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Title: Is cheating taxes justified in America?
Post by: Ralph1 on November 27, 2007, 11:20:36 PM
I say yes. The socialist and communist democrats are planning on turning America into a Marxist state. Not only do decent Americans have the right to not pay a penny in taxes they have the moral right to hunt [jdl4ever edit: Don't threaten to kill politicians on JTF for legal reasons] the likes of Hillary Clinton, Nancy Pelosi and Dennis Kucinich. Hillary Clinton's vagina smells like Saudi Arabians.
Title: Re: Is cheating taxes justified in America?
Post by: newman on November 27, 2007, 11:24:54 PM
Yes (within reason).

A simple Debit tax of 1 to 2 % on every transaction (wholesale , retail, bank deposits, withrawals, transfers etc) will provide more than enough revenue for minimalist givernment.

Income tax is theft.

Elections are an advance auction of stolen goods!
Title: Re: Is cheating taxes justified in America?
Post by: Mishmaat on November 27, 2007, 11:28:03 PM
It's not only the Democrats. Let's be fair. It's both parties that continue with this socialist nonsense. It's so depressing to work full time hours, for wages, and then look at the check, see the gross income and the net income. The government confiscates almost a third of my earnings. Add to that filing a 1040, so they steal more of my money. Unbelievable. I play by the rules right now, but we need a serious rebellion.
Title: Re: Is cheating taxes justified in America?
Post by: Raulmarrio2000 on November 27, 2007, 11:33:15 PM
Cheating Taxes would be forbidden by Hallacha to Jews due to Dina daMalchuta Dina, and to Gentiles under Gezel, in normal situations.
But now America is trying to destroy Israel, and I think it's a mitzvah to avoid American tax. Paying taxes to America would be like paying to Nazi Germany. Anyway, if you are religious consult a Rav.
Anyway I vote YES
Title: Re: Is cheating taxes justified in America?
Post by: Ralph1 on November 27, 2007, 11:35:55 PM
It's not only the Democrats. Let's be fair. It's both parties that continue with this socialist nonsense. It's so depressing to work full time hours, for wages, and then look at the check, see the gross income and the net income. The government confiscates almost a third of my earnings. Add to that filing a 1040, so they steal more of my money. Unbelievable. I play by the rules right now, but we need a serious rebellion.

You're right it is both parties but some democrats are secretly pure Communists like Hillary Clinton. She worked for a law firm which had Communists who were in the Black Panthers. Ben Allen I feel exactly the same way. Do you work in NYC? In NYC theres a local income tax.
Title: Re: Is cheating taxes justified in America?
Post by: Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks on November 27, 2007, 11:47:00 PM
Even though I don't like paying taxes and think we have an evil government, I don't want to go to jail.

Jesus says to give to Caesar what is Caesar's. I am not saying we should never disobey the government of course, but I don't think this is a fight we ought to pick.
Title: Re: Is cheating taxes justified in America?
Post by: nopeaceforland on November 27, 2007, 11:49:48 PM
I say yes. The socialist and communist democrats are planning on turning America into a Marxist state. Not only do decent Americans have the right to not pay a penny in taxes they have the moral right to hunt [jdl4ever edit: Don't threaten to kill politicians on JTF for legal reasons] the likes of Hillary Clinton, Nancy Pelosi and Dennis Kucinich. Hillary Clinton's vagina smells like Saudi Arabians.

It's okay Ralph we'll see you in about 20 years or so! ;)
Title: Re: Is cheating taxes justified in America?
Post by: Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks on November 27, 2007, 11:53:39 PM
Hillary Clinton's vagina smells like Saudi Arabians.
ROFLMAO!!!  :::D :::D :::D

To be more precise, it smells like Suha Arafat's breath!
Title: Re: Is cheating taxes justified in America?
Post by: Raulmarrio2000 on November 27, 2007, 11:54:49 PM
Anyone knows if Argentina if involved in some way in this damn "peace" efforts to destroy Israel (Apart from the fact that they have their Embassy in Tel Aviv)? If so, how can I contact a religious authority to get a psak to disobey it's law completely? Perhaps the Noahide's secretary of the Sanhedrin would answer me..... what do you think?
Title: Re: Is cheating taxes justified in America?
Post by: Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks on November 28, 2007, 12:50:47 AM
The choice is up to you. Historically Argentina has been a very anti-Semitic nation. But whether or not to go around disobeying Argentine laws is your call.
Title: Re: Is cheating taxes justified in America?
Post by: jdl4ever on November 28, 2007, 12:55:06 AM
If the government has taxes we have to obey the government's law and pay them even if they are unfair.  But I think you can do legal tricks to get out of taxes or not pay them in certain cases where the government knows no one pays them like if you sell something on ebay.  It's part of the 7 laws of Noah to not steal. 
Title: Re: Is cheating taxes justified in America?
Post by: nopeaceforland on November 28, 2007, 12:55:49 AM
The choice is up to you. Historically Argentina has been a very anti-Semitic nation. But whether or not to go around disobeying Argentine laws is your call.

Isn't there some sort of a Jewish community there anymore? I know we ran there during and after the Holocaust. ???
Title: Re: Is cheating taxes justified in America?
Post by: newman on November 28, 2007, 12:58:06 AM
If the government has taxes we have to obey the government's law and pay them even if they are unfair.  But I think you can do legal tricks to get out of taxes or not pay them in certain cases where the government knows no one pays them like if you sell something on ebay.  It's part of the 7 laws of Noah to not steal. 
However we are required to RESIST others stealing from us. When the NYC-nazi council steals money from you (via taxes) to give handouts to turd world Jew-haters you should evade those taxes.
Title: Re: Is cheating taxes justified in America?
Post by: Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks on November 28, 2007, 12:58:48 AM
There's a larger Muslim community in Argentina now--Lebanese primarily, if I recall correctly, in the state of Mendoza. I am under the impression that many of Argentina's Jews had left and that many of those remaining are isolated and in poverty.

There are also many Israeli Arabs (ys"vz) living nearby in Paraguay.
Title: Re: Is cheating taxes justified in America?
Post by: Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks on November 28, 2007, 01:00:19 AM

However we are required to RESIST others stealing from us. When the NYC-nazi council steals money from you (via taxes) to give handouts to turd world Jew-haters you should evade those taxes.
Even though I certainly agree with you in spirit, I don't agree with Kahanists going to jail over something so avoidable--plus it makes our movement look like anti-government kooks like the Nazi militias.

Title: Re: Is cheating taxes justified in America?
Post by: Raulmarrio2000 on November 28, 2007, 01:01:49 AM
If the government has taxes we have to obey the government's law and pay them even if they are unfair.  But I think you can do legal tricks to get out of taxes or not pay them in certain cases where the government knows no one pays them like if you sell something on ebay.  It's part of the 7 laws of Noah to not steal.  

Yes, under normal situations. But when someones wants to destroy Israel....? Would you pay a debt to a murderer knowing that he would use the money to buy a gun and kill you?
Many taxes may go to the Pals in USA and Europe!!!!! And they also use it to sponsor that "peace" meetings.
Title: Re: Is cheating taxes justified in America?
Post by: Hail Columbia on November 28, 2007, 01:02:27 AM
The choice is up to you. Historically Argentina has been a very anti-Semitic nation. But whether or not to go around disobeying Argentine laws is your call.

It was so, to the point of harboring Nazi and UstaĊĦe war criminals.  Wholesome characters such as Adolf Eichmann and Ante Pavelić found Argieland to be a convenient place to hide out.
Title: Re: Is cheating taxes justified in America?
Post by: jdl4ever on November 28, 2007, 01:04:32 AM
Well, I guess mathematically speaking maybe you could adjust what percentage of your taxes is going to go to welfare for blacks and to the fakestinians and not pay that according to you, but at least pay the rest since the rest of the money goes to the gov't to protect it's citizens.  I pay everything since I don't want to steal or wind up in jail.  According to Jewish Law, you have to obey the laws of a nation and pay taxes (as long as they are not antisemitic laws).
Title: Re: Is cheating taxes justified in America?
Post by: Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks on November 28, 2007, 01:05:24 AM
Every government on the earth gives money to the Fagestinian "race". Nobody is particularly more or less evil in that regard.

But--for me anyway, I have to consider:

1--I am much less useful to the movement in jail and utterly discredited in all parts of society for evading my taxes than out of jail and paying my taxes

2--Biblically, there is little room for doubt--Jesus said to pay taxes and the Roman Nazi government was one of the most barbaric in human history
Title: Re: Is cheating taxes justified in America?
Post by: Raulmarrio2000 on November 28, 2007, 01:09:52 AM
There are many still many Jews here, specially in BA. But common people are mostly anti-Semite. The Govt. is leftist and pro 70's guerrillas now. But I doubt they really want to harm Jews. I just wonder if Argentinian govt. has anything to do with "peace". Now, more than ever, "peace" means anihilation!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Is cheating taxes justified in America?
Post by: Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks on November 28, 2007, 01:17:58 AM
I agree with you there--what happened to South Africa has happened to Argentina. The Montonero terrorists are exactly the same as the "Spear of the Nation" baboon gorilla beasts.
Title: Re: Is cheating taxes justified in America?
Post by: Dan on November 28, 2007, 02:34:37 AM
I wouldn't say cheating is justified BUT getting a really good account can do the trick!  ^-^
Title: Re: Is cheating taxes justified in America?
Post by: Ralph1 on November 28, 2007, 03:15:58 AM
I wouldn't say cheating is justified BUT getting a really good account can do the trick!  ^-^

You mean accountant?
Title: Re: Is cheating taxes justified in America?
Post by: Dr. Dan on November 28, 2007, 07:50:48 AM
For those who have their own business be generous to it...It's all a write off...

and for those who give to charity like VGA, be generous also..all of that is a write off.

Speak to an accountant for more details.
Title: Re: Is cheating taxes justified in America?
Post by: Dan on November 28, 2007, 09:47:50 AM
I wouldn't say cheating is justified BUT getting a really good account can do the trick!  ^-^

You mean accountant?
Yes, Thank you Ralph...   late night!  :-[
Title: Re: Is cheating taxes justified in America?
Post by: Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks on November 28, 2007, 12:03:08 PM
For those who have their own business be generous to it...It's all a write off...

and for those who give to charity like VGA, be generous also..all of that is a write off.

Speak to an accountant for more details.
I think that's VJA, Dr. Dan...  :)
Title: Re: Is cheating taxes justified in America?
Post by: Dr. Dan on November 28, 2007, 02:40:42 PM
Oh no..i have been giving money to VGA this whole time and not VJA?!


jk...lol