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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: Husar on November 30, 2007, 11:56:11 AM
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Am I right to say
this is rather an anti-semitic
Jewish-hater post ?
it was written to me by DALMACIJA
(who's fully supported
by Serbian Cetnik
in his statements...),
just because I HATE NAZICROATS.
Here it is:
"Brother, we are Serbs, not Jews.
Our Religion doesn't teach us to hate or to revenge.
Let the Jews, they live in the time of the Tanach.
We Orthodox Serbs have to respect the Laws of the New testament.
I tell you not every "croat" is an USTASHA, but all USTASHA are "croat".
Brother, think a bit."
Help me, please...
It seems DALMACIJA is one of those many Serbs
who not only accept NAZICROATS much more quietly than I do,
but who seeks troubles, to say the least, with Jews, instead of NAZICROATS...
The message he sent to me
was written in Serbian,
I translated it exactly.
;)
DALMACIJA IS WRONG.
Jewish Religion teaches no HATE.
He REMINDS me of the "volkischer beobachter",
german NAZI "newspapers" from WWII....
???
"LET THE JEWS (...)" !!!
WHY is he in JTF ?
JEWISH Task Force.
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He's simply drawing attention to the fact that the NT tells us as Christians to love our enemies. I can agree with him on that, I can also agree that surely not all of the Croats are Nazis, of course, for the sake of safety, it is probably best to act as if they are for the time being.
I would also like to add that if DALMACIJA is banned over this, I will have to at the very least leave the forum in protest, considering what newman says about Christians in private and on other forums, to punish someone for saying something so slight about Jews while having Newman as an Honourable Winged Member would represent too great a double standard for me to tolerate.
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Husar, you sometimes may have a one track mind, but if sides need to be taken, I am on YOURS! O0
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I prefer the 'eye for an eye' rather than the 'turn the other cheek'
The enemies we are facing now are savages, they would view mercy as weakness.
I am a survivalist, I would not hesitate to put a bullet in the head of my enemy should they directly threaten my life....no mercy
Im with you Husar, though I think that the other views are necessarily anti semitic, but what we would call liberal here. The enemies we face are ruthless, we have to assume they are ALL evil, obviously not EVERY muslim wants to chop off my head and not EVERY croat wants you dead....but its too dangerous to try to figure out who is who so we need to treat them all as hostile. I value my life over that of my enemy and make no apologies for hating my enemy. O0
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I don't think it's antisimetic, it's a bit wrong. Judaism don't teach to hate, but it does teach to revenge (a term name "Justice").
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Husar is cool O0
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I prefer the 'eye for an eye' rather than the 'turn the other cheek'
The enemies we are facing now are savages, they would view mercy as weakness.
I am a survivalist, I would not hesitate to put a bullet in the head of my enemy should they directly threaten my life....no mercy
Im with you Husar, though I think that the other views are necessarily anti semitic, but what we would call liberal here. The enemies we face are ruthless, we have to assume they are ALL evil, obviously not EVERY muslim wants to chop off my head and not EVERY croat wants you dead....but its too dangerous to try to figure out who is who so we need to treat them all as hostile. I value my life over that of my enemy and make no apologies for hating my enemy. O0
Protecting/defending ourselves
is far more important than trying
to acknowledge if THIS ONE is a NAZI,
if THIS other ONE is a MUDJAHEDIN....
I value my Life and the Lives of the Ones I cherish,
uncomparably more than that of any NAZICROAT/PLO ARAB.
Thank you for your warm support, kellymaureen.
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Husar is cool O0
Not as much as you,
since I'm very hot-tempered,
yet: against NAZICROATS.
;) ;) ;)
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Husar, you sometimes may have a one track mind, but if sides need to be taken, I am on YOURS! O0
I'm not so "one-track" minded.
Look at the PLO/hamas/muSSlim/NAZI/arab (TRUE) qualification we get,
when typing baalestinian.
This is also, if you use these terms, "one-tracked mind"....
AND I LOVE IT THIS WAY.
O0 O0 O0
I use quite the same generic for qualifying NAZICROATS...
....For me, my Nation, for the Jews, THEY 'LL REMAIN NAZICROATS
UNTIL THE END OF TIME.
8;)
They'd like to be called (from time to time, and accordingly to whom they speak)
just "croats", or "peace/freedom-loving croats"....THAT DOESN'T WORK
WITH THE ONES WHO KNOW THEM WELL, like our Brother Chaim.
:) :) :)
Thank you
for supporting me,
GenteelGentile.
;) ;) ;)
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Awww... c'mon husar... You are just mad. You know yourself that DALMACIJA meant revenge. You don't need to give up your brothers...
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Awww... c'mon husar... You are just mad. You know yourself that DALMACIJA meant revenge. You don't need to give up your brothers...
A pair of my Brothers gave me up
would be closer to the Truth...
8;)
Serbchicago supports me, among other Serbs,
in my Beautiful, Sheer, Pure, Untouched HATE OF NAZICROATS.
:) :) :)
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Awww... c'mon husar... You are just mad. You know yourself that DALMACIJA meant revenge. You don't need to give up your brothers...
A pair of my Brothers gave me up
would be closer to the Truth...
8;)
Serbchicago supports me, among other Serbs,
in my Beautiful, Sheer, Pure, Untouched HATE OF NAZICROATS.
:) :) :)
Every single serb on this forum supports you. Don't you understand that? It's just that you get the wrong message when people write to you.
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I prefer the 'eye for an eye' rather than the 'turn the other cheek'
The enemies we are facing now are savages, they would view mercy as weakness.
I am a survivalist, I would not hesitate to put a bullet in the head of my enemy should they directly threaten my life....no mercy
Im with you Husar, though I think that the other views are necessarily anti semitic, but what we would call liberal here. The enemies we face are ruthless, we have to assume they are ALL evil, obviously not EVERY muslim wants to chop off my head and not EVERY croat wants you dead....but its too dangerous to try to figure out who is who so we need to treat them all as hostile. I value my life over that of my enemy and make no apologies for hating my enemy. O0
Protecting/defending ourselves
is far more important than trying
to acknowledge if THIS ONE is a NAZI,
if THIS other ONE is a MUDJAHEDIN....
I value my Life and the Lives of the Ones I cherish,
uncomparably more than that of any NAZICROAT/PLO ARAB.
Thank you for your warm support, kellymaureen.
I agree, completely. However, when there is a way to separate the innocents out from among the guilty without risking our lives, I believe that we should do so.
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I prefer the 'eye for an eye' rather than the 'turn the other cheek'
The enemies we are facing now are savages, they would view mercy as weakness.
I am a survivalist, I would not hesitate to put a bullet in the head of my enemy should they directly threaten my life....no mercy
Im with you Husar, though I think that the other views are necessarily anti semitic, but what we would call liberal here. The enemies we face are ruthless, we have to assume they are ALL evil, obviously not EVERY muslim wants to chop off my head and not EVERY croat wants you dead....but its too dangerous to try to figure out who is who so we need to treat them all as hostile. I value my life over that of my enemy and make no apologies for hating my enemy. O0
Protecting/defending ourselves
is far more important than trying
to acknowledge if THIS ONE is a NAZI,
if THIS other ONE is a MUDJAHEDIN....
I value my Life and the Lives of the Ones I cherish,
uncomparably more than that of any NAZICROAT/PLO ARAB.
Thank you for your warm support, kellymaureen.
Youre very welcome O0
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1- Surely it's wrong to accuse all creats if Nazism. One is allowed to assume they may be, in case of doubt, when one fears for his life. That is, not to trust in a person who belongs to a supicious group unles he proves to be righteous. But comments on a forum aren't meant to save lives, so we cannot assume a Croat is Nazi and called to revenge or offend him. We can only avoid dealing with them in case it would be neccessary to protect a life.
2- Dalmacija is wrong. Christianity does not teach to forgive murders, but only offesnses. Jesus was speaking to the Jews when he spoke about forgiveness, and it's obvious that Jews are bound to forgive their fellows. Jesus only repeated what Moses said about not hating a fellow Jew. Later, Christians understood that they must forgive any crime from everyone, but curiously never took it to practise!!!!!!
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I prefer the 'eye for an eye' rather than the 'turn the other cheek'
The enemies we are facing now are savages, they would view mercy as weakness.
I am a survivalist, I would not hesitate to put a bullet in the head of my enemy should they directly threaten my life....no mercy
Im with you Husar, though I think that the other views are necessarily anti semitic, but what we would call liberal here. The enemies we face are ruthless, we have to assume they are ALL evil, obviously not EVERY muslim wants to chop off my head and not EVERY croat wants you dead....but its too dangerous to try to figure out who is who so we need to treat them all as hostile. I value my life over that of my enemy and make no apologies for hating my enemy. O0
Protecting/defending ourselves
is far more important than trying
to acknowledge if THIS ONE is a NAZI,
if THIS other ONE is a MUDJAHEDIN....
I value my Life and the Lives of the Ones I cherish,
uncomparably more than that of any NAZICROAT/PLO ARAB.
Thank you for your warm support, kellymaureen.
Youre very welcome O0
:) :) :)
Have you seen we've got
the exact same number of posts ?
8;)
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I prefer the 'eye for an eye' rather than the 'turn the other cheek'
The enemies we are facing now are savages, they would view mercy as weakness.
I am a survivalist, I would not hesitate to put a bullet in the head of my enemy should they directly threaten my life....no mercy
Im with you Husar, though I think that the other views are necessarily anti semitic, but what we would call liberal here. The enemies we face are ruthless, we have to assume they are ALL evil, obviously not EVERY muslim wants to chop off my head and not EVERY croat wants you dead....but its too dangerous to try to figure out who is who so we need to treat them all as hostile. I value my life over that of my enemy and make no apologies for hating my enemy. O0
Protecting/defending ourselves
is far more important than trying
to acknowledge if THIS ONE is a NAZI,
if THIS other ONE is a MUDJAHEDIN....
I value my Life and the Lives of the Ones I cherish,
uncomparably more than that of any NAZICROAT/PLO ARAB.
Thank you for your warm support, kellymaureen.
Youre very welcome O0
:) :) :)
Have you seen we've got
the exact same number of posts ?
8;)
Well that is very cool :)
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Indeed.
:)
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Indeed.
:)
Husar, you are one of my favorite Serb members here. I agree with you. O0
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JTFFan, you're embarrassing me, Brother...
;) ;) ;)
You're an EXCEPTIONNAL MEMBER.
O0 O0 O0
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He's simply drawing attention to the fact that the NT tells us as Christians tolove our enemies. I can agree with him on that, .........
It's no secret that that the west is being destroyed by a rising tide of moral ambiguity. What is more disappointing is that this moral ambiguity and vaccuousness is not just being perpetuated by a secular elite but also by people of religion who should know better.
How many times do you hear the well-meaning (but stupid) say..."we must love everyone"? It all sounds very nice, doesn't it? Peace, love, no hate and all that 'jazz'.There's only one problem.........to love 'everybody' is (in effect) to love 'NOBODY'. How can love have any value, meaning or significance if it is accorded to all and sundry, regardless of their worth? Tell your wife you love her.....then add that that you also love every other woman in your neighbourhood. You'll find yourself sleeping on the couch! I assume you love your children. Do you love child mollesters, too? We love the Jewish people who have contributed so much to our civilisation. Are we to love the nazis who sent them to the ovens? We love the Doctors and nurses who care for the sick. Do we love the suicide bomber, too?
Any sensible person knows that is you teach school children every religion on the planet, you are (in fact) saying to the child "They're all the same, all equal, take your pick......it doesn't matter". You have actually tought NO religion. What about teaching ALL values? Say to your daughters..." Well, one set of values is to keep youself for your husband, another is to spread your legs for anybody in the back seat of a Chevrolet." You end up teaching NO values at all.
If it is true that to teach ALL value sets is to teach NO values, and to teach ALL religion is to teach NO religion, then surely...........to love EVERYBODY is to love NOBODY.
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You can love someone, while hating what they are doing, you love the suicide bomber as a fellow human being, while hating the fact that they have been indoctrinated, and that they have been corrupted to actually be prepared to die in order to kill innocents, in many ways they are also a victim, you hate the ideology that they are following, but you don't have to hate them, this does not of course mean that you should let them carry out their attack if you can shoot them instead.
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You can love someone, while hating what they are doing, you love the suicide bomber as a fellow human being, while hating the fact that they have been indoctrinated, and that they have been corrupted to actually be prepared to die in order to kill innocents, in many ways they are also a victim, you hate the ideology that they are following, but you don't have to hate them, this does not of course mean that you should let them carry out their attack if you can shoot them instead.
That's the sickest, most twisted, vile piece of Orwellian garbabage I've ever read from someone claiming to be religious!
To love someone, they must be lovable.
A man is defined by what he does and how he lives. You cannot separate hitler(Y'S) into monster and 'lovable' parts! You cannot separate Ted Bundy from the phsycotic killer that he was! (Although given that you separate the One and indivisable G-D of Israel into 3 separate people, I'm not surprised you struggle with this concept)
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You can love someone, while hating what they are doing, you love the suicide bomber as a fellow human being, while hating the fact that they have been indoctrinated, and that they have been corrupted to actually be prepared to die in order to kill innocents, in many ways they are also a victim, you hate the ideology that they are following, but you don't have to hate them, this does not of course mean that you should let them carry out their attack if you can shoot them instead.
That's the sickest, most twisted, vile piece of Orwellian garbabage I've ever read from someone claiming to be religious!
To love someone, they must be lovable.
A man is defined by what he does and how he lives. You cannot separate hitler(Y'S) into monster and 'lovable' parts! You cannot separate Ted Bundy from the phsycotic killer that he was! (Although given that you separate the One and indivisable G-D of Israel into 3 separate people, I'm not surprised you struggle with this concept)
Well we could certainly love shooting him O0
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You can love someone, while hating what they are doing, you love the suicide bomber as a fellow human being, while hating the fact that they have been indoctrinated, and that they have been corrupted to actually be prepared to die in order to kill innocents, in many ways they are also a victim, you hate the ideology that they are following, but you don't have to hate them, this does not of course mean that you should let them carry out their attack if you can shoot them instead.
That's the sickest, most twisted, vile piece of Orwellian garbabage I've ever read from someone claiming to be religious!
To love someone, they must be lovable.
A man is defined by what he does and how he lives. You cannot separate hitler(Y'S) into monster and 'lovable' parts! You cannot separate Ted Bundy from the phsycotic killer that he was! (Although given that you separate the One and indivisable G-D of Israel into 3 separate people, I'm not surprised you struggle with this concept)
Well we could certainly love shooting him O0
Unfortunately, some people are so twisted they think they can love those who should be shot!
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You can love someone, while hating what they are doing, you love the suicide bomber as a fellow human being, while hating the fact that they have been indoctrinated, and that they have been corrupted to actually be prepared to die in order to kill innocents, in many ways they are also a victim, you hate the ideology that they are following, but you don't have to hate them, this does not of course mean that you should let them carry out their attack if you can shoot them instead.
That's the sickest, most twisted, vile piece of Orwellian garbabage I've ever read from someone claiming to be religious!
To love someone, they must be lovable.
A man is defined by what he does and how he lives. You cannot separate hitler(Y'S) into monster and 'lovable' parts! You cannot separate Ted Bundy from the phsycotic killer that he was! (Although given that you separate the One and indivisable G-D of Israel into 3 separate people, I'm not surprised you struggle with this concept)
Well we could certainly love shooting him O0
Unfortunately, some people are so twisted they think they can love those who should be shot!
This is the man for whom logic and wisdom come before loyalty to the faith he was born to. Bravo, maestro!
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You can love someone, while hating what they are doing, you love the suicide bomber as a fellow human being, while hating the fact that they have been indoctrinated, and that they have been corrupted to actually be prepared to die in order to kill innocents, in many ways they are also a victim, you hate the ideology that they are following, but you don't have to hate them, this does not of course mean that you should let them carry out their attack if you can shoot them instead.
A suicide bomber may be indoctrinated to think he'll get paradise for his acts. That's makes him even worse, selfish and evil. He's not so indoctrinated to believe he is doing good to his victims. Does a terrorist really believes he helps his victims by killing them?????????????????????
NO. He mistakenly thinks he gets paradise, but he knoews he harms others. No love for them!!!!!! And no love for his family who shows his photos to make him a hero. NEVER!
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Husar placed my message out of the real context..
I discovered this unserious topic just now.
Husar placed my message out of the real context..
I never said that Judaism teaches hate or something that.
I also never said that we must forgive murders.
I only said that we can not kill all the Croatians for the mistakes of their forefathers.
This topic tells more about Husar than about me.
Husar is blackmailing his own Serbian compatriot with out a good reason.
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Husar placed my message out of the real context..
I discovered this unserious topic just now.
Husar placed my message out of the real context..
I never said that Judaism teaches hate or something about that.
I also never said that we must forgive murders.
I only said that we can not kill all the Croatians for the mistakes of the forefathers.
This topic tells more about Husar than about me.
Husar is blackmailing his own Serbian compatriot with out a good reason.
I don't know what else to say, then try to bury the hatchet and make ammends as best as you can.
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HUSAR is only angry because i dissed him sevaral times on the Serbian sub forum.
Just cry you Husar, baby!
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Why did he published my private message?
Private messages arenot public messages?
And he changed the real context?
This is childish!
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You can love someone, while hating what they are doing, you love the suicide bomber as a fellow human being, while hating the fact that they have been indoctrinated, and that they have been corrupted to actually be prepared to die in order to kill innocents, in many ways they are also a victim, you hate the ideology that they are following, but you don't have to hate them, this does not of course mean that you should let them carry out their attack if you can shoot them instead.
Well I agree in some sort of a way. But I disagree that you can love a terrorist. Yes, I hate them being indoctrinated, but I don't love them as a human being, not love.
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I don't know if loving a suicide bomber as a fellow human being is anti-Semitic, but it is insane.
There's nothing human about suicide bombers.
In fact, I hate the term suicide bomber.
These pieces of excrement should be called homicide bombers or genocide bombers.
They don't bomb to commit suicide. They bomb to murder and commit genocide.
Love them as human beings ?
I'd love to kill them and wipe out the societies that produce them.
That's because I have love for the victims of these genocide bombers, and nothing but contempt for the bombers themselves.
That's real, not misplaced, love.
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You can love someone, while hating what they are doing, you love the suicide bomber as a fellow human being, while hating the fact that they have been indoctrinated, and that they have been corrupted to actually be prepared to die in order to kill innocents, in many ways they are also a victim, you hate the ideology that they are following, but you don't have to hate them, this does not of course mean that you should let them carry out their attack if you can shoot them instead.
Well I agree in some sort of a way. But I disagree that you can love a terrorist. Yes, I hate them being indoctrinated, but I don't love them as a human being, not love.
You can never "love" a terrorist, even if he is indoctrinated, brainwashed, mislead or whatever. A terrorist is a terrorist!
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You can love someone, while hating what they are doing, you love the suicide bomber as a fellow human being, while hating the fact that they have been indoctrinated, and that they have been corrupted to actually be prepared to die in order to kill innocents, in many ways they are also a victim, you hate the ideology that they are following, but you don't have to hate them, this does not of course mean that you should let them carry out their attack if you can shoot them instead.
Well I agree in some sort of a way. But I disagree that you can love a terrorist. Yes, I hate them being indoctrinated, but I don't love them as a human being, not love.
You can never "love" a terrorist, even if he is indoctrinated, brainwashed, mislead or whatever. A terrorist is a terrorist!
I didn't say I love them :P
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You can love someone, while hating what they are doing, you love the suicide bomber as a fellow human being, while hating the fact that they have been indoctrinated, and that they have been corrupted to actually be prepared to die in order to kill innocents, in many ways they are also a victim, you hate the ideology that they are following, but you don't have to hate them, this does not of course mean that you should let them carry out their attack if you can shoot them instead.
Well I agree in some sort of a way. But I disagree that you can love a terrorist. Yes, I hate them being indoctrinated, but I don't love them as a human being, not love.
You can never "love" a terrorist, even if he is indoctrinated, brainwashed, mislead or whatever. A terrorist is a terrorist!
I didn't say I love them :P
I know that, I was just stating that out in the open. O0 ;D
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You can love someone, while hating what they are doing, you love the suicide bomber as a fellow human being, while hating the fact that they have been indoctrinated, and that they have been corrupted to actually be prepared to die in order to kill innocents, in many ways they are also a victim, you hate the ideology that they are following, but you don't have to hate them, this does not of course mean that you should let them carry out their attack if you can shoot them instead.
Well I agree in some sort of a way. But I disagree that you can love a terrorist. Yes, I hate them being indoctrinated, but I don't love them as a human being, not love.
You can never "love" a terrorist, even if he is indoctrinated, brainwashed, mislead or whatever. A terrorist is a terrorist!
I didn't say I love them :P
I know that, I was just stating that out in the open. O0 ;D
Ok hehe O0