul what makes a jewish soul have the ability to talk to the brain
And why cant gentiles souls talk to their brains just like the jewish souls can
And whats the difference between a jew abandoning his torah and a christian abandoning his bible
And Raul i have never seen a soul cry before do you have a picture
And Raul have you talked personally with a soul that happened to be jewish
So basically if i a jew wanted to leave their religion their soul would punch their brain and keep them from doing that because there soul is jewish and therfore has super powers. Raul this has to be what you mean?
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So raul what makes a jewish soul have the ability to talk to the brain
And why cant gentiles souls talk to their brains just like the jewish souls can
And whats the difference between a jew abandoning his torah and a christian abandoning his bible
And Raul i have never seen a soul cry before do you have a picture
And Raul have you talked personally with a soul that happened to be jewish
So basically if i a jew wanted to leave there religion the soul would punch the brain and keep him from doing that Raul
A Gentile comes from Adan and Noah. As far as he is not wicked his soul will not cry. A Jew, even when he also comes from Adam and Noah, received a new soul at Mt Sinai, and Jews today receive the same soul by being born by a Jewess. That soul suffers when the Jew desecrates Shabat, eats non-kosher, and even more when he abandons Torah. But if the Jew had no proper education, he may not realise about his immer suffering for leaving his Torah. I have seen many Jews who were just little or non observant, not so much as to reject Torah for another book, and when I taught the Shema Yisrael to them they were moved deeply. Even someones who doesn't know he is Jewish is sensible to the words of the Shema
Judaism is not just a belief, it's the essence of a Jew. That's the difference between Judaism and religions
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Raul thats real cute but you still havent said how a jews soul has superpowers
And i know a jew that has never ever felt innersuffering like yhou described
Ok you have magical powers because your a jew
i get what your saying
but a jew can just as easily leave there religion just like anyone else can
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And Raul i have never seen a soul cry before do you have a picture
Have you never seen someone grieving over a loved one. I would think the closest thing to a souls crying, is a parent after the death of their child or a childs own tears.
(http://life2gether.files.wordpress.com/2007/03/istock_000000357240small_child_crying_11.jpg)
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I am not talking about a person crying
i am talking about a soul like the soul physically like raul is making it out to be
like what souls look like
how tall are they
like that
not a person greiving
a living walking talking soul like that lol
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Raul thats real cute but you still havent said how a jews soul has superpowers
And i know a jew that has never ever felt innersuffering like yhou described
Ok you have magical powers because your a jew
i get what your saying
but a jew can just as easily leave there religion just like anyone else can
A Jewish soul has in fact "superpowers" to cling to Torah. And a Gentile soul has also "superpowers" to cling to the good. If you murder you will feel remorse, no matter if you join a pagan religion which allows murder. Ancient Canaanites sacrificed thier children to the Demons, they didn't believe it was wrong, but surely they sufffered without knowing the reason.
A Jew may feel sad for not following Torah, but he may not know the cause of his ache. I'm not a Jew, but knew many Jews when I aimed to convert, and many others by chance in the streets. I once met a non-observant Catholic boy and made friends. He told me that his grandmother was a Jew. When he was at the hairdresers' I recited the Shema Yisrael. He was very moved, but I noticed that a woman who didn't even knew what I was saying was also moved. She had also Jewish ancestors!!!!
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I am not talking about a person crying
i am talking about a soul like the soul physically like raul is making it out to be
like what souls look like
how tall are they
like that
not a person greiving
a living walking talking soul like that lol
A soul is a physical being its apart of us, just because there is no picture of it does not mean it does not exist. The pic was of pure emotion of that child, its soul. That how things are presented in this world through basic emotion, feeling and empathy all apart of the function of our soul.
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The Nazis, Ymach Shemam, once when destroying a sinagogue made a cruel but interesting experiment. They wanted to know if Judaism was a culture or something the Jews had in their blood. So they picked an atheist Jew, who was also a gagnster and criminal who hated the Jews and their Torah. They took him to the sinagogue, opened the Holy Ark, took the Sefer Torah and put it in front of him, pointed a pistol at his head and ordered him to spit on it. When he saw the Torah, he said " I have done many things in my life, this one I shall not do, better kill me"
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Wow raul for once you turned a tread into something beautiful (heart warming stories) :)
tell us some stories raul!!! ;)
It looks like he trolled out some good for once
:D
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The Nazis, Ymach Shemam, once when destroying a sinagogue made a cruel but interesting experiment. They wanted to know if Judaism was a culture or something the Jews had in their blood. So they picked an atheist Jew, who was also a gagnster and criminal who hated the Jews and their Torah. They took him to the sinagogue, opened the Holy Ark, took the Sefer Torah and put it in front of him, pointed a pistol at his head and ordered him to spit on it. When he saw the Torah, he said " I have done many things in my life, this one I shall not do, better kill me"
Try that with chomsky or shapiro and they'd spit on it in two seconds.
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Has anyone tried walking in the opposite direction to pedo Mullahs?
The sheer disrespect. Firstly, they will try and walk through you, because YOU are supposed to move for them. I was pushed, elbowed, and what not by some psycho mullahs so many time, who decided that the whole street belongs to them.
There is no need for me to move because I am a woman. We both make an effort to avoid bumping into each other. Because I am a woman, that makes it all that worse and Mullahs will NOT move for you to pass. They would rather knock you down on the floor and walk pass you than move one inch on the side.
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Has anyone tried walking in the opposite direction to pedo Mullahs?
The sheer disrespect. Firstly, they will try and walk through you, because YOU are supposed to move for them. I was pushed, elbowed, and what not by some psycho mullahs so many time, who decided that the whole street belongs to them.
There is no need for me to move because I am a woman. We both make an effort to avoid bumping into each other. Because I am a woman, that makes it all that worse and Mullahs will NOT move for you to pass. They would rather knock you down on the floor and walk pass you than move one inch on the side.
I'd like to try that.
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And noy only a Jewish sould suffers when the Jew abandons Torah. Even yourself, even though you will not suffer for the lack of Judsim if you are not a Jew, you can hear the cries of your own Gentile Soul, for the Jews who abndoned Torah if you just wanted.
Once I visited some Gentile neighbours and I found a book on the floor. I picked it up and read it. It was about how to make superstitious amulets using Hebrew script and Hashem's Name with some Torah words. I placed it on a table and told them not treat it direspectffully since it had the Name printed on it.( And to never try to make such amulets). But I read a sentence in Spanish which said " If you find it difficult to write these words in Hebrew, here is the transliteration to Spanish". That words stuck in my mind and I felt a strange sadness. I didn't know why. Then I realised I was just crying for those Jews who also can't read the Torah in Hebrew, for those who may even be unable to understand it in Spanish!
If you heard you soul's voice, you'd never wish a Jew to abandon Torah. You'd never say they should or will believe in something else!
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The Nazis, Ymach Shemam, once when destroying a sinagogue made a cruel but interesting experiment. They wanted to know if Judaism was a culture or something the Jews had in their blood. So they picked an atheist Jew, who was also a gagnster and criminal who hated the Jews and their Torah. They took him to the sinagogue, opened the Holy Ark, took the Sefer Torah and put it in front of him, pointed a pistol at his head and ordered him to spit on it. When he saw the Torah, he said " I have done many things in my life, this one I shall not do, better kill me"
Try that with chomsky or shapiro and they'd spit on it in two seconds.
Who are Shomky and Shapiro? I once heard of a Shapiro who helped Nazis for extra days of life and was later killed anyway.
I wouldn't try that Nazi experiment, Chas Veshalom, but I guess any Jew confronting with the situation of having to abandon Torah openly, would awake and become religious.
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I personally treat them like second class apes. I will never hold a door for one, never get up for an elderly muslim on a crammed bus or train so that they can have a seat.
am i evil in thinking this???I have jewish blood in my family(unfortunately self hating jews) and i think i would be traitorous to give these evil satanic creatures respect.
I hate muslims with a passion but I still hold the door and I act politley as I would with anyone else. The difference is that if I wouldn't go out of my way to help them. You have got to be classy and show manners at all times. Now if a Muslim caught himself on fire I would help extinguish it by splashing him with a bucket of gasoline. ::)
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I see no reason not to be pollite in any circumstances, and I don't hate muslims anyway.
I hate what they believe, I hate the religion, but as people, I feel sorry for them really, they've been born into this vicious evil cultue, they didn't choose to become muslims, they were made into them by ther parents.
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Them kind of people would be lynched here, no worries.
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I hate what they believe, I hate the religion, but as people, I feel sorry for them really, they've been born into this vicious evil cultue, they didn't choose to become muslims, they were made into them by ther parents.
They can denounce Islam if they wanted. Just look at Nona Darwish. Religion is a choice.
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I hate what they believe, I hate the religion, but as people, I feel sorry for them really, they've been born into this vicious evil cultue, they didn't choose to become muslims, they were made into them by ther parents.
They can denounce Islam if they wanted. Just look at Nona Darwish. Religion is a choice.
Not if you know someone will kill you if you change.
Also, not if you have been brainwashed.
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Not if you know someone will kill you if you change.
Also, not if you have been brainwashed
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Again....I use Nona Darwish as an example. She was both brainwashed and she has a price in her head. Muslims that live under Islamic dictatorship are obviously not in the same position but what about Muslims that live in the UK and Europe? They have a choice and they still want to destroy the democracies that have given them freedom.
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Not if you know someone will kill you if you change.
Also, not if you have been brainwashed
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Again....I use Nona Darwish as an example. She was both brainwashed and she has a price in her head. Muslims that live under Islamic dictatorship are obviously not in the same position but what about Muslims that live in the UK and Europe? They have a choice and they still want to destroy the democracies that have given them freedom.
Muslims who leave islam in western countries are more or less safe...at least from the govt, not saying their nutcase relatives may not hunt them down, but mostly they leave without incident.....in an islamic country it would be MUCH more dangerous....BUT there is always that choice.
Ayaan Hirsi Ali is another example, she travels with very heavily armed guards no matter where she goes, the note that was stabbed into Theo van Gogh mentioned her by name and promised her demise as well.
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Not if you know someone will kill you if you change.
Also, not if you have been brainwashed
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Again....I use Nona Darwish as an example. She was both brainwashed and she has a price in her head. Muslims that live under Islamic dictatorship are obviously not in the same position but what about Muslims that live in the UK and Europe? They have a choice and they still want to destroy the democracies that have given them freedom.
Muslims who leave islam in western countries are more or less safe...at least from the govt, not saying their nutcase relatives may not hunt them down, but mostly they leave without incident.....in an islamic country it would be MUCH more dangerous....BUT there is always that choice.
Ayaan Hirsi Ali is another example, she travels with very heavily armed guards no matter where she goes, the note that was stabbed into Theo van Gogh mentioned her by name and promised her demise as well.
To have the choice they need to be educated.
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this muslim girl from pakistan i jokes on her and islam everyone called me mean and racist and what the hell is wrong with you. So no., when i see them in the street i give them ugly looks and such.
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this muslim girl from pakistan i jokes on her and islam everyone called me mean and racist and what the hell is wrong with you. So no., when i see them in the street i give them ugly looks and such.
Why ??? That is just chilidish. Just smile and hope they get run over by a bus ;)
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this muslim girl from pakistan i jokes on her and islam everyone called me mean and racist and what the hell is wrong with you. So no., when i see them in the street i give them ugly looks and such.
Why ??? That is just chilidish. Just smile and hope they get run over by a bus ;)
Or push them under it O0
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this muslim girl from pakistan i jokes on her and islam everyone called me mean and racist and what the hell is wrong with you. So no., when i see them in the street i give them ugly looks and such.
Why ??? That is just chilidish. Just smile and hope they get run over by a bus ;)
Or push them under it O0
I always shout....."F____ OFF!" when I drive past in the van.
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this muslim girl from pakistan i jokes on her and islam everyone called me mean and racist and what the hell is wrong with you. So no., when i see them in the street i give them ugly looks and such.
Why ??? That is just chilidish. Just smile and hope they get run over by a bus ;)
Or push them under it O0
I always shout....."F____ OFF!" when I drive past in the van.
Yeah i was at a Melbourne Market and all these virus where every where. I was so tempted to smack them into tomorrow, one push passed me, I push the thing back and told it to watch where it was going, pee off back to the sandpit where it came from. With a very lovely passage in Farsi I know to finish it off . Should of seen the eyes on it and when running off.
Needless to say most of the other virus got the hint.
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this muslim girl from pakistan i jokes on her and islam everyone called me mean and racist and what the hell is wrong with you. So no., when i see them in the street i give them ugly looks and such.
Why ??? That is just chilidish. Just smile and hope they get run over by a bus ;)
Or push them under it O0
I always shout....."F____ OFF!" when I drive past in the van.
Yeah i was at a Melbourne Market and all these virus where every where. I was so tempted to smack them into tomorrow, one push passed me, I push the thing back and told it to watch where it was going, pee off back to the sandpit where it came from. With a very lovely passage in Farsi I know to finish it off . Should of seen the eyes on it and when running off.
Needless to say most of the other virus got the hint.
They hate it when an infidel stands up to them.
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Had to rush to the bathroom to wash my hands thats for bloody sure :-\
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this muslim girl from pakistan i jokes on her and islam everyone called me mean and racist and what the hell is wrong with you. So no., when i see them in the street i give them ugly looks and such.
Why ??? That is just chilidish. Just smile and hope they get run over by a bus ;)
Or push them under it O0
I always shout....."F____ OFF!" when I drive past in the van.
Yeah i was at a Melbourne Market and all these virus where every where. I was so tempted to smack them into tomorrow, one push passed me, I push the thing back and told it to watch where it was going, pee off back to the sandpit where it came from. With a very lovely passage in Farsi I know to finish it off . Should of seen the eyes on it and when running off.
Needless to say most of the other virus got the hint.
They hate it when an infidel stands up to them.
Of course, they hate it.
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this muslim girl from pakistan i jokes on her and islam everyone called me mean and racist and what the hell is wrong with you. So no., when i see them in the street i give them ugly looks and such.
Why ??? That is just chilidish. Just smile and hope they get run over by a bus ;)
Or push them under it O0
I always shout....."F____ OFF!" when I drive past in the van.
Yeah i was at a Melbourne Market and all these virus where every where. I was so tempted to smack them into tomorrow, one push passed me, I push the thing back and told it to watch where it was going, pee off back to the sandpit where it came from. With a very lovely passage in Farsi I know to finish it off . Should of seen the eyes on it and when running off.
Needless to say most of the other virus got the hint.
They hate it when an infidel stands up to them.
Of course, they hate it.
Funny thing was after leaving the Market, which is set in lovely gardens I saw a stupid mullah praying to Allah. I couldn't stop laughing, he had his directions wrong he was facing North instead of East :::D
I wonder if they should put a compass on their mats ;)