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Torah and Jewish Idea => Torah and Jewish Idea => Topic started by: Kiwi on December 06, 2007, 11:56:47 PM
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What was G-ds intention when creating all the different races in this world?
Why didn't he just make one race, one colour?
And why didn't he do that all through nature? But he made birds, but all different colours and shapes, and they stay solely to their kind.
Unless humans breed them and change the natural order of things.
If G-d set the natural order of staying to our own, why does man change it, against G-ds intentions?
Is it right to go against our creator?
Why did he create Jews and gentiles? Why didn't he just create one people?
Why must we be one colourless mass?
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What was G-ds intention when creating all the different races in this world?
Why didn't he just make one race, one colour?
And why didn't he do that all through nature? But he made birds, but all different colours and shapes, and they stay solely to their kind.
Unless humans breed them and change the natural order of things.
If G-d set the natural order of staying to our own, why does man change it, against G-ds intentions?
Is it right to go against our creator?
Why did he create Jews and gentiles? Why didn't he just create one people?
Why must we be one colourless mass?
Excellent question, Infidel.
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Excellent question, Infidel.
Thank you kind sir 8;)
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the issue of language was created with the tower of babel, perhaps race evolved from that....
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BTW,
For all those who believe in the "big, melting (slop) pot":
For dinner tomorrow, take your salad& dressing, meat, vegetables, icecream, cheese, crackers, coffee and wine; put them in a food processor, blend for 2 minutes, then eat the resulting slop. And do that with every meal from now on otherwise you're hypocrits.
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Great question, Infidel O0
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the issue of language was created with the tower of babel, perhaps race evolved from that....
Well humans were dispersed throughout the Earth after that incedent - and until then (or around that time), the whole human race was supposed to receive the Torah. But as Avraham was the only righteous one in his generation, it was changed to only his descendants (which later became Yitzchak's descendants, which later became Yaakov's descendants).
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the issue of language was created with the tower of babel, perhaps race evolved from that....
Well humans were dispersed throughout the Earth after that incedent - and until then (or around that time), the whole human race was supposed to receive the Torah. But as Avraham was the only righteous one in his generation, it was changed to only his descendants (which later became Yitzchak's descendants, which later became Yaakov's descendants).
That still doesn't answer the question. G-D could have just made 2 nations...................1 Jews ans 2 a homogenous gentile nation. But he didn't. He made 70 different nations. Why?
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Great question, Infidel O0
Thank you, it is something I have always thought about. I was a funny kid :::D
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Great question, Infidel O0
Thank you, it is something I have always thought about. I was a funny kid :::D
You'd have been almost as big a pain in the bum as I was as a kid! :D
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Great question, Infidel O0
Thank you, it is something I have always thought about. I was a funny kid :::D
You'd have been almost as big a pain in the bum as I was as a kid! :D
Could of been :::D
Deep down the the back of our family tree we have an Arch Biship, my cuz Larry :)
We would spend many a day, were I would drive him nuts with questions about God.
He always answered me and never once pass the buck about just have faith.
I wonder where he is now :-\
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BTW,
For all those who believe in the "big, melting (slop) pot":
For dinner tomorrow, take your salad& dressing, meat, vegetables, icecream, cheese, crackers, coffee and wine; put them in a food processor, blend for 2 minutes, then eat the resulting slop. And do that with every meal from now on otherwise you're hypocrits.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSTWqRkBN74&feature=related
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the issue of language was created with the tower of babel, perhaps race evolved from that....
Well humans were dispersed throughout the Earth after that incedent - and until then (or around that time), the whole human race was supposed to receive the Torah. But as Avraham was the only righteous one in his generation, it was changed to only his descendants (which later became Yitzchak's descendants, which later became Yaakov's descendants).
That still doesn't answer the question. G-D could have just made 2 nations...................1 Jews ans 2 a homogenous gentile nation. But he didn't. He made 70 different nations. Why?
Because the whole point was to scatter people all over the place. What good would that do if there were only two nations?
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(not certain) but maybe 70 nations = to the 70 Jews who went down to Egypt.
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the issue of language was created with the tower of babel, perhaps race evolved from that....
Well humans were dispersed throughout the Earth after that incedent - and until then (or around that time), the whole human race was supposed to receive the Torah. But as Avraham was the only righteous one in his generation, it was changed to only his descendants (which later became Yitzchak's descendants, which later became Yaakov's descendants).
That still doesn't answer the question. G-D could have just made 2 nations...................1 Jews ans 2 a homogenous gentile nation. But he didn't. He made 70 different nations. Why?
Because the whole point was to scatter people all over the place. What good would that do if there were only two nations?
Exactly.
That's why we should avoid genetically mixing as much as possible. Who wants one big slop nation?
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Because the whole point was to scatter people all over the place. What good would that do if there were only two nations?
God could of put the same type of person all over the Earth but he didn't.
Why are we lead to believe that mixing our genes to create one race is acceptable?
God doesn't think it was, thats why is separated people.
So why do people go against Gods wishes and cross breed, and mix our races?
I thought apart of the faith in God is to honour his ways and laws. ???
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Because the whole point was to scatter people all over the place. What good would that do if there were only two nations?
G-d could of put the same type of person all over the Earth but he didn't.
Why are we lead to believe that mixing our genes to create one race is acceptable?
G-d doesn't think it was, thats why is separated people.
So why do people go against Gods wishes and cross breed, and mix our races?
I thought apart of the faith in G-d is to honour his ways and laws. ???
Here's all I care about:
Jews can only marry Jews. Goyim can't. As to everything else Gentiles do, if it has no effect on the Jewish people, I could most often care less...
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Because the whole point was to scatter people all over the place. What good would that do if there were only two nations?
G-d could of put the same type of person all over the Earth but he didn't.
Why are we lead to believe that mixing our genes to create one race is acceptable?
G-d doesn't think it was, thats why is separated people.
So why do people go against Gods wishes and cross breed, and mix our races?
I thought apart of the faith in G-d is to honour his ways and laws. ???
Here's all I care about:
Jews can only marry Jews. Goyim can't. As to everything else Gentiles do, if it has no effect on the Jewish people, I could most often care less...
Nicely said but doesn't answer the question now does it.
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Because the whole point was to scatter people all over the place. What good would that do if there were only two nations?
G-d could of put the same type of person all over the Earth but he didn't.
Why are we lead to believe that mixing our genes to create one race is acceptable?
G-d doesn't think it was, thats why is separated people.
So why do people go against Gods wishes and cross breed, and mix our races?
I thought apart of the faith in G-d is to honour his ways and laws. ???
Here's all I care about:
Jews can only marry Jews. Goyim can't. As to everything else Gentiles do, if it has no effect on the Jewish people, I could most often care less...
Nicely said but doesn't answer the question now does it.
As any steriotypical Jew like myself will tell you, what can you do? I mean, what do you want me to tell you? You ask a question without an answer.
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Because the whole point was to scatter people all over the place. What good would that do if there were only two nations?
G-d could of put the same type of person all over the Earth but he didn't.
Why are we lead to believe that mixing our genes to create one race is acceptable?
G-d doesn't think it was, thats why is separated people.
So why do people go against Gods wishes and cross breed, and mix our races?
I thought apart of the faith in G-d is to honour his ways and laws. ???
Here's all I care about:
Jews can only marry Jews. Goyim can't. As to everything else Gentiles do, if it has no effect on the Jewish people, I could most often care less...
Nicely said but doesn't answer the question now does it.
As any steriotypical Jew like myself will tell you, what can you do? I mean, what do you want me to tell you? You ask a question without an answer.
It has an answer, God himself tells you that. He made people of different races, because he wanted people to stay different races.
What I want to know why to people go against him.
When people follow gods will, they are classed as racists and evil.
This I can never understand.
Every question has an answer, just most never want to hear it.
God made your lives simple, why do people wish to make it complex? Answer to justify them going against God himself.
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Because the whole point was to scatter people all over the place. What good would that do if there were only two nations?
G-d could of put the same type of person all over the Earth but he didn't.
Why are we lead to believe that mixing our genes to create one race is acceptable?
G-d doesn't think it was, thats why is separated people.
So why do people go against Gods wishes and cross breed, and mix our races?
I thought apart of the faith in G-d is to honour his ways and laws. ???
Here's all I care about:
Jews can only marry Jews. Goyim can't. As to everything else Gentiles do, if it has no effect on the Jewish people, I could most often care less...
Nicely said but doesn't answer the question now does it.
As any steriotypical Jew like myself will tell you, what can you do? I mean, what do you want me to tell you? You ask a question without an answer.
It has an answer, G-d himself tells you that. He made people of different races, because he wanted people to stay different races.
What I want to know why to people go against him.
When people follow gods will, they are classed as racists and evil.
This I can never understand.
Every question has an answer, just most never want to hear it.
G-d made your lives simple, why do people wish to make it complex? Answer to justify them going against G-d himself.
I'm not justifying anything anyone does. But you're asking why people do certain things the way they do (be they evil or not). How do I know? How does anyone know?
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Infidel : I like you for defending an anti-race mixing point of view.
Today race-mix propaganda is almost as nazi-propaganda in the turd reich.
I bless you and your children to come.
OdKahaneChai : We are not Jews, and don't want al Goyim to become one race.
so my question to you :
concerning the non-Jews of the earth,
1 does Thora promotes societies that are racially 'diverse'?
2 does Thora promotes the different races/nations to become one race/nation?
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Because the whole point was to scatter people all over the place. What good would that do if there were only two nations?
G-d could of put the same type of person all over the Earth but he didn't.
Why are we lead to believe that mixing our genes to create one race is acceptable?
G-d doesn't think it was, thats why is separated people.
So why do people go against Gods wishes and cross breed, and mix our races?
I thought apart of the faith in G-d is to honour his ways and laws. ???
Here's all I care about:
Jews can only marry Jews. Goyim can't. As to everything else Gentiles do, if it has no effect on the Jewish people, I could most often care less...
Nicely said but doesn't answer the question now does it.
As any steriotypical Jew like myself will tell you, what can you do? I mean, what do you want me to tell you? You ask a question without an answer.
It has an answer, G-d himself tells you that. He made people of different races, because he wanted people to stay different races.
What I want to know why to people go against him.
When people follow gods will, they are classed as racists and evil.
This I can never understand.
Every question has an answer, just most never want to hear it.
G-d made your lives simple, why do people wish to make it complex? Answer to justify them going against G-d himself.
I'm not justifying anything anyone does. But you're asking why people do certain things the way they do (be they evil or not). How do I know? How does anyone know?
We know, that today our society is going downhill,
my miece has a friend that is married to a black , protestant , handicapped man from Togo,
She is a daughter of an ambassador.
Her mother did not approve the marriage.
It is madness , insane madness.
BTW The girl is a twin, I hope her sister doesn't commit the same sin.
For me this is a sin.
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Infidel : I like you for defending an anti-race mixing point of view.
Today race-mix propaganda is almost as nazi-propaganda in the turd reich.
I bless you and your children to come.
OdKahaneChai : We are not Jews, and don't want al Goyim to become one race.
so my question to you :
concerning the non-Jews of the earth,
1 does Thora promotes societies that are racially 'diverse'?
2 does Thora promotes the different races/nations to become one race/nation?
The Torah does not say anything about either of those things, becuase it only (save Seven laws) concerns itself with the Jewish people. If you want my opinion on it, I think people should stick to their own people, because that hopefully will make it more likely that Jews will stick to their own people.
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I'm not justifying anything anyone does. But you're asking why people do certain things the way they do (be they evil or not). How do I know? How does anyone know?
There are good questions, so what to we do?
Look to God. Is he not our guide in life? our protector? our creator?
But my first question still remains unanswered, by the people how attack my faith and following in God.
Why don't they comment and answer? because they are wrong? Because they have no answer?
Or maybe because fear it in some ways?
Who knows, only them.
I only ask for your answer, no one elses. These others can answer for themselves.
And you have given yours, I thank you.
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Infidel : I like you for defending an anti-race mixing point of view.
Today race-mix propaganda is almost as nazi-propaganda in the turd reich.
I bless you and your children to come.
Thank you Ambiorix
Many blessing to you as well.
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G-D created different races. They each have certain strong points. Germans and Japanese are good engineers, The English are good sea-farers, the Italians create beautiful shapes etc. Do we wish to effectively do away with all these attributes? I know many mixed race people who are very nice but the question of whether it (race mixing) should be encouraged remains.
Consider this:
Man has created different dog breeds. Newfoundlands are excellent swimmers and save many humans from drowning. Blood hounds can track escaped convicts over any terraine. Border Collies, Kelpies and Cattle dogs do the work of several men when working livestock. Fox terriers have no equal as rat killers.
Mixed breed dogs are very nice, but imagine if we just mixed all the dog breeds into one breed of mixed-mutt. We'd have none of the specialist quallities of the above pure-breds.
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G-D created different races. They each have certain strong points. Germans and Japanese are good engineers, The English are good sea-farers, the Italians create beautiful shapes etc. Do we wish to effectively do away with all these attributes? I know many mixed race people who are very nice but the question of whether it (race mixing) should be encouraged remains.
Consider this:
Man has created different dog breeds. Newfoundlands are excellent swimmers and save many humans from drowning. Blood hounds can track escaped convicts over any terraine. Border Collies, Kelpies and Cattle dogs do the work of several men when working livestock. Fox terriers have no equal as rat killers.
Mixed breed dogs are very nice, but imagine if we just mixed all the dog breeds into one breed of mixed-mutt. We'd have none of the specialist quallities of the above pure-breds.
Dogs that interbreed are said to be stronger, and live longer.
But you made a very strong argument.
We respect all other humans whether they are having longer penises, or have bigger brains.
;D ;D
As long as they don't argue we are racists.
>:( >:(
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Multi culturalist's where are you why have you not answered my question?
:::D
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G-D created different races. They each have certain strong points. Germans and Japanese are good engineers, The English are good sea-farers, the Italians create beautiful shapes etc. Do we wish to effectively do away with all these attributes? I know many mixed race people who are very nice but the question of whether it (race mixing) should be encouraged remains.
Consider this:
Man has created different dog breeds. Newfoundlands are excellent swimmers and save many humans from drowning. Blood hounds can track escaped convicts over any terraine. Border Collies, Kelpies and Cattle dogs do the work of several men when working livestock. Fox terriers have no equal as rat killers.
Mixed breed dogs are very nice, but imagine if we just mixed all the dog breeds into one breed of mixed-mutt. We'd have none of the specialist quallities of the above pure-breds.
Dogs that interbreed are said to be stronger, and live longer.
But you made a very strong argument.
We respect all other humans whether they are having longer penises, or have bigger brains.
;D ;D
As long as they don't argue we are racists.
>:( >:(
;D ;D
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If G-d set the natural order of staying to our own, why does man change it, against G-ds intentions?
If God did not want things to change, then we wouldn't have free will to allow us to do so. It isn't mentioned in religious laws not to mix with other races does it? Only religions?
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If G-d set the natural order of staying to our own, why does man change it, against G-ds intentions?
If G-d did not want things to change, then we wouldn't have free will to allow us to do so. It isn't mentioned in religious laws not to mix with other races does it? Only religions?
By thast reasoning ou could say he wants us to look at pornography and do human cloning too (because he gave us free will) :( .
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If G-d set the natural order of staying to our own, why does man change it, against G-ds intentions?
If G-d did not want things to change, then we wouldn't have free will to allow us to do so. It isn't mentioned in religious laws not to mix with other races does it? Only religions?
By thast reasoning ou could say he wants us to look at pornography and do human cloning too (because he gave us free will) :( .
Oh yes, I didn't think about it in that way. It has been His intention to hand over the responsibilty of the world and our own actions to ourselves. Through religion, miracles and guidance He has made clear the path in which we should follow, and His intentions for us. Though has left the result up to us, for us to be accountable.
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If G-d set the natural order of staying to our own, why does man change it, against G-ds intentions?
If G-d did not want things to change, then we wouldn't have free will to allow us to do so. It isn't mentioned in religious laws not to mix with other races does it? Only religions?
By thast reasoning ou could say he wants us to look at pornography and do human cloning too (because he gave us free will) :( .
Oh yes, I didn't think about it in that way. It has been His intention to hand over the responsibilty of the world and our own actions to ourselves. Through religion, miracles and guidance He has made clear the path in which we should follow, and His intentions for us. Though has left the result up to us, for us to be accountable.
Yes. We have a responsibility to think about such things and ponder what he did and why.
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If G-d set the natural order of staying to our own, why does man change it, against G-ds intentions?
If G-d did not want things to change, then we wouldn't have free will to allow us to do so. It isn't mentioned in religious laws not to mix with other races does it? Only religions?
By thast reasoning ou could say he wants us to look at pornography and do human cloning too (because he gave us free will) :( .
Oh yes, I didn't think about it in that way. It has been His intention to hand over the responsibilty of the world and our own actions to ourselves. Through religion, miracles and guidance He has made clear the path in which we should follow, and His intentions for us. Though has left the result up to us, for us to be accountable.
Yes. We have a responsibility to think about such things and ponder what he did and why.
The biggest responsibility being the looking after of this planet, humanity and all its creations. Its a trust from God.
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If G-d set the natural order of staying to our own, why does man change it, against G-ds intentions?
If G-d did not want things to change, then we wouldn't have free will to allow us to do so. It isn't mentioned in religious laws not to mix with other races does it? Only religions?
God created freewill, so man would heve the ability to choose to follow his laws his will. Sarah why didn't god just create on people one colour one race?
Because he never wanted that. He wanted different people, different cultures.
Why do you think God created Jews and Gentlies?
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If G-d set the natural order of staying to our own, why does man change it, against G-ds intentions?
If G-d did not want things to change, then we wouldn't have free will to allow us to do so. It isn't mentioned in religious laws not to mix with other races does it? Only religions?
G-d created freewill, so man would heve the ability to choose to follow his laws his will. Sarah why didn't G-d just create on people one colour one race?
Because he never wanted that. He wanted different people, different cultures.
Why do you think G-d created Jews and Gentlies?
Because we can't all be chosen people. :)
You asked in your question if it were against God's intention to not stay with our own. Since we have free will, its up to us right? So God's intention was for us to decide, not lay down restrictions but just laws which we should abide by if we are good people.
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Why did he make so many of us, why can't we all be chosen?
Why did he make different races? this still is not been answered.
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Why did he make the Asian race? Why did he make the Nergo's?
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Why did he make the Asian race? Why did he make the Nergo's?
Someone has to cook the spareribs and shine the shoes.
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Why did he make the Asian race? Why did he make the Nergo's?
Someone has to cook the spareribs and shine the shoes.
Aren't spareribs pork? Thats only what I have seen in the shops.
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If G-d set the natural order of staying to our own, why does man change it, against G-ds intentions?
If G-d did not want things to change, then we wouldn't have free will to allow us to do so. It isn't mentioned in religious laws not to mix with other races does it? Only religions?
By thast reasoning ou could say he wants us to look at pornography and do human cloning too (because he gave us free will) :( .
I suppose that is your favourite hobby :::D
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yes Newman loves to clone ^-^ :::D
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yes Newman loves to clone ^-^ :::D
Isn't his name symbolising the cloning??
NEW - MAN. instead of HU - MAN . What does he means by new?
Are you a clone NEW-MAN?
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If G-d set the natural order of staying to our own, why does man change it, against G-ds intentions?
If G-d did not want things to change, then we wouldn't have free will to allow us to do so. It isn't mentioned in religious laws not to mix with other races does it? Only religions?
By thast reasoning ou could say he wants us to look at pornography and do human cloning too (because he gave us free will) :( .
I suppose that is your favourite hobby :::D
lol. :::D