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Title: Israel could kick England's asss in a war
Post by: The Shadow on December 01, 2007, 11:08:58 PM
I read that israel has the third 4th strongest army in the world, and the second largest airforce behind the United States.  If England fought Israel in the middle east, and Israel took the kid gloves off, they could destroy England
Title: Re: Israel could kick England's asss in a war
Post by: newman on December 01, 2007, 11:13:28 PM
I agree. Warfare is a question of b@lls. Look at the 800 Aussie Light Horsemen charging over open desert destroying Thousands of entrenched Turks with massed cannon and machine guns at Beersheva.

The English armed forces today attend ethnic sensitivity training instead of the rifle range!
Title: Re: Israel could kick England's asss in a war
Post by: The Shadow on December 01, 2007, 11:15:34 PM
Newman, for real, in an all out war in the middel east, one to one, do you think IOsrael would beat England.  If England also went all out
Title: Re: Israel could kick England's asss in a war
Post by: kellymaureen on December 01, 2007, 11:16:50 PM
Come on now...they were pretty damn tough at that tea party that ahmalittlenutjob threw for them when he "invited" them over and showed them some iranian hospitality...complete with gift bags and a hajib for the female sailor ::)
Title: Re: Israel could kick England's asss in a war
Post by: דוד בן זאב אריה on December 01, 2007, 11:19:31 PM
I read that israel has the third 4th strongest army in the world, and the second largest airforce behind the United States.  If England fought Israel in the middle east, and Israel took the kid gloves off, they could destroy England

In times like these we have to stay united against a common enemy. Even if England is evil they pale in comparison to Islam
Title: Re: Israel could kick England's asss in a war
Post by: newman on December 01, 2007, 11:19:55 PM
Newman, for real, in an all out war in the middel east, one to one, do you think IOsrael would beat England.  If England also went all out
Yes.

In war games with the Us Air Forces the Israelis 'kill' over ten US planes to every loss of theirs.

As for a ground war, forget about it. NOBODY beats Israel.
Title: Re: Israel could kick England's asss in a war
Post by: Vito on December 01, 2007, 11:22:29 PM
Israel has an excellent air force and ground troops, England has an excellent navy and good air force - tough to say in theory. Though G-d wouldn't allow Israel to loose.. but that's an interesting comparison.
Title: Re: Israel could kick England's asss in a war
Post by: The Shadow on December 01, 2007, 11:36:29 PM
Hey vito:  I know Israel could kick Italy's asss in war :P
Title: Re: Israel could kick England's asss in a war
Post by: Eliezer Ben Avraham on December 01, 2007, 11:47:16 PM
it wont happen, there is too much that england has to lose, even if they did win they would lose a lot of planes and troops
Title: Re: Israel could kick England's asss in a war
Post by: newman on December 01, 2007, 11:51:32 PM
Wanna know just how useless the Brit armed services have become?


http://jtf.org/forum_english/index.php?topic=12691.0

Title: Re: Israel could kick England's asss in a war
Post by: Kiwi on December 01, 2007, 11:52:29 PM
Very Interesting it would depend on where it takes place, the German's could not displace England through out WW2. If the Brits fight off home soil then Israel has a good chance of winning, but not on home ground.

Britain has a history of not giving the best to its troops, but the soldiers are first rate, and would give as good as they get.

I think pretty much equal in strength.

But I can never see England going to war with Israel anyway. 
Title: Re: Israel could kick England's asss in a war
Post by: ape on December 01, 2007, 11:54:12 PM
Hey vito:  I know Israel could kick Italy's asss in war :P

Italy hasn't been strong since the Roman Empire. They couldn't even hold on to Lybia unfortunately.
Title: Re: Israel could kick England's asss in a war
Post by: Kiwi on December 01, 2007, 11:55:13 PM
Newman Britain is far from unless, and I have dealt with many. Australian Military work well with their Allies.

Britain is a strong Ally.
Title: Re: Israel could kick England's asss in a war
Post by: newman on December 01, 2007, 11:55:51 PM


Britain has a history of not giving the best to its troops, but the soldiers are first rate, and would give as good as they get.



They USED to be good.

They're USELESS now.

http://jtf.org/forum_english/index.php?topic=12691.0

Title: Re: Israel could kick England's asss in a war
Post by: Kiwi on December 02, 2007, 12:20:00 AM


Britain has a history of not giving the best to its troops, but the soldiers are first rate, and would give as good as they get.



They USED to be good.

They're USELESS now.

http://jtf.org/forum_english/index.php?topic=12691.0



No not the soldiers I stood along side ..............never.
Title: Re: Israel could kick England's asss in a war
Post by: Eliezer Ben Avraham on December 02, 2007, 12:23:41 AM


Britain has a history of not giving the best to its troops, but the soldiers are first rate, and would give as good as they get.



They USED to be good.

They're USELESS now.

http://jtf.org/forum_english/index.php?topic=12691.0


England is decent, they don't have the greatest army, but its ok
Title: Re: Israel could kick England's asss in a war
Post by: Raulmarrio2000 on December 02, 2007, 12:29:32 AM
England or Italy would never attack Israel. The West is mistakenly seen as an Israel's ally. And they will never wish to be showed as if they have changed their mind. It would seem an Arab victory!!!! The hate Arabs!!!!
That's why they wish to gey rid of Israel by "peace" plans!
Title: Re: Israel could kick England's asss in a war
Post by: The Shadow on December 02, 2007, 12:31:21 AM
I think you're right.  And Israel is happy to go along with it
Title: Re: Israel could kick England's asss in a war
Post by: Boeregeneraal on December 02, 2007, 12:40:52 AM
sHOULD THOSE TEA DRINKERS want to attack Israel, The Boers would come to the aid of our Israeli Brothers!!!

Besides, those tea drinkers urinate in their tea soacked pants when they hear the word "Boer".

Oh yes...the Boers have some unfinished business with those bloody brits...!

Title: Re: Israel could kick England's asss in a war
Post by: newman on December 02, 2007, 12:45:50 AM
sHOULD THOSE TEA DRINKERS want to attack Israel, The Boers would come to the aid of our Israeli Brothers!!!

Besides, those tea drinkers urinate in their tea soacked pants when they hear the word "Boer".

Oh yes...the Boers have some unfinished business with those bloody brits...!


SA was where the Brits invented concentration camps and scortched earth.

At least they had something between their legs in those days. Even in Maggie's day they wouldn't give in to banana dictators.

Just look at them now! Pathetic!!
Title: Re: Israel could kick England's asss in a war
Post by: Kiwi on December 02, 2007, 12:48:59 AM
sHOULD THOSE TEA DRINKERS want to attack Israel, The Boers would come to the aid of our Israeli Brothers!!!

Besides, those tea drinkers urinate in their tea soacked pants when they hear the word "Boer".

Oh yes...the Boers have some unfinished business with those bloody brits...!


SA was where the Brits invented concentration camps and scortched earth.

At least they had something between their legs in those days. Even in Maggie's day they wouldn't give in to banana dictators.

Just look at them now! Pathetic!!

There was nothing wrong with clearing the land  8;)

The moment the Brits came out of SA it when to the dogs.
Title: Re: Israel could kick England's asss in a war
Post by: newman on December 02, 2007, 12:51:05 AM
sHOULD THOSE TEA DRINKERS want to attack Israel, The Boers would come to the aid of our Israeli Brothers!!!

Besides, those tea drinkers urinate in their tea soacked pants when they hear the word "Boer".

Oh yes...the Boers have some unfinished business with those bloody brits...!


SA was where the Brits invented concentration camps and scortched earth.

At least they had something between their legs in those days. Even in Maggie's day they wouldn't give in to banana dictators.

Just look at them now! Pathetic!!

There was nothing wrong with clearing the land  8;)

The moment the Brits came out of SA it when to the dogs.
WHAT!!! ?

The 'English South Africans' were the hairdressers! The Boers are the ONLY Sarth Efricans woth a damn.
Title: Re: Israel could kick England's asss in a war
Post by: Kiwi on December 02, 2007, 12:57:29 AM

There was nothing wrong with clearing the land  8;)

The moment the Brits came out of SA it when to the dogs.
WHAT!!! ?

The 'English South Africans' were the hairdressers! The Boers are the ONLY Sarth Efricans woth a damn.

The whites did a lot for the Blacks there, gave them food, jobs, clothes, health care. What have they got now?

One of the biggest British companys BOAC was very active in SA, and many benefited from it.
Title: Re: Israel could kick England's asss in a war
Post by: newman on December 02, 2007, 01:00:49 AM

There was nothing wrong with clearing the land  8;)

The moment the Brits came out of SA it when to the dogs.
WHAT!!! ?

The 'English South Africans' were the hairdressers! The Boers are the ONLY Sarth Efricans woth a damn.

The whites did a lot for the Blacks there, gave them food, jobs, clothes, health care. What have they got now?

One of the biggest British companys BOAC was very active in SA, and many benefited from it.
The Brits (Britain) left SA at the end of the Boer War. The Boers were the ones who ran and defended SA. It went to the dogs when De Klerk (Y'S) tuned traitor and gave it over to apes.
Title: Re: Israel could kick England's asss in a war
Post by: Kiwi on December 02, 2007, 01:03:59 AM

There was nothing wrong with clearing the land  8;)

The moment the Brits came out of SA it when to the dogs.
WHAT!!! ?

The 'English South Africans' were the hairdressers! The Boers are the ONLY Sarth Efricans woth a damn.

The whites did a lot for the Blacks there, gave them food, jobs, clothes, health care. What have they got now?

One of the biggest British companys BOAC was very active in SA, and many benefited from it.
The Brits (Britain) left SA at the end of the Boer War. The Boers were the ones who ran and defended SA. It went to the dogs when De Klerk (Y'S) tuned traitor and gave it over to apes.

So my point is still SA did far better under Britain than not.

Yes they left SA because the Empire was ending had its day.
Title: Re: Israel could kick England's asss in a war
Post by: Boeregeneraal on December 02, 2007, 01:06:14 AM
Also, it's actually a fact, that Britain stuffed up Africa...and the whites being killed today,much of it was as a result of the brits.

1. 50% of the future Boer population was exterminated by the brits in their damned concentration camps!
           If the Boers had double their population, they would still have been in control in SA-and not being killed everyday!


2). A very little known fact-the Boers and the blacks lived in PEACE!!! Up until the brits came, made war with the blacks in order to steal their lands. Britain ignited the fires...the fires that are still burning as strong as ever! Blacks associate Boers and brits, as we have the same colour

Damn those filthy brits!!!!!
Title: Re: Israel could kick England's asss in a war
Post by: newman on December 02, 2007, 01:10:48 AM


So my point is still SA did far better under Britain than not.

Yes they left SA because the Empire was ending had its day.
NO!!!!

Britain Stuffed SA.

The Boers (Dutch, NOT British) were the ones who built and defended SA.
Title: Re: Israel could kick England's asss in a war
Post by: Boeregeneraal on December 02, 2007, 01:11:11 AM

There was nothing wrong with clearing the land  8;)

The moment the Brits came out of SA it when to the dogs.
WHAT!!! ?

The 'English South Africans' were the hairdressers! The Boers are the ONLY Sarth Efricans woth a damn.

The whites did a lot for the Blacks there, gave them food, jobs, clothes, health care. What have they got now?

One of the biggest British companys BOAC was very active in SA, and many benefited from it.
The Brits (Britain) left SA at the end of the Boer War. The Boers were the ones who ran and defended SA. It went to the dogs when De Klerk (Y'S) tuned traitor and gave it over to apes.

So my point is still SA did far better under Britain than not.

Yes they left SA because the Empire was ending had its day.

ehm...they left SA in 1914 or 15!!! And south africa became a Union.

Also, it was the Brits whom started racial seperation (apartheid)!!!!

Eh...stealing the Boers' gold and lands...and taking the profits off to england...you call that SA being better under brits!?
Boers were many times refused studies etc.
I have books here, that show, once those brits ran from africa (leaving the boers to clean up after theire mess), SA's economy improved unbelievably. So much so, the Rand was HIGHER than the  US Dollar!!!!
Title: Re: Israel could kick England's asss in a war
Post by: Kiwi on December 02, 2007, 01:16:56 AM

There was nothing wrong with clearing the land  8;)

The moment the Brits came out of SA it when to the dogs.
WHAT!!! ?

The 'English South Africans' were the hairdressers! The Boers are the ONLY Sarth Efricans woth a damn.

The whites did a lot for the Blacks there, gave them food, jobs, clothes, health care. What have they got now?

One of the biggest British companys BOAC was very active in SA, and many benefited from it.
The Brits (Britain) left SA at the end of the Boer War. The Boers were the ones who ran and defended SA. It went to the dogs when De Klerk (Y'S) tuned traitor and gave it over to apes.

So my point is still SA did far better under Britain than not.

Yes they left SA because the Empire was ending had its day.

ehm...they left SA in 1914 or 15!!! And south africa became a Union.

Also, it was the Brits whom started racial seperation (apartheid)!!!!

Eh...stealing the Boers' gold and lands...and taking the profits off to england...you call that SA being better under brits!?
Boers were many times refused studies etc.
I have books here, that show, once those brits ran from africa (leaving the boers to clean up after theire mess), SA's economy improved unbelievably. So much so, the Rand was HIGHER than the  US Dollar!!!!

In 1943 BOAC was well established in SA working with the British Army, and you didn't have the blacks carry on like they do now. Infact they quite happy worked as servents. our family had 34 servents and when they were given their freedom they didn't want it. So yes the Brits treated everyone badly. ::)

Some did but not all. The Blacks could never rule themselves not then, not now, not ever.
Title: Re: Israel could kick England's asss in a war
Post by: newman on December 02, 2007, 01:22:35 AM


In 1943 BOAC was well established in SA working with the British Army, and you didn't have the blacks carry on like they do now. Infact they quite happy worked as servents. our family had 34 servents and when they were given their freedom they didn't want it. So yes the Brits treated everyone badly. ::)

Some did but not all. The Blacks could never rule themselves not then, not now, not ever.

All true but.............

It wasn't the British who ran South Africa in the 20th century! It was BOERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Israel could kick England's asss in a war
Post by: Kiwi on December 02, 2007, 01:39:25 AM
Well not in the area I was talking about tho there was a few Rawnecks about. But mostly English and Scott's.

Last major British family to leave Durban was 60 something, or near abouts.
Title: Re: Israel could kick England's asss in a war
Post by: yeshuadisciple on December 02, 2007, 01:51:24 AM
from a purely secular point of view if England were to gear up they would win a war with Israel from a population and industrial output standpoint.  However, in these last days God has planted Israel for the 2nd and final time as foretold in Isaiah 11:11-15

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    *   11.
    * In that day the Lord will reach out his hand a second time to reclaim the remnant that is left of his people from Assyria, from Lower Egypt, from Upper Egypt, from Cush, from Elam, from Babylonia, from Hamath and from the islands of the sea.

    * 12.
    * He will raise a banner for the nations and gather the exiles of Israel; he will assemble the scattered people of Judah from the four quarters of the earth.

    * 13.
    * Ephraim's jealousy will vanish, and Judah's enemies will be cut off; Ephraim will not be jealous of Judah, nor Judah hostile toward Ephraim.

    * 14.
    * They will swoop down on the slopes of Philistia to the west; together they will plunder the people to the east. They will lay hands on Edom and Moab, and the Ammonites will be subject to them.

    * 15.
    * The LORD will dry up the gulf of the Egyptian sea; with a scorching wind he will sweep his hand over the Euphrates River. He will break it up into seven streams so that men can cross over in sandals.

    * 16.
    * There will be a highway for the remnant of his people that is left from Assyria, as there was for Israel when they came up from Egypt.

Parts of this prophecy are yet to be fulfilled.  Interesting that Philistia is mentioned, the Hebrew version of Palestine.  The Philistines were in what is now known as Gaza.  Israel is an indestructible nation.